Carlton Supporters Club

At the end of the day the entire team is looking a bit flat.  Let's hope that they are flogging them on the training track in an effort to get us primed for next year.

Why do we continue to get smashed around the stoppages?

Nothing ever changes.....that used to be one of our strengths?

Stats are useful if people understand their limits, and if they apply the information correctly.

In this case, it shows we don't have an issue getting first use. we don't have an issue getting our hands on the ball. It's what happens after that causes the problems.

Bolton referenced CHF a couple of times in his presser - as we all know, our forward line and delivery into the forward line are the major problems.

Further you have toi know what a "Clearance" is defined as before you can understand the stats;

For example if Kreuzer or Phillips tap the ball clear of the pack is that a clearance?

What if our ruck taps the ball to the advantage of Gibbs or Cripps and they handball it to Sidebottom, who gets the clearance stat?

It's fraught with danger to rely on these stats too much, because the line of clearance is subjective.

On Saturday night we were clearly beaten in the midfield, possibly our worst effort in several weeks, just go back and watch the number of clear taps from Kreuzer or Phillips that went straight to Collingwood players.

From what I can see a clearance is credited to the player who has the first disposal in the chain that clears the stoppage area to either teams advantage.

Question then is whether a tap or hitout from the ruck contest is counted as a disposal or whether a disposal is determined strictly as a legal disposal by hand or foot?

Stats are useful if people understand their limits, and if they apply the information correctly.

In this case, it shows we don't have an issue getting first use. we don't have an issue getting our hands on the ball. It's what happens after that causes the problems.

Bolton referenced CHF a couple of times in his presser - as we all know, our forward line and delivery into the forward line are the major problems.

It has to be kick or handpass that clears the stoppage area - even if it goes directly to an opponent.  I guess that would be picked up in the turnovers/disposal efficiency stats.

Granted Casboult, Everitt et all are playing like gooses but our midfield/ruck is a far larger problem imo. Fix that, the forwards will 'improve' immeasurably.

Simple fact is (sadly) - and noting he's still relatively young - but Kreuzer simply doesn't cut it against the better ruckman in the league these days.

Cripps is either injured or missing in action and Gibbs gets tagged stupid every game now. Curnow in a lull and Sam having a quiet patch too.

Really need to acquire a top notch inside mid asap.

And our midfield goes missing way too often, especially defensively.

Thanks DJC. Do you know what is the definition of the stoppage area? I can't find one anywhere.