All ready for tomorrow. Do you best, do your worst. As long as the Blues do their best!
Bugger!
There were some huge highlights, man how good is it to watch some awesome skills when Charlie flies and marks!! So nice to be excited by the footy again!!
The umpiring really pissed me off in the 3rd quarter, two not far enough kicks that our guys then got caught with the ball - they were longer f’ing kicks than PA did throughout the game with their short kicks. Really frustrating.
All in all a great effort and there is something to be excited by there, finally!
Right in this one, but couldn't sustain it in the last quarter.
Simmo was proud of the boys and so was i.
Happy with Pickett who early on showed what he showed pre-injury; that he will be a star.
Phillips did himself proud and hopefully a few others start to notice that he is a genuine talent. I'm already on board.
Curnowfides not only equalled his high standard last week but surpassed it. Lucky we signed him up already as his price probably would've just gone up again after that effort.
Simmo, was simmo. All class and a mere 1 point away from being BOG in the rankings. Game high 37 touches. Congrats
7 goalkickers, with Garlett unlucky to have not made it 8.....twice with reviews go against him.
Casboult managed 3 shots on goal from his, lowest on ground, 4 possessions but couldn't find the big sticks. Possibly the biggest negative of the day.
Plenty of green shoots today.
Garlett unlucky with two reviews....could have been a bit closer.
Their goals seemed to come in clusters
Simpson great effort in his 300th.
Polson made some mistakes ( a couple of big ones), and will be lucky to play next week.... but I like this kid...he attacks the player and ball with a purpose.
I reckon he'll be a good player in a year or two.
Garlett unlucky with two reviews....could have been a bit closer.
Their goals seemed to come in clusters
Simpson great effort in his 300th.
Polson made some mistakes ( a couple of big ones), and will be lucky to play next week.... but I like this kid...he attacks the player and ball with a purpose.
I reckon he'll be a good player in a year or two.
i agree about liking his attittude but its hard to see why hes getting more senior opoortunities at this point.
he just continues to make some real head scratching decisions
I know he's a player in his own right...but Curnow is so much like a young Kouta it's bizarre.
He's going to take a game by the scruff in the very near future and kick a bag.
i agree about liking his attittude but its hard to see why hes getting more senior opoortunities at this point.
he just continues to make some real head scratching decisions
No doubt....there's just something about his effort I like.
I reckon he probably needs to go back to the VFL next week and build on the senior experience.
Maybe another 1-2 games before the end of the season.
I also love Polson's game, those mistakes will be pointed out but we need to stick with him a much better option than Cunningham I reckon, forget about Kerridge, Lamb, Graham, etc etc. The kid needs to keep playing.
Key is now, after a few good games against good sides, is not to go to Brisbane next week and bring it all undone as we have the last 2 years.
No doubt....there's just something about his effort I like.
I reckon he probably needs to go back to the VFL next week and build on the senior experience.
Maybe another 1-2 games before the end of the season.
He does the team stuff, he’s constantly contesting and yes that huge mistake of going too close to the PA player which resulted in a goal and then another 2 in quick succession was crap but he competes his guts out.
I like him.
I bloody love Fish, so much talent there!
Polson is a dud IMO and lucky to have another contract...poor decision making and atrocious kicking, no point tackling well if you turn the ball over with brain dead decisions..
Graham another dud..
Lamb...dud
Weitering was also poor...poor contesting and poor turnovers especially early..
Mullet...useless,, prefer OShea at least he contests before turning the ball over, Mullet doesnt even get to first base...pathetic..
Casboult...real average too..
We were close to a win today but when you start 4-5 players short it makes it hard especially when when you get no luck with the goal umpires and the opposition are kicking goals out of their backsides ie Wingard..
Philips was a big plus and everytime I see him play he does well.....
Pickett...welcome back, added some spark and X factor...
Murphy was ok in patches.
Kennedy...improved as the game went on....
Charlie...gun player
Cripps...solid performer vs some class opposition..
Simpson... one of our best
Fisher...handy game
Rowe...Dixon got on top in the end but Sam wasnt too bad..
Jack...being tried down back and needs more games to evaluate..
Wright...some good but not enough from him
Garlett...unlucky with the goal umpies...not enough though..
Dow....ok at times, there for the education mainly..
Jones....very good, copped Gray early who is a star and held his own and continued to be a good player...
Not a bad effort today and if we had a few more contributors we might have won it for Kade Simpson today...
The likes of Mullet should review Simmo's tape and get a feeling for what commitment means, the bloke has the physical presence of a miniature poodle. Doesn't even chase with conviction.
The likes of Mullet should review Simmo's tape and get a feeling for what commitment means, the bloke has the physical presence of a miniature poodle. Doesn't even chase with conviction.
Mullet needs the NB's for the rest of the season then delisting, if you wont contest in a normal manner associated with playing the game then you cant be on a AFL list.... >:(
Polson is a dud IMO and lucky to have another contract...poor decision making and atrocious kicking, no point tackling well if you turn the ball over with brain dead decisions..
I used to think he was a dud, but am coming around.
Still think he is lucky to have a contract.
Decision making is not too bad, but he had some shockers today, which i gave him grace for because he's basically in his first year.
I have a soft spot for Levi, but after today, I'm struggling to remember why. Boy he really sh1ts me sometimes. That very last kick was about 30 out, almost in front. :(
Oh well, his time with us is much closer to the end than the beginning. That's something I guess.
Whatever issues Harry Mac has, he's a good set shot, and would have nailed 2 and possibly all 3 of those.
No doubt....there's just something about his effort I like.
I reckon he probably needs to go back to the VFL next week and build on the senior experience.
Maybe another 1-2 games before the end of the season.
I like something about him too, and dare I say it, that bloke everyone was talking about this week had a pretty quiet start to his career...
It was Polson's 5th game....I think we need to see a bit more...and the fact that he's been given an extension means the folks who know a bit more about him have deemed him worthy.
That doesn't mean that he wouldn't benefit from a few games in the VFL.
I have a soft spot for Levi, but after today, I'm struggling to remember why. Boy he really sh1ts me sometimes. That very last kick was about 30 out, almost in front. :(
Oh well, his time with us is much closer to the end than the beginning. That's something I guess.
Whatever issues Harry Mac has, he's a good set shot, and would have nailed 2 and possibly all 3 of those.
7 days after a compound fracture ?
You could have chopped his arm off with a blunt butter knife while he was watching and he wouldn’t have flinched, but yeah he did stink it up out there.
I used to think he was a dud, but am coming around.
Still think he is lucky to have a contract.
Decision making is not too bad, but he had some shockers today, which i gave him grace for because he's basically in his first year.
Agreed, the kid has some go.
On a separate issue, should he have even been playing the week after we got fined for playing him concussed?
The worry isn't a kids getting stuff all possessions, the worry is the experienced AFL players sitting at the bottom of the pile like Mullett, Lamb and Casboult. Some of them have zero possessions at half time, what was that an historical recreation of Simmo's first 90 minutes of football! :o
I have a soft spot for Levi, but after today, I'm struggling to remember why. Boy he really sh1ts me sometimes. That very last kick was about 30 out, almost in front. :(
Oh well, his time with us is much closer to the end than the beginning. That's something I guess.
Whatever issues Harry Mac has, he's a good set shot, and would have nailed 2 and possibly all 3 of those.
Remember he's been injured. He obviously wasn't match ready to come back though the AFL and should've played VFL. Problem alot of supporters have is they expect players to bounce straight in and look like stars despite not being match fit or carrying an injury. Some can do it, usually the stars, alot can't. when they can't supporters lose theit $hit. Now sure what they expect. Hands up those who spent the year bagging Kennedy not knowing his circumstances. Supporters often talk with their frustrations, not their brains.
I've liked how Levi's come along playing 103 games coming from the pits of the rookie draft. He was only there though until McKay, Kerr come along. Curnow is already there and a superstar. now they are ready enough we should be going down that line now, now Levi, especially a half fit one. Done well enough holding the fort with his limited ability after Waite/Henderson left but it's time now we go with the younger players, especially with one win and 13 losses.
It was Polson's 5th game....I think we need to see a bit more...and the fact that he's been given an extension means the folks who know a bit more about him have deemed him worthy.
That doesn't mean that he wouldn't benefit from a few games in the VFL.
The folks who knew a bit more about Paul Bower kept giving him contracts too......Polson is real lucky to get another contract based on what he has delivered IMO.
The folks who knew a bit more about Paul Bower kept giving him contracts too......Polson is real lucky to get another contract based on what he has delivered IMO.
Do you get to any VFL EB1?
Seriously, this kid Polson deserved a game 5 or 6 weeks back when SoJ got a game for doing nada! Further to that, listening to the radio today while watching the game it was heart breaking to hear the so called experts questioning SoJ's future, they basically accused our club of manufacturing a position for him! But that's been the worry all along, a game for the name, and when the luddites in the media get hold of that concept you know it's no longer a mere subtlety!
Then when Polson is run out of form, after 3 or 4 really good weeks in the VFL, for reasons I do not know they promote him to AFL! We've been doing this sh1t for years! It's like there is some bean-counting fork-wit adding up how many kilometres they run before they get a big boy game!
The folks who knew a bit more about Paul Bower kept giving him contracts too......Polson is real lucky to get another contract based on what he has delivered IMO.
Possibly..but the Bower folk have moved on.
There is an upside to this bloke...whether he makes it or not won't be known this season.
But we'll bookmark it. ;)
The folks who knew a bit more about Paul Bower kept giving him contracts too......Polson is real lucky to get another contract based on what he has delivered IMO.
I'm with you Elwood, I haven't seen a thing from him that makes me think he'll cut it at AFL level.
If he gets a game next week we aren't fair dinkum.
We have alot of good kids who have played some good footy this year, plus we have 2 bonafide superstars. Injuries or not we should be doing better than just one win from 14 games after 13 on top of close losses in the last 2 years. Thank goodness for Essendon!
I'm with you Elwood, I haven't seen a thing from him that makes me think he'll cut it at AFL level.
If he gets a game next week we aren't fair dinkum.
On form he probably shouldn't.
But I'm backing him down the track...we'll have to wait and see.
"I told you so's" can wait 12 months...he's with us for a while. ;)
Noticed today that he's quite vocal on field too...directing others.
So he doesn't lack for confidence.
Key is now, after a few good games against good sides, is not to go to Brisbane next week and bring it all undone as we have the last 2 years.
Maybe the coach can find two players...one for Zorko and one for Beams......hasnt bothered in the past but maybe this time we can just
do some pre planning and work out who has been doing the damage against us and not let history repeat itself like it has for the last 2-3 seasons...
Polson is a dud IMO and lucky to have another contract...poor decision making and atrocious kicking, no point tackling well if you turn the ball over with brain dead decisions..
Graham another dud..
Lamb...dud
Weitering was also poor...poor contesting and poor turnovers especially early..
Mullet...useless,, prefer OShea at least he contests before turning the ball over, Mullet doesnt even get to first base...pathetic..
Casboult...real average too..
We were close to a win today but when you start 4-5 players short it makes it hard especially when when you get no luck with the goal umpires and the opposition are kicking goals out of their backsides ie Wingard..
Philips was a big plus and everytime I see him play he does well.....
Pickett...welcome back, added some spark and X factor...
Murphy was ok in patches.
Kennedy...improved as the game went on....
Charlie...gun player
Cripps...solid performer vs some class opposition..
Simpson... one of our best
Fisher...handy game
Rowe...Dixon got on top in the end but Sam wasnt too bad..
Jack...being tried down back and needs more games to evaluate..
Wright...some good but not enough from him
Garlett...unlucky with the goal umpies...not enough though..
Dow....ok at times, there for the education mainly..
Jones....very good, copped Gray early who is a star and held his own and continued to be a good player...
Not a bad effort today and if we had a few more contributors we might have won it for Kade Simpson today...
Went along, Simmo was awesome and it was a real shame the boys couldnt get it done today. Poor old Pulse had a shocker, some critical 50s given away. 2 pts at 3/4 time and I thought we were a real chance. Flippa was very good today, Charlie is just special and as I said last week, will only get better, and I mean scary better. I liked bits of Picketts game, what a shame he got injured early in the year. He is just what we need. The difference today was they kicked the ones they had to and we didn't. Wrighty had one to forget and has been ordinary by his standards for a bit. We simply cant carry passengers (Mullet, SPS, Polson).
I normally tend to avoid talking about umpires but they had a shocker today.
Not sure about the rules these days but it used to be that if you made a goal post move it used to be a goal. Garletts second shot was overturned on video review after the PA player smashed into the post trying to touch it. The post was wobbling like crazy before the ball went through. I thought that negated the hit-the-post rule?
Hit the back of the post too. Dodgy call I reckon.
Not sure about the rules these days but it used to be that if you made a goal post move it used to be a goal. Garletts second shot was overturned on video review after the PA player smashed into the post trying to touch it. The post was wobbling like crazy before the ball went through. I thought that negated the hit-the-post rule?
Hit the back of the post too. Dodgy call I reckon.
Yes, it used to be a free kick if someone deliberately wobbled the post, I'm not sure about a collision with it!
Do you get to any VFL EB1?
Seriously, this kid deserved a game 5 or 6 weeks back when SoJ got a game for doing nada! Further to that, listening to the radio today while watching the game it was heart breaking to hear the so called experts questioning SoJ's future, they basically accused our club of manufacturing a position for him! But that's been the worry all along, a game for the name, and when the luddites in the media get hold of that concept you know it's no longer a subtlety!
Then when Polson is run out of form, after 3 or 4 really good weeks, for reasons I do not know they promote him! We've been doing this sh1t for years!
Get to the odd game LP....watched Polson a couple of times and he was ok without being brilliant, I see a pick 60 odd player who has a go but lacks nous and some fundamentals...
I would have played Darcy Lang today...
If Kreuzer has a few issues with concussion Phillips will get a few more goes at it. Today was his best game around the ground where normally he doesn't do alot. Hardest part is when both are fit as it goes pear shape for both of them, and the side, when they both play. We have a hard enough time up forward let alone having a ruckman stuck up there most of the game with no idea how to play the role.
McKay in for Levi next week to play his role. The latter has lost touch completely after his injury run. Want to see De Konning get a run before the year is out. Looks a player both in the ruck and as a key forward.
7 days after a compound fracture ?
You could have chopped his arm off with a blunt butter knife while he was watching and he wouldn’t have flinched, but yeah he did stink it up out there.
My words might seem unfair, but I'm not sure his injuries explain his goal kicking. I can understand his minimal effectiveness around the ground may be attributable to his time out, but even then, frankly, I think I'm being generous.
One thing that has become crystal clear in my own life in recent times is that all of us have an inherent "upper limit", and no amount of practice, training, coaching etc. will get you to break that limit. By all accounts, Levi is the first one in, last one out with goal kicking practice, and has been so since Rocca started. He trains hard, has the right attitude, seems like a good team man etc., but after 7, 8 seasons and a tick over 100 games, I reckon he's reached his upper limit. His goal kicking has improved, but he's still too unreliable IMO. I don't like saying it, I really don't.
Went along, Simmo was awesome and it was a real shame the boys couldnt get it done today. Poor old Pulse had a shocker, some critical 50s given away. 2 pts at 3/4 time and I thought we were a real chance. Flippa was very good today, Charlie is just special and as I said last week, will only get better, and I mean scary better. I liked bits of Picketts game, what a shame he got injured early in the year. He is just what we need. The difference today was they kicked the ones they had to and we didn't. Wrighty had one to forget and has been ordinary by his standards for a bit. We simply cant carry passengers (Mullet, SPS, Polson).
I normally tend to avoid talking about umpires but they had a shocker today.
I cut SPS some slack as he had 7 tackles...Rowe, Lamb, Weitering and Jack had one tackle each......Mullet had two :o......very hard to win a game when your defenders dont pressure.
Not sure about the rules these days but it used to be that if you made a goal post move it used to be a goal. Garletts second shot was overturned on video review after the PA player smashed into the post trying to touch it. The post was wobbling like crazy before the ball went through. I thought that negated the hit-the-post rule?
Hit the back of the post too. Dodgy call I reckon.
I thought the Garlett goal was overturned because our bloke touched the ball, or was that another?
Get to the odd game LP....watched Polson a couple of times and he was ok without being brilliant, I see a pick 60 odd player who has a go but lacks nous and some fundamentals...
I would have played Darcy Lang today...
I can make excuses for Polson and the other kids, but Lang didn't put in during his last few games and for that he has zero excuse!
Lang looks like a bloke who's pull up stumps because his old club didn't love him, he has the look of being on a stopover at Carlton half-way to his preferred destination!
I thought the Garlett goal was overturned because our bloke touched the ball, or was that another?
He had two reversed.
I cut SPS some slack as he had 7 tackles...Rowe, Lamb, Weitering and Jack had one tackle each......Mullet had two :o......very hard to win a game when your defenders dont pressure.
I saw the seven tackles stat, pretty sure they were in the second half mostly, did SFA for the first two. I just can work out what his role is.
Just got back from the game... torrential rain for most of the drive in then voila, around about Brighton it stopped! Ripper.
Love being there life, you get to take in so much more in many respects, especially though, seeing the broader picture enables you to see who's thinking ahead of the game and so on.
The atmosphere was better than expected, and except for the 2nd half of the 2nd qtr, we were right in it. Port are very undisciplined, they started to lairise in that 2nd qtr.
Great seeing Charlie live, what an excitement machine.
I also liked the games of Simmo, Crippa, Phillips, Kennedy, Pickett, Garlett...
Murph started slow but eventually started to show his class,
Kennedy improving again,
don't know what's up with SPS,
Ed was solid,
reckon this kid Polson is worth persevering with... pace to burn, great attitude and endeavour but disposal by foot needs work,
Jones is a ripper...
generally really pleased with most of our guys and their effort for Simmo.
Stunk: Weitering, Casboult, Mullett and Lamb. All made rookie mistakes and handed easy possessions to Port. Being so close we got to see just how slow Weitering is.
The transformation in Jones has been astounding, he'd be among the first half dozen picked these days and he'd get a game at most AFL clubs.
Do we chalk him up to Malthouse?
Arrived home feeling like I'd just spent a few months with Scott in the Antarctic. Nevertheless we put in a reasonable effort for Simmo's 300th. Second qtr was very ordinary and missed chances and some baffling umpire calls generally ensured we weren't in the hunt. We no doubt have some exciting emerging talent, Charlie, Fish, Pickett stood out for me but we have too many very ordinary lesser lights and Levi had a particularly bad one.
Good to see Simmo with his 38 possessions for his big milestone.
Bit of work for SoS to do in the draft/trade periods.
It was disappointing that we couldn’t get the job done for Simmo but I think that we used most our gas in the third quarter.
Kennedy showed a bit today and I reckon he has good career ahead oh him. He looked dangerous when he went forward too.
Poison had a crack and he was very unlucky with the 50m penalties. I thought one wasn’t there and the other was borderline but a lot of the umpiring was hard to follow.
Simmo, Cripps and Ed worked their butts off and Rowe was very good; probably the best game I’ve seen him play since his injury.
It’s probably uncharitable to mention it, and good on them for travelling interstate to support their team, but so many Port supporters are very unattractive ????
The transformation in Jones has been astounding, he'd be among the first half dozen picked these days and he'd get a game at most AFL clubs.
Do we chalk him up to Malthouse?
Iirc MM is a family friend of Liam's?
I saw the seven tackles stat, pretty sure they were in the second half mostly, did SFA for the first two. I just can work out what his role is.
Sometimes that's the issue. Players are confused as to their roles. The Swans strength is to make good players out of the ordinary by simply giving those players roles they are suited too.
Not that it made a difference but....
The Garlett "no goal" where Pickett looked to have touched it was a bit dubious from the replay at first viewing.
It was hard to see a touch as Pickett appeared to move his hand away and it wasn't clear to me he'd touched it.
I'd like to see it again.
Arrived home feeling like I'd just spent a few months with Scott in the Antarctic. Nevertheless we put in a reasonable effort for Simmo's 300th. Second qtr was very ordinary and missed chances and some baffling umpire calls generally ensured we weren't in the hunt. We no doubt have some exciting emerging talent, Charlie, Fish, Pickett stood out for me but we have too many very ordinary lesser lights and Levi had a particularly bad one.
Good to see Simmo with his 38 possessions for his big milestone.
Bit of work for SoS to do in the draft/trade periods.
Yes, the bottom half dozen today a real worry but remember when you flick that 6 or so (Mullet,Polson, Lamb to name but 3) and replace with Willo, Doc, Marchy, Plow (and add Daisy and a fit Lang/Byrne into that mix)....that's a big uplift in quality and output, more importantly.
Reckon the Pickett/Garlett duo will give many a team headaches for years to come. Garlett looks laconic but doubt he is....should be thrown into the guts or in Mullet's role at HBF to get him involved and up to speed some times....
Stunk: Weitering, Casboult, Mullett and Lamb. All made rookie mistakes and handed easy possessions to Port. Being so close we got to see just how slow Weitering is.
Polson stunk it up too, bugger all touches which included a few absolute howlers plus a dumb 50 metres.
It's never good to bag kids early on but there's no use trying to sugar coat it.
I thought that Lamb was OK to be honest, and I'm not a fan.
It was Garlett's best game for us easily.
Sometimes that's the issue. Players are confused as to their roles. The Swans strength is to make good players out of the ordinary by simply giving those players roles they are suited too.
I saw him try run with SPP for a little bit. Most of the time, he seems to wander around aimlessly without an opponent pointing to spaces, gesturing, but not anything in particular. Not suggesting he the reason we lost today, I just dont understand his role or what his contribution to the side is ATM. I said in another thread, he seems "lost" most of the time to me. He is young and they are getting games into him, I get that. Other than that...
Arrived home feeling like I'd just spent a few months with Scott in the Antarctic. Nevertheless we put in a reasonable effort for Simmo's 300th. Second qtr was very ordinary and missed chances and some baffling umpire calls generally ensured we weren't in the hunt. We no doubt have some exciting emerging talent, Charlie, Fish, Pickett stood out for me but we have too many very ordinary lesser lights and Levi had a particularly bad one.
Good to see Simmo with his 38 possessions for his big milestone.
Bit of work for SoS to do in the draft/trade periods.
Know the feeling! Glad we made the trip though for the champ's 300th... and what a game he put in. Contract extension for 2019? Yep.
The transformation in Jones has been astounding, he'd be among the first half dozen picked these days and he'd get a game at most AFL clubs.
Do we chalk him up to Malthouse?
I don't think he's transformed - he's a frustrating player and a tease. One week (like today) very good, then the next week, dumb as dogsh1t and gets 8 kicked on him.
Delisted by the Dogs, almost delisted by us, and has only really shown positive signs under Bolton. And the same goes for Daisy, who has only earned his keep in the last couple of seasons.
Weitering isnt the player he was, he doesnt defend anymore and is purely a intercept marking player...Westhoff beat him up bad early and it was largely due to JW trying to corral his man rather than play close and defend him. Not sure what his coaching instructions are but its baffling to me why he isnt playing close to his man and has this non physical approach. His decision making is also astray, he is a smart footballer making poor choices especially when kicking, kicked back into the corridor several times and failed to hit the target causing turnovers and indirectly goals.
Jack Silvagni.....poor young Jack has had more jobs than most...he is like a training kid on work experience....one week he is forward, next week he is playing onball and then the following week he is down back having to give other players chop outs when they leave their man and he gets stuck next to the likes of Charlie Dixon in a one on one marking duel. How is this helping Jack, what sort of development is it that wont allow a kid to settle, why trial him as a mid then send him down back?.....
Something isnt right....
Weitering isnt the player he was, he doesnt defend anymore and is purely a intercept marking player...Westhoff beat him up bad early and it was largely due to JW trying to corral his man rather than play close and defend him. Not sure what his coaching instructions are but its baffling to me why he isnt playing close to his man and has this non physical approach. His decision making is also astray, he is a smart footballer making poor choices especially when kicking, kicked back into the corridor several times and failed to hit the target causing turnovers and indirectly goals.
Jack Silvagni.....poor young Jack has had more jobs than most...he is like a training kid on work experience....one week he is forward, next week he is playing onball and then the following week he is down back having to give other players chop outs when they leave their man and he gets stuck next to the likes of Charlie Dixon in a one on one marking duel. How is this helping Jack, what sort of development is it that wont allow a kid to settle, why trial him as a mid then send him down back?.....
Something isnt right....
You can tell though both are super smart footballers.
Weitering isnt the player he was, he doesnt defend anymore and is purely a intercept marking player...Westhoff beat him up bad early and it was largely due to JW trying to corral his man rather than play close and defend him. Not sure what his coaching instructions are but its baffling to me why he isnt playing close to his man and has this non physical approach. His decision making is also astray, he is a smart footballer making poor choices especially when kicking, kicked back into the corridor several times and failed to hit the target causing turnovers and indirectly goals.
Jack Silvagni.....poor young Jack has had more jobs than most...he is like a training kid on work experience....one week he is forward, next week he is playing onball and then the following week he is down back having to give other players chop outs when they leave their man and he gets stuck next to the likes of Charlie Dixon in a one on one marking duel. How is this helping Jack, what sort of development is it that wont allow a kid to settle, why trial him as a mid then send him down back?.....
Something isnt right....
Weitering might be better when he has a position he can call his own. Confidence is a wonderful thing. Right now we have Rowe, Jones back there and before then plowman as well. Like alot of our players they don't know what their role is.
Not sure about the rules these days but it used to be that if you made a goal post move it used to be a goal. Garletts second shot was overturned on video review after the PA player smashed into the post trying to touch it. The post was wobbling like crazy before the ball went through. I thought that negated the hit-the-post rule?
Hit the back of the post too. Dodgy call I reckon.
Commentators clarified at the time.
If it is a deliberate push of the post then it won't be tolerated. I think you can even get suspended for it. Not sure about a goal, but probably a free kick in front.
If its not deliberate, as in a player is trying to touch the ball, then its a non-issue.
So assuming the commentators were correct, the umps got it right,
Not that it made a difference but....
The Garlett "no goal" where Pickett looked to have touched it was a bit dubious from the replay at first viewing.
It was hard to see a touch as Pickett appeared to move his hand away and it wasn't clear to me he'd touched it.
I'd like to see it again.
Not sure the size of the TV you were watching on, nor the quality of your eyesight, but it was clear as day to me. Pickett touched it.
That being said, i'm sure SOS will have nightmares about Michael Long tonight. ::)
Weitering isnt the player he was, he doesnt defend anymore and is purely a intercept marking player...Westhoff beat him up bad early and it was largely due to JW trying to corral his man rather than play close and defend him. Not sure what his coaching instructions are but its baffling to me why he isnt playing close to his man and has this non physical approach. His decision making is also astray, he is a smart footballer making poor choices especially when kicking, kicked back into the corridor several times and failed to hit the target causing turnovers and indirectly goals.
Part of my questioning of Weitering spot in the side in the pre-season was based on some of what you just said there.
He isn't great 1-on-1 and other are playing the intercept marking position better than him as specifically Jones, is taller, quicker, more agile and has more desperation when going for the interception/spoil.
Also he has a bad habit of going sideways first. It was very evident early on, all our blokes were pushing to use the corridor and Weitering would go sideways before even looking into the corridor.
A lack of confidence can do terrible things to a smart footballer. I'm guessing he is over analysing each situation when he should be playing more on instinct and not second guessing himself.
Part of my questioning of Weitering spot in the side in the pre-season was based on some of what you just said there.
He isn't great 1-on-1 and other are playing the intercept marking position better than him as specifically Jones, is taller, quicker, more agile and has more desperation when going for the interception/spoil.
Also he has a bad habit of going sideways first. It was very evident early on, all our blokes were pushing to use the corridor and Weitering would go sideways before even looking into the corridor.
A lack of confidence can do terrible things to a smart footballer. I'm guessing he is over analysing each situation when he should be playing more on instinct and not second guessing himself.
Yep...looking to kick short sideways is lacking confidence to hit the longer target, a feature of his early play was his long kicking to position now he tries to play safe by going sideways, as soon as that option isnt on
he then get the wobbles up and makes poor choices with poor execution..
Its sad seeing a kid who is a smart skilled footballer lacking the faith in himself and feeling so much pressure, maybe setting the bar so high early for himself has got to him....
Not sure the size of the TV you were watching on, nor the quality of your eyesight, but it was clear as day to me. Pickett touched it.
That being said, i'm sure SOS will have nightmares about Michael Long tonight. ::)
Mine's a little phone.
Curiously, one reason good sides do well is the ability to give players defined roles. What are the defined roles of some of our players?
Roles are probably harder to define when there are so many injuries and players out of necessity are moved around. Much easier where there a a core of experienced and good players and the youngsters/fringe players just have to fit in and not be the major playmakers.
Not sure the size of the TV you were watching on, nor the quality of your eyesight, but it was clear as day to me. Pickett touched it.
That being said, i'm sure SOS will have nightmares about Michael Long tonight. ::)
I said I'd have to see it again.... but the shot I saw the ball was in front of (obscuring) Pickett's hand, definitely heading towards it, and he pulled it away. I couldn't say whether he touched it or not but maybe another angle was more definitive.
It's easier to work out who can do what role well in a settled team.
We spend half our games covering injured players with kids playing in their first year.
Dow is a fine young talent but he shouldn't be a walk up start at this point because he isn't that good yet.
That's where we are at though. Even lachie o brien has played more than he should have at this point.
Curiously, one reason good sides do well is the ability to give players defined roles. What are the defined roles of some of our players?
Yet Hawthorn at their best boasted that each of their players can fill three or four roles - as Sam Rowe did last week.
Players should have a defined role but must be adaptable enough to switch to another role as demanded by the state of the game, injuries, players down on form, etc.
Our problem is that we are expecting players with all of 20 games under their belt to do the heavy lifting.
I said I'd have to see it again.... but the shot I saw the ball was in front of (obscuring) Pickett's hand, definitely heading towards it, and he pulled it away. I couldn't say whether he touched it or not but maybe another angle was more definitive.
The vision on the big screen at the G suggested that Pickett got his hand out of the way ... hard to be sure though :-\
The vision on the big screen at the G suggested that Pickett got his hand out of the way ... hard to be sure though :-\
I've just had another look and there definitely was a touch but I had to look at the replay twice.
I've just had another look and there definitely was a touch but I had to look at the replay twice.
Watching on the app the replays mDe it clear that Pickett touched it, as did the eventual replay of the poster.
Watching on the app the replays mDe it clear that Pickett touched it, as did the eventual replay of the poster.
I just think anything that is overturned after review is there - they don’t just guess, it is looked at closely.
Roles are probably harder to define when there are so many injuries and players out of necessity are moved around. Much easier where there a a core of experienced and good players and the youngsters/fringe players just have to fit in and not be the major playmakers.
As far as i can tell, there are quite a few clearly defined roles at the club.
Casboult. Kick as many points as possible, sometimes he misses and gets 6.
Oshea and Mullet, run around pretending to be footballers going at 80%. Cause multiple turnovers ensuring gets goals from them.
I've just had another look and there definitely was a touch but I had to look at the replay twice.
Yep, on the big screen you could clearly see the fingers moved by the ball, darn...
Weitering isnt the player he was, he doesnt defend anymore and is purely a intercept marking player...Westhoff beat him up bad early and it was largely due to JW trying to corral his man rather than play close and defend him. Not sure what his coaching instructions are but its baffling to me why he isnt playing close to his man and has this non physical approach. His decision making is also astray, he is a smart footballer making poor choices especially when kicking, kicked back into the corridor several times and failed to hit the target causing turnovers and indirectly goals.
Something isnt right....
I fear he maybe our Jack Watts.
Rowe and Jones are way ahead of JW as neither is slow, nor do they mind a scrap/body on body. JW too often plays like his legs are concrete and he's just had a valium sandwich.
Polson stunk it up too, bugger all touches which included a few absolute howlers plus a dumb 50 metres.
It's never good to bag kids early on but there's no use trying to sugar coat it.
I thought that Lamb was OK to be honest, and I'm not a fan.
It was Garlett's best game for us easily.
I was pretty brutal on Polson during the game yesterday as he butchered it.
But on reflection I think there was enough there to justify keeping him around. He needs time. The sorts of mistakes were really "youngster" type mistakes. Running from half back to forward 50 with 4 power players in tow was impressive. Butchering the shot was disappointing but if it was his 50th game and not his 5th maybe that shot goes through. He's got that bit of intensity about him which I like.
Polson is a dud IMO and lucky to have another contract...poor decision making and atrocious kicking, no point tackling well if you turn the ball over with brain dead decisions..
Graham another dud..
Lamb...dud
Weitering was also poor...poor contesting and poor turnovers especially early..
Mullet...useless,, prefer OShea at least he contests before turning the ball over, Mullet doesnt even get to first base...pathetic..
Casboult...real average too..
We were close to a win today but when you start 4-5 players short it makes it hard especially when when you get no luck with the goal umpires and the opposition are kicking goals out of their backsides ie Wingard..
Philips was a big plus and everytime I see him play he does well.....
Pickett...welcome back, added some spark and X factor...
Murphy was ok in patches.
Kennedy...improved as the game went on....
Charlie...gun player
Cripps...solid performer vs some class opposition..
Simpson... one of our best
Fisher...handy game
Rowe...Dixon got on top in the end but Sam wasnt too bad..
Jack...being tried down back and needs more games to evaluate..
Wright...some good but not enough from him
Garlett...unlucky with the goal umpies...not enough though..
Dow....ok at times, there for the education mainly..
Jones....very good, copped Gray early who is a star and held his own and continued to be a good player...
Not a bad effort today and if we had a few more contributors we might have won it for Kade Simpson today...
Elwood, I respect your opinions and your passion, but I can't agree with these. Really harsh and unfair.
Set 1:
Polson is a dud IMO and lucky to have another contract...poor decision making and atrocious kicking, no point tackling well if you turn the ball over with brain dead decisions.. I disagree. I tend to feel a bit more like the previous posters. Polson had a bad day: his mistake stood out. But he has a dip, tackles likes he means it and has potential. He needs more time to develop, this is certain. I was incredibly annoyed with his long kick to nobody, as it cost us a goal, but he was totally ripped off with the 2 50 m penalties. Those decisions were simply wrong. I would have him in the VFL next week, if there is a small to bring in, but I wouldn't throw him away. I think he can be a player. I seem to remember Simmo have 3 forgettable games to starting his career.
Graham another dud.. I think Graham will end up leaving this year. He fell out of the game yesterday badly, but his first quarter was fantastic and he all of our centre clearances in the first half. Every single one! We finally played him on the ball and he responded. He ended with 20 possessions.
Lamb...dud I think Lamb did very well in defence yesterday, one of his best games. He is never going to be a star, but he really did a job yesterday.
Weitering was also poor...poor contesting and poor turnovers especially early.. Not Weitering's best game, I agree. I was disappointed with his start to the game. However, he also managed to get control of his man and took 6 marks. He has some way to go, and I don't like his lack of speed, but he also not our worst.
Mullet...useless,, prefer OShea at least he contests before turning the ball over, Mullet doesnt even get to first base...pathetic.. I am not a great fan of Mullett's. He wouldn't be playing if we didn't have so many injuries and I don't think he is a long term option. However, he played one of his better games yesterday. (Faint praise indeed. :) ) He managed to get his hand on the ball in some crucial contests and also held his own.
Casboult...real average too.. Levi had one of his worst ever games yesterday. He didn't chase. He didn't tackle. He kicked poorly. He didn't do much rucking. He needs to be playing in the VFL next week to get his form and touch back. I was disappointed about him more so than any others because I know what he can produce. In this one you may be generous.
I fear he maybe our Jack Watts.
Rowe and Jones are way ahead of JW as neither is slow, nor do they mind a scrap/body on body. JW too often plays like his legs are concrete and he's just had a valium sandwich.
Regarding weitering kicking into the middle, there was one kick in the last quarter that was a great kick, but just to the wrong person, I think it was wright on this occassion. Pretty sure they were doing that to instruction which worked in 3q.
Agree tho, weitering shows zero aggression or jntensity. That chest mark to westoff in the 3rd I think was a joke.
Weitering isnt the player he was, he doesnt defend anymore and is purely a intercept marking player...Westhoff beat him up bad early and it was largely due to JW trying to corral his man rather than play close and defend him. Not sure what his coaching instructions are but its baffling to me why he isnt playing close to his man and has this non physical approach. His decision making is also astray, he is a smart footballer making poor choices especially when kicking, kicked back into the corridor several times and failed to hit the target causing turnovers and indirectly goals. To be honest, he hasn't been the same since he injured his shoulder. He used to be fearless. I don't see that any longer. Nor do I like it: he stood out as kid because he didn't think twice, he just went for it and got the job done. Not sure what is going on there, but I would be working extra hard with Jacob over the next pre-season on all of his weaknesses: his pace, his contesting and his active defending. I want to see tackles and chases. I want to see him confident enough to take a risk and to bring it off.
Jack Silvagni.....poor young Jack has had more jobs than most...he is like a training kid on work experience....one week he is forward, next week he is playing onball and then the following week he is down back having to give other players chop outs when they leave their man and he gets stuck next to the likes of Charlie Dixon in a one on one marking duel. How is this helping Jack, what sort of development is it that wont allow a kid to settle, why trial him as a mid then send him down back?.....
Something isnt right.... At the moment our injuries have us filling gaps as we can, not as we should. But I really want to see more oomph from Jack and a little more thought as to his development. If he has to spend more time in the VFL learning his craft, so be it. After all, SOS did early in his career.
I know he's a player in his own right...but Curnow is so much like a young Kouta it's bizarre.
He's going to take a game by the scruff in the very near future and kick a bag.
I think he might actually be ahead of Kouta at the same stage... Kouta did take a few years to emerge.
Curnow's last two weeks (and watching him live yesterday)... his potential is completely off the charts. Absolute joy to watch.
I think he might actually be ahead of Kouta at the same stage... Kouta did take a few years to emerge.
Curnow's last two weeks (and watching him live yesterday)... his potential is completely off the charts. Absolute joy to watch.
Definitely ahead of Kouta at the same stage. Miles ahead.
Elwood, I respect your opinions and your passion, but I can't agree with these. Really harsh and unfair.
Set 1:
Polson is a dud IMO and lucky to have another contract...poor decision making and atrocious kicking, no point tackling well if you turn the ball over with brain dead decisions.. I disagree. I tend to feel a bit more like the previous posters. Polson had a bad day: his mistake stood out. But he has a dip, tackles likes he means it and has potential. He needs more time to develop, this is certain. I was incredibly annoyed with his long kick to nobody, as it cost us a goal, but he was totally ripped off with the 2 50 m penalties. Those decisions were simply wrong. I would have him in the VFL next week, if there is a small to bring in, but I wouldn't throw him away. I think he can be a player. I seem to remember Simmo have 3 forgettable games to starting his career.
Graham another dud.. I think Graham will end up leaving this year. He fell out of the game yesterday badly, but his first quarter was fantastic and he all of our centre clearances in the first half. Every single one! We finally played him on the ball and he responded. He ended with 20 possessions.
Lamb...dud I think Lamb did very well in defence yesterday, one of his best games. He is never going to be a star, but he really did a job yesterday.
Weitering was also poor...poor contesting and poor turnovers especially early.. Not Weitering's best game, I agree. I was disappointed with his start to the game. However, he also managed to get control of his man and took 6 marks. He has some way to go, and I don't like his lack of speed, but he also not our worst.
Mullet...useless,, prefer OShea at least he contests before turning the ball over, Mullet doesnt even get to first base...pathetic.. I am not a great fan of Mullett's. He wouldn't be playing if we didn't have so many injuries and I don't think he is a long term option. However, he played one of his better games yesterday. (Faint praise indeed. :) ) He managed to get his hand on the ball in some crucial contests and also held his own.
Casboult...real average too.. Levi had one of his worst ever games yesterday. He didn't chase. He didn't tackle. He kicked poorly. He didn't do much rucking. He needs to be playing in the VFL next week to get his form and touch back. I was disappointed about him more so than any others because I know what he can produce. In this one you may be generous.
Respect your opinions too Crash and its all subjective......I guess I am over players failing at the basic skills and being unable to compete properly, it was Simpsons 300 and it we had 4-5 players who just didnt contribute.
1. Polson...yep the kid has a crack and tackles, chases ok but he still plays High School footy IMO and some of those kicks were horrible, just basic errors that you shouldnt be making at senior level.
2.Weitering...wouldnt say he got hold of his man at all, Port used Westhoff in the ruck and then sent him down back like they usually do to shore up the backline, Weitering got lucky they moved him around and he wasnt on him for 100mins or it would have been real ugly as he just couldnt handle him and its not like the Hoff is the most physical CHF going around either and plays the game in a more gentleman like manner than most...
3. Graham is just ineffectual...if you asked a supporter for a Graham highlight yesterday you would be struggling....I just remember him at half back trying to sell candy, too slow, and turned the ball over....
4. Lamb wasnt our worst I will agree and maybe I was too harsh on him but he is a fringe player who doesnt do enough most games and I expect him to be delisted...
5. Casboult was poor but at least he had an excuse as he hasnt been playing, but I am still over him and his poor kicking.....
6. Mullet...keep saying it but Brad Scott told us why he was let go and we didnt listen...just doesnt contest and wants the easy kick out back....Byrne played in the NB's and while he is a loose defender he does contest when called upon so I'd rather him back in the lineup...watching Mullet watching the play and doing nothing just gets me boiling...
Definitely ahead of Kouta at the same stage. Miles ahead.
Yep
I'll concede that.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=4&playerStatus2=I&tid2=4&type=A&pid1=4163&pid2=309&fid1=S&fid2=P&fopt2=1994
Yep
I'll concede that.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=4&playerStatus2=I&tid2=4&type=A&pid1=4163&pid2=309&fid1=S&fid2=P&fopt2=1994
Kouta first showed how good he was during that disastrous 1994 finals series. He showed he could handle the big occasion.
Kouta first showed how good he was during that disastrous 1994 finals series. He showed he could handle the big occasion.
Charlie's potential is enormous but Kouta's game in the 99 preliminary remains the best individual game I've ever seen from any player.
If Charlie can even get within a bull's roar of that he'll be a gun.
@Crash
Crash I'd like to get your thoughts an SPS's game yesterday. What's your analysis?
@Crash
Crash I'd like to get your thoughts an SPS's game yesterday. What's your analysis?
There were some good points, but SPS just isn't doing enough. He isn't showing the aggression or the intensity that I'd like to see. There were times when he did show some real magic, but he, more than anyone else, appears to be suffering from 2nd year blues. Only 4 times this year has SPS been in our top 10 players. Considering what he can do, it just isn't enough.
There were some good points, but SPS just isn't doing enough. He isn't showing the aggression or the intensity that I'd like to see. There were times when he did show some real magic, but he, more than anyone else, appears to be suffering from 2nd year blues. Only 4 times this year has SPS been in our top 10 players. Considering what he can do, it just isn't enough.
Yet if he went back to the VFL he'd probably look a million dollars and dominate.
Maybe he needs to do that just as a lesson that he's not above that...but I don't think we'd be much the wiser as to his ability (we know he has the skills) and I don't think he'd learn a lot from the experience developmentally.
It's a difficult one.
Dropping him will do nada....he still gives a lot more than Polson, Mullet, SOJ etc e tc etc.
For sure, he often appears to cruise but those good enough always looks to have heaps of time. Is he working hard enough defensively? No, but he's not alone!!
He's the least of our worries really....
Yet if he went back to the VFL he'd probably look a million dollars and dominate.
Maybe he needs to do that just as a lesson that he's not above that...but I don't think we'd be much the wiser as to his ability (we know he has the skills) and I don't think he'd learn a lot from the experience developmentally.
It's a difficult one.
Yep, SPS is a quandary. He does hang back for the easier one, but if he gets it he generally hurts the opposition with his possessions... just gotta get him to engage more to get the aggott in his hands more.
Dropping him will do nada....he still gives a lot more than Polson, Mullet, SOJ etc e tc etc.
For sure, he often appears to cruise but those good enough always looks to have heaps of time. Is he working hard enough defensively? No, but he's not alone!!
He's the least of our worries really....
I think that the main problem with Samo is that supporters expect him to be playing like a bloke with 50-100 games experience. In most other teams he would be playing alongside more seasoned players who would take some of the heat off.
Samo’s best is brilliant, his worst is pretty typical of a second year player in the bottom team
Unfortunately while we have players of the quality of Graham, Lamb, Mullet, Polson, Garlett and even Jack regularly getting games SPS can't be dropped ahead of them.
Yes he picks and chooses but he is one of our young players with genuine class and clean disposal - lets face it we don't exactly have those sorts in spades. Until we have suitable AFL standard replacements for selection SPS will continue to get away with his lack of two way hard running.
Fact is our bottom six players is our greatest concern by a long way. We carry too many low to non contributors on a weekly basis and dropping a decent footballer for another player not up to it will just increase that problem making winning almost impossible.
Don't agree, letting SPS get whipped for too long just builds a hatred and mindset that the club cannot fix.
Normal is not normal, Fisher is the prime example, SPS and others do not even have to look outside the club for an example of what you can be and achieve! This idea of coasting when the things you normally do aren't working is bullsh1t, there is always something you can do even if it means a team-mate benefits more than you or that is causes you some pain. I wish Casboult would take note of that fact!
You should never reward the creation of rubbish, this isn't primary school, we don't all get a gold star for participation!
I think it really depends what your values are, and how you assess or judge that, effectively what are our non negotiable's.
I believe that is the difference between clubs like the Swans and us. We accept players that pick and choose when they go, as we have a poor list together with a large number of injuries. So as others have said, how can you drop SPS when Mullet and O'Shea are getting games?
I think it really depends what your values are, and how you assess or judge that, effectively what are our non negotiable's.
I believe that is the difference between clubs like the Swans and us. We accept players that pick and choose when they go, as we have a poor list together with a large number of injuries. So as others have said, how can you drop SPS when Mullet and O'Shea are getting games?
Exactly.
If its good enough to drop Weitering then its good enough to drop SPS IMO.....or Dow, OBrien, etc etc...you have to have standards not excuses......
SPS reminds me of Yarran.......super talented but needs a mentor who can keep his mind on the job, Yarran had to go back to the twos and SPS should be no different...
So as others have said, how can you drop SPS when Mullet and O'Shea are getting games?
O'Shea didn't play last week! :o
Mullett should be dropped too!
No club should tolerate multiple piss poor efforts, players have bad quarters and bad games, but string 2 or 3 poor games together in a row and it's Sayonara Sunshine!
You must make sure the required standards are meet, and that the efforts of players performing in the magoos get rewarded, otherwise you are flushing the fabric of the club down the gurgler!
Every time one of our kids get repeat games after some consecutive sh1t efforts it sends a message(the wrong message) to the whole playing group, not just the player himself!
If its good enough to drop Weitering then its good enough to drop SPS IMO.....or Dow, OBrien, etc etc...you have to have standards not excuses......
SPS reminds me of Yarran.......super talented but needs a mentor who can keep his mind on the job, Yarran had to go back to the twos and SPS should be no different...
I couldn't agree more.
We have all these supporters who want success, but they don't think player X should ever be dropped because he is "Highly skilled".
We have been down this path for 2 decades and the results are plain to see.
O Shea doesn't pick and choose. He goes pretty hard, he's just limited.
Doesn't belong in the same conversation as mullett.
I couldn't agree more.
We have all these supporters who want success, but they don't think player X should ever be dropped because he is "Highly skilled".
We have been down this path for 2 decades and the results are plain to see.
I doubt anyone disagrees but there are simply too many to drop if that is the sole criterium?
SPS may be soft or whatever presently but he still does some bloody good things - the same can't be said of the Polsons, O'Shea's (when he's picked ;) ), Mullets etc
O Shea doesn't pick and choose. He goes pretty hard, he's just limited.
Doesn't belong in the same conversation as mullett.
Agree....OShea will get you to first base as he does compete, he then usually gives it back by foot either by poor execution or poor decision making....
Mullet on the other hand just fails to compete and tries to look remote from the play so he isnt accountable....if he is forced to compete its usually because there is no other option...
I doubt anyone disagrees but there are simply too many to drop if that is the sole criterium?
SPS may be soft or whatever presently but he still does some bloody good things - the same can't be said of the Polsons, O'Shea's (when he's picked ;) ), Mullets etc
SPS is capable like Yarran was, he can compete and isnt soft he just chooses when to go and when to stay at home......had 7 tackles on the weekend but probably had 7 times where he couldnt be bothered making much effort. Polson and Oshea compete....Mullet does only when its obvious he has to...
Well that's the conundrum isn't it EB, pick the never gonna bes like O'Shea and Polson or play the guys with 'it' who just need the right mentoring....
Noting SPS is still a kid...(as is Polson granted).
Well that's the conundrum isn't it EB, pick the never gonna bes like O'Shea and Polson or play the guys with 'it' who just need the right mentoring....
Noting SPS is still a kid...(as is Polson granted).
Fly...Yarran could run around in the 2's with one leg and still get 20 possies, SPS would be the same....he needs the right mentoring as you say to keep him tuned in
and hungry.
I remember Shaun Burgoyne being a talented but inconsistent flakey player at Port but chuck him in the Hawks system and they teach you how to focus and
compete like the result depends on you. SPS could be as good as Burgoyne if we can get the right program/development happening at the club.....we still seem to have that development issue that has plagued us for a decade or two, we can get raw talent but harnessing/optimising that talent is the hard bit unless players are really self driven like Cripps...or a Kade Simpson of course...
Fly...Yarran could run around in the 2's with one leg and still get 20 possies, SPS would be the same....he needs the right mentoring as you say to keep him tuned in
and hungry.
I remember Shaun Burgoyne being a talented but inconsistent flakey player at Port but chuck him in the Hawks system and they teach you how to focus and
compete like the result depends on you. SPS could be as good as Burgoyne if we can get the right program/development happening at the club.....we still seem to have that development issue that has plagued us for a decade or two, we can get raw talent but harnessing/optimising that talent is the hard bit unless players are really self driven like Cripps...or a Kade Simpson of course...
Yep, well said...