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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
wait, wait, wait … just watched the Sunday Footy Show highlighting how they blocked Cripps at every centre bounce.

 I mean, COME ON. If that sort of treatment doesn’t warrant a rule change I don’t know what does.

So the ball is NOT in play, there’s NO actual contest yet, in some instances the location was more than 10 metres away from where the ball was about to be bounced, and the opposing player did NOT have eyes for the ball.

So if you take your eyes off the ball and look at your opponent for a split second in a marking contest it’s a free every single time.

Also an instant free for “blocking” if the player’s path to a marking contest is impeded.

Why is that treated differently?

Of course, nothing new here - has been happening for years, and not just to Cripps.  McCrae is portrayed as the good guy but I think this belies his Sheedy- or Clarkson-like approach to pushing things to the limit. He was even astute enough to make Pendlebury the blocker knowing he’s an ump favourite who has the footballing IQ to disguise the blocks.

Which brings me to Pendelbury’s last centre clearance - did he or did he not head straight for the boundary line?
Great observation from one commentator that doing that is win/win. If the ump pings him for “insufficient intent” it gives them time to set up behind the ball. If the ump is too gutless to make the call it’s a throw in just far enough away from goal.


This craps me to tears most weeks (Steele from the 'aints is another who just turns and faces crippa at every bounce)

Was going to make the Pendles point, until i saw you beat me to it.  They rarely call the hold, but they were definitely not going to ping Pendles.   Ive made this point before, but Mccrae (and as you have pointed out Clarko), come from the same school of - hold him off the ball 100 times and you get pinged twice (or never, as was the case Fri night) - well it is worth it

Needs to be looked at.  Crippa cant even scratch his nose, as he is being held that close, before the ump even thinks about bouncing the ball
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 7 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Geelong
What stood out for me was Cripps jumper being pulled at most stoppages, he got a few and they missed a few more.

i reckon a lot of teams roll the dice with this.  hold the playmaker at every opportuinity - they arent going to call it every time.  so, you hold him at 100 stopages, and they pay 2 free kicks.  pretty good result
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 3 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs North Melbourne
Agreed Thry.....if we're serious and on, we should win easily. We still need to learn how to really bury sides when we have the advantage and % could be critical come the pointy end of the season.

Would love to be sitting here on Saturday, watching the other 17 fanbases whinge about Charlie only kicking 10 against the bottom sides, again
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The Zuton factor - Pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure pressure
I think that this comment from Matt Cottrell is relevant:

"People don't come to the footy to watch a half-forward run his patterns. They come for Charlie Curnow, not a high half-forward whose job it is to connect with the winger. But it's a good role, it suits my game and the way I play.

I can get up and support the backs, then hopefully challenge my opponent going back to goal. But, to give credit to the club, they really value it. Internally, it's highly valued. It gives me a bit of motivation to keep doing it."

Supporters naturally pay more attention to the big name players and spectacular individual efforts (or errors).  The work done by lesser lights like Cottrell, Hollands, Cuningham, Fogarty, Owies, Fantasia and Boyd is often overlooked.

I think I mentioned in the post-match post, that i didnt see Cunners out there v Tigs, but then he appeared in the top few in the player rating stats.   i reckon this would be due to  a) the above - he is doing so much that doesnt show up on the kicks/marks/handballs sheet  and  b) he did a lot of his good work in close, and hard to see from the grandstand

i saw someone mention on twitter that we have some ridiculous win/loss record, of late, with Cunners and Fog in the team - yet, they arent cyril rioli, so everyone assumes they are on the cusp of being dropped
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 0 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane
No weeters, no Walsh, no Martin, no Motlop, no marchy, doc off at half time. And up against everyyyyyything; momentum, crowd, umpires….
WOW
Zac unbelievable after so long out
Backline stuck to it - saad awesome, McGovern important, Newman always solid
Crippa’s 3rd quarter as good as it gets
Carrol great
H and Charlie swamped by a very good backline but still kicked 7
No real passengers after a time (maybe fantasia the only one.   Ollie and Kennedy weren’t great, but they did enough little things to be given a pass)
Still not sure where that came from!,
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
While Smith did OK getting a start, before we crumbled, I remain convinced that Smith as opener does more for Smith's own career than it does for Australian cricket.

He is basically extending his own career at the expense of developing the next pair of openers. We've let these blokes go on too long, they won't go because they earn too much money, they have to be pushed!

i reckon its down to there not being a perfect alternative -  bancroft hasnt looked the goods for aus, and for his great overall fc record, does make a lot of low scores;   they want renshaw, but he just cant string scores together for qld;  harris is p00.  

 the smoky may be madinson - like for like for warner (left hand, quick scorer), if he can keep is recent run going since returning from injury
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Green is a good mate of Nathan Lyon and might as well be a NSW player given he hardly every plays for WA. He lost his place to fellow WA allrounder in Mitch Marsh and should have been dropped out of the squad because his form isnt that great.
His only decent test innings was on the flattest track of all time in India where both teams made big scores, his record isnt as good as Shane Watson who averaged more with the bat and had a lower bowling average and also had a greater degree of difficulty having to open the innings on many occasions.
Renshaw is averaging 31 in Shield cricket this season...if we are talking batsman in form and who can roll their arm over you would be picking Beau Webster who is averaging 71 or Nathan McSweeney with 45.
The selection process is skewed to who the inner sanctum want in the team and has nothing to do with form or stats it seems...

Green's record in Shield cricket is pretty good, when he plays.  If you are looking for the next best batsman, from the Shield, based on records, then it is either Bancroft or Green
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
GTC...Its a bit of WA vs Cricket Australia at the moment, in the old days form and runs in Shield cricket got you selected but now its about who the inner sanctum want in the team as much as anything else and its clear that Bancroft isnt wanted even though he has been the leading run getter for the last two seasons.
Smith will probably make it look a good move vs the hapless Windies who are struggling vs some no name team in their tour game and Bailey will get the kudos but long term its not a good move and we should be introducing younger players for the future.

This WA against the rest stuff is pretty funny, when you see Bancroft was overlooked for Cam Green (WA)!!!   

I know they are upset that Renshaw is in the 13, but really he is a concussion sub, and prob seen as a better replacement for anyone in the top 6 - do you really get this upset over someone being picked as a drinks carrier over someone from your state