Right. No Curnows, but Murphy is back.
Lang has another game under his belt and Dow and OBrien are improving with every run......we live with hope.
Looking forward to a great contest. It would be so interesting to see just how competitive we would be with relatively free list to pick from
Why are we kicking out towards Gawn?
Dont like how we have started here. Giving away silly frees.
Gawn killing us ...
Hope we don’t keep bombing to Jake Lever by himself all day, just dumb
Gawn - Jones - goal square :-\
Somebody needs to run straight through Vince.... Maggot.
Need to get stuck into those tirds Lewis and Viney, make them do something stupid. Oshea is farken useless.
The snowbunnies are trying to pound us..... The three blind mice aren't helping either. First two bunnies goals from nothing frees.
The AFL haven't given up on their vendetta.
The snowbunnies are trying to pound us..... The three blind mice aren't helping either. First two bunnies goals from nothing frees.
Sorry mate, Oshea is a DH, grab an arm like that in front of the umps and youre gone.
The AFL haven't given up on their vendetta.
Lucky they can't kick
Dees helping us with their inaccuracy. Need to create some structure. Spirit is there , need to get some process happening
Daisy fired up from being dumped earlier
Get o'shea off the ground, ducking useless.
Jones looking like his confidence is back marking everything
Kerr applying pressure. Good start Paddy
Tin asses out of the middle, commentators make it sound like a brilliant set play.
Graham picking up good numbers today. Harry looking lie, he belongs. We seem to be giving away lots of frees today
The Dees tunnel players in marking contest after marking contest, and then they get the free kick!
Why the long bomb rubbish up the line? So predictable.
Fantastic forward pressure ;D
Great pressure tackle by Harry, ends in a goal
Nice H
Patrick Kerr has done more in 30 mins than Jack S has done all year. Curnow, McKay, Kerr 3 talls into the future with Jack earmark for onball.
Absolutely MUST start the second qtr well. Sounds silly but its vital, first qtr was good despite the silly frees given away. Kerr and H working well.
McKay and Kerr have had great starts. Tall forwards going forward certainly shouldn't be an issue.
Moving the ball quickly and surely from defence and down the ground is still a huge issue.
Seeing Kerr in 36 on the ground first thought was hope he is as good as Sellars
Patrick Kerr has done more in 30 mins than Jack S has done all year. Curnow, McKay, Kerr 3 talls into the future with Jack earmark for onball.
Kerr is a natural KPF, don't judge SoJ against him.
SoJ needs to reset himself, at least until his body grows stronger.
Geez our ball use is bad!
Kerr is a natural KPF, don't judge SoJ against him.
SoJ needs to reset himself, at least until his body grows stronger.
Geez our ball use is bad!
Yes, yes, and yes. That's too many points for us to agree on...lol.
Kerr and SOS play different roles.
The kick into the 50 is really hurting us. Creating chances but making it hard to get on the scoreboard. Dee's really open us up on the break
Not the start I was after.
Our lightweight kids/mids are really struggling.
Great hand pass from SPS opened up the play gave us the chance to go forward
Getting flogged at deck level, size discrepancy is marked.
Terrible kick Fish, off to the bench and have a chat to Bolts please. God I despise when we kick across the ground, too often we turn it over.
Getting out marked , out positioned & out thought
Far out that looks bad when we float that kick into the middle of the centre square and the opposition spoil it and run into 50. Happened in just about every game this year.
Simmo beats 3 well done, showing heart. Forward entries letting us down
Fat lady begins to mount the rostrum.
Goal Fischer took it on good to see
Terrible kick Fish, off to the bench and have a chat to Bolts please. God I despise when we kick across the ground, too often we turn it over.
Perfect response from Zac Attack
How does Harmes run around Jarrod Garlett?
Mullet and o'shea.... Worst pair of flankers I've ever seen. Hurry up Willo we need you.
Where's our midfield????
And we've trotted out the customary horrible qtr. Its all over folks.
I knew I should have changed my tip once Charlie was ruled out. Ah well. Hopefully we don’t just throw in the towel and we battle hard to avoid a smacking.
Whoever is our defensive coach needs to hand over his ID and walk away.
We reply , but need back to back to steady. Back line needs to tighten up,
Murphy. 25 mins. One clanger. Injured again.
FMD...why bother?
Confidence booster for Crippa
When we turn the ball over we sit and watch Dee's run away with it and we sit and watch sad
Again our ball use horrible.
The Dees are so confident we'll miss a target they hang back looking for cheap kicks, and get them!
Confidence booster for McDonald.
Confidence booster for McDonald.
He's kicked 4 of the easiest, softest goals I have ever seen.
So, which brain in our club thought Murphy could get over plantar fasciitis in a few weeks.
We just don't do the basics well enough.
Players playing that should not be there right not. O'Shea and Garlett being two of them.
He's kicked 4 of the easiest, softest goals I have ever seen.
The Dees very good ball use makes it quite easy for him.
So, which brain in our club thought Murphy could get over plantar fasciitis in a few weeks.
We just don't do the basics well enough.
Players playing that should not be there right not. O'Shea and Garlett being two of them.
If Weitering isn't a better player than O'Shea I'll eat my boots.
Is garlett related to bolts?
How does he continue to hold his spot.
Lazy footballer. Surely has to be dropped next week.
If Weitering isn't a better player than O'Shea I'll eat my boots.
No danger of you eating your boots..lol.
Only thing I've got out of this game is McKay and Kerr as a future forward combination.
The Dees very good ball use makes it quite easy for him.
Their hack, no look kicks go to their players, thats pure luck not good balls use. Our hack, no look kicks go to their players also, again pure luck. They are however pressuring us to kick/handball quickly and capitalising on our errors. They are also getting into space far too easily. Our mids need to get down and dirty more. As I said though, the game is done and dusted. It would take a herculean effort for this group to come back front here.
The tall forward kids are holding their own. If they can sustain their efforts, it's a small step forward. LOB and Dow holding their own too.
Good to see Samo going in hard. A couple of his handballs have been sublime.
Garlett - watch and follow Samo's lead!
Plowman looks more effective this week and Simmo playing with his usual perennial persistence.
Fisher and Crippa responded well after their respective errors.
It's a huge challenge in the second half, particularly given our outs. Let's see who can step up.
Go Blues
So, which brain in our club thought Murphy could get over plantar fasciitis in a few weeks.
We just don't do the basics well enough.
Players playing that should not be there right not. O'Shea and Garlett being two of them.
The same one that managed Kruez groin and Kennedy's ankle ???
IS THERE A LIVE FEED THAT I CAN GET FROM VEGAS?
The problem is the turnovers create space because we've run forward too hard and left our defence outnumbered, we see this pattern week after week.
Those hack kicks are kicks to position, positions that the forwards are supposed to keep open and work into.
Our two biggest sins are kicking to the oppositions advantage, and kicking it on the head of our forwards. I feel some moron at Carlton drills our players to kick directly to the target instead of kicking to the advantaged space.
Here's something different, two horrible qtrs :o
This is now too hard to watch.
I think our MC don't watch the opposition much, because we've setup like Hogan will be the prime KPF inside F50 and he hasn't been that for the whole season!
Is garlett related to bolts?
How does he continue to hold his spot.
Lazy footballer. Surely has to be dropped next week.
Yes agree, hasn't shown much our amount of injuries have kept him in
Definition of insanity.... Repeating something and expecting a better result.
Telling Jones to play 20 metres off a key forward. WTF?
Don't pick injured players.
Don't pick o Shea.
How *+*$Iing hard is it?
She is not singing yet but certainly gargling
This game is doing more damage to BBs coaching future than others this season, because primarily our tactics are faulty.
We look like a disorganised rabble.
Here's something different, two horrible qtrs :o
If they were horrible, not sure what q3 is ??
The problem is the turnovers create space because we've run forward too hard and left our defence outnumbered, we see this pattern week after week.
Those hack kicks are kicks to position, positions that the forwards are supposed to keep open and work into.
Our two biggest sins are kicking to the oppositions advantage, and kicking it on the head of our forwards. I feel some moron at Carlton drills our players to kick directly to the target instead of kicking to the advantaged space.
I've been banging on about this for years LP
Will lose this by 100+
Disgraceful coaching, effort and skill levels.
Definition of insanity.... Repeating something and expecting a better result.
Telling Jones to play 20 metres off a key forward. WTF?
Don't pick injured players.
Don't pick o Shea.
How *+*$Iing hard is it?
This performance is on the coaching staff. Went with this zoning crap early in the year and got thrashed.
I have a good idea, let's repeat it.
Should rename this club the Titanic. It's full of passengers and it's going to be on the bottom forever.
Any Ex Carlton players playing for Melb?
Nice goal Lamb , certainly added aagression to his game of late.
We need to call a count, I'm sure about half our blokes aren't playing. Anybody seen Dow, oBrien, SPS?
This performance is on the coaching staff. Went with this zoning crap early in the year and got thrashed.
I have a good idea, let's repeat it.
BB is all about the learning process and capabilities of the players yet the MC and Coaches do not want to learn or change! :o
Just tuned in... the orange socks look good. ????
Very dissappointing defensively today, mids not accountable . No clear touches, everything we do is under pressure . Dee's picking us off
Just tuned in... the orange socks look good. ????
Only thing that's does Max
Won one game and it went to their heads.
But don't worry we'll win the last quarter for sure ::)
Don't think I have seen Wright so quiet
At least we're winning the free kick count ::)
Goal Kruzer reward for effort today, very dissappointing today the team in general
Don't think I have seen Wright so quiet
Wright and Thomas have been two of our better players in recent weeks and the Dees have put hard tags on them both.
Wright and Thomas have been two of our better players in recent weeks and the Dees have put hard tags on them both.
Yes not as effective at all. Haven't see us have so many easy goals kicked against us
Gee 2 goals to 8 q3 :-\
Yes not as effective at all. Haven't see us have so many easy goals kicked against us
The Dees are setting up to force Rowe as the free KPD, and it's killing us because he's not mobile enough, when we turn it over as we do he cannot get to the contest. Anyway this was talked about in the pre-game thread, it seems only our MC didn't see it happening. The Dees have Hogan and McDonald rotating through their midfield/wing and we have no match ups to go with them.
One thing the Dees have done today that they haven't done all season, is having Harmes come off the HBF and it's making us look very lightweight.
Gee 2 goals to 8 q3 :-\
On top of 2 goals to 7 in q2.
On top of 2 goals to 7 in q2.
What's your guess for q4?
We've pushed Dees into 4th :o
Would love to see a stat on the amount of goals were conceded to this point this year from O’Shea or mullet frees against.
2 of the clumsiest defenders your likely to see playing at the highest level.
If our coaching staff aren't embarrassed today they never will be, out coached all day
This is enbarrising.. I cant watch anymore... putrid.
What's your guess for q4?
Started off the same. 3 goals to nil in 10 min.
Bolton can get well and truly phuked with his coaching today.
Woeful and depressing.
I wish we could stick tackles.
Can we afford to have our new captain going at 50% DE, no matter who many CPs he gets?
The Dees are almost letting him have the ball preferentially because he's not damaging them at all with his disposals.
No. He's had enough chances, burned whatever respect I had left for him today.
Hard first game back at any time, I think with Murphy he doesn't show passion, so hard to guage desperation etc so seems uninterested at times
100points??
Sad.
Worst effort this year by far.
Rowe was pathetic then
I hope this means we follow Dees by getting all the draft perks!
Always a wrap for Rowe, but got caught , couldn't see a better option got done. Sad one, put it away today .
Started off the same. 3 goals to nil in 10 min.
Bolton can get well and truly phuked with his coaching today.
At some point the players have to take responsibility.
Rowe was pathetic then
Not his fault, no movement from the mid-fielders, no targets to hit so Rowe gets run down because he's forced to hold onto it. If he kicks long there, the only option, he'll watch the ball going back over his head!
Not his fault, no movement from the mid-fielders, no targets to hit so Rowe gets run down because he's forced to hold onto it.
No awareness whatsoever - should’ve kicked it long if he had no options!
Weitering must play next week, can't carry so many brainless spuds in our back half. If he doesn't Bolts and the MC should hand their kit in.
It's too early in the experiment but maybe SOJ on ball. At least he can block and tackle. Our young mids in SPS, LoB and Dow have been non existent. No ball and no pressure on the ball carrier. Chuck in an ineffective Murphy and 100 point loss is inevitable.
Not his fault, no movement from the mid-fielders, no targets to hit so Rowe gets run down because he's forced to hold onto it.
This is what the guys on Grandstand AFL said.
No awareness whatsoever - should’ve kicked it long if he had no options!
Too simplistic Micky0, the problem is the HBs around Rowe have all pissed off without working to provide a target.
When you get to the replay, watch the blokes jogging around minding an opponent instead of making a target.
Have to say best game by Nick Graham for the club today stuck to his task in a loosing mid today
Shame. Thought obrein was going to get his first goal :-X
If you are going to play kids like Kerr and McKay you must at least let them hunt the ball, the robotic rubbish our AFL team goes on with is utter bullsh1t! Man on man is how it's done! You don't expect the kids to win many one on ones, but you have to provide them with the chance!
Our forward line has no chance, so they end up contesting marks on the wing instead of inside F50, usually against 3 or 4!
15 goals to 2 since half time.... Feels like more
Well, if Bolton survives this, you know the New Carlton is actually real, and not just PR hype.
Insipid
Love to be in the rooms straight after the game today. Sad display alround. Changes are needed, Weitering in for a start
Move the discussion to the post match thread...and we'll lock this one up.
...and throw away the key >:(
Well, if Bolton survives this, you know the New Carlton is actually real, and not just PR hype.
They have to run with him ala Hardwick and Richmond style, they have no other choice. Wait 10yrs for something to happen?
I'm sick of being embarrassed by my football team, if we're going to be dismantled then at least go down with an eye on the future and not with a bunch of spuds and hack rejects from other clubs.
Weitering, Silvagni and Cunningham play next week for starters, Williamson the week after, and Kerr stays in, how can we possibly expect a kid in game one to shine in an outfit like we put on the park today?
If they don't start cutting the spuds very shortly I'll lose interest after 50 plus years.