Yet another game I won't be seeing live. Hopefully the game is on TV.
Even though Kreuzer will be better for the run, I hope we play a 2nd ruckman. Hawthorn probably will, in an effort to run our ruck into the ground. Hawthorn won the practice match because they played all 3 of their ruck options against Casboult and de Koning. It gave them a huge edge in the middle of the ground. We cannot let them do that again.
The other thing they did in the Practice Match was to get the ball over the back and run the ball into goal with a loose man. It was one of only two ways they scored (the other coming from our turnovers). They didn't win a contest all night. But they didn't need to. We need to stop the turnovers and keep the ball from getting over the back.
Keep between goal and young opponent. Force them to lead forward to free space. Hawks are a well drilled side, but not the fastest by foot. I assume if we carry the ball and run in numbers, it will become a nightmare for them. Turn overs will be our main worry. It is way to easy to fall into bad habits when the bring the pressure on. Let’s pray for a decent contest.
Hawks have a few players out, lets hope the Cats work them over and we can take advantage..
This is winnable.
We'll find out at the selection table what's likely to occur.
Hawks have a few players out, lets hope the Cats work them over and we can take advantage..
We get an extra day to recover, which will help nicely given we both have to fly as well. Not much recovery time for the sore hawks
Will be interesting to see if we:
a. Replicate yesterdays performance which should become the blueprint.
b. Rest on our laurels given a Win has been chalked up.
I hope yesterday was the circuit breaker which instills the belief that they can compete and win. The last time we won 2 in a row was rnd 12/13 2017, another win will work wonders especially against Hawthorn.
I'll raise the awkward question, does Charlie come back in and if so, who makes way?
I'll raise the awkward question, does Charlie come back in and if so, who makes way?
Polson was an absolute passenger again yesterday, even his teachers pet status surely can't save him. O'Brien's stats read better but some of his efforts are comical and I think he needs to go back to VFL level once someone is ready to step up - but at the moment the VFL reports suggest no-one is pressing hard enough atm assuming Williamson needs at least one more run in the 2s.
Paddy Dow was better yesterday but still his kicking can be a worry. He seems to me a better kick at goal that in field kicking - his depth rather than accuracy seems the issue - so maybe keep him close to goal as a pressure forward? ATM he would be the next most at risk I would think, with Williamson and Cuningham (and maybe Lang if he can pull up his socks) in the wings to come back over the next few weeks.
I'll raise the awkward question, does Charlie come back in and if so, who makes way?
For me, Charlie needs to play in the twos and get some touch back. Have a look at the comparison of stats with Polson side by side on Footy Wire and you'll see there is not alot of difference between them in many areas. If the 2's are good enough for Polson, they're good enough for Charlie. First and foremost though, they need to get him right injury wise, if he needs an extended time off, so be it,
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=4&playerStatus2=A&tid2=4&type=T&pid1=4163&pid2=6382&fid1=S&fid2=S
If the club considers Charlie ready to face the Dawks then he could easily be fitted in - Poulson and O'Brien for starters! Anyway, he should be tried in a different role other than a marking forward - maybe a wing? Let him get his touch back in the 1s when he is not doing the heavy lifting in the forward line. Levi and Harry were fine there yesterday, and then add in McGovern.
The big question is can we play all of Kreuzer, Casboult, McKay, McGovern and C Curnow in the same side? Casboult was very good yesterday, and he competes better than anybody else as second ruck. McKay was obviously great yesterday, and has to play. McGovern is just going I reckon, his work rate off the ball is poor, and he has had very little impact on games. Having said that he is a classy player, and our best set shot at goal - I just wish he'd get his hands on it more. Not suggesting McGovern could get dropped, but with the way our forward line worked yesterday bringing C Curnow back in there could be disruptive. I don't think he should play NB's, he's a potential Rolls Royce, but as others have said I'd like to see him played on the wing in a Matthew Richardson type role
HAWTHORN
Player
Injury
Estimated Return
Grant Birchall Calf/knee Indefinite
Shaun Burgoyne Hamstring 2 weeks
James Cousins Ankle Test
James Frawley Hamstring 3 weeks
Darren Minchington Hamstring 1 weeks
Tom Mitchell Broken leg Indefinite
Tim Mohr Dislocated knee/ACL Season
Jaeger O'Meara Hip Test
Ryan Schoenmakers Achilles TBC
Liam Shiels Hamstring 1 weeks
Ben Stratton Concussion Test
Mathew Walker Knee 1 week
Updated: Tuesday, April 16
Early prognosis
The carnage continues at Waverley Park. There have been consistent injury setbacks since Mitchell broke his left leg in mid-January. Frawley and Stratton suffered injuries that prematurely ended their game on Sunday, while Cousins, Conor Nash and Isaac Smith were among those to push through duress. O'Meara was a late withdrawal after barely training last week and he will aim to return against Geelong on Easter Monday. Schoenmakers continues to struggle with Achilles issues, as he has for years. Birchall stepped up his running intensity and involvement last week, and fellow rehab group members Minchington and Walker are also progressing. – Marc McGowan
Let’s hope Geelong annoy the crap out of Sicily and he throws one!!
The big question is can we play all of Kreuzer, Casboult, McKay, McGovern and C Curnow in the same side? Casboult was very good yesterday, and he competes better than anybody else as second ruck. McKay was obviously great yesterday, and has to play. McGovern is just going I reckon, his work rate off the ball is poor, and he has had very little impact on games. Having said that he is a classy player, and our best set shot at goal - I just wish he'd get his hands on it more. Not suggesting McGovern could get dropped, but with the way our forward line worked yesterday bringing C Curnow back in there could be disruptive. I don't think he should play NB's, he's a potential Rolls Royce, but as others have said I'd like to see him played on the wing in a Matthew Richardson type role
Gov played large chunks as the spare man in defence, swapped with SOS IIRC. H relished not having to ruck much and simply focused on doing his thing in the fwd line. Tractor and Cas are a solid ruck/fwd duo.
Can't see why Levi cannot be second ruck, and position himself on the 50m arc. I think that is where he kicks well from, the accuracy problems seem to be highlighted when he is within 35m of goal. The closer he is the more he seems to overthink. This might work well with allowing more space for McKay or McGovern.
I reckon we can trouble the whorks. Their midfield is thin and slow and they are short in defence. If Burgoyne, OMeara and Stratton miss we wont have any excuses IMO. They're ripe for the taking.
Hawks have played 14 great qtrs out of 16, just 2 shocking last qtrs. They're still going pretty well.
Charlie in to play midfield.
Hawks have played 14 great qtrs out of 16, just 2 shocking last qtrs. They're still going pretty well.
Charlie in to play midfield.
What’s the fascination with many who want to turn Charlie into a midfielder....I just don’t get it.
His main weakness imo is his disposal efficiency and his decision making when up the ground is questionable to say the least.
He is young and trying to learn his craft at being a key match winner forward-prefer he masters want he looks to be his nature game then wasting time playing him out of position.
We have young developing mids in Walsh Fish Dow SPS. They need to be given as much midfield time as possible imo.
What’s the fascination with many who want to turn Charlie into a midfielder....I just don’t get it.
His main weakness imo is his disposal efficiency and his decision making when up the ground is questionable to say the least.
He is young and trying to learn his craft at being a key match winner forward-prefer he masters want he looks to be his nature game then wasting time playing him out of position.
We have young developing mids in Walsh Fish Dow SPS. They need to be given as much midfield time as possible imo.
It's where he played mostly as an u18. If you have a chance to strengthen it further, why not. We have depth in our forwards now so now reason he can't play on a wing. he can be a strong marking target coming out of defence. A powerful midfield wins you alot.
It's where he played mostly as an u18. If you have a chance to strengthen it further, why not. We have depth in our forwards now so now reason he can't play on a wing. he can be a strong marking target coming out of defence. A powerful midfield wins you alot.
x4. Or even the old ruck rover type - just roam far and wide!
It's where he played mostly as an u18. If you have a chance to strengthen it further, why not. We have depth in our forwards now so now reason he can't play on a wing. he can be a strong marking target coming out of defence. A powerful midfield wins you alot.
He would cost us goals with poor decisions. Good midfield groups are settled ones and one with clean ball users. Charlie is indecisive and turns it over way too much imo to risk unsettling a building midfield group who were drafted to play midfield.
Reckon opposition teams would much prefer Charlie lining up on a wing then deep forward too.
He would cost us goals with poor decisions. Good midfield groups are settled ones and one with clean ball users. Charlie is indecisive and turns it over way too much imo to risk unsettling a building midfield group who were drafted to play midfield.
Reckon opposition teams would much prefer Charlie lining up on a wing then deep forward too.
Um, what rubbish. Massive rubbish.
Just watching the first quarter of Hawthorn vs geelong and I think we might struggle next week. This is a tough competitive scrappy pressure game and if its played similarly next week, it will take a bit of class to get us across the line.
Its winnable on paper, but we need to be mindful that Hawthorn have had a few injuries which have contributed to big losses.
It's where he played mostly as an u18. If you have a chance to strengthen it further, why not. We have depth in our forwards now so now reason he can't play on a wing. he can be a strong marking target coming out of defence. A powerful midfield wins you alot.
As I said in the other thread, Charlie didn’t play in the midfield at under 18 level. He did play as a ruckman but I wouldn’t like to see him getting smashed in ruck contests.
His strengths are his marking and aerobic ability and his weaknesses are decision-making and lack of agility; not really midfielder attributes.
As I said in the other thread, Charlie didn’t play in the midfield at under 18 level. He did play as a ruckman but I wouldn’t like to see him getting smashed in ruck contests.
His strengths are his marking and aerobic ability and his weaknesses are decision-making and lack of agility; not really midfielder attributes.
I think i originally floated the idea a bit over a week ago of Charlie playing wing.
Doesn't have to have clean/quick hands playing on a wing, as opposed to in the guts, but can use his marking and aerobic ability as a link between defence and attack.
Given we've just smashed 100 points for the first time in 3 years, why would we wanna change that by (re)introducing Charlie into the fold up forward?
Watching the whorks v cats....boring as batcrap game... Both sides going with a short kick possession game. Both sides kick it 1000 times better than us, if we let them chip it around the whorks will kill us. More than a few average players running around for them, dunno what the excitement surrounding OMeara is about, kicking is crap and awareness poor.
As I said in the other thread, Charlie didn’t play in the midfield at under 18 level. He did play as a ruckman but I wouldn’t like to see him getting smashed in ruck contests.
His strengths are his marking and aerobic ability and his weaknesses are decision-making and lack of agility; not really midfielder attributes.
Bit rich on both fronts - sure he's been off this year thus far.... but to say he's a poor decision maker per se and not "agile" beggars belief....
sure he's been off this year thus far
17 possessions, 9 marks, 4 tackles and a goal all on a dodgy knee.... I think we are all very harsh on
young Charlie
Um, what rubbish. Massive rubbish.
Is it as much rubbish as your yearly pre season dribble where you talk up every single player on our list to amazingly high level to then have you backflip after we drop a few early games :-\
But yeah....my post is rubbish.... ::)
Just watching the first quarter of Hawthorn vs geelong and I think we might struggle next week. This is a tough competitive scrappy pressure game and if its played similarly next week, it will take a bit of class to get us across the line.
Its winnable on paper, but we need to be mindful that Hawthorn have had a few injuries which have contributed to big losses.
Evidently McEvoy finished for the day on the bench ?hip flexor.
As I said in the other thread, Charlie didn’t play in the midfield at under 18 level. He did play as a ruckman but I wouldn’t like to see him getting smashed in ruck contests.
His strengths are his marking and aerobic ability and his weaknesses are decision-making and lack of agility; not really midfielder attributes.
Agree. He likes to take the risky inside passes and turns it over more then he hits it. Just doesn’t have the clean foot skills yet to be using the ball in the middle of the ground where turnovers hurt and punish us.
While his form has been down this year he is still looms as being absolute gun game winning forward-playing him elsewhere is not the way to develop a kid with his skill set.
Generally agree with other comments on here - the Hawks game will be tough. Lots of injuries (Shiels, Burgoyne, Stratton, Mitchell, Frawley, Birchall, McEvoy and others) gives us our best chance. That's some serious talent and experience out of the side. What I saw tonight, they lack some polish, but are still disciplined and pretty well drilled.
Certainly not confident going in to this one.
Generally agree with other comments on here - the Hawks game will be tough. Lots of injuries (Shiels, Burgoyne, Stratton, Mitchell, Frawley, Birchall, McEvoy and others) gives us our best chance. That's some serious talent and experience out of the side. What I saw tonight, they lack some polish, but are still disciplined and pretty well drilled.
Certainly not confident going in to this one.
I thought the Hawks were very average...Cats took their foot off numerous times....
O'Meara? Meh.... Wingard...where?
Hawks are lacking in the midfield and no guns forward or back (Gunston, Breust apologies...).
Siciliy copped one from big Tom - haha. Sooked it up big time.
Our lads should feel very confident about their chances....
Blicavs is the new Fletcher..... Spoils high and late, tunnels, gets away with murder. Can't believe a smart forward hasn't really taken him to the cleaners. Always looks out of position but Stewart ET AL cover for him.
Hawks are tough but slow and lack polish but they won't roll over. They still have MacEvoy, Roughie and Breust to worry us. We need to beat them inside the contest.
I thought the Hawks were very average...Cats took their foot off numerous times....
O'Meara? Meh....
Hawks are lacking in the midfield and no guns forward or back (Gunston, Breust apologies...).
Siciliy copped one from big Tom - haha. Sooked it up big time.
Our lads should feel very confident about their chances....
I'd agree but Tassie is a happy hunting ground for them and I'd be hedging my bets till I see who they get back this week.
The Geelong Big 4 mids beat them today and they got nothing from Bruest, Gunston and Wingard, cant see them all being so poor vs us next week.
We should be competitive and confident and I would be playing Charlie Curnow as I can see the Hawks preparing for Harry a lot better than Beveridge did when he didnt play
Trengove and I'd expect Clarko to put more thought into our key players and I reckon Charlie is one more headache they dont need given they have a few players out.....
I thought the Hawks were very average...Cats took their foot off numerous times....
O'Meara? Meh....
Hawks are lacking in the midfield and no guns forward or back (Gunston, Breust apologies...).
Siciliy copped one from big Tom - haha. Sooked it up big time.
Our lads should feel very confident about their chances....
I reckon the Hawks see this as very winnable. On a ground where their W/L is very good, the 2 questions for mine are whether their extensive injury list tips the scales in our favour, and also whether their older star players have enough left in the tank to still play near their best, or whether the decline has started. I can't really tell based on what i saw tonight. They put up a good fight against the ladder leaders.
Also, Wingard can do real damage when he gets on a roll.
Evidently McEvoy finished for the day on the bench ?hip flexor.
Heard the commentary team mention ceglar will be ready to go next week so whilst big boy is a tough proposition ceglar is no slouch. I'm acutely aware that we are a kreuzer injury away from going from chocolates to boiled lollies.
Heard the commentary team mention ceglar will be ready to go next week so whilst big boy is a tough proposition ceglar is no slouch. I'm acutely aware that we are a kreuzer injury away from going from chocolates to boiled lollies.
Think Clarkson said that McEvoy will be right for next week, I'd expect Ceglar back in and maybe help out down back if we line up tall again, dont expect Clarko to be as dumb
as Beveridge who wouldnt play Trengove.
Wouldnt be surprised to see one of Sheils or Burgoyne back in too.
Think Clarkson said that McEvoy will be right for next week, I'd expect Ceglar back in and maybe help out down back if we line up tall again, dont expect Clarko to be as dumb
as Beveridge who wouldnt play Trengove.
Wouldnt be surprised to see one of Sheils or Burgoyne back in too.
Burgoyne said today he'd be back the week after next.
Besides, if we're worried about a 35yo just coming back from injury who the f... are we kidding?
Ditto Shiels. Seriously, hardly Martin or Dangerfield?
Burgoyne said today he'd be back the week after next.
Besides, if we're worried about a 35yo just coming back from injury who the f... are we kidding?
Ditto Shiels. Seriously, hardly Martin or Dangerfield?
Anyone, anytime, anywhere, anyhow.
This isn’t the strongest Hawks line up in history to hit the field. If they can be beaten it’s now. BB needs to get this into the heads of his players. Bring on the pressure. Run hard both ways all day. Take calculated risks. It’s pretty much all you can do against this mob.
This isn’t the strongest Hawks line up in history to hit the field. If they can be beaten it’s now. BB needs to get this into the heads of his players. Bring on the pressure. Run hard both ways all day. Take calculated risks. It’s pretty much all you can do against this mob.
They like to chip it around, we must bring real pressure to the ball carrier, force the turnovers and then put pressure on their defence. If we can get the jump on them, they have to play catch-up football and the mistakes come.
We've been beaten by worse Hawthorn sides than this so not counting my chickens, but if McEvoy doesn't get up we are a real chance. If the talk is he'll be right next week than why was he on the bench at the end of the game when the Hawks still had a sniff? I rate the big boy so it would be a massive boost is he was out regardless of Ceglar coming back.
If Charlie returns I'd play him as a high half-forward. Don't see the logic in messing with a forward structure that has worked once in god know's how long. Would have to be another 4 quarter effort to beat these guys and I couldn't imagine them missing as many shots on goal as the dogs did.
This isn’t the strongest Hawks line up in history to hit the field. If they can be beaten it’s now. BB needs to get this into the heads of his players. Bring on the pressure. Run hard both ways all day. Take calculated risks. It’s pretty much all you can do against this mob.
To be honest, they should be beaten.
They are coming off a day's less break than us.
Without Mitchell they don't have a great midfield.
They also don't have Burgoyne to slot in there to help.
Roughy is as slow as treacle.
Typically they have outside runners that cut us up, it will be interesting to see if Bolton tightens up on them.
Gunston or Breust always seem to kick a few against us. Newman and Marchbank should get them.
Hopefully McEvoy doesn't get up.
@ Rocky
Agree. The Hawks will be far tougher opposition than the Dogs and we will have focus hard on maintaining our effort for 4Q. I also think they will punish our mistakes such as turnovers more severely. McEvoy will be a big factor if he plays.
Very interested to see what Charlie's role will be if he returns.
Don't see the logic in messing with a forward structure that has worked once in god know's how long.
This.
I'd play Charlie in the 2s till he finds his touch - nothing like a dose of humility to get one's head sorted.
Dawks will play angry this week.
It was implied in some of the The Angry Ant's post game interviews that he thought they were too easy to play against, which in the past has been his code for some Hodge led snipping! You can be sure that an Angry Ant coached team always has one hit man, but who?
Kennedy in for either of LOB or Polson. Neither are ready for the big time.
Would like Garlett tried up forward too but I guess he needs to earn it....
Fas - where's he at - those who saw the NBs play?
And where is LeBois - never mentioned in injury updates?
Hawks have been luke warm this year....at best.
Ripe for the plucking. Hawks must be worried about Scully and Wingard - giving nothing....
Play 4 quarters and we'll win.
Hawks have been luke warm this year....at best.
Ripe for the plucking. Hawks must be worried about Scully and Wingard - giving nothing....
Play 4 quarters and we'll win.
A must!
Kennedy in for either of LOB or Polson. Neither are ready for the big time.
Rumors are Kennedy might again be injured, maybe cracked ribs late in the VFL game.
Would like Garlett tried up forward too but I guess he needs to earn it....
Mostly missing against the Pies, wasted some football.
Fas - where's he at - those who saw the NBs play?
RR reports he did nothing against his old VFL side, hardly touched it, didn't get enough to even waste it. My mate was at the game reckons Palmer should earn a Mid Season spot.
And where is LeBois - never mentioned in injury updates?
Who cares, long term he's not going to go past guys like Fisher, Cunningham, Gibbons, Poulson, O'Brien, Pickett, etc., etc., unless injuries prevail, even then he's likely to be injured! At the weekend, guys like Dow, Walsh, Fisher, Poulson, SoJ and SPS all spent time rotating/resting forward and looked creative.
Roughead ....> Kreuzer .> McEvoy .....................................................> Casboult
Is this going to be a problem in Launceston?
The aging Roughead has the others comfortably covered in terms of general football, Kreuzer probably gets McEvoy in terms of aerobic capacity but you wouldn't want your life dependent on the difference. McEvoy is more physical than Kreuzer. Levi as good as he was leading up as a KPF is miles off the pace in the center and around the ground at stoppages.
Surely we won't try to break McKay in the ruck, especially after last weekend! So I suspect we retain Levi off the back of 3 goals as a dedicated 2nd ruck/forward, even if Charlie returns!
Keep in mind the Launceston playing surface is bigger than the MCG, and much much bigger than Docklands!
Roughead ....> Kreuzer .> McEvoy .....................................................> Casboult
Is this going to be a problem in Launceston?
The aging Roughead has the others comfortably covered in terms of general football, Kreuzer probably gets McEvoy in terms of aerobic capacity but you wouldn't want your life dependent on the difference. McEvoy is more physical than Kreuzer. Levi as good as he was leading up as a KPF is miles off the pace in the center and around the ground at stoppages.
Surely we won't try to break McKay in the ruck, especially after last weekend! So I suspect we retain Levi off the back of 3 goals as a dedicated 2nd ruck/forward, even if Charlie returns!
Keep in mind the Launceston playing surface is bigger than the MCG, and much much bigger than Docklands!
Roughy looked a shadow of his former self....Liam covers him easily.
I imagine they'll play Cegler too....
But their problems are greater than ours - their back line is under sized and lacking in quality.....who takes big H, who takes the Guv?
Their midfield - without Mitchell, Shiels and Burgoyne - is shallow, to be polite....
Their forward line remains their sole (potential) strength - Breust, Gunston, Wingard, Poppy - but our back line is the equal of any....
I thought the battle of the midfield looked reasonably even yesterday, however it was when the Handbaggers pushed forward that the real differences showed up.
I think Clarkson has the makeshift Dawks midfield well organised and any shortfall is a bit overstated.
I thought the battle of the midfield looked reasonably even yesterday, however it was when the Handbaggers pushed forward that the real differences showed up.
I think Clarkson has the makeshift Dawks midfield well organised and any shortfall is a bit overstated.
Agree.
The difference between Hawthorn and Geelong yesterday was only related to class and experience. When the game was in the balance, the likes of Gary Rohan, Gary Ablett, Harry Taylor , Dangerfield, Selwood, Luke Dahlhouse and co were the difference, and Hawthorn kept on coming. Fair amount of grunt, class and premiership winning experience in that group.
Our fear factor from Hawthorn is as follows:
Paul Puopolo, Liam Shiels (test), Jarryd Roughead, Ben Stratton, Luke Breust, Isaac Smith Permiership players in 2012 and obviously still there.
Ben McEvoy, Jack Gunston, Shaun Burgoyne, were the others still there that won a flag in 2014 and are still there.
Thats a fair chunk of experienced heads leading the way for the current group who managed a preliminary final last year.
Considering our issues lie in inexperience, and team synergy we are coming against perhaps the team that has the most consistent message from coach and leadership in the AFL competition at the moment, and take them lightly at your own peril.
No one said they're (the Hawks' midfield) not well drilled, but rather lacking in class, depth and experience.....
Sicily at 1.89m as a KPD - a midget compared to harry, Charlie or Levi.....
Not saying they'll be easybeats - no way - but this is the sort of game we must win (comfortably ideally).
Agree.
The difference between Hawthorn and Geelong yesterday was only related to class and experience. When the game was in the balance, the likes of Gary Rohan, Gary Ablett, Harry Taylor , Dangerfield, Selwood, Luke Dahlhouse and co were the difference, and Hawthorn kept on coming. Fair amount of grunt, class and premiership winning experience in that group.
Our fear factor from Hawthorn is as follows:
Paul Puopolo, Liam Shiels (test), Jarryd Roughead, Ben Stratton, Luke Breust, Isaac Smith Permiership players in 2012 and obviously still there.
Ben McEvoy, Jack Gunston, Shaun Burgoyne, were the others still there that won a flag in 2014 and are still there.
Thats a fair chunk of experienced heads leading the way for the current group who managed a preliminary final last year.
Considering our issues lie in inexperience, and team synergy we are coming against perhaps the team that has the most consistent message from coach and leadership in the AFL competition at the moment, and take them lightly at your own peril.
Let's not rewrite history - it was 30 points at 3/4 time - the game was dusted. And that margin flattered the Hawks quite frankly.
Sure, they kept coming - that is their hallmark - but the Cats' had it easily covered.....
Sicily at 1.89m as a KPD - a midget compared to harry, Charlie or Levi.....
If he contains Hawkins he can do a job on anybody on our list, probably McGovern is the only KPF who comes close to Hawkins type power forward at the moment!
I'd expect he'll be more than aerobic enough to go with Harry, and a fair bit more physical than Harry's weekend opponents.
At the moment it's pretty clear Harry's go is run for height, if he gains contested strength he's possibly a Buddy like combination. Of course that run is only possible when an opponent leaves space, do not expect that to happen against the Dawks!
Anyway Stratton will be back, and Shiels will also most likely return, both are upgrades on this weeks kids that will make a difference across the board.
The big worry is that we may end up with a typically blustery Launceston day, which will stunt the value of a tall forward line. And I would certainly be sending the team out for extended goal kicking practice before the game. The Hawks play this venue particularly well, and they will be bleeding after their last couple of weeks.
If he contains Hawkins he can do a job on anybody on our list, probably McGovern is the only KPF who comes close to Hawkins type power forward at the moment!
I'd expect he'll be more than aerobic enough to go with Harry, and a fair bit more physical than Harry's weekend opponents.
At the moment it's pretty clear Harry's go is run for height, if he gains contested strength he's possibly a Buddy like combination. Of course that run is only possible when an opponent leaves space, do not expect that to happen against the Dawks!
Anyway Stratton will be back, and Shiels will also most likely return, both are upgrades on this weeks kids that will make a difference across the board.
Yet Harry is 5cm taller and far more mobile/agile than big Tom.....and considerably better than Tom (current Tom) overhead.
Will be interesting to see if Stratton comes back in - Kaiden Brand - who has the height - seems a bit out of his depth. And Stratton's a shorty too.
Shiels will be well underdone after a 4 week hammy injury? Happy to have him in.
Again, it all comes back to who wins the midfield in any event?
HAWTHORN
Grant Birchall (Knee) — Indefinite
Shaun Burgoyne (Hamstring) — 1-2 weeks
James Frawley (Hamstring) — 3 weeks
Darren Minchington (Hamstring) — 1 week
Tom Mitchell (Leg) — Indefinite
Tim Mohr (Knee) — Season
Ryan Schoenmakers (Achillies) — TBC
Liam Shiels (Hamstring) — Test
Ben Stratton (Concussion) — Test
Matthew Walker (Knee) — Test
The big worry is that we may end up with a typically blustery Launceston day, which will stunt the value of a tall forward line. And I would certainly be sending the team out for extended goal kicking practice before the game. The Hawks play this venue particularly well, and they will be bleeding after their last couple of weeks.
Not a problem according to the 7 day forecast Tonyo:
Sunday 28 April
Summary Min 5Max 17 Partly cloudy.Chance of any rain: 5%
Launceston area
Partly cloudy. Light winds.
Yet Harry is 5cm taller and far more mobile/agile than big Tom.....and considerably better than Tom (current Tom) overhead.
Hawkins would break Harry in two!
Hawkins would break Harry in two!
Agree - if he could catch him!
It's interesting, after 3 seasons where a smaller, pressure-driven forward line has been the benchmark, most sides have built their defence around faster mobile defenders to counteract it. Suddenly, we front up with 3 or 4 really big forwards and there is a big match-up problem for most teams. Just need to make sure there is some decent delivery from upfield, and things will get rosier.
As Jack Dyer used to say, little blokes slow down towards the end of a game, but big blokes don't get shorter.
It's interesting, after 3 seasons where a smaller, pressure-driven forward line has been the benchmark, most sides have built their defence around faster mobile defenders to counteract it. Suddenly, we front up with 3 or 4 really big forwards and there is a big match-up problem for most teams. Just need to make sure there is some decent delivery from upfield, and things will get rosier.
As Jack Dyer used to say, little blokes slow down towards the end of a game, but big blokes don't get shorter.
little blokes slow down towards the end of a game, but big blokes don't get shorter.
ripper quote t hat.
Surely after another non show by Polson and Obrien we have to give these boys a long block in the 2s.
Charlie and Kennedy in if fit.....don't really care who it is but Polson in particular has had way too many chances and shows SFA.....cant play again unless we have no one to choose from IMO.
Surely after another non show by Polson and Obrien we have to give these boys a long block in the 2s.
Charlie and Kennedy in if fit.....don't really care who it is but Polson in particular has had way too many chances and shows SFA.....cant play again unless we have no one to choose from IMO.
Pity Williamson didn't have another two's game under his belt.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019-04-23/cuningham-edging-closer-to-return
Let's not rewrite history - it was 30 points at 3/4 time - the game was dusted. And that margin flattered the Hawks quite frankly.
Sure, they kept coming - that is their hallmark - but the Cats' had it easily covered.....
I disagree. With roughly 12 mins to go, the game was in the balance. We are talking a less than 3 goal game for an eventual 22 point victory.
They still kicked 90 points, and we have only gone over 90 points 3 times in the last few years.
The cats are solid across the park, and have premiership players everywhere. By contrast the young Hawks were in the game without 4 of their top liners playing.
It wasnt until Dangerfield scored to extend their lead again that the game was over.
I disagree. With roughly 12 mins to go, the game was in the balance. We are talking a less than 3 goal game for an eventual 22 point victory.
Yes I agree, there is no way known Geelong let the Dawks get that early 4th term momentum!
Clarkson would be dark as hell on the Dawks letting six goals through during time on in the first three quarters. If not for those lapses in the last 3 or 4 minutes of each quarter they could have been ahead on the scoreboard. They did what we did in the first few games, they failed to control the momentum! But in fairness both the Dawks and Handbaggers had a lot of kids playing.
Yes I agree, there is no way known Geelong let the Dawks get that early 4th term momentum!
Clarkson would be dark as hell on the Dawks letting six goals through during time on in the first three quarters.
By contrast we have form in allowing teams to do that.
They kicked 7 goals 15. Make it 13 goals 9 and the whole game may have been very different.
I disagree. With roughly 12 mins to go, the game was in the balance. We are talking a less than 3 goal game for an eventual 22 point victory.
They still kicked 90 points, and we have only gone over 90 points 3 times in the last few years.
The cats are solid across the park, and have premiership players everywhere. By contrast the young Hawks were in the game without 4 of their top liners playing.
It wasnt until Dangerfield scored to extend their lead again that the game was over.
Um no Thry, the Cats kicked the first score of the final term - a goal - at the 7 minute mark - lead 36 points.
They then fell asleep more or less.
Yes, the Hawks kicked the next 3 but the game was curtains......"in the balance"? I think not.
Pity Williamson didn't have another two's game under his belt.
I'd almost take the punt and play him off the bench, be a good player for the Hawks Henderson who seems in rare form this season...
I'd almost take the punt and play him off the bench, be a good player for the Hawks Henderson who seems in rare form this season...
Well, with LOB and Polson in the 22, we're only playing 20 anyway?
But no, our back line looks goood, let's ease Willo into it.....
That would be a huge ask for a guy who cannot be match fit given the amount of footy he has played. Henderson covers a lot of km's. I expect Tom to have another couple ofgames in the NBs
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2019-04-23/injury-update-round-6
Cuners a certain in me thinks.....obvious swap for Polson.
Kennedy for LoB would be ,y other change.
That would be a huge ask for a guy who cannot be match fit given the amount of footy he has played. Henderson covers a lot of km's. I expect Tom to have another couple ofgames in the NBs
I just dont want someone like Obrien lining up on Henderson, Wingard, Bruest, Poppy etc...cant see the last three all having another average game.
Matchups and selections have cost us games in the past we should have won, Beveridge ballsed up the Dogs selections by playing two newbies and leaving
Trengove out. We need to get it right vs the Hawks and have the right players in to suit the conditions and type of opponent and have options.
This is a very winnable game given how injury struck the Hawks are and nothing annoys me more than seeing the wrong team selected.
EB, for a bloke who's played so little footy in the last 18 months and played, I'm led to believe, about 90 minutes of game time on the weekend, it would be a massive ask on the kid to come in and play this week. I think in terms of height down back we've got Jones, Weitering and Marchbank and then Plowman too. We're all keen to see him back playing at the top level given what he showed in 2017 but not a lot too be gained by risking him at this stage.
I think Newman probably gets the gig on Puopolo who always seems to kick goals against us. Jones gets Roughy. If Kennedy is fit then he's probably the obvious in for Polson or O'Brien and if Cunningham comes up then they probably both come in for those two?
I'd almost take the punt and play him off the bench, be a good player for the Hawks Henderson who seems in rare form this season...
There will be no punts. Jack Russell made it clear on his injury update that the focus is on getting players right to go and stay in once they come back from injury (eg Marchbank). He said its all about getting loads into them so they can stay on the park. He said this in reference to Macreadie and Willo. Its a precise science and we now have the best in the business, lets back him in I say. He also said this week we will have our lowest injury rate in a while so its working.
There will be no punts. Jack Russell made it clear on his injury update that the focus is on getting players right to go and stay in once they come back from injury (eg Marchbank). He said its all about getting loads into them so they can stay on the park. He said this in reference to Macreadie and Willo. Its a precise science and we now have the best in the business, lets back him in I say. He also said this week we will have our lowest injury rate in a while so its working.
And there is no need to rush him, nor Macreadie for that matter. The latter shapes as Jones' replacement when the time comes (good few years yet hopefully)?
And there is no need to rush him, nor Macreadie for that matter. The latter shapes as Jones' replacement when the time comes (good few years yet hopefully)?
Russell will eventually overtake BB and SOS as the most important person at our club. I reckon we will eventually see our side as being very durable, even the likes of Tractor and Marchy, all thanks to Jack.
July 22, 2018,
vs Hawthorn.
Matthew Kennedy - 29 disposals, 4 tackles, 1.1 goals.
Cam Polson - 15 disposals (career best), 3 tackles and 1 goal.
But world's apart.
There will be no punts. Jack Russell made it clear on his injury update that the focus is on getting players right to go and stay in once they come back from injury (eg Marchbank). He said its all about getting loads into them so they can stay on the park. He said this in reference to Macreadie and Willo. Its a precise science and we now have the best in the business, lets back him in I say. He also said this week we will have our lowest injury rate in a while so its working.
And wasn’t that great to hear?
Getting the Terrier on board is one reason why I am confident that we’re on the right track.
And wasn’t that great to hear?
Getting the Terrier on board is one reason why I am confident that we’re on the right track.
Any why (kind of) winning games consistently is almost inevitable.
Our best 22, in decent form, is formidable.
Yet to see the best of Marchy, the Guv, Charlie, Cuners, Willo, Kennedy, Setters, SoJ, Special K etc.
https://www.facebook.com/HFCSP83/
Hawks' fans not happy!
Lucky for them we are playing is Tassie and as far as I know none of the Dawks players have made any two-headed social media comments!
Having said that we can remind all Tasmanian fans that Kennett slagged off about leaving the puny ungrateful apple isle in the dust if it didn't cough up more dosh for the privilege of having the Dawks play there!
Playing Shiels a major risk after a month off with a hammy?
McEvoy a risk?
Very winnable game.
Would be nice to get some sort of update on Pickett?
Anyway!.....back to Blues v Hawks?
Anyone know what the forecast is for this game in Tassie? I'm assuming if it's cold/wet/windy, Casboult might be the unlucky one.....probably Polson out too? And bring in Kennedy and maybe even Stocker?
Anyway!.....back to Blues v Hawks?
Anyone know what the forecast is for this game in Tassie? I'm assuming if it's cold/wet/windy, Casboult might be the unlucky one.....probably Polson out too? And bring in Kennedy and maybe even Stocker?
Stocker still a few weeks away. I have a feeling that he’ll get the Harry McK ‘hard love’ treatment.
Stocker was named in a squad a few weeks back so just thought he might be closer but reading VFL summaries it doesn't sound like he's ready yet. I think selection will come down to weather forecast. If it's wet n windy, it's hard to see us going in with Kreuzer and Levi, especially if Charlie Curnow comes back in. Anyone else think we looked pretty good last week WITHOUT Charlie? His form this year has been ordinary at best and he's dropped heaps of marks in a lot of games. Neither he or McGovern have really hit their straps.
I read somewhere that Ceglar might come back in to partner with McEvoy. If that's the case we will need Kreuzer and Levi and hope to break even in the rucks. Charlie Curnow is a potential Rolls Royce, but if he's not 100% fit I would rest him until his knee is right. Bone bruising is a complicated beast, and it will keep flaring up if we don't let it heal. Russell should have the last word on whether he plays or not, but if he plays, I can't see it being in the NBs
Agree Jack....rather play two ruckman with Levi as backup for Kreuzer and leave Harry up forward. They don't have an obvious match up for him. Stratton likely to come back in but Sicily probably gets someone like McGovern. I'd have Ed running with O'Meara this week.
Stocker was named in a squad a few weeks back so just thought he might be closer but reading VFL summaries it doesn't sound like he's ready yet. I think selection will come down to weather forecast. If it's wet n windy, it's hard to see us going in with Kreuzer and Levi, especially if Charlie Curnow comes back in. Anyone else think we looked pretty good last week WITHOUT Charlie? His form this year has been ordinary at best and he's dropped heaps of marks in a lot of games. Neither he or McGovern have really hit their straps.
Sunday 28 April
SummaryMin 9Max 19Partly cloudy.Chance of any rain: 20%
Launceston area
Partly cloudy. Slight (20%) chance of a shower. Winds northwesterly 20 to 30 km/h tending westerly 15 to 20 km/h during the day
then becoming light during the afternoon.
Thanks fly....on that I'd give Charlie another week to recover and bring Kennedy in for Polsen. I reckon the Clarkson/Hawks will make a point of going hard at Walsh in this game so maybe someone like Kennedy can slot in there to give him a chop out. Hawks have only won two games but when you look at a forward line with Roughy, Puopolo, Gunston, Bruest and Wingard it's pretty dangerous on paper and that's where we'll need to be at our best...down back.
This'll be a big test of coaching and player.
The Dawks won't make nearly as many mistakes as the Dishlickers did, they were their own worst enemies. Don't get me wrong, we deserved the win (who predicted a 10gl win :P) as we applied plenty of pressure and I'd like to think that forced errors from our opponents.
The Dawks will target SPS, H and Walshy for sure (they'll try Cripps as well, but, well good luck with that). Others will have to step up.
Cunningham for Polson
Give Curnow another week to get right. We don't need him rushed back only to play like a busted a55 again.
Cunningham for Polson
Give Curnow another week to get right. We don't need him rushed back only to play like a busted a55 again.
Is Cuningham good to go? I suspect that he hasn’t done much training while his kidney heals and the Terrier will want to make sure that he is up to an AFL game.
I hope the Terrier applies the same rules to Charlie; if he’s not 100% he doesn’t play.
I think Kennedy is still a week or two off pressing for AFL selection and none of the other midfielders/small forwards impressed. Perhaps there’ll be no change this week and a couple of lucky boys will get another chance.
Drastic idea... no change would be ideal. It's not like anyone wasn't putting in. Even our worst performer put in 13 pressure acts.
Stocker was named in a squad a few weeks back so just thought he might be closer but reading VFL summaries it doesn't sound like he's ready yet. I think selection will come down to weather forecast. If it's wet n windy, it's hard to see us going in with Kreuzer and Levi, especially if Charlie Curnow comes back in. Anyone else think we looked pretty good last week WITHOUT Charlie? His form this year has been ordinary at best and he's dropped heaps of marks in a lot of games. Neither he or McGovern have really hit their straps.
I reckon McGovern has been pretty good, and Ive enjoyed the agro he has brought at times.
Is Cuningham good to go? I suspect that he hasn’t done much training while his kidney heals and the Terrier will want to make sure that he is up to an AFL game.
I hope the Terrier applies the same rules to Charlie; if he’s not 100% he doesn’t play.
I think Kennedy is still a week or two off pressing for AFL selection and none of the other midfielders/small forwards impressed. Perhaps there’ll be no change this week and a couple of lucky boys will get another chance.
Can't agree DJC, reckon he's trained full tilt for weeks, just avoided contact....
This'll be a big test of coaching and player.
The Dawks won't make nearly as many mistakes as the Dishlickers did, they were their own worst enemies. Don't get me wrong, we deserved the win (who predicted a 10gl win :P) as we applied plenty of pressure and I'd like to think that forced errors from our opponents.
The Dawks will target SPS, H and Walshy for sure (they'll try Cripps as well, but, well good luck with that). Others will have to step up.
Agree Clarkson will make sure our younger midfielders are battered about a bit ,
It’s up to Kreuzer and Cripps to hammer a few Hawks, must protect our skinny youngsters.
Agree Clarkson will make sure our younger midfielders are battered about a bit ,
It’s up to Kreuzer and Cripps to hammer a few Hawks, must protect our skinny youngsters.
Not sure they have the real sniper types in their team these days. Hodge, Lewis, Mitchell have all gone, Sicily is just aggressively dumb. They also have a lot of kids. I think we can match them for aggression. Newman, Gibbons, McGovern are all additions who are strong bodies, Levi and Jones can stand up for themselves and others and good luck ragdolling a 204 cm mountain......and the captain plays very, very fairly, but takes no crap. Bolton will know what to expect....so will the players.
Agree Clarkson will make sure our younger midfielders are battered about a bit ,
It’s up to Kreuzer and Cripps to hammer a few Hawks, must protect our skinny youngsters.
Yet they don't have those types really any longer....
Our big boys >>> than theirs!
Even Weiters is a man mountain these days.
Agree Clarkson will make sure our younger midfielders are battered about a bit ,
It’s up to Kreuzer and Cripps to hammer a few Hawks, must protect our skinny youngsters.
Would be nice to see Casboult clean someone up for once.
I mean seriously run through someone like omeara
Carlton needs to be feared again
Not sure they have the real sniper types in their team these days. Hodge, Lewis, Mitchell have all gone, Sicily is just aggressively dumb. They also have a lot of kids. I think we can match them for aggression. Newman, Gibbons, McGovern are all additions who are strong bodies, Levi and Jones can stand up for themselves and others and good luck ragdolling a 204 cm mountain......and the captain plays very, very fairly, but takes no crap. Bolton will know what to expect....so will the players.
Daniel Howe got Cripps last season.....
Daniel Howe got Cripps last season.....
Fisher.
Broke his leg from memory.
Fisher.
Broke his leg from memory.
Howe had a busy year...
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/hawthorns-daniel-howe-set-for-match-review-officer-scrutiny-for-hitting-patrick-cripps-in-the-jaw/news-story/5fa980f46b13d33a90b05062bc939f59
Fisher.
Broke his leg from memory.
Are people suggesting Howe deliberately broke Zac's leg? Turn it up. Haw go hard at it, I want our blokes to go harder.
It looked pretty deliberate from where I saw it. Stuck his leg out, not the first time it has resulted in a broken leg.
Then he popped Cripps. The pr1ck had a busy afternoon.... And we owe the Kent big time.
B
Dale Thomas Liam Jones Caleb Marchbank
HB
Nic Newman Jacob Weitering Lachie Plowman
C
Marc Murphy Patrick Cripps Sam Walsh
HF
Sam Petrevski-Seton Harry McKay Lochie O'Brien
F
Michael Gibbons Mitch McGovern Ed Curnow
FOL
Matthew Kreuzer Paddy Dow Zac Fisher
I/C
Kade Simpson Levi Casboult David Cuningham Jack Silvagni Jarrod Garlett Matthew Kennedy Charlie Curnow Cameron Polson (Four to be omitted)
IN
Charlie Curnow David Cuningham Jarrod Garlett Matthew Kennedy
Garrett, Polson, Cuningham and Kennedy to miss, meaning Polson our for Curnow (speculation only!!)
B
Dale Thomas Liam Jones Caleb Marchbank
HB
Nic Newman Jacob Weitering Lachie Plowman
C
Marc Murphy Patrick Cripps Sam Walsh
HF
Sam Petrevski-Seton Harry McKay Lochie O'Brien
F
Michael Gibbons Mitch McGovern Ed Curnow
FOL
Matthew Kreuzer Paddy Dow Zac Fisher
I/C
Kade Simpson Levi Casboult David Cuningham Jack Silvagni Jarrod Garlett Matthew Kennedy Charlie Curnow Cameron Polson (Four to be omitted)
IN
Charlie Curnow David Cuningham Jarrod Garlett Matthew Kennedy
Garrett, Polson, Cuningham and Kennedy to miss, meaning Polson our for Curnow (speculation only!!)
Surely the Garlett experiment is over.
Are people suggesting Howe deliberately broke Zac's leg? Turn it up. Haw go hard at it, I want our blokes to go harder.
He tripped ZF in a dangerous / careless fashion, which was intentional. I'm confident he didn't mean to break his leg, but his action risked that outcome.
This is the toughest selection night we've had in 5 or 6 years I'd reckon.
Omit 4 of these:
Kade Simpson Levi Casboult David Cuningham Jack Silvagni Jarrod Garlett Matthew Kennedy Charlie Curnow Cameron Polson (Four to be omitted)
Cunningham has to play as he was our most important player through preseason and played well against the tigs. Polson, Garlett and Kennedy to miss. Either one of Casboult / SOS / Curnow has to miss out (in my opinion).
Surely the Garlett experiment is over.
From that extended squad there is probably 3 players that people suggest are a bit lucky to be in it. All 3 of them possess one quality that our list seems to be in short supply of, hence their constant inclusion.
Speed.
Garlett, polson and obrien have it and few others do.
A team needs it. Hence one of them is usually in the side, usually making way for one another.
Personally I'd like to give each of them an extended run at it, including garlett as I think they have all shown signs worth persisting with. However, I think it will be a need we address in the off season if possible.
He tripped ZF in a dangerous / careless fashion, which was intentional. I'm confident he didn't mean to break his leg, but his action risked that outcome.
Exactly - there's a reason tripping gets a suspension. It's bl00dy dangerous. When you kick someone's legs when they're running flat out you can quite easily break their leg which is why most players (who aren't complete gutless pr1cks) don't do it.
He tripped ZF in a dangerous / careless fashion, which was intentional. I'm confident he didn't mean to break his leg, but his action risked that outcome.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2018-07-22/zac-fisher-suffers-leg-injury
This is the toughest selection night we've had in 5 or 6 years I'd reckon.
Omit 4 of these:
Kade Simpson Levi Casboult David Cuningham Jack Silvagni Jarrod Garlett Matthew Kennedy Charlie Curnow Cameron Polson (Four to be omitted)
Cunningham has to play as he was our most important player through preseason and played well against the tigs. Polson, Garlett and Kennedy to miss. Either one of Casboult / SOS / Curnow has to miss out (in my opinion).
Gartlett got 7 touches in the VFL so surely he's not playing. The other 7 though, well, it's nice to have depth............finally. Simpson is certain, unless we plan on resting him although being round 6 I doubt it. Don't want 4 tall forwards, means one misses out there, unless Charlie's going into the midfield.
Anyway, there's going to be some unlucky souls missing out. Finally we have a good problem instead of the years of $hitty ones we got used to.
From that extended squad there is probably 3 players that people suggest are a bit lucky to be in it. All 3 of them possess one quality that our list seems to be in short supply of, hence their constant inclusion.
Speed.
Garlett, polson and obrien have it and few others do.
A team needs it. Hence one of them is usually in the side, usually making way for one another.
Personally I'd like to give each of them an extended run at it, including garlett as I think they have all shown signs worth persisting with. However, I think it will be a need we address in the off season if possible.
Having speed is one thing, having awful disposal is another. Also shirks a contest.
Surely the Garlett experiment is over.
The Garlett as a defender experiment seems to be over as he played as a small forward with the NBs.
I don’t believe that he did enough to deserve a recall but I take Kruddler’s point about the need for speed.
The Garlett as a defender experiment seems to be over as he played as a small forward with the NBs.
I don’t believe that he did enough to deserve a recall but I take Kruddler’s point about the need for speed.
Yeah great, he'll be really really fast at turning it over.
The Garlett as a defender experiment seems to be over as he played as a small forward with the NBs.
I don’t believe that he did enough to deserve a recall but I take Kruddler’s point about the need for speed.
I'm more inclined to pick someone who'll get the ball and use it first before I worry about how fast they run.
The Garlett as a defender experiment seems to be over as he played as a small forward with the NBs.
I don’t believe that he did enough to deserve a recall but I take Kruddler’s point about the need for speed.
21. Jarrod Garlett
Stats: Seven disposals, three clearances
From the coach: He had moments which were important in our front half which came on the back of his pressure. He was unselfish to set up Matt Owies for our first goal, so there was a team element to what he was doing. It’s about consistency with Jarrod: the small forward role can be difficult but we need him to continue applying pressure as we saw in stages on the weekend.
Not the sort of glowing review that demands a recall. Looked even less effective in the flesh at Vic Park. No way he’ll make the cut.
Yeah great, he'll be really really fast at turning it over.
There is that :)
I'm more inclined to pick someone who'll get the ball and use it first before I worry about how fast they run.
I’m more inclined to pick a balanced team that can match the opposition and exploit their weaknesses. Going into the game with too many slow but reliable footballers would be a recipe for disaster.
That said, I wouldn’t have Garlett in the 22. He needs to show a lot more (but he could be outstanding at training for all I know).
Having speed is one thing, having awful disposal is another. Also shirks a contest.
Garletts issue is confidence. When he has it, his kicking is a sight to behold. Unfortunately, throwing him to all corners of the ground has unsettled him and his game has suffered. Find him a spot and leave him there and you'll see his output improve.
Cuningham for Polson. Don't think Charlie will come up, if he does then expect Meat to get the chop ??? (which would be unfair in some regards).
Then again, if Charlie plays, SOJ is sent back to the NBs (which would also seem unfair in some ways)?
Garlett isnt a contested player , wont ever make it at AFL level...back to the WAFL for him...
Garlett isnt a contested player , wont ever make it at AFL level...back to the WAFL for him...
Still only 22. I reckon he's worth hanging onto for a bit longer. He does some special things. Given a run in a successful team - who knows?
Interesting to note that the Northern Blues article on their team list says all the players named on the Carlton extended bench are nemed in the Northern squad.
BUT neither Charlie Curnow nor Kade Simpson are named in the Northern Squad. I take from this that they are seniors or nothing - hopefully both are good to go, but I suppose the pessimist
might say it suggests both will be missing on the weekend.
http://northernbluesfc.com.au/?p=7133
There is that :)
I’m more inclined to pick a balanced team that can match the opposition and exploit their weaknesses. Going into the game with too many slow but reliable footballers would be a recipe for disaster.
That said, I wouldn’t have Garlett in the 22. He needs to show a lot more (but he could be outstanding at training for all I know).
And yet if he has 6 touches and kicks 2 goals is that a better effort than Polson's 6 disposals, 3 tackle effort?
Cuningham for Polson. Don't think Charlie will come up, if he does then expect Meat to get the chop ??? (which would be unfair in some regards).
Then again, if Charlie plays, SOJ is sent back to the NBs (which would also seem unfair in some ways)?
Yes. Mixed emotions on this quandary.
We need to boldly step back and see the bigger picture.
We finally have some competition for spots. That's what we've been waiting for since SOS took over.
We also have a healthier list so far this season.
It's not just tackles, it's pressure acts, hard chasing and pressure that limits the time defenders have to dispose of the ball and launch counter-attacks, and can cause turnovers
And yet if he has 6 touches and kicks 2 goals is that a better effort than Polson's 6 disposals, 3 tackle effort?
Garlett has kicked 2 goals once in his career and nothing suggests that he is going to match that any time soon.
Jack’s response has stolen my thunder. :)
It's not just tackles, it's pressure acts, hard chasing and pressure that limits the time defenders have to dispose of the ball and launch counter-attacks, and can cause turnovers
Polson’s pressure acts are what keeps him in the team or on the verge of selection. He reminds me of a human pinball. It’s just a shame that the ‘tilt’ light comes on before he can gain possession of the pill.
Still only 22. I reckon he's worth hanging onto for a bit longer. He does some special things. Given a run in a successful team - who knows?
Garlett and Lebois both struggle to impact in the twos....I take your point about doing special things with X factor but none of them do it often enough to justify
being senior players. Pickett is the one I would probably give another year too as he is stronger bodied and has more intent about how he plays that pressure forward type role.
Its a position we need to recruit or trade for next draft period period, the stronger clubs seem to have these smaller forward players winning games for them and
we need to have a bit of that in our weapons cupboard too, at the moment we are very reliant on our tall marking forwards.
Garlett and Lebois both struggle to impact in the twos....I take your point about doing special things with X factor but none of them do it often enough to justify
being senior players. Pickett is the one I would probably give another year too as he is stronger bodied and has more intent about how he plays that pressure forward type role.
Its a position we need to recruit or trade for next draft period period, the stronger clubs seem to have these smaller forward players winning games for them and
we need to have a bit of that in our weapons cupboard too, at the moment we are very reliant on our tall marking forwards.
Lebois is still not selected in the twos
Lebois is still not selected in the twos
Not sure how he got another contract, he never plays and when he does its a minimal contribution, he wouldnt have had too many
games where he has had more than 10 possies in a game.
Not sure how he got another contract, he never plays and when he does its a minimal contribution, he wouldnt have had too many
games where he has had more than 10 possies in a game.
Agreed. I met him once. If he weighs 60kg I'd be surprised. Just a tiny unit - not just in height but he's built like a kid.
Weather looking all good for the talls!
Sunday 28 April
Summary Min 9 Max 19
Cloudy.Chance of any rain: 10%
Launceston area
Cloudy. Winds northwesterly 20 to 30 km/h tending westerly 15 to 25 km/h during the day then becoming light during the evening.
Shizen, 20 to 30 kph cross wind is not ideal for marking or hitting leading targets! :o
Shizen, 20 to 30 kph cross wind is not ideal for marking or hitting leading targets! :o
Yep, i was about to say the same thing.
This is a day for hard nuts who win their own ball, as with that wind, the ball will be on the ground a lot.
This is a day for hard nuts who win their own ball, as with that wind, the ball will be on the ground a lot.
Kenndy rather than Cuningham?????
https://wind.willyweather.com.au/tas/northern/launceston.html
I think you'll find the wind will abate considerably during the course of the game - noting it starts at 3.20pm.
Kenndy rather than Cuningham?????
Kade Simpson Levi Casboult David Cuningham Jack Silvagni Jarrod Garlett Matthew Kennedy Charlie Curnow Cameron Polson (Four to be omitted)
One of Charlie/Casboult to be omitted.
Simpson stays.
2 left.
SOS over the others.
1 left....
Conditions wouldn't suit Garlett.
So its either Cuningham, Polson or Kennedy for the last spot.
I'd be happy with any of those 3 TBH.
First 2 have more speed than Kennedy and won't excited jump out of the way, but he has a bigger body.
Depends on the game....
Loose ball in open space vs contested ball in rugby maul.
One of Charlie/Casboult to be omitted.
Simpson stays.
2 left.
SOS over the others.
1 left....
Conditions wouldn't suit Garlett.
So its either Cuningham, Polson or Kennedy for the last spot.
I'd be happy with any of those 3 TBH.
First 2 have more speed than Kennedy and won't excited jump out of the way, but he has a bigger body.
Depends on the game....
Loose ball in open space vs contested ball in rugby maul.
Not sure Garlett deserves a run based on form but he knows the wind well enough - he's from South Fremantle!
Levi is the obvious back up ruckman - and Special K needs a back up presently.
I note the Hawks have named Ceglar.....
As others have said, just play Charlie upfield - he'll outrun anyone big enough to match up size wise....surely if he plays Sicily is the only one who could run with him? Not Stratton's strength?
That leaves them the quandry as to who takes the Guv and big H.....
I'd play Kennedy - give Cuners a run in the 2s.
And I don't think Charlie's form demands an instant recall but you'd think they'll play him....
Not sure Garlett deserves a run based on form but he knows the wind well enough - he's from South Fremantle!
Sounds like a backup for an injury, maybe Walsh is due for a week off, he's taken some heavy punishment in recent weeks!
Having said that, Plowman and O'Brien had a shocking game.
Sounds like a backup for an injury, maybe Walsh is due for a week off, he's taken some heavy punishment in recent weeks!
Having said that, Plowman and O'Brien had a shocking game.
Simpson being named on the bench would be my guess
Sounds like a backup for an injury, maybe Walsh is due for a week off, he's taken some heavy punishment in recent weeks!
Having said that, Plowman and O'Brien had a shocking game.
Bit harsh. Plowman did his job and was solid IMO. He's very good at helping the other defenders with smart running and positioning, it's very noticeable at the ground, but you wouldn't see it on tv. O'Brien shared the duties of managing Hunter (with Murphy), and did his job. He needs to influence games more, but he's very young so just needs some time, he'll be OK
Sounds like a backup for an injury, maybe Walsh is due for a week off, he's taken some heavy punishment in recent weeks!
Having said that, Plowman and O'Brien had a shocking game.
A swing and a miss....
AFLCA VOTES
WESTERN BULLDOGS VS CARLTON
VOTES PLAYER (CLUB)
10 Harrison McKay (CARL)
7 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
7 Sam Petrevski-Seton (CARL)
4 Zac Fisher (CARL)
1 Lachie Plowman (CARL)
1 Marcus Bontempelli (WB)
A swing and a miss....
My apologies to Plow, I might well have Plowman and Marchbank confused, one of them made some shocking decisions.
I'm thinking they'll give Charlie one more week to be fully fit and maybe bring in Kennedy with either Polson or O'Brien going out.
On the Garlett point, said it all along, he's not a defender at AFL level.
EB, what are your thoughts on a player, if any, that we might take in the mid-season draft....we have one pick available from memory? You wouldn't pick someone for the sake of picking someone but if it addressed a specific need. There's a young bloke playing for Perth in the WAFL (same team that Sydney Stack has come from) called Michael Bennell. Slightly older but has produced some electrifying stuff. Not a high possession player but regularly kicks 2-4 goals. He's actually not a small forward as he's nearly 6'2" but is absolutely deadly around the goals and has real speed.
I'm thinking they'll give Charlie one more week to be fully fit and maybe bring in Kennedy with either Polson or O'Brien going out.
I don't care about his fitness, it's his form that doesn't justify a selection!
Having said that a thread somewhere did report that his work rate was high despite being ineffective.
Agreed LP....never seen him drop so many marks as in these early rounds.
Silvagni would be desperately unlucky to miss out after his game last week....he worked hard up and down the ground and put his body in. We'll need that again this week.
I don't care about his fitness, it's his form that doesn't justify a selection!
Having said that a thread somewhere did report that his work rate was high despite being ineffective.
Tend to agree. He's fumbling everything at the minute. Might have a bit to do with lack of continuity. Hard to push him in at the expense of the guy who just kicked 3 and is our most effective backup ruck.
I'm thinking they'll give Charlie one more week to be fully fit and maybe bring in Kennedy with either Polson or O'Brien going out.
On the Garlett point, said it all along, he's not a defender at AFL level.
EB, what are your thoughts on a player, if any, that we might take in the mid-season draft....we have one pick available from memory? You wouldn't pick someone for the sake of picking someone but if it addressed a specific need. There's a young bloke playing for Perth in the WAFL (same team that Sydney Stack has come from) called Michael Bennell. Slightly older but has produced some electrifying stuff. Not a high possession player but regularly kicks 2-4 goals. He's actually not a small forward as he's nearly 6'2" but is absolutely deadly around the goals and has real speed.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/wafl/michael-bennell-produces-clanger-against-swan-districts-bc-6028555863001
And note the Duke is coaching Perth presently!
Tend to agree. He's fumbling everything at the minute. Might have a bit to do with lack of continuity. Hard to push him in at the expense of the guy who just kicked 3 and is our most effective backup ruck.
Some will read the irony of me boosting Levi, but it's clear we need a backup ruck playing besides Kreuzer, and we cannot carry an out of form KPF in addition to two rucks.
Note the Dawks have named Ceglar in addition to McEvoy, they'll be using one of those two to drop back in front of McKay and McGovern, nothing is more certain. If McKay, McGovern, Kreuzer and Casboult are in form in addition to Cripps, Jones and Weitering, it untenable for any opposition to only run a single ruck against us. A solo ruck would be dead in the water by 1/2 time.
Yep fly....looks like he's been in a good paddock too. But Perth are 4-0 for the first time in a season since 1978 (their last GF appearance!) and he's got them playing some good footy. I think Bennell would be pretty handy....he'd probably have games where he'd hardly touch it (like yesterday) but still end up with a couple of goals (like yesterday). He has freakish skills and is a beautiful set shot on goal.
The other one I was advocating for a spot was Jye Bolton who is in sensational form again and leading most media awards in the WAFL again this year. But he's a smaller/inside midfielder who's not overly quick but gets lots of it.
I'm thinking they'll give Charlie one more week to be fully fit and maybe bring in Kennedy with either Polson or O'Brien going out.
On the Garlett point, said it all along, he's not a defender at AFL level.
EB, what are your thoughts on a player, if any, that we might take in the mid-season draft....we have one pick available from memory? You wouldn't pick someone for the sake of picking someone but if it addressed a specific need. There's a young bloke playing for Perth in the WAFL (same team that Sydney Stack has come from) called Michael Bennell. Slightly older but has produced some electrifying stuff. Not a high possession player but regularly kicks 2-4 goals. He's actually not a small forward as he's nearly 6'2" but is absolutely deadly around the goals and has real speed.
Good question Surfie, to be honest I havent thought too much about it....my guess it would be a VFL player who the club know a bit more about and that SOS
would see more often Type....?...most obvious is probably a small/medium quick goalkicker, you can also never have enough mids and perhaps a running defender with pace who uses the ball well.
They would also need to be in good form and be AFL ready IMO, this is a draft where you want a readymade who can fix a hole on your list through injury or lacking a certain type of player.
Sam Fisher is an obvious choice, club knows him, no re housing/settling in time(see Bennell), could play straight away.
Cory Gregson(ex Geelong) playing in the SANFL is a clever small forward goalkicker and seems over his injuries, while he isnt in the VFL he is a known quantity
and could play straight away.
Yep fly....looks like he's been in a good paddock too. But Perth are 4-0 for the first time in a season since 1978 (their last GF appearance!) and he's got them playing some good footy. I think Bennell would be pretty handy....he'd probably have games where he'd hardly touch it (like yesterday) but still end up with a couple of goals (like yesterday). He has freakish skills and is a beautiful set shot on goal.
The other one I was advocating for a spot was Jye Bolton who is in sensational form again and leading most media awards in the WAFL again this year. But he's a smaller/inside midfielder who's not overly quick but gets lots of it.
Big fan of Bolton too - not sure we need him though?
He'd need to be taking the spot of Dow or Setterfield type?
Many of our current list have already experienced a win over the Dawks, so early predictions of our demise this weekend might be premature!
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/curnow-in-limbo-but-extra-tall-forward-line-is-no-problem-bolton-20190426-p51hho.html
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/curnow-in-limbo-but-extra-tall-forward-line-is-no-problem-bolton-20190426-p51hho.html
There are a lot of naysayers, this won't work, that won't work, too many talls, too many rucks, too many defenders all of it unfounded.
I have to admit I have my doubts, but mostly around picking players of a type ahead of players in form.
If the players are in good form, then the whole scenario changes and just about anything can work!
Just being curious about the thoughts of forum members. After last week's McKay game, what if the running man role was reversed between McKay and Charlie, an inform McKay seriously looks like he could rotate through this role without trouble. It might be just what Charlie needs!
Lebois is still not selected in the twos
He’s done a hammy!
Agree Fly....I was advocating for Bolton as a very late pick in the draft last year but given how we've gone so far through the middle he's probably not exactly what we need right at the minute with Setterfield still to come back into the lineup.
There are a lot of naysayers, this won't work, that won't work, too many talls, too many rucks, too many defenders all of it unfounded.
I have to admit I have my doubts, but mostly around picking players of a type ahead of players in form.
If the players are in good form, then the whole scenario changes and just about anything can work!
Just being curious about the thoughts of forum members. After last week's McKay game, what if the running man role was reversed between McKay and Charlie, an inform McKay seriously looks like he could rotate through this role without trouble. It might be just what Charlie needs!
We'll put 22 talls in there then and see how that works. Not hard to work out that 4 talls forwards just exposes us when the ball hits the ground, and the ball will be on the ground very often. It's too many. Only way Io want all 4 playing is if they put Charlie in the midfield otherwise leave one out. Against GC McKay looked a lost soul with 4 talls forwards there.
We'll put 22 talls in there then and see how that works. Not hard to work out that 4 talls forwards just exposes us when the ball hits the ground, and the ball will be on the ground very often. It's too many. Only way Io want all 4 playing is if they put Charlie in the midfield otherwise leave one out. Against GC McKay looked a lost soul with 4 talls forwards there.
If you have 22 talls, with some that can move like Cripps, McKay and Charlie when they are in form, it's not going to be an issue.
I think the idea you can have too many of one type is highly over-rated, Leigh Matthews said he want a team of 22 Koutafides yet Kouta had some significant deficiencies in parts of his a game.
Horses for courses is a much better policy, with form based selection taking priority over a type!
Formulaic selection and coaching is a long term tactical dead end, it's what brought MM undone! No matter how good your plan, if the opposition know it they will bring you undone!
If you have 22 talls, with some that can move like Cripps, McKay and Charlie when they are in form, it's not going to be an issue.
I think the idea you can have too many of one type is highly over-rated, Leigh Matthews said he want a team of 22 Koutafides yet Kouta had some significant deficiencies in parts of his a game.
Horses for courses is a much better policy, with form based selection taking priority over a type!
Formulaic selection and coaching is a long term tactical dead end, it's what brought MM undone! No matter how good your plan, if the opposition know it they will bring you undone!
Yep form is a good guide but class is permanent. You can from chocolates to boiled lollies all in one game and vice versa.
For reference see fevola when he got stuck on 99. He started the game with 92 goals, had 5 or so shots before half time to convert once, then kicked 6 in the second half.
Yep form is a good guide but class is permanent. You can from chocolates to boiled lollies all in one game and vice versa.
For reference see fevola when he got stuck on 99. He started the game with 92 goals, had 5 or so shots before half time to convert once, then kicked 6 in the second half.
Eleven shots at goal is good form, whether you are kicking straight or not makes no difference.
I suppose that tells you it's possible to be in good form and still play bad football, perhaps that was the point some had made about Charlie having a midfielder type work rate despite some poor returns.
Eleven shots at goal is good form, whether you are kicking straight or not makes no difference.
I suppose that tells you it's possible to be in good form and still play bad football, perhaps that was the point some had made about Charlie having a midfielder type work rate despite some poor returns.
The point is fevola who is one of the games best ever forwards had weitering form all in one match.
Sometimes players can play through a form slump and be more valuable than others who are in cherry ripe form.
The point is fevola who is one of the games best ever forwards had weitering form all in one match.
Sometimes players can play through a form slump and be more valuable than others who are in cherry ripe form.
True, all in one match, not four or five weeks in a row and while carrying an injury!
Media was all about what magic happened last week with McKay, but he was already at the top of the contested marking table which they just hadn't noticed. So they report his game last week like it's a miracle form reversal!
For reference see fevola when he got stuck on 99.
With 6 / 6 /6 Fev would have got the ton that day. Very hard to forgive Sniper Clarkson for his actions that day. Hawthorn players were embarrassed to follow his orders.
With 6 / 6 /6 Fev would have got the ton that day. Very hard to forgive Sniper Clarkson for his actions that day. Hawthorn players were embarrassed to follow his orders.
Yes, I recall Roughead saying a couple of years back that he initially refused the request, I assume before being threatened with consequences!
Final Team: C Curnow IN C Polson OUT
I'd say CC is still doubtful as the radio said that he will be given 'every chance to prove his fitness' which is code for 'Get your gear on Matty Kennedy!!"
Too tall and too slow.
Crazy that LOB keeps a spot....
Too tall and too slow.
Hawks left Ceglar out so maybe they agree with you, reckon Charlie wont play and Kennedy could be in, maybe he can help us with the weather...
Crazy that LOB keeps a spot....
Will be given a specific task again this week.....................
This game is there for the taking...
The Dawks are in indifferent form, even unimpressive form (bar R1). This is one we should win and maybe, like last week, win well. They are unlikely to make as many mistakes as the Dishlickers did but still shouldn't be able to beat us.
Box Hill Hawks play 1 pm Saturday. It will be interesting to see if Ceglar turns up or whether he's shipped down to Launceston to cover for 'Big Boy'
Reading into what Bolts said (and how he said it) at his presser, I reckon Cunners will come in for Charlie (ie he seemed not certain CC would get up, seemed excited at the prospect of Cunners being able to come in).
Crazy that LOB keeps a spot....
Why? He did a great job on Hunter last game.
Box Hill Hawks play 1 pm Saturday. It will be interesting to see if Ceglar turns up or whether he's shipped down to Launceston to cover for 'Big Boy'
I thought they might play both and use Ceglar down back to help with Harry but maybe the weather has influenced then to go with a more mobile lineup.
McEvoy usually does well against us, am hoping he is out....
Too tall and too slow.
Just about what I was going to say. To me, if someone's unlucky so be it. It's about getting the right balance to win a game not keeping players in just because they don't deserve to be dropped.
I thought they might play both and use Ceglar down back to help with Harry but maybe the weather has influenced then to go with a more mobile lineup.
McEvoy usually does well against us, am hoping he is out....
Every Hawthorn player does well against us...lol.
CARLTON
B: Dale Thomas, Liam Jones, Caleb Marchbank
HB: Nic Newman, Jacob Weitering, Lachie Plowman
C: Marc Murphy, Patrick Cripps, Sam Walsh
HF: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Harry McKay, Lochie O'Brien
F: Michael Gibbons, Mitch McGovern, Ed Curnow
R: Matthew Kreuzer, Paddy Dow, Zac Fisher
Int: Kade Simpson, Levi Casboult, Charlie Curnow, Jack Silvagni
Emg: David Cuningham, Jarrod Garlett, Matthew Kennedy, Cameron Polson
IN: Charlie Curnow
OUT: Cameron Polson (Omitted)
HAWTHORN
B: Blake Hardwick, Kaiden Brand, Jarman Impey
HB: Tom Scully, Ben Stratton, Jack Gunston
C: Isaac Smith, Jaeger O'Meara, Daniel Howe
HF: Paul Puopolo, Mitchell Lewis, James Sicily
F: Luke Breust, Chad Wingard, Jarryd Roughead
R: Ben McEvoy, James Worpel, Ricky Henderson
Int: Jack Scrimshaw, James Cousins, Liam Shiels, Tim O'Brien
EMG: Harry Morrison, Conor Nash, Jonathon Ceglar, David Mirra
IN: Ben Stratton, Liam Shiels, Tim O'Brien
OUT: Harry Morrison (Omitted), David Mirra (Omitted), Conor Nash (Omitted)
If they are not intending to slot Cuningham in at the last minute, there is no point in taking him along as the ‘just in case’ emergency. I’d rather see him get game time.
If they are not intending to slot Cuningham in at the last minute, there is no point in taking him along as the ‘just in case’ emergency. I’d rather see him get game time.
I'm thinking Charlie will drop out late.
I'm thinking Charlie will drop out late.
That's my hunch, also. Plus, form considered before injuries, I reckon Cuningham (provided he can put in 4 qtrs) will give our midfield and small forward line even more dangerous zip.
As an aside, terrific media conference from BB re this game. Fewer cliches, more real person... love it. And handled some real curly ones with appropriate 'diplomatic candor'.
As an aside, terrific media conference from BB re this game. Fewer cliches, more real person... love it. And handled some real curly ones with appropriate 'diplomatic candor'.
It’s amazing how much better we can all perform when we don’t have a monkey sitting in the middle of our back!!
It’s amazing how much better we can all perform when we don’t have a monkey sitting in the middle of our back!!
Agree, though I thought last week's was also a beaut. If there is one thing about BB that no-one can dispute... the bloke is giving everything he's got.
Agree, though I thought last week's was also a beaut. If there is one thing about BB that no-one can dispute... the bloke is giving everything he's got.
Doggedness and persistence can often triumph even over pure talent.
I agree on Cuningham being the missing ingredient, terribly small sample size but he’s been our only likely small forward since Betts.
Get him fit and get him in !
Edit: Thanks PPaulPP, the grammar nazi... ????
Only 1 "n", as in Cuningham.
At any rate, I can't get a read on our form for this game. The Hawks are very well drilled, well coached, disciplined and will have plenty of experience and plenty of premiership players lining up tomorrow.
As noted, Hawthorn are vulnerable, it’ll depend on us being switched on and playing to potential, can we ?
I think we can ????????
Doggedness and persistence can often triumph even over pure talent.
Yup. A lot of major league talent (in all areas of life) walking in and out of CentreLink.
Only 1 "n", as in Cuningham.
At any rate, I can't get a read on our form for this game. The Hawks are very well drilled, well coached, disciplined and will have plenty of experience and plenty of premiership players lining up tomorrow.
It's a bit hard to tell isn't it.
Was last week an anomaly?
Did we catch the Bulldogs unprepared...if so it's doubtful the hawks will take us so lightly.
In some respects this is a good test for us to see where we're really at.
Cuningham and Garlett not appearing for the NBs today. One definite change and one traveling emergency, I’d say.
Speculation: Cuningham for Curnow, Garlett.... just in case.
(Surely they wouldn’t take Cuningham over just to sit on his asre and do nothing.
Cuningham and Garlett not appearing for the NBs today. One definite change and one traveling emergency, I’d say.
Speculation: Cuningham for Curnow, Garlett.... just in case.
(Surely they wouldn’t take Cuningham over just to sit on his asre and do nothing.
Maybe he is an in, just depends on who he replaces.
So if Charlie doesn't come up, he replaces him.
If Charlie does come up, maybe Casboult comes out of the side for Cuningham.
Cuningham and Garlett not appearing for the NBs today. One definite change and one traveling emergency, I’d say.
Speculation: Cuningham for Curnow, Garlett.... just in case.
(Surely they wouldn’t take Cuningham over just to sit on his asre and do nothing.
When I heard there was now a cure for dyslexia it was music to my asre.
Ceglar and Nash are out for the Box Hill Hawks. Big Boy definitely in doubt.
When I heard there was now a cure for dyslexia it was music to my asre.
Beware of mods bearing Quipz.
I think he plays for us - good player I heard. Paddy Quipz.
Ceglar and Nash are out for the Box Hill Hawks. Big Boy definitely in doubt.
They’ll play two rucks.
Forecast for the rest of Sunday
SummaryMax 19 Partly cloudy.Chance of any rain: 5%
Launceston area
Partly cloudy. Winds northwesterly 20 to 30 km/h tending westerly 15 to 20 km/h in the morning then becoming light in the late afternoon.
It's frustrating waiting for the game and even more so not knowing whether it will tell us a lot or nothing.
The season hardly hinges on the outcome of one game but this one just might to some degree
All I want is a solid fight, win or lose
It's frustrating waiting for the game and even more so not knowing whether it will tell us a lot or nothing.
The season hardly hinges on the outcome of one game but this one just might
All I want is a solid fight
I think that's a pretty fair thought.
We win and we can all be just that little more confident that we're heading in the right direction. Genuine cause for measured optimism. We lose, then the fear is we're just the same as last year, the kings of honourable/brave loses, and questions surface. Was last week's strong effort real or another false dawn? We know we've got the team to win.
If McEvoy is out for them that's a huge loss for them....
They have a real lack of quality even if they are well drilled etc etc.
A very, very winnable game, hopefully without Charlie.
The Dogs won comfortably over the Dawks at the G.
UTAS ground is 175m x 145m.
The G is 171m x 146m. Very comparable.....
If Fish and SPS turn up today we'll win running away imo.
I also note they've retained Brand - tall (198cm) but very raw....albeit 25 yo.
They'd only retain him (after a poor outing last week) to play on Harry who should run rings around him....conceding considerable height, reach and athleticism.
Stratton and Sicily their other 'talls' down back - both only 190cm (eg SOJ and Guv size).
We must play Levi as a second ruck and his size up forward would certainly create mismatches....(I am presuming Chuck won't play)
If McEvoy is out for them that's a huge loss for them....
They have a real lack of quality even if they are well drilled etc etc.
A very, very winnable game, hopefully without Charlie.
The Dogs won comfortably over the Dawks at the G.
UTAS ground is 175m x 145m.
The G is 171m x 146m. Very comparable.....
If Fish and SPS turn up today we'll win running away imo.
I also note they've retained Brand - tall (198cm) but very raw....albeit 25 yo.
They'd only retain him (after a poor outing last week) to play on Harry who should run rings around him....conceding considerable height, reach and athleticism.
Stratton and Sicily their other 'talls' down back - both only 190cm (eg SOJ and Guv size).
We must play Levi as a second ruck and his size up forward would certainly create mismatches....(I am presuming Chuck won't play)
They have been playing Gunston down back for extra height and have included OBrien to play along with young Lewis down forward...
Danger with Hawks is Bruest, Poppy and Gunston if he plays down forward....we dont really have the right matchups for the first two and its been a ongoing problem.
They have been playing Gunston down back for extra height and have included OBrien to play along with young Lewis down forward...
Danger with Hawks is Bruest, Poppy and Gunston if he plays down forward....we dont really have the right matchups for the first two and its been a ongoing problem.
Win the midfield, the rest falls into place EB.
Missing from the last time we played them and go done by 12 goals
Shaw
Polson
Pickett
Lobbe
Kennedy
Graham
Wright
In
Walsh
Kruezer
Newman
McGovern
Plowman
Gibbons
Thomas
Charlie hasn't come up.
Cuningham in.
Charlie hasn't come up.
Cuningham in.
You're too quick for me, I thought I'd be first with that. :)
Probably better balanced side. Bookies, pundits, scribes etc don't give us a big chance, we don't have a credits in the bank.
They have been playing Gunston down back for extra height and have included OBrien to play along with young Lewis down forward...
Danger with Hawks is Bruest, Poppy and Gunston if he plays down forward....we dont really have the right matchups for the first two and its been a ongoing problem.
Not worried so much about poppy - getting old not as quick as he was and comfortable with Newman taking him and simmo as back up.
Gunston that will be difficult match up and is dangerous shot at goal from any angle so need to watch him closely and really clog up space to limit opportunities
That flog Sicily also needs to have an opponent in our forward 50. Can’t bomb it in or he will take inception marks all day.
Would love to beat this mob
Missing from the last time we played them and go done by 12 goals
Shaw
Polson
Pickett
Lobbe
Kennedy
Graham
Wright
In
Walsh
Kruezer
Newman
McGovern
Plowman
Gibbons
Thomas
So, we'll have the equivalent of about 4 extra blokes on the park!
Any word on Big Boy?
So, we'll have the equivalent of about 4 extra blokes on the park!
Any word on Big Boy?
Hawks remain unchanged from the initial team announced the other day.
We have the only late change with Cuningham for curnow.
So, we'll have the equivalent of about 4 extra blokes on the park!
Any word on Big Boy?
No change for Hawks
Wind no issue...
I dont want to lose anymore, last week felt good.
Anyone, anytime, anywhere, anyhow.
Go Blues.
Charlie hasn't come up.
Cuningham in.
The most unsurprising selection surprise in history.