Carlton Supporters Club

I noticed right from the start of the game the Bears were out to hurt us. They were tackling with intent to hurt and when they won the free kick they certainly told us.
When teams do this physical stuff yeah we might do a bit of push and shove back but it creates perceived pressure and the players panic because they don't want to be tackled harshly and hurt.
We are a NICE team, we have no MONGREL, no one tackles to hurt someone.
You look back to when we were successful, we had all this, Whorethorn played unsocialable, Richmond were dirty.
I'm not saying we go out there and play with high elbows but play angry, play to win, no prisoners. I'm over this nice guy stuff.

Still can't work out the umpiring, they got so many HTB yet we got hardly any. Is it the way we tackle?
Why didn't Harry get a free kick for the whack he copped to the eye. 4 Umpires? WTF were they looking at?
Harry is always being held. Cripps is always being held at stoppages. I thought the 4 ump system was brought in to have extra eyes around contests not divide the ground up into qtrs instead of thirds With each ump sticking to his lane.

The Match committee should be sacked today! Not tomorrow! How many games do we lose and then mention the MC?
We are charlatans, but I thought we did very well last night with a half a playing list made up of VFL standard players.

Tonyo I think our dare and run was there, we just kept giving it to blokes in Brisbane jumpers. Even the commentators said it one point, I think it was a Weiters grubber kick to a running Doc maybe? The idea was there, the kick was poor which resulted in a slight fumble then Brisbane player pouncing to apply pressure and the TO and it went straight back for a goal. Thats demoralising. I just expect better from players of that that experience.

Confidence maybe???

Couldn't sit through Voss' post match press conference. It was same old same old. In management speak people work towards their targets and KPI's. Voss spoke about contested football, clearances, tackles, how hard they're training, working hard and how the boys kept trying. I use to teach this sort of stuff and I always said there are inputs, outputs and through puts but it is outcomes that are the most important. In other words you need to look at the results and not the process. In football the only outcome is the score board. One of the problem at Carlton is that they have the wrong KPI's. We are focusing on contested football, tackling, hard running and playing your role and maybe we should be look at things like decision making with a ratio of good and bad, disposals under pressure with a ratio between good and bad, disposal not under pressure and a ratio between good and bad, selfless acts and risk taking etc. The players would the players would change their mindset and start working towards the new targets because that is how they would get a game. In other words I think we are measuring and rewarding the wrong things. It would also mean the coaches would be coaching different things. If you are not going to change what you are doing then you can't expect the outcome to change. Just a thought.
In the last quarter, Pittonet monstered McInerney, Kennedy ran riot, players attacked the ball, took risks and we actually looked like a finals team. Still made the same mistakes and bloopers we had made earlier, but because we were having a go Brisbane started making mistakes, panicking and became rattled. Why don't we play like we played in the last quarter all the time. Where is our intent. Where is the willingness by players to take a chance and have a go. In the last quarter Kennedy grabbed the ball and kicked the goal. Why don't we just do that all the time. We are clearly incapable of playing perfect football with crisp disposal, why don't we just get the ball forward and play the game on our terms in a contested manner physical manner. we should probably be taking the Kennedy Commandos approach to our football rather than the clinical slick ball movement of the Clarkson era.
I am really sick of it.

@LP...Newman is a goose, it was a cheap shot and he got caught.
He let the team down and should know better as one of the teams senior players.

Did you see the other angle?

It seems to show Newman stupidly retaliating, but making initial contact with the chest first and Neale flops at the knees to make contact with Newman's forearm as he drops.

I've got no problems with players being penalised for genuine contact, I have a big issue with players being done over by a flop.

In any case, how does the Newman / Neale event explain the McKay eye-opener in the context of the weekends other penalties?

That was a nasty cut near Harry's eye and deserved more attention from the officials, it was called a stray head clash in the media report I read but it looked different from memory.

Newman shouldnt be making off the ball contact with Neale anyway imo especially within range of goal and especially  not in front of the umpire. It was clear it was contact to the Jaw and Im sure Neale milked it but it was the stupidity that annoyed me more than anything.
That was a nasty cut near Harry's eye and deserved more attention from the officials, it was called a stray head clash in the media report I read but it looked different from memory.

FFS, it looked to me like the point of the shoulder.

How do you accidentally hit a 205cm bloke in the head with the point of your shoulder, it's like Cripps continually getting his head ripped off by midgets and not getting a free kick?

The contradiction will be this week, touch Bont above the shoulders and he'll get an instant free kick, he'll probably even kick a goal or two because of it!