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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4545 – August 21, 2021, 12:37:38 pm

Quote from: LP on August 21, 2021, 10:51:42 am

This is what you need to be more worried about than Dan's actions.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw/hunt-for-sydney-man-who-tested-positive-to-covid-19-failed-to-isolate-20210821-p58koj.html

A young involuntary celibate loser, fully viral loaded and as deadly to some people as a bullet, deliberately spreading Sars-CoV-2 like some sort of viral warfare jihadi!

But you have to feel sorry for him as well, he'll end up a loner, killing relatives and friends as well as "the enemy", maybe he'll kill even more friends and relatives than enemies if his associates and relatives follow his anti-vaxx edict!

It doesn't matter what his mental state is like, how well he is educated, what religion he follows, his race, colour, wealth and post-code are all irrelevant. The only thing that matters is he has made a decision to effectively fully weaponize his infection.

You as an individual can't defend yourself against this, so the only thing authorities can do is lockdown everyone and hope that good people do the right thing, which will highlight those who don't, limit the damage they can do and make them easier to detect!

An inconvenient truth, Spotted One. Well said. Nail. Head.

One of our biggest worries, even enemies, walks among us.

Too simple and easy to see problems through the eyes of our political ideologies. The human need for blame and scapegoating is only fed by blind loyalty to an ideology. Einstein once said (paraphrased) that once you see the world through a political ideology, you no longer have use for your brain. You only need the brain stem... to breathe and walk. You'll think what you're told to by your chosen blind loyalty. It's why I don't have a political allegiance. Personally, I think there is no difference between the far right and far left... both ends house zealots and fools (is that tautology?).

The essence, IMHO, of what you posted Spotted One -- a searing truth -- is that most blame for the spread of this virus lies at the feet of those within the community who refute the virus or its dangers and hence disregard safeguards for them, their friends and families and the broader community at large. Equally, the anti-vaxxer lunies. Then there are those who just don't give a sh1t about others. Then there are those who are oblivious due to some cognitive impairment or cultural isolation or language/communication difficulties.

Yes, had SloMo and the Federal Govt at large not been so disgracefully negligent of their responsibility to aged care, then the shocking Victorian death toll last year would not have been anywhere near 800+. And the operators of these aged care facilities also have blood on their hands.

Yes, had Gladys been more pro-active and less politically driven then NSW would not be going through this horror today.

Yes, had Dan acted sooner last year than he did the death toll would have been far less... and the failings of the Feds and aged care operators wouldn't have been so exposed. An unfortunate team effort!

But as is often the case in a community problem of this magnitude, relying on politicians to 'save' us is pointless. This is our problem. And by each and everyone one of us committing to measures that minimise virus transmission -- masks, social distancing, hand sanitizing -- then we have half a chance.

BUT, there is one more measure, an exceedingly important ingredient in slowing this contagions spread. Us. The community. Calling out those who flagrantly break the laws of lockdown and the laws of social responsibility. Not aggressively or violently. Each in our own way. The Fluffy One gave dissenters he encountered a stern and effective look that changed behaviour. I did it my way last Wednesday. CC did it his way. A photo of dissenters to police. A phone call to police with a rego number. We need to assist and support the cops in this highly unpleasant task. Though very mindful NOT to cross the line into vigilantism.

These dissenters need to know that the greater community is opposed to their behaviour. And that we will act.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4546 – August 21, 2021, 12:41:14 pm

And there we have it from our ABC ... illegal marches right now across the CBD called "peaceful".

FO Buttrose.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4547 – August 21, 2021, 12:42:33 pm

Ah there were 630 odd out in the community in Nsw not 50 odd.

I absolute despise the dictator Dan rhetoric, so you know what a dictatorship in real terms looks like?

You also do know the CHO is the one that makes the recommendations right? Not Dan personally?

You know Chant has made recommendations that Gladbag has ignored, right? Their hospitals are full, and they ain’t seen nothing yet - it is going to get ugly. Very sadly. Had she not been written up by pro Lib media the Murdoch trash rags about how she saved Australia and gold standard bullcraptery, you would think her ego wouldn’t be so out of control that she’d admit she was wrong earlier and do what she needed to do.

Parties in Maroubra and hundreds at a funeral 👌🏼 Where there were infectious people. Great job NSW, thanks a bunch gold 🌟 indeed.

Also you say you see it yourself the young and Middle Aged are suffering - in my circles we are ok, my kids are ok, their friends are ok, we’re all complying with health orders and being patient and doing our best. I’ve picked up another job to help with the family finances that I can do from home and anyone could’ve applied from - census - so I’m helping myself. Trying to help local businesses where I can too.

Trying to stay positive for my kids, role modelling resilience amongst a 1 in 100 year pandemic.

Also the world laughing at us? Please stop watching Fox News. I saw that bullcrap video, where they interviewed Christensen 😂 I mean seriously, that guy is an absolute chump! Where Fox News might be reporting Texans are laughing at us, I have a friend from there who I see her friends back in Texas and Florida writing on her fb posts, they are terrified! The governor had banned masks! They’re terrified for their children going to school and getting Covid. There are bodies piling up on refrigeration trucks and lines around the hospital, there ain’t no more room for others - and this is a place where vaccinations are higher.

Direct your anger appropriately - scumo failed Australia with his bullcrap vaccine ‘it’s not a race’ and Gladbag has kicked us in the guts with her liberal ideology! When it comes down to it, keeping everything open really isn’t the best idea is it, otherwise they would not now be locking the place down!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4548 – August 21, 2021, 12:43:35 pm

Quote from: madbluboy on August 21, 2021, 12:22:12 pm

The restrictions we have had for the last 2 weeks are more than enough if people comply. Punishing the 99% who are complying isn't going to make the other 1% change their ways.

Probably more like 90-95% are complying and 5-10% are not.

Yes, the higher % of folks are suffering because of the 5-10%. Time for the higher % to let the c0ckheads know that we will say something, we will report them. As I mentioned previously, it's up to us in the community to no longer be passive when seeing a wrongdoer. Speak up. Let them know it aint only the cops they need look out for... it's every person behind a mask they need look out for.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4549 – August 21, 2021, 12:56:20 pm

Bravo MICKYO on your attitude and leadership re supporting your family and friends. Champ.

In the process of what you point out, how about we also apply some pressure to those who refuse to be team players. Let's apply peaceful but accountable commentary to those who endanger us all with their lack of social responsibility. Be that through a friendly but firm reminder to them of their behaviour or for those wanting to avoid confrontation, an anonymous call to cops will also help. When the community at large -- the team players -- and not only the law enforcement folks, are seen as threats to the ignorant and dangerous behaviour of dissenters then we stand a chance of a far high co-operation to thwart this contagion... and the threat of harsher and more lockdowns.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4550 – August 21, 2021, 01:29:41 pm

Bunch of idiots on the Cbd and I’m reading people with young children in prams! Would you put your kids in that environment? FMD. Knowing the police will be holding their line, you’re recklessly causing your child a chance of being injured. Special kinds of morons.

They’re just yelling and screaming, I would say most are there just to stick it to the man and run around like dipcraps.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4551 – August 21, 2021, 01:36:37 pm

Quote from: Micky0 on August 21, 2021, 01:29:41 pm

Bunch of idiots on the Cbd and I’m reading people with young children in prams! Would you put your kids in that environment? FMD. Knowing the police will be holding their line, you’re recklessly causing your child a chance of being injured. Special kinds of morons.

They’re just yelling and screaming, I would say most are there just to stick it to the man and run around like dipcraps.

Well said, MickyO. Spot on summary.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4552 – August 21, 2021, 01:58:31 pm

Quote from: shawny on August 21, 2021, 11:51:20 am

How many people live in nsw? 3 deaths…….

So like the RTA Advertisements, can we pick 3 of your family at random to sub?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4553 – August 21, 2021, 05:27:25 pm

Quote from: LP on August 21, 2021, 01:58:31 pm

So like the RTA Advertisements, can we pick 3 of your family at random to sub?

I thought you were better then that. Is that all you have to justify rules that are being discussed as not relative to the threat?

So based on your mentality let’s stay in lockdown for possibly the next decade as Covid even with vaccines is still going to take lives and in the process let’s decimate the economy lose a large percentage of small businesses, spiral mental health which includes increased suicide number that no one seems to consider as they are hidden, stop all levels of education and that is based on even one death being too much as that one may just be your mum your sister etc.

I thought you were smarter than that LP.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4554 – August 21, 2021, 05:46:15 pm

Quote from: shawny on August 21, 2021, 05:27:25 pm

I thought you were better then that. Is that all you have to justify rules that are being discussed as not relative to the threat?

So based on your mentality let’s stay in lockdown for possibly the next decade as Covid even with vaccines is still going to take lives and in the process let’s decimate the economy lose a large percentage of small businesses, spiral mental health which includes increased suicide number that no one seems to consider as they are hidden, stop all levels of education and that is based on even one death being too much as that one may just be your mum your sister etc.

I thought you were smarter than that LP.

Nobody is asserting what you claim, you are debating a fantasy, both in the historical points you critique and the potential future you claim!

If the protestors stop protesting and started vaccinating the whole lockdown landscape would change, just as it has in Israel there may be more cases but there will be far far fewer hospitalisations per million from those cases.

It is the vaccine dissenters that extend the pain not the health authorities, not the politicians.

Ironically, I see a bunch of 50 and 60 year olds also protesting the vaccine, why is that ironic. Because many of them having been about in the 50s and 60s were marched down by mum or dad to the free Polio vaccine hub, typically at a primary school or in some cases a temporary tent, and given a free jab. Nearly all of them wearing the scars of that vaccination on their upper arm, they have accepted a right they now deny other today. They need mummy or daddy to return and give them a slap around the ears!