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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting 2024 AFL Rd 8 Carlton vs Collingwood
5 Weitering
4 McKay
3 Owies
2 De Koning
1 Pittonet
Apologies Walsh
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There are plenty of small problemFor a bloke who is meant to be an aerobic beast, he doesn't get on his bike much in an attempt to run his opponent ragged (or lay a tackle heaven forebid).
Charlie Curnows contested posession rate is over 60% for a key forward it needs to be under 50%. So he is working way too hard to win his posessions... thats down to various things - not giving him space to lead into and contesting ground balls which is not his job but has to go for them as small forwards are no where near it.
Lack of run and covering the ground. Filth always had 2-3 players tackling one Blue we did not reciprocate because we didnt have the team composition to cover the ground.
Out coached is interesting. I cant really take it when you lose by a goal and the scores were level with 2 minutes left.Ok Ill call a spade a spade and shoot Bambi, Walsh either fell asleep or had the wrong mindset at that stoppage. With the scores level and close to their goal, a defensive mindset had to be first and foremost. We let that happen too many times on the night, the last one was costly.
Do you get outcoached in that circumstance? Pues had extra rest too after anzac day. The second quarter was our worst and where we let the game slip but our handballs and errant kicking had more to do with it than being out coached.
Irrespective of what we say we played last seasons premiers who have started hitting their stride recently. It had danger game written all ober it from the get go.
The persistent problem we have, and which seems to have no solution, is that too many of our good senior players are physically fragile and are unavailable for selection for long periods of time, making it impossible to have a cohesive unit.Spot on Macca, as soon as we get some back, they drop like flies again, and by that I mean the usual suspects.
On the rare occasions when most of them do play on the same day we are given a glimpse of what is possible. Then the injuries start again.
Unfortunately it is possible that where we are now on the ladder is as good as it gets with this list.
I think Voss might have been eating a bit of humble pie, we went into that game with a perceived advantage that the Filth turned into a weakness.I didn't get from his presser, quite the contrary.
Out coached?
We badly miss Docherty. He is a steadying influence and he does the clutch things that win and save games.Charlie seems very clumsy at the moment, he is horribly out of form. His touch seems to have abandoned him. He used to turn blokes inside out at will. Still, hard to pot superstars when you have so many non contributors.
We miss Jack Silvagni, because he can do all sorts of the jobs.
Our 3 tall forwards are not the problem in themselves, although I was bitterly disappointed in Charlie tonight. He doesn't work hard enough when he doesn't have the ball. It was really obvious. And when he could have stood up, he was beaten in one on ones and the ball left our forward line too easily. The problem with our forward setup is that our smalls are not keeping the ball in and they're not being dangerous.
H played a great game, but his last kick into the forward line probably lost us the game. Had he been able to get his kick to advantage of one of our players, we would have won the game than and there. Instead, he turned it over and the ball went up the other end. Hell, if he'd bombed it and he scored a point, it might have been enough. But just giving it away was lethal.
One of the things that was really obvious was our lack of leg speed.
Another was that we didn't tag Nick Daicos. Smother Daicos and they lose that midfield drive.
Team for tomorrow looks better than it has for a while, but it is still short of class:Young just seems plain timid and frightened to go near the ball (ie scared or knows he'll make a blue). There was one passage of play where he flat out looked at the ball and didn't pick it up thinking another Carlton player would (might have been Cottrell maybe?). He was clearly closer to the footy and should have attacked it and ran off with it, instead, he filled his shorts.
B: Lachie Young Sam Durdin Harry Lemmey
HB: Billy Wilson Dom Akuei Brodie Kemp
C: Ollie Hollands Jaxon Binns Tom Phillips
HF: Ned Cahill Rob Monahan Ashton Moir
F: Liam McMahon Luke Nelson Alex Mirkov
R: Hudson O'Keefe Jack Carroll Zavier Maher
Int: Darcy Hogg Wil White Michael Lewis B Lambert Heath Ramshaw
Em: Archie Stevens Kristian Ferranato Jess Gedi Hayden Gill C Verrel L Prout Blake Kuipers Jack Lefroy
Alex Mirkov has really struggled since his return and is obviously a long way off the pace at the moment. On the other hand, he needs time on ground to get some form and fitness back.
Dom Akuei looks a long way off the pace. he has gone backwards and won't be on the list next year. Spots will be wanted, and he doesn't have the intensity to make it.
I'd be tempted to play Durdin next week for Young, if he gets through this game. he knows how to use his body, which Young doesn't.
Kemp also has a chance to impress: there is a spot there if he does the right thing.
I like what I see from Rob Monahan, but he is a long way off at the moment, especially in the key forward spot. He does have the pace and the intensity to make it.
re: Williams......a nervous player when played down back and and when you add Young plus two inexperienced defenders in Cowan and Cincotta it puts a lot of pressure on Weitering to be the glue thats holds the backline together.He doesn't have the engine or the brute strength to play the modern wingers role (ie Acres and Cottrell).
I think Williams has to play on the weakest small forward and never on the last line close to goal and my preference if he has to play is on the wing where he use his skillset to carry the ball and deliver and be removed from having to mind a man.
I cant see him in the team when we have our full crew back and ditto for Fantasia and Durdin.
Well he can't defend and should not be in our backline.Been tried in the midfield and that was a disaster.
Well we should give a 3rd pick + Williams + 30% of salary to whoever wants to take him.Ill second that, problem is no one will take him.
Enough is enough.
He was well beaten tonight.Really? I didn't think so.
Pies played the big moments well, leading tackle makers were Pendlebury, Nick Daicos and Crisp which would surprise a few people but probably showed even their showboat players like Daicos worked a bit harder than we thought they would.I though Cincotta did very well on Hill. Of the Ins, I thought he gave us something, they rest were witches hats.
Both teams had a lot of non contributors but I felt some of ours did nothing at all unlike a few of their quiet stars who at least competed. Backline worries me when Weitering is out of the play and we are relying on the likes of Williams, Young, Cowan and Cincotta. Need Saad and McGovern back to provide stability and Kemp is a better player than all four I mentioned and dropping him was dumb imho. Not the end of the world and when we get our main troops back including Martin and Motlop we will be ok.
Fantasia and Durdin might not as well have been playing as their contributions were zero.....
That last goal looked like a set play gone wrong. Pitto was arguing with someone after it. Again - system broke down under pressure.Walsh just didn't honour Daicos, the Fox blokes were all over it.
Durdin, Fantasia, Pitto - not up to it.Pitto not up to it? FMD dunno what games youre watching.