At SEN website (http://www.sen.com.au/display-article/Walls-hits-out-at-Blues/60307)
Well as usual Walls doesn't leave much to the imagination!
Yep he kicked truly with that one. He is right about our improvement defensively and of course we were all told we were a potential top 4 team. Simply not the case.
Agree totally with what he says on this. We have had no improvement at the "club" not just team.
Walls is getting very senile and needs to stop embarrassing himself.
Walls is getting very senile and needs to stop embarrassing himself.
I thought the points he made were fairly reasonable. It is obvious from his tone on how he regards the sacking of Ratten and when you consider where we are it doesn't look good. Yes Mick Malthouse was going to have to change the way we play but I think the expectation was we were better than we actually are.
I guess a month is a long time in football
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-fans-can-dare-to-dream-of-a-flag-20130606-2nsii.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-fans-can-dare-to-dream-of-a-flag-20130606-2nsii.html)
Carlton has flown under the radar but the top four – and even a flag – is now possible
I guess a month is a long time in football
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-fans-can-dare-to-dream-of-a-flag-20130606-2nsii.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/blues-fans-can-dare-to-dream-of-a-flag-20130606-2nsii.html)
Carlton has flown under the radar but the top four – and even a flag – is now possible
LOL yes it is a long time. Who know maybe in another month we'll all look back and laugh.....hopefully not hysterically whilst rocking back and forth and muttering to ourselves "it's all OK, it's all OK, it's all OK".
Exactly Shakin.
Who could forget his articles on Fev?
One week Fev should be traded. Next week he should be captain. Next week he should have been traded years ago.
When Robert Walls speaks, at the time you find yourself agreeing with his comments thinking he is saying exactly what we are thinking.
The problem though as Shakin' has clearly pointed out, he flips & flops backwards, forwards & sideways depending on his feng shui reading, the latin horoscope or which phase the moon is in. There really is no consistency at all in his comments which is not only disturbing but equally destroys his credibility overall (and that is coming from Mr. Inconsistent himself).
I'd really like Rob Walls, when it comes to Carlton, the club he obviously still loves dearly & passionately, to say what he genuinely thinks and is in the best interests of the club overall, not what will sell a newspaper or get viewers to the TV screen.
He can change his views as often as he changes his undies for all I care when it comes to the other clubs, just be honest & forthright when speaking about the Carlton Football Club.
When Robert Walls speaks, at the time you find yourself agreeing with his comments thinking he is saying exactly what we are thinking.
The problem though as Shakin' has clearly pointed out, he flips & flops backwards, forwards & sideways depending on his feng shui reading, the latin horoscope or which phase the moon is in. There really is no consistency at all in his comments which is not only disturbing but equally destroys his credibility overall (and that is coming from Mr. Inconsistent himself).
I'd really like Rob Walls, when it comes to Carlton, the club he obviously still loves dearly & passionately, to say what he genuinely thinks and is in the best interests of the club overall, not what will sell a newspaper or get viewers to the TV screen.
He can change his views as often as he changes his undies for all I care when it comes to the other clubs, just be honest & forthright when speaking about the Carlton Football Club.
I think it depends on the perspective you chose.
He seems reasonably consistent to me;
- He has always claimed our list loaded with 1st round draft picks has the talent to challenge but has failed to make the most of it. He is not alone in this assessment and just this week we see a number of journalists asking what went wrong.
- He has always questioned the replacement of Brett Ratten based on last seasons injury situation.
- He has never been a MM booster.
- He is correct about the points against.
- I thought his focus about a lack of improvement was more based on the coaching, MC and tactics rather than the players or the list. When he focuses on players he generally names them!
I think when Wallsy now speaks about Carlton he is speaking as a supporter, rather than a hard headed footy analyst. That's why you end up with an article a couple of weeks ago that mentioned the "F" word.
He is on the same wild emotional roller coaster we all are.
I don't quite get the "should have kept Ratten" argument. I think you could argue we would be no better off, and Ratts would be in the process of getting the arse right now.
At the time, i would have given Ratten the final year of his contract. You know what, i've gotten over it and moved on. Just like i did when Wallsy was sacked.
Walls is getting very senile and needs to stop embarrassing himself.
You or him? A lot of people are starting to see the light MBB, you just seem to dismiss everyone with one liners and not much else. I agree with everything he said, we haven't improved defensively and we ditched Ratts because we thought we could challenge for the big one. Our new coach seems to be doing no better. He is entitled to his opinion and its far from embarrasissing, he just telling it like it is.
With regards to his articles on Fev, who could forget the fact that you said we'd improved, would beat Collingwood by 8 goals, and once we got smashed turned around and said we had to go backwards to go forwards? Lol that's about as big of a turnaround as I've seen. Surely if you thought we'd win by 8 goals we've underachieved when losing by 6? Alas your man can do no wrong. The goal posts move every week with you.
Yes I picked us to win and we lost, even the best tipsters get it wrong some time.
I've said since before Malthouse was officially appointed we would have to go backwards to go forwards just like Parkin did in 1991.
When Robert Walls speaks, at the time you find yourself agreeing with his comments thinking he is saying exactly what we are thinking.
The problem though as Shakin' has clearly pointed out, he flips & flops backwards, forwards & sideways depending on his feng shui reading, the latin horoscope or which phase the moon is in. There really is no consistency at all in his comments which is not only disturbing but equally destroys his credibility overall (and that is coming from Mr. Inconsistent himself).
I'd really like Rob Walls, when it comes to Carlton, the club he obviously still loves dearly & passionately, to say what he genuinely thinks and is in the best interests of the club overall, not what will sell a newspaper or get viewers to the TV screen.
He can change his views as often as he changes his undies for all I care when it comes to the other clubs, just be honest & forthright when speaking about the Carlton Football Club.
I think it depends on the perspective you chose.
He seems reasonably consistent to me;
- He has always claimed our list loaded with 1st round draft picks has the talent to challenge but has failed to make the most of it. He is not alone in this assessment and just this week we see a number of journalists asking what went wrong.
- He has always questioned the replacement of Brett Ratten based on last seasons injury situation.
- He has never been a MM booster.
- He is correct about the points against.
- I thought his focus about a lack of improvement was more based on the coaching, MC and tactics rather than the players or the list. When he focuses on players he generally names them!
Lack of player development, 1 of the biggest issues at the club IMO.
Lack of player development, 1 of the biggest issues at the club IMO.
100% agree. This is where the revolution at Carlton needs to happen or it just goes around again.
Robert "Captain Hindsight" Walls.
It's quite obvious something went wrong after the collingwood game. First time this season we've been humilliated. Questions were always going to be asked after a loss like that. We don't need Wallsy chipping in and saying we've potentially done the wrong thing now.
Make the big calls BEFORE it happens Wallsy.
Robert "Captain Hindsight" Walls.
It's quite obvious something went wrong after the collingwood game. First time this season we've been humilliated. Questions were always going to be asked after a loss like that. We don't need Wallsy chipping in and saying we've potentially done the wrong thing now.
Make the big calls BEFORE it happens Wallsy.
I am waiting for his article on our poor record of player development - can't be far away. We'll be running for cover then and he'd be right.
As pointed out Rob Walls does change his mind every week and seems to be taking a very short term view of MM's work.
Its unrealistic to think Malthouse can turn our onfield fortunes around in his first season with a list that needs plenty of work and he needs the opportunity to develop players, shape the list and fill in the gaps...we would have stalled and gone backwards under Ratten as well or Paul Roos.
Looking at our fixtures and win/loss record, does anyone really think we could've done any worse this year? I don't think you can say it would've been the same for any other coach, we have under acheived enormously.
Its unrealistic to think Malthouse can turn our onfield fortunes around in his first season with a list that needs plenty of work and he needs the opportunity to develop players, shape the list and fill in the gaps...we would have stalled and gone backwards under Ratten as well or Paul Roos.
Yes that's what concerns me and I think you're right. Clearly the club thought we were better than we really were. I said in another thread the revolution needs to happen in development at Carlton if we're going to make a difference long term.
Mick is COOKED.
The only good thing about this is the board can be chased out of Visy park.
We would have been better off handing the keys to the AFL 10 years ago.
COOKED!!
We would have been better off handing the keys to the AFL 10 years ago.
COOKED!!
Can't agree with you there - fudge the AFL. Maybe Mike Fitzpatrick can make a return.
We would have been better off handing the keys to the AFL 10 years ago.
COOKED!!
Can't agree with you there - fudge the AFL. Maybe Mike Fitzpatrick can make a return.
No chance.
Nobody with an ounce of sense will come within 500 miles of this crapful run club while it's got those piles of human excrement masquerading as board members.
No chance.
Nobody with an ounce of sense will come within 500 miles of this crapful run club while it's got those piles of human excrement masquerading as board members.
Which one's specifically - you don't like Stick we know but who else and why?
Contrary to popular belief, I don't see Sticks as the problem. I'm not so sure he's the easy fix man. Surely the board members with money that are used to buying whatever they want would be the issue here? Not that I would even know who they are.
No chance.
Nobody with an ounce of sense will come within 500 miles of this crapful run club while it's got those piles of human excrement masquerading as board members.
Which one's specifically - you don't like Stick we know but who else and why?
I don't mind Sticks and was happy for him to be Pres this year, now he's staying another. He's there to take heat for the Pratts until they can find a suitable candidate.
Why, so he gets to drink Crownies at AFL functions?
Fck Sticks and fck the Pratts. They've run this club off a bumpy road and into a ditch.
Contrary to popular belief, I don't see Sticks as the problem. I'm not so sure he's the easy fix man. Surely the board members with money that are used to buying whatever they want would be the issue here? Not that I would even know who they are.
Like you I don't know the board personally and I can only go on what I read and hear about on the grapevine. I have meet Sticks a couple of times and he's a genuine passionate supporter of the club but he certainly doesn't go to war publicly the same way Eddie does at the Pies. I don't see anyone with profile to lead the club at the moment.
Looking at our fixtures and win/loss record, does anyone really think we could've done any worse this year? I don't think you can say it would've been the same for any other coach, we have under acheived enormously.
I had the past 4 weeks marked down as losses 2 months ago, I did change my mind last week and picked us to beat the pies but that was more to do with how awful they were against Port.
Be interested to hear Mark Maclure's take on this. Been quiet of late. Is the BlueView thing running this year?
Be interested to hear Mark Maclure's take on this. Been quiet of late. Is the BlueView thing running this year?
Considering he was agitating for Ratten's removal I hope he's as even handed with the super doooooper coach.
Be interested to hear Mark Maclure's take on this. Been quiet of late. Is the BlueView thing running this year?
Considering he was agitating for Ratten's removal I hope he's as even handed with the super doooooper coach.
So where's he gone? It's been rather quiet.
Be interested to hear Mark Maclure's take on this. Been quiet of late. Is the BlueView thing running this year?
Considering he was agitating for Ratten's removal I hope he's as even handed with the super doooooper coach.
So where's he gone? It's been rather quiet.
He was overseas and only just came back. Hi did an episode of the BluePrint and AFL 360 last week. He'll be on AFL 260 on Wednesday (i think) and Robbo and Gerrard will grill him. I will be watching.
Be interested to hear Mark Maclure's take on this. Been quiet of late. Is the BlueView thing running this year?
Considering he was agitating for Ratten's removal I hope he's as even handed with the super doooooper coach.
So where's he gone? It's been rather quiet.
He was overseas and only just came back. Hi did an episode of the BluePrint and AFL 360 last week. He'll be on AFL 260 on Wednesday (i think) and Robbo and Gerrard will grill him. I will be watching.
So are you going to call in and ask questions?
Comparing Ratten to Mick will never work. We will never know how far Ratten could take his players, and haven't seen what Mick can do in half a season. Most of what Walls is saying makes sense, but most of it is also emotional, because he feels Ratten wasn't given a chance. He would say the Same if he grabbed Paul Roos and were in the exact same position now.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/song-remains-the-same-in-blues-backyard-20130708-2pmdg.html (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/song-remains-the-same-in-blues-backyard-20130708-2pmdg.html)
Wallsy has ceased being a media commentator and is now a mere fellow supporter like us.
I love it. a couple of weeks ago he was a nut job senile old man, now that a few people agree with him he is the psion and only speaks the truth. I love Wallsy, but really, as someone said previously, when it comes to Carlton he speaks as a supporter, not an objective analyst, I think that's why I like him.
Regardless of anything, his opinion still has merit. I liken his opinion to CIMMs, was trying to be positive and support the new coach ( which there's nothing wrong with ) but he's now had enoughand can see all of a sudden calling for a rebuild is absolute bollocks.
I love it. a couple of weeks ago he was a nut job senile old man, now that a few people agree with him he is the psion and only speaks the truth. I love Wallsy, but really, as someone said previously, when it comes to Carlton he speaks as a supporter, not an objective analyst, I think that's why I like him.
Well I look forward to the responses to Matheisons comments about the recruiting. Last year he said it was the coach and the players weren't the problem ???
Well I look forward to the responses to Matheisons comments about the recruiting. Last year he said it was the coach and the players weren't the problem ???
It's not the recruiting. Sure we forked a couple up but it's been 10 years!
Like I said in another thread - from Adam Hartlett to Patrick McCarthy - what's going on?
At least we're consistent :o
Not to sure on Walls take here. A few weeks ago he was praising our list and now after one loss he lays the boots in. Yes. I think we have some problems and these were highlighted after Friday Nights loss.
But I am not to sure how bad it is.
Clearly we lack leadership on field and this is quite evident and sticks out like dogs balls.
Clearly we have to many of the same type of player.
Maybe a shake up of the list is required, and by all accounts this seems likely. I just hope that it is not all downhill from here.
Clearly we lack leadership on field and this is quite evident and sticks out like dogs balls.
Clearly we have to many of the same type of player.
Maybe a shake up of the list is required, and by all accounts this seems likely. I just hope that it is not all downhill from here.
I think we have leadership OK, but we have too many followers(introverts). MM said as much when he first arrived at the club and started talking to players. I think he said he could not believe how reserved and timid some of the players were about their future and the clubs prospects.