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Title: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Gointocarlton on February 22, 2019, 10:55:58 pm
HS reporting a praccy match btw the NBs and a Brent Harvey coached North Heidelberg at Ikon Park  was called off due to safety fears. They report the game got very willing and the coaches and umpires decided to call it off as it was getting out of control. No Carlton listed players were participating.

But after a series of dangerous incidents — including one dumping tackle and a handful of aggressive acts — the match was halted at halftime.

The Northern Blues were unhappy with the level of aggression, with North Heidelberg believing it was instigated by an early tackle that saw their player concussed.

Carlton VFL coach Josh Fraser told the Herald Sun the umpires, Harvey and himself all agreed the game was getting out of control.

The game had been played in the right spirit for a pre-season hitout last year but quickly escalated as North Heidelberg tried to exert their physical dominance against a young Northern Blues side.



https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/carlton/northern-blues-call-off-practice-match-against-north-heidelberg/news-story/075f1b9c1d959bdce229ae9d1b592d85
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Professer E on February 23, 2019, 08:04:32 am
Is that the Heidelberg that wears Hawthorn colours with blue shorts (there are three Heidelberg based sides).
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Gointocarlton on February 23, 2019, 08:35:36 am
Is that the Heidelberg that wears Hawthorn colours with blue shorts (there are three Heidelberg based sides).
Red white and blue with a bulldog on the front.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: LP on February 23, 2019, 11:54:26 am
So a game full of kids, mostly VAFA and TAC tops ups for the Bullants, and Harvey's adult thugs try to go the knuckle.

Small man syndrome hard at work, let it go Brent your career is over!
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Professer E on February 23, 2019, 12:56:29 pm
Oh,  that mob.  They're renowned for going the knuckle,  pack of neanderthals.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Gointocarlton on February 23, 2019, 02:43:01 pm
So a game full of kids, mostly VAFA and TAC tops ups for the Bullants, and Harvey's adult thugs try to go the knuckle.

Small man syndrome hard at work, let it go Brent your career is over!
My understanding is that Harvey was concerned and approached Fraser.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: crashlander on February 23, 2019, 03:22:42 pm
Disappointing.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: chalkybill on February 23, 2019, 05:03:26 pm
Oh,  that mob.  They're renowned for going the knuckle,  pack of neanderthals.

They are certainly renowned for thuggery.  There have been other times when games involving them have been stopped.  There was a story that after one team refused to come out of the rooms after half-time the umpire started the second half and the team kept kicking goals to amass a big store with no opposition until one idiot kicked a behind.  As there was no full-back to kick out the game came to an end! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on February 23, 2019, 05:35:42 pm
My question is why are the NB's playing these tree dwellars anyway.......cant we find another VFL team wanting similar outcomes, apart from filling up casualty at the Northern why would we be playing "Heidelberg"?
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Professer E on February 23, 2019, 05:37:38 pm
Played that mob in a practice match once,  they were in a different division of the old DVFL.  The supporters watching on were the most brutal I've ever experienced:eight year old kids hurling abuse a wharfie would think twice before using.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: cookie2 on February 23, 2019, 06:53:27 pm
Heidelberg is ok, West Heidelberg,  well....

...?
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on February 23, 2019, 09:49:39 pm
Heidelberg is ok, West Heidelberg,  well....

...?

Yep....Heidelberg the suburb is fine and I can recommend the "Old England " pub for a meal....
Heidelberg West isnt somewhere I'd visit late at night....is that cream brick police station in waterdale rd manned, never seen a copper anywhere near it?
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Professer E on February 23, 2019, 10:47:40 pm
The Mall isn't a a great location either.   Some interesting types frequent the Aldi across the road too.

The cops come up the hill from Jika Street EB.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: cookie2 on February 24, 2019, 07:54:37 am
Yep....Heidelberg the suburb is fine and I can recommend the "Old England " pub for a meal....
Heidelberg West isnt somewhere I'd visit late at night....is that cream brick police station in waterdale rd manned, never seen a copper anywhere near it?

Yes, I have eaten at the Old England a few times and that Burgundy St area and up to the station is quite pleasant. I don't go West that often these days although in my classic car days I used to get work done at places such as Neway Wheels in Waterdale Rd. Never after dark though!
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Gointocarlton on February 24, 2019, 12:45:06 pm
Back in the day, West Heidelberg and Preston were two of the roughest, meanest suburbs around. That pub near the corner of Oriel Rd and Bell St (name escapes me, there is an Aldi there now) was insanely violent.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: cookie2 on February 24, 2019, 12:57:18 pm
Back in the day, West Heidelberg and Preston were two of the roughest, meanest suburbs around. That pub near the corner of Oriel Rd and Bell St (name escapes me, there is an Aldi there now) was insanely violent.

I think "South of Bell St" has almost become trendy/expensive now following several years of gentrification.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Professer E on February 24, 2019, 02:14:46 pm
Wasn't it the Olympic?   It was, without doubt,  the sh1ttest, most violent,  low brow drinking establishment in Australia.   Utter dump.  

Almost certain if you parked there you would be offered a cheap car stereo, which would have been nicked within five minutes of leaving the vehicle.

The flats next door are on par with the Bronx,  the sleazier parts of Jo'burg or some gang infested South American slum city.   The cops don't even go there.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: cookie2 on February 24, 2019, 02:58:08 pm
The Olympic is still operating, cnr Albert St.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Blueboy_Benny on February 24, 2019, 03:22:40 pm
Yep....Heidelberg the suburb is fine and I can recommend the "Old England " pub for a meal....
Heidelberg West isnt somewhere I'd visit late at night....is that cream brick police station in waterdale rd manned, never seen a copper anywhere near it?

Grew up in the "mean streets" of Ivanhoe (the Eaglemont / East Ivanhoe part), so can't really comment :D
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Sexybronco on February 24, 2019, 03:37:38 pm
Wasn't it the Olympic?   It was, without doubt,  the sh1ttest, most violent,  low brow drinking establishment in Australia.   Utter dump.  

Almost certain if you parked there you would be offered a cheap car stereo, which would have been nicked within five minutes of leaving the vehicle.

The flats next door are on par with the Bronx,  the sleazier parts of Jo'burg or some gang infested South American slum city.   The cops don't even go there.
No, it was the Colosseum and it burnt down thankfully. Wandered into the public bar one night to meet workmates for drinks after work and knew right away I was not in a nice place, turns out they were all in the restaurant bar at the front but forgot to tell the new guy, I didn't make that mistake again.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: townsendcalling on February 24, 2019, 03:39:34 pm
I think "South of Bell St" has almost become trendy/expensive now following several years of gentrification.

The aptly named ‘Coliseum’. Heidelberg Heights has gone gangbusters pricewise. Give West Heidelberg 8-10 years. It is too close to the city to stay derelict. Long term buyers bargains to be had. (Who would have lived in  Collingwood 20 years ago??)
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Professer E on February 24, 2019, 04:07:24 pm
There were a lot of rumours going around about the ????.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: cookie2 on February 24, 2019, 04:09:37 pm
The aptly named ‘Coliseum’. Heidelberg Heights has gone gangbusters pricewise. Give West Heidelberg 8-10 years. It is too close to the city to stay derelict. Long term buyers bargains to be had. (Who would have lived in  Collingwood 20 years ago??)

Yep. I think things are already beginning to stir in "West Heidy". I first witnessed the situation there in the seventies (I lived just off Waiora Rd) and it was definitely a "Fort Apache the Bronx" world then. Many parts of it are now under gentrification and even the old Olympic Village properties are being sold off and renovated. The recent general market softening may even speed things up there.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on February 24, 2019, 04:34:24 pm
Grew up in the "mean streets" of Ivanhoe (the Eaglemont / East Ivanhoe part), so can't really comment :D

Have to start calling you Silvertail Benny.... ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on February 24, 2019, 04:40:06 pm
Yep. I think things are already beginning to stir in "West Heidy". I first witnessed the situation there in the seventies (I lived just off Waiora Rd) and it was definitely a "Fort Apache the Bronx" world then. Many parts of it are now under gentrification and even the old Olympic Village properties are being sold off and renovated. The recent general market softening may even speed things up there.

Liked the shops across the road from the Olympic Village area, my kids played a few basketball games there at the village, weird old stadium....the shops were nearly all closed
and covered in corrugated tin sheets...looked like an area that had seen war.....
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: townsendcalling on February 24, 2019, 05:01:48 pm
Grew up in the "mean streets" of Ivanhoe (the Eaglemont / East Ivanhoe part), so can't really comment :D

Alphonse Gagitano territory!!!
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: DJC on February 24, 2019, 05:51:59 pm
I spent a lot of time at a mate's place in Liberty Parade when I was in my mid teens.  I was amazed at how quickly the word spread that I was from Coburg.  We'd be wandering the streets and 3 or 4 Sharpies would approach and grunt, "You're the Coburg boy?" before stalking off.  It didn't encourage any interest from the local girls though ... and that was probably a good thing.

I survived unscathed, apart from the mental scars  ;)
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Professer E on February 24, 2019, 06:18:09 pm
Sharpie wasn't referring to their intellectual ability.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: chalkybill on February 24, 2019, 07:39:50 pm
There used to be an American Military camp just over the road from the zoo, called CAMP PHELL.  You may recall the BROWN OUT MURDERER came from there.  When the yanks left, the dregs of society were housed in the former barracks.  They kept the barbed wire fence up (locals said to keep the residents in)  After the Olympics the government thought it best to split the inmates up - so half went to Broadmeadows and the other half to the former Olympic Village, thus creating two problem areas.   >:D  >:D >:D  The former military camp was quickly torn down.

Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: DJC on February 24, 2019, 08:19:47 pm
There used to be an American Military camp just over the road from the zoo, called CAMP PHELL.  You may recall the BROWN OUT MURDERER came from there.  When the yanks left, the dregs of society were housed in the former barracks.  They kept the barbed wire fence up (locals said to keep the residents in)  After the Olympics the government thought it best to split the inmates up - so half went to Broadmeadows and the other half to the former Olympic Village, thus creating two problem areas.   >:D  >:D >:D  The former military camp was quickly torn down.

Some of my relos were in that camp Chalky ????
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Blueboy_Benny on February 25, 2019, 12:22:16 am
Liked the shops across the road from the Olympic Village area, my kids played a few basketball games there at the village, weird old stadium....the shops were nearly all closed
and covered in corrugated tin sheets...looked like an area that had seen war.....

I recall part of a conversation that I heard in the car park of the Olympic Village shops and the Banyule council run gym (which wasn't at all jailhouse), which went something along the lines of:

"You f@$#ing get back here now you little bastard"

And the response:

"Piss off mum"
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Blueboy_Benny on February 25, 2019, 12:27:44 am
Alphonse Gagitano territory!!!

Thought he was based in Templestowe, unless he moved out that way latter on.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Blueboy_Benny on February 25, 2019, 12:29:23 am
Have to start calling you Silvertail Benny.... ;)  ;)

Haha, and proud of it :) :D ;D
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: cookie2 on February 25, 2019, 07:13:11 am
I recall part of a conversation that I heard in the car park of the Olympic Village shops and the Banyule council run gym (which wasn't at all jailhouse), which went something along the lines of:

"You f@$#ing get back here now you little bastard"

And the response:

"Piss off mum"

Olympic Village - bastion of enlightened parenting!  :o
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Professer E on February 25, 2019, 10:41:19 am
It would have been "***** off mum".

Alphonse had a house in Eaglemont and one in Donchester East.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: townsendcalling on February 25, 2019, 03:46:14 pm
Thought he was based in Templestowe, unless he moved out that way latter on.

His 'formative years' were in Castle Street Eaglemont!!
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on February 25, 2019, 03:47:18 pm
Mick Gatto was in Templestowe.......
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Thryleon on February 25, 2019, 04:22:07 pm
Mick Gatto was in Templestowe.......

Had one in Fairfield too I think.

These guys probably had places everywhere.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: cookie2 on February 25, 2019, 04:51:03 pm
Mick Gatto was in Templestowe.......

I think Gatto was a one time near neighbour of Nick Stevens in Templestowe, if memory serves.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Sexybronco on February 25, 2019, 05:32:30 pm
I think Gatto was a one time near neighbour of Nick Stevens in Templestowe, if memory serves.
No that was in Plenty, his house backed onto the Heidelberg Golf Club where I play.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Professer E on February 25, 2019, 05:52:00 pm
He's still in 'Plenty but has moved a block or so from the golf course.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: cookie2 on February 25, 2019, 06:00:40 pm
Isn't that Lower Plenty guys?
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: Gointocarlton on February 25, 2019, 06:37:39 pm
Isn't that Lower Plenty guys?
Yes, Lower Plenty.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Match Called off
Post by: chalkybill on February 27, 2019, 06:20:28 pm
Some of my relos were in that camp Chalky ????

Don't worry, I taught many children of those from the Camp and found the majority to be great.  I still have past students contact me on FB.  At a reunion a number of years ago I happily noted the number of my former pupils who not only had good jobs but many in management or equivalent roles.   I am very proud of most of my ex-students but there were still some who continued the poor Camp reputation.