Carlton Supporters Club

I said a couple of weeks ago that I thought didn't no how to win, and didn't turn up to win. We keep falling behind by six, seven, eight goals, and then we start playing. The good thing about last night was that in previous seasons we would have lost by five to ten goals. The fact that we do have a go is good. But you have to have a go for four quarters not when you pick and chose to do it. I was surprised how good St.Kilda was in the first quarter and they really exposed our lack of pace in the mid-field. I thought Philp was good for his second game last night, and we really need Fisher, Dow and O'Brien in to give us some more run. Kennedy is another who seems to be running better across the ground this year.
It is easy to criticise the back line, but when you are getting beaten in the middle, and your disposal coming out of the back is bad, and the entries into the forward line are so poor that it allows you to slingshot all the way down the ground, you can see how some of the goals came form our poor play rather than their good.
I thought our players, back and forward had trouble judging the ball under the lights in the first half. This led to a number of marks which were virtually uncontested. When we closed them down and made the game a contest, we really had them on the ropes, but once again we didn't make the most of the opportunities. This leads me back to my original premise that I am not sure the Club really wants to win. They say they do, but I am not sure they really mean it. As I say, winners win because they win, losers lose because they lose.
We had Silvagni, Dow Marchbank, Kreuzer, Newman, Fisher and Curnow out, as well as Kennedy, O'Brien and TDK missing. I am not sure we have worked out who are our best 22 and which group is the best 22. This is something we will need to work out if we are to progress.

Very quiet on this site after a loss.

Same old same old - soft gentle kicks from the backline across the ground that miss their targets or are easy to contest.  Backline appearing disorganised because the ball comes in so often, quickly and easily.  Dumb bombs from defense into attack where we have a one on three.  Miss easy shots for a goal, particularly when some momentum is starting to build our way to ensure we don't get too confident and get on a roll.

Maybe it is part of the induction into Carlton that this is what is required at the club!

Very quiet on this site after a loss.

Mental fatigue. It's caused when pre-season optimism collides with reality

Sick of watching and commenting on this crap. Why were so many players brushed off the ball by Saints? Intent? Core Strength? Our players are 3 years deep with "the best in the business". So for me it MUST be intent. I didn't see them fall over themselves.
Weitering early looked like a first year player - drinking the bathwater I hope not.
SPS needs to be dropped or play mid fwd. Problem is can't kick 40 metres for a set shot goal. Other than Stocker unsure who else they bring in.
Why wasn't McGovern played back, Try something ffs. He has played back in Adelaide. 3 tall fwd line wasn't working why persist? How do you get a leading option if your are coming through the guts and there are 3 fanning out? And when there is a lead up option how many times do we kick over the fwd head! Saints hit their targets - they aren't that much better than us.....are they?
If you are going to try Philp play Honey. Rather see 3rd tall be Kennedy. Does Sav Rocca still have a job as kicking coach? My God kicking for goal is a shambles. H has THE worst ball drop in the league. Yet we rush him back? Typical Carlton no matter who is coach or selector - see Kruzer over his career....
Maybe try De Koning, Kennedy, Stocker, Honey. Why not. Not like we are winning the flag. Try. Experiment. All the reasons the coach was employed. Hope he isn't getting fiddled with like a horse our Teaguey?

Sick of watching and commenting on this crap. Why were so many players brushed off the ball by Saints? Intent? Core Strength? Our players are 3 years deep with "the best in the business". So for me it MUST be intent. I didn't see them fall over themselves.
Weitering early looked like a first year player - drinking the bathwater I hope not.
SPS needs to be dropped or play mid fwd. Problem is can't kick 40 metres for a set shot goal. Other than Stocker unsure who else they bring in.
Why wasn't McGovern played back, Try something ffs. He has played back in Adelaide. 3 tall fwd line wasn't working why persist? How do you get a leading option if your are coming through the guts and there are 3 fanning out? And when there is a lead up option how many times do we kick over the fwd head! Saints hit their targets - they aren't that much better than us.....are they?
If you are going to try Philp play Honey. Rather see 3rd tall be Kennedy. Does Sav Rocca still have a job as kicking coach? My God kicking for goal is a shambles. H has THE worst ball drop in the league. Yet we rush him back? Typical Carlton no matter who is coach or selector - see Kruzer over his career....
Maybe try De Koning, Kennedy, Stocker, Honey. Why not. Not like we are winning the flag. Try. Experiment. All the reasons the coach was employed. Hope he isn't getting fiddled with like a horse our Teaguey?

My biggest disappointment is SPS. He was recruited with a dynamic and tough reputation combined with great skills. Remember the kid from Halls Creek? To me he seems lackadaisical bordering on slapdash and has little relish for the physical contest or the tackle. Needs a spell on the coal face with the message "shape up or ship out".

Agree Cookie, very frustrating player, has the skills but never impacts enough, will tease you with a nice piece of play then goes unsighted. Not physical but thats ok if you get the ball 30 times a game like a Craig Bradley and break up the opposition with line running and precision delivery but SPS just picks and chooses when he gets involved.
I'd be fielding offers at seasons end if he doesnt pick up the intensity, Cuningham is another frustrating player in the same boat IMO, you get teased with the BOG a week ago then it will be another 6 weeks before he impacts again.
Add Harry to that list too although I will cut him some injury slack and lack of continuity of games but when he lays back on some of those lazy kicks when we need a goal drives me nuts..kicks the boundary hard shot then misses the 30m gimme goal..FFS concentrate and look like its important to you..