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Cant argue with Lloyd on that.Yep he nailed it and I thought the midfield stuff was on the money too, they had a plan , worked us out and I thought Pendlebury was finished but he played some game on the bigger Cripps.
Go back and watch the replay, Walsh is basically in a bear hug every other stoppage with arms around his waist, nada, nothing, nought!Frees were even overall and we cant mask the errors we made by blaming umpires....the Pendlebury kick was 50/50 imo and we wouldnt want that paid against us in the same situation.....if he had a man on him at the ball up we wouldnt have had an issue like when he kicked that important goal from an easy leadup mark inside 50 where some lazy Carlton opponent didnt pick him up and he was miles in the clear.
Fans want to whack Williams, but what he did players do all the time and do not get pinged. The willingness of fans to throw rocks at Williams goes back to when he signed on, fans bitched and moaned about the dollars, but that is not Williams fault, much like it wasn't the fault of Martin or McGovern before him. But the dollars put him in the sh1thouse with many fans forever more with the dollars equating to tall poppy syndrome!
Then you have the intentional out of bounds, our bloke gets pinged for a kick off the side of the boot, Pendlebury kicks it 50m almost directly sideways in the dying moments and gets away with it.
These are game changing moments caused by officials not good play by an opponent.
I get our club doesn't want to be seen as whinging, but if they are raising these issues in a very public way it's never going to go our way. The privacy does nothing, we need the AFL giving fans a public explanation. When the AFL officials get sick of making up excuses, the errors will diminish.
Its not panic stations yet but we need to beat the Colls, the Geels, etc. Right now with Freo beating Rich, we are sitting 8th.Got a few big heads drinking their own bathwater and forgetting about doing the hard stuff hoping stalwarts Cripps, Weitering etc will save the day. We lost the clearances to a depleted Pies midfield ...that should never , never happen if we want to win the big games.
Not paying the ones to Harry doesnt make the Elliot ones not there. Point is he panicked everytime the ball csme to themAgree....I think its obvious ZW isnt comfortable back on the last line and the selection of opponent is important and while Im not defending him giving away the free's I feel the coaching staff have to wear some of the blame.
Right this very minute, I say we are the posers and better rectify it quickly if we want to contend.Agree.....the Voss reaction with Cerra on the boundary shows he isnt happy and Id expect a few home truths and back to basics football vs Melbourne with defense ,manning up as a priority and sticking to the game plan.
He put his arms around him, once you do that youre gone.That's how it's umpired, paying the Elliott frees is fair enough but Harry got nothing for the same holding treatment down the other end and I think that's what's irking a few fans .
Ok Ill call a spade a spade and shoot Bambi, Walsh either fell asleep or had the wrong mindset at that stoppage. With the scores level and close to their goal, a defensive mindset had to be first and foremost. We let that happen too many times on the night, the last one was costly.Nick Daicos is quick and should have had a full time tagger or a rotating group of players on him . I don't expect my star mid to tag him..Neale, Petracca, etc Daicos himself don't tag or mind a man.
I disagree, people forget the Freo game where Williams and his dash and dare won us the game.NT, We will agree to disagree on ZW...with players returning it will be interesting to see if the coach has faith in him and he keeps his place..
Saad excels at his role, Williams is a poor man’s replacement but it’s temporary.
What people forget is that Saad can lock down and run and create, with him out Williams is asked to do his job.Umpiring was fickled and Harry in particular was held without frees being paid.
Williams copped heaps last week and was nervous on Friday as the two early frees showed.
When 1st choice players are back and guys like Williams can return to their preferred run and gun position the whole team will look and perform better.
And don’t get me started on the fb bananas who wanted to play Kemp on Cox without McGovern there to come over the top… 🤦🏼♂️
And those two early frees for scragging… didn’t seem to get paid at the other end of the ground, did they ?
1 goal loss with our cobbled together team, I’ll wear that.
Yep, Pitto does need to take those marks around the ground, but no blame for the loss could be put on the shoulders of our rucks. Likewise, with the exception of Williams, our defence did well until continued pressure and too many inside 50s from Rottingwood.They outworked us, contested better and our one wood which is our big mids dominating the clearances didnt dominate and with them losing DeGoey and Mitchell pregame as well as McCreery during the game who was being used in the middle thats where we lost it imho and failed to capitalize on our advantage. We need to dominate clearances to make up for our lack of pace, but we had spectators and players avoiding chasing and even contests on occasion.
I also didn't see much wrong with our midfield, apart from being a little loose at times (Walsh) and going backwards too often (Cerra).
Rottingwood came well prepared to counter any and all of our strengths. They were mentally up for the challenge and hunted us really well. Whereas, we looked a little confused at times with a concerning lack of connection around the ground and especially between midfield and forwards. Insufficient confidence?
Williams is not a deep defender. Panics. Much better further up the ground. We were very, very lucky there weren't more free kicks against him as he did 'hang on' to opponents too much. Weiters, Boyd, Gov, Newey, Saad, Cincotta, Cow... are far more reliable in deep defence.
I've banged on before about a 'hunting' mentality. When we have this, we are much, much better. Finessing, is not our thing. We do better when the attitude/focus is simple. We seem to be thinking too much. Too complex trying to implement 'layers?'
Vossy reckons in his presser we should get back Martin, Gov and Marchbank. Three very important ins (cant believe Im saying that about Marchbank).I'd have Kemp back in for Fritsch and forget about Marchbank...
We constantly look at who's missing as to the way to improve.We all know the reality with Martin, he will get injured, go missing at times so you just hope he is fit when needed for big games as his best makes a difference because he can change and win games but have to live with the downside of injuries and lack of consistency in games.
When martin is in and plays 2 average games we want him dropped. When his injured we want him back as another ‘dud’ is not performing. Rarely any team is injury free and apart from your high end top liners, injuries to players ranked below your top 10 are over rated imo.
If cripps weitering charlie harry are out its a big loss but when we start counting on a injury riddled blokes like martin marchbank mcgovern and even a young player like motlop to fix our problems we are kidding ourself.