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Title: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on November 30, 2018, 08:19:21 pm
I've just noticed that the sports streaming service KAYO is now available on Telstra TV for 25 Bucks a month, which seems a much better cost option than Foxtel Now if you only want the sport. Looks like all AFL games will be available direct from Fox Sport, along with many other sports covered. Have any of you tried it yet??
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on November 30, 2018, 10:03:10 pm
Just signed up for a free 14-day trial.....after i read your post.

Obviously being only 4 days old, there are still plenty of improvements to come, like a search option, but early days are very impressive.

Has all the foxtel sports channels except the horses and specialised EPL club ones, none of which i've ever watched. You also can't do PPV stuff, again, never used it.

It is the netflix of sports.

You can do picture in picture on your laptop, so as i type this i'm currently watching Open Mike with Kenny Hunter.

You can also do multiple sports at once in a split-screen kinda arrangements. With varying displays, a quick click will switch between audio streams, so you won't miss a moment of anything.

Once you have worked out what you want to watch, there is no issues. Finding what you want to watch can be a little bit of an issue, as i said, no search.

Seems limited NFL games from what i've seen. Like, 1, at present. I'll put that down to being in its infancy.

Can't seem to stream to my TV, nor watch it via internet on the TV though. Although, it does work through HDMI, so great success.

So yeah, pretty sweet.

I'll give it a week, and if the NFL catalogue improves, i'll cancel foxtel immediately.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on November 30, 2018, 10:41:42 pm
Just signed up for a free 14-day trial.....after i read your post.

Obviously being only 4 days old, there are still plenty of improvements to come, like a search option, but early days are very impressive.

Has all the foxtel sports channels except the horses and specialised EPL club ones, none of which i've ever watched. You also can't do PPV stuff, again, never used it.

It is the netflix of sports.

You can do picture in picture on your laptop, so as i type this i'm currently watching Open Mike with Kenny Hunter.

You can also do multiple sports at once in a split-screen kinda arrangements. With varying displays, a quick click will switch between audio streams, so you won't miss a moment of anything.

Once you have worked out what you want to watch, there is no issues. Finding what you want to watch can be a little bit of an issue, as i said, no search.

Seems limited NFL games from what i've seen. Like, 1, at present. I'll put that down to being in its infancy.

Can't seem to stream to my TV, nor watch it via internet on the TV though. Although, it does work through HDMI, so great success.

So yeah, pretty sweet.

I'll give it a week, and if the NFL catalogue improves, i'll cancel foxtel immediately.

The HDMI feed to your TV is that from a Telstra TV Box?....or can I run Kayo off an Xbox one like I do with Netflix and Stan?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on December 01, 2018, 08:19:56 am
@ Kruddler
Thanks for your report K, boy you didn't hang around! I am going to sign up and now have the app on my Telstra tv. I also have Netflix on there so will be well covered for entertainment. I was going to get Foxtel Now purely for the footy but Kayo fits the bill much better, for me anyway.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on December 01, 2018, 09:10:03 am
The HDMI feed to your TV is that from a Telstra TV Box?....or can I run Kayo off an Xbox one like I do with Netflix and Stan?

HDMI was from my laptop.

I don't think its as well supported as netflix or stan yet, still in its infancy, but i'm sure it will be available on xbox soon enough if its not already.

The idea is brilliant, the overall layout is great, the tech support / portability is still playing catchup.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on December 01, 2018, 09:13:44 am
@ Kruddler
Thanks for your report K, boy you didn't hang around! I am going to sign up and now have the app on my Telstra tv. I also have Netflix on there so will be well covered for entertainment. I was going to get Foxtel Now purely for the footy but Kayo fits the bill much better, for me anyway.

I've been looking into these kinda things a bit lately as i'm fed up with foxtels excessive cost.

We recently got netflix and value for money $h!ts all over foxtel. Only reason we still have foxtel is for the sport. This kinda solves this problem.

However, it is a bit laggy with streaming live sport. Not sure how much of that is my internet connection (still not on NBN) and how much is the app/site.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on December 01, 2018, 11:11:50 am
I've been looking into these kinda things a bit lately as i'm fed up with foxtels excessive cost.

We recently got netflix and value for money $h!ts all over foxtel. Only reason we still have foxtel is for the sport. This kinda solves this problem.

However, it is a bit laggy with streaming live sport. Not sure how much of that is my internet connection (still not on NBN) and how much is the app/site.

I sometimes get a bit of a lag on my tablet but rarely on Telstra tv, although there have been a couple of gluggy periods recently but I have noticed a fair bit of maintenance of cables going on in the area by Telstra contractors.

Btw, I think Fox is part owner of Kayo and I wouldn't mind betting that this is the first step in shifting sport away from Foxtel altogether to this new dedicated service. Hopefully we won't see price increases once we're all hooked.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on December 01, 2018, 12:19:19 pm
HDMI was from my laptop.

I don't think its as well supported as netflix or stan yet, still in its infancy, but i'm sure it will be available on xbox soon enough if its not already.

The idea is brilliant, the overall layout is great, the tech support / portability is still playing catchup.

Ta for that info....we had Foxtel but it wasnt worth it so I canned it but I do miss the sport and the new season/s of " Outlander" .
Was thinking of " Foxtel now" but Kayo has trumped that idea for the sport.....did read a few reviews and it is laggy on ADSL/ADSL2 but no probs on NBN....
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: deags on December 02, 2018, 09:53:06 pm
Can you cast to a Chromecast?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on December 02, 2018, 11:12:04 pm
Can you cast to a Chromecast?

According to the website, yes you can.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: LP on December 03, 2018, 07:58:41 am
Ta for that info....we had Foxtel but it wasnt worth it so I canned it but I do miss the sport and the new season/s of " Outlander" .
Was thinking of " Foxtel now" but Kayo has trumped that idea for the sport.....did read a few reviews and it is laggy on ADSL/ADSL2 but no probs on NBN....

Isn't Kayo run by Foxtel?

Foxtel Now has had very poor market response, Kayo feels like a respin of the same service. I think the tactic might be to sign up people through Kayo at lower rates before the content or service eventually merge.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: deags on December 03, 2018, 08:46:40 am
According to the website, yes you can.

Yep, after I posted I decided I probably can look myself.
I see some mention of only being able to cast to Chromecast ultra.
Has anyone had any experience of trying to cast to a regular old chromecast?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on December 03, 2018, 05:53:50 pm
Isn't Kayo run by Foxtel?

Foxtel Now has had very poor market response, Kayo feels like a respin of the same service. I think the tactic might be to sign up people through Kayo at lower rates before the content or service eventually merge.

Its the same content, but a superior GUI. The split screen options, and picture in picture stuff is a level above.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on December 03, 2018, 07:12:27 pm
Its the same content, but a superior GUI. The split screen options, and picture in picture stuff is a level above.

I think Foxtel has a stake in it but it is a separate entity.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: blueycarlton on December 03, 2018, 08:15:43 pm
What is the screen size? Is it full size, or reduced to 7 inch as the AFL one is.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on December 03, 2018, 09:02:43 pm
What is the screen size? Is it full size, or reduced to 7 inch as the AFL one is.

I use it on my laptop and HDMI it to the TV, thats full screen. My TVs browser doesn't support it for some reason (TV is probably 3 years old).
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: flyboy77 on December 05, 2018, 09:56:37 am
Do we know how much afl will be on it?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: Bear on December 05, 2018, 11:05:51 am
 Thanks for posting guys...  although this is a Foxtel streaming service, it’s not branded as Foxtel... i’d also imagine that there is less chance of an Optus-style World Cup debacle as they are not going to be exclusively showing live events?

I’d be interested to see how it goes when one of the Foxtel exclusive cricket matches is on... and what is the picture quality like on a TV?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: c4e on December 05, 2018, 12:52:55 pm
You can get three logins for $35 a month, so we each pay $35 every three months. Handed the reigns over to my 18 year old, who was doubtful that it would lag ect. Bought a chromecast and he thinks it's brilliant. AFAIK anything you can view on your phone can be played through the chromecast. Actually will have more sports than foxtel. GOODBYE Foxtel as I can watch most horse races through the betting sites which can be played through the Chromecast
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on December 05, 2018, 05:52:16 pm
Do we know how much afl will be on it?

It has all the foxtel sports channels, including AFL channel.

So that means, ALL OF IT.

If there are ever 2 games at once, foxtel just shoves one of the games onto one of the fox sports channels, so you will be able to catch every single game live.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on December 05, 2018, 09:22:23 pm
This is what I've been waiting for to watch footy. I was just about persuaded to get Foxtel Now for the footy but no need now. Kayo will cost me less than half of that for 2 logins - great! I just haven't had the time this week to get into it but hopefully next week.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: c4e on December 06, 2018, 10:38:23 am
This is what I've been waiting for to watch footy. I was just about persuaded to get Foxtel Now for the footy but no need now. Kayo will cost me less than half of that for 2 logins - great! I just haven't had the time this week to get into it but hopefully next week.

There is also a 2 week FREE trial period
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on December 06, 2018, 06:29:25 pm
There is also a 2 week FREE trial period

Which i am 1 week into, tomorrow.

Since signing up for it, i have booked/ordered/bought the necessary equipment and services to give foxtel the flick for good.

I currently have foxtel for ADSL and TV.

I have booked NBN (coming monday) - bye bye foxtel internet
I have bought fetch TV mighty box (to be used as to pause live tv and record multiple shows) - bye bye foxtel IQ box
I have (obviously) started the kayo TV trial, which will roll over into a running contract for sports - bye bye foxtel TV.

So this time next week, i expect foxtel to be banished from my house for good.....and have more money in my pocket because of it.  ;D
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on December 06, 2018, 06:33:53 pm
Have we passed Peak Foxtel??  :o
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: DJC on December 06, 2018, 08:01:15 pm
Which i am 1 week into, tomorrow.

Since signing up for it, i have booked/ordered/bought the necessary equipment and services to give foxtel the flick for good.

I currently have foxtel for ADSL and TV.

I have booked NBN (coming monday) - bye bye foxtel internet
I have bought fetch TV mighty box (to be used as to pause live tv and record multiple shows) - bye bye foxtel IQ box
I have (obviously) started the kayo TV trial, which will roll over into a running contract for sports - bye bye foxtel TV.

So this time next week, i expect foxtel to be banished from my house for good.....and have more money in my pocket because of it.  ;D

Sounds like the way to go.

I have Netflix, etc but have never been tempted by Foxtel.  KAYO sounds like it is a better option.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: c4e on December 10, 2018, 12:19:08 pm
Have we passed Peak Foxtel??  :o

Tried last month to get rid of Foxtel as I got a free Premium month when I changed internet providers. This worked out well as I was off work with my knee
After the month I tried to give it back. They convinced me to be on an uncontrated $10 a month pack with about 10 channels and 5 free movie downloads.
After that month I rang up again and said while $10 is nothing I don't really use it and I really only used it for Sky Racing
The 2nd time it took half an hour to cancel it and even at the 11th hour he offered me $19.99 for mainly the racing channels
I think they are starting to feel some competition
BetEasy have free races plus free NBA live streaming..........PLUS FREE MONEy but that's for another thread
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on December 12, 2018, 05:42:55 pm
So a little update for those interested.

NBN is sorted. Speeds are not great, but thats because its fttn. Still its an improvement on what i had, and its $5 cheaper a month.

Fetch TV has arrived and seems to do everything the foxtel IQ box does, plus can control the TV. 30 free movies to watch, on a rolling rotation, so you lose a movie a day, and get a new movie every day. Available for $1 a month, unlimited viewing. You can watch netflix and stan through that if you have a subscription.

Kayo sports works well with the NBN. I had a split screen with 4 channels streaming at once, HDMI'd to my TV and was in heaven.

Unfortunately, Kayo sports cannot be used on fetch, and thus, cannot record channels.

Looking for a workaround on that and open for ideas.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on December 12, 2018, 06:10:23 pm
So a little update for those interested.

NBN is sorted. Speeds are not great, but thats because its fttn. Still its an improvement on what i had, and its $5 cheaper a month.

Fetch TV has arrived and seems to do everything the foxtel IQ box does, plus can control the TV. 30 free movies to watch, on a rolling rotation, so you lose a movie a day, and get a new movie every day. Available for $1 a month, unlimited viewing. You can watch netflix and stan through that if you have a subscription.

Kayo sports works well with the NBN. I had a split screen with 4 channels streaming at once, HDMI'd to my TV and was in heaven.

Unfortunately, Kayo sports cannot be used on fetch, and thus, cannot record channels.

Looking for a workaround on that and open for ideas.

Interesting K, thanks for the update.

You've ended up with a similar set up to me but with different kit. I have a Telstra TV (Roku Android) with all the apps such as Kayo, Netflix, SBS OnDemand etc etc plus a  Humax PVR through which I can watch and record (using ICEtv)  live tv (you can watch live tv on the Telstra TV but not record it). The Humax has some apps but I think they are gradually being phased out. All of this is connected in to my LED TV and soundbar. Works very well and I don't have any streaming issues (NBN not yet available and still on the old Telstra cable service}. I also have an old Apple TV which works but is hardly ever used these days. I haven't had time to explore the joys of Kayo yet but I'm looking forward to giving it a good workout in the JLT series.

I'd be surprised if there would be a way of recording from Kayo but if you find it I'd like to know. Maybe via some sort of output from the tv set?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on December 12, 2018, 07:06:41 pm
I'd be surprised if there would be a way of recording from Kayo but if you find it I'd like to know. Maybe via some sort of output from the tv set?

Limited inputs on the fetch box. No antenna output on the foxtel box, which was my attempt at a workaround.

No immediate solutions presenting themselves.

Not a HUGE issue as kayo allows you to watch stuff that isn't currently live, but not everything that is live, ends up being allowed to be replayed....NFL for one. You have to watch that live or not at all. Of course, live is usually am hours on works days, which isn't really an option for anyone who has a job.

Fingers crossed that fetch adds kayo sports app availability as it has with Stan and Netflix...but even then, not sure that will help.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on January 29, 2019, 06:13:59 am
Just discovered a bug in the Telstra TV (Roku) app for Kayo. When watching a replay the audio and vision gradually drift out of synch. Does not appear to be a problem on live shows and looks like it is specifjc to this platform. Seems OK on PC and Android tablet. Apparently app developers (Foxtel) are working on a fix.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: LP on January 29, 2019, 08:07:36 am
Kayo is not too bad, it'd be better if it had Eurosport and a couple of the other channels like the full Foxtel package but it doesn't.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: Thryleon on January 29, 2019, 02:12:00 pm
Anyone who's using an android box can install an app called livenet.tv

You have to sideload it (installed from web rather than playstore).

The price can't be beaten, and it works well enough but there's no catch up option which is fine.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: malo on January 30, 2019, 09:07:58 am
Very interested to read all the reports, thanks all..

It's utterly galling that the sports fans are the users that are always ripped off !!  If you have no interest in sport, but love movies, TV series, Doccos......you can get your fix for less than $10 a month.....why are we made to pay hugely increased rates for watching our passion ?

Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: c4e on January 30, 2019, 11:40:55 am
@ Malo

We've had 3 on the licence and now into our 3rd month and it costs under $12 a month each. Had no issues
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: madbluboy on January 30, 2019, 12:46:20 pm
Anyone know when it will be available on Android TV?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on January 30, 2019, 01:00:13 pm
@ Malo

We've had 3 on the licence and now into our 3rd month and it costs under $12 a month each. Had no issues

I've got a basic plan @ $25 pm, still in the free trial period so no actual outlay yet. I'm not a fan of other sports tbh but I'm happy with that price just to watch footy, but I wish the glitch with the Telstra TV app (Roku) on replays could be fixed - no plans by Kayo at this stage to do that apparently?? (Wonder if there is about to be a technology change with Telstra TV?) I would have to watch replays via tablet or PC laptop (could connect to tv via HDMI) if necessary I guess.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: DJC on July 27, 2020, 09:40:23 pm
I couldn’t get the live coverage of Saturday’s game on my laptop but I could get it on my iPad.  I could get the replay (or “from the start”) on the laptop and I fast forwarded to catch up to the live coverage.  In fact, I went past the live coverage and the “replay” was actually about 30 seconds ahead of the live coverage  :o

How does that happen?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: LP on July 27, 2020, 10:01:23 pm
I couldn’t get the live coverage of Saturday’s game on my laptop but I could get it on my iPad.  I could get the replay (or “from the start”) on the laptop and I fast forwarded to catch up to the live coverage.  In fact, I went past the live coverage and the “replay” was actually about 30 seconds ahead of the live coverage  :o

How does that happen?
It is probably because you got corrupt DNS settings on your laptop, you might have some software (often security software) that has hijacked your laptop and is routing data to you via a VPN or some other network. So Kayo thinks you are not where you are!

Sometimes it will be because your home router settings are corrupted, and that hardware needs a reboot. But if the iPad was working it's probably the laptop. Too many hibernations since the last reboot is a common problem.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on July 27, 2020, 10:06:28 pm
Or the "live" coverage is not really "live"?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: LP on July 27, 2020, 10:08:31 pm
Or the "live" coverage is not really "live"?
 If it's being broadcast on CheatsTV the Kayo feed is usually a few seconds behind.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on July 27, 2020, 10:29:58 pm
I couldn’t get the live coverage of Saturday’s game on my laptop but I could get it on my iPad.  I could get the replay (or “from the start”) on the laptop and I fast forwarded to catch up to the live coverage.  In fact, I went past the live coverage and the “replay” was actually about 30 seconds ahead of the live coverage  :o

How does that happen?
Sometimes if you are streaming live and you have a dodgy connection it might pause for a second and continue. That way you don't get jumps in the game when it skips back over the paused parts.

If that happens quite a few times, it could put you 30 seconds behind.
If you know its paused on you a couple of times (and still saying 'live') a good trick is to go back 15 seconds and click 'live' It will take you up to 'actual live' rather than your 'pause-delayed live'.

Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: northernblue on July 27, 2020, 10:30:33 pm
Or the "live" coverage is not really "live"?

I was watching the afl app on my iPad in Darwin on Saturday and as is often the case I was 30 seconds behind the live play that Roblues was watching on fox on the Sunshine Coast  !
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on July 28, 2020, 09:27:47 am
I was watching the afl app on my iPad in Darwin on Saturday and as is often the case I was 30 seconds behind the live play that Roblues was watching on fox on the Sunshine Coast  !

I've noticed that too. Mate of mine has Foxtel and his stream is ahead of mine on Kayo, which is taking the Foxtel coverage.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: LP on July 28, 2020, 09:29:57 am
I've noticed that too. Mate of mine has Foxtel and his stream is ahead of mine on Kayo, which is taking the Foxtel coverage.
There is a deliberate delay for Kayo, if you are worried about it you can pay the full price and get Foxtel.

It is impossible for Kayo to take the live HD feed from anyone, re-encode it using a proprietary algorithm, transmit and then have it decoded by the App at your end, and not introduce a delay.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on July 28, 2020, 09:31:33 am
There is a deliberate delay for Kayo, if you are worried about it you can pay the full price and get Foxtel.

I can live with it. 😎
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: DJC on July 29, 2020, 08:17:06 am
It is probably because you got corrupt DNS settings on your laptop, you might have some software (often security software) that has hijacked your laptop and is routing data to you via a VPN or some other network. So Kayo thinks you are not where you are!

Sometimes it will be because your home router settings are corrupted, and that hardware needs a reboot. But if the iPad was working it's probably the laptop. Too many hibernations since the last reboot is a common problem.

No, I’m sure that it was just that the NBN was having an off day.  We have a fixed wireless connection and it has its moments 🙁

The iPad lost the “live” coverage too.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: Tragic on July 29, 2020, 12:18:37 pm
I sometimes like to wait half an hour after the coverage starts when watching games on Kayo.  Then I start from the beginning and can fast forward the ads or crappy pregame segments if i wanna.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on July 29, 2020, 01:28:38 pm
Having a Telstra mobile and getting AFL live pass for free I just cast it to the TV.......
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: cookie2 on July 29, 2020, 01:51:48 pm
Having a Telstra mobile and getting AFL live pass for free I just cast it to the TV.......

Interesting EB. That must be relatively new as that feature wasn't available a couple of years ago. In fact you could only get a phone sized screen even on an Ipad.
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Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on July 29, 2020, 02:07:16 pm
Interesting EB. That must be relatively new as that feature wasn't available a couple of years ago. In fact you could only get a phone sized screen even on an Ipad.
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Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: Thryleon on July 29, 2020, 04:33:15 pm
Having a Telstra mobile and getting AFL live pass for free I just cast it to the TV.......
Yep I do this too.

It wont let you cast the phone then start the stream, but there is a loophole where they cant quite close off that I think EB1 has cottoned to.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: DJC on July 29, 2020, 07:12:15 pm
I wonder if the delay is to discourage viewers from turning the volume down and listening to the radio coverage 🤔

My other beef with Kayo is making viewers sit through far too long of three ex-footballers and an ex-basketballer pretending to be comedians before showing the club song 😡
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: blueboys_1 on July 30, 2020, 08:16:20 am
Yep I do this too.

It wont let you cast the phone then start the stream, but there is a loophole where they cant quite close off that I think EB1 has cottoned to.

HI Thryleon and EB. Would you mind sharing this please. A PM will be fine thanks.

A couple of questions.

I have a work phone that is on the Optus network, however we are are a Telstra connected house. Would this make any difference to been able to cast from my phone to the TV?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: LP on July 30, 2020, 08:24:22 am
I have a work phone that is on the Optus network, however we are are a Telstra connected house. Would this make any difference to been able to cast from my phone to the TV?
Having Telstra internet or any Telstra mobile at home means you should be getting AFL via Telstra's own apps, if you only have a Telstra landline phone it doesn't count. I know this because I switched from Tesltra internet but kept the Telstra landline via NBN, but I don't get AFL or other streaming.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: blueboys_1 on July 30, 2020, 05:58:20 pm
Yep I do this too.

It wont let you cast the phone then start the stream, but there is a loophole where they cant quite close off that I think EB1 has cottoned to.
Thanks for the PM Thryleon
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: Gointocarlton on July 31, 2020, 08:14:01 am
Having a Telstra mobile and getting AFL live pass for free I just cast it to the TV.......
Not if its an iphone. I found only Android phones allow you to do that or has something changed.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on July 31, 2020, 09:09:32 am
Not if its an iphone. I found only Android phones allow you to do that or has something changed.
Not sure about Iphone's, I use an android phone and like I said my TV is also android.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: Gointocarlton on July 31, 2020, 02:26:18 pm
Not sure about Iphone's, I use an android phone and like I said my TV is also android.
My BIL with an android can stream to my smart tv, iphones dont allow it.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: shawny on March 20, 2021, 02:14:52 pm
Sorry guys, but can i have someone advise on costs for Kayo. Im a telstra customer and i saw a $5 per month deal which i applied for but then when logging in on my iphone it wont let me watch a live game as it says you need full access which is $25 per month

Is the $25 per month the going rate?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: northernblue on March 20, 2021, 02:23:46 pm
Sorry guys, but can i have someone advise on costs for Kayo. Im a telstra customer and i saw a $5 per month deal which i applied for but then when logging in on my iphone it wont let me watch a live game as it says you need full access which is $25 per month

Is the $25 per month the going rate?

$25 is the going rate, however depending on your Telstra plan you can get the “basic” Kayo for either $5 or $15 for 12 months.
If you had the afl live pass, you should be entitled to the $5 deal.
I also had dramas getting it, I went to the Telstra store twice, they got me connected, but you can’t tack the $5 onto your phone bill, you’ll need to plug your cc into their (kayo’s) system, then everything unlocks for you.
Ps
The difference between the two Kayo packages is only the number of concurrent live streams... the basic gives you 3 and the premium gives you 5 (I think) I think you can setup 5 profiles within your account (to focus your preferred sports to you).
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: northernblue on March 20, 2021, 02:29:34 pm
I watched via Kayo on Thursday night, the frustrating thing was that Robblues who lives in Qld (I’m in darwin) was watching Fox and I was 2:10 behind his feed !
Very frustrating !
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: shawny on March 20, 2021, 02:42:17 pm
$25 is the going rate, however depending on your Telstra plan you can get the “basic” Kayo for either $5 or $15 for 12 months.
If you had the afl live pass, you should be entitled to the $5 deal.
I also had dramas getting it, I went to the Telstra store twice, they got me connected, but you can’t tack the $5 onto your phone bill, you’ll need to plug your cc into their (kayo’s) system, then everything unlocks for you.
Ps
The difference between the two Kayo packages is only the number of concurrent live streams... the basic gives you 3 and the premium gives you 5 (I think) I think you can setup 5 profiles within your account (to focus your preferred sports to you).

Thanks mate
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 20, 2021, 03:05:57 pm
I switched to the Kayo Telstra $5 deal for 12 months after having AFL live pass courtesy of my Telstra mobile plan, bit fecked off with Telstra cancelling live pass after learning how to cast it off the phone for free. Signing up online was easy enough and attaching it to the bundle where I have my mobile, NBN and home phone line seemed easy. Kayo of course is Foxtel which of course Telstra have a 35% holding in, wont be happy when the 12 months is up paying $25 a month but I guess its better than a full foxtel package with a heap of useless channels I wouldnt watch.  I do like the international cricket and basketball NBL/NBA so for $5 a month its a good deal IMHO.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: Wet Willie on March 20, 2021, 05:22:23 pm
Having huge problems trying to connect to Kayo.  Website says I don't have authority to access the server...  Called Kayo who say its a Telstra problem with our router.  Called Telstra who reckon its a Kayo problem...  Have rebooted everything back to factory setup etc.
 Wasted so much time on this.  Any thoughts from our tech heads here?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2021, 05:27:11 pm
I watched via Kayo on Thursday night, the frustrating thing was that Robblues who lives in Qld (I’m in darwin) was watching Fox and I was 2:10 behind his feed !
Very frustrating !


There is a 'live' button which you can click on and that will take you up to date. If there is any buffering issues you start to lag behind.

....or you just started a bit late.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: northernblue on March 20, 2021, 07:16:54 pm

There is a 'live' button which you can click on and that will take you up to date. If there is any buffering issues you start to lag behind.

....or you just started a bit late.

No I started watching when the pregame garbage started (first and last time 😄) and it was early in the first Q when we noticed how much we were out of sync, made Robblues seem like Nostradamus... 🙄
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: northernblue on March 20, 2021, 07:20:35 pm
I switched to the Kayo Telstra $5 deal for 12 months after having AFL live pass courtesy of my Telstra mobile plan, bit fecked off with Telstra cancelling live pass after learning how to cast it off the phone for free. Signing up online was easy enough and attaching it to the bundle where I have my mobile, NBN and home phone line seemed easy. Kayo of course is Foxtel which of course Telstra have a 35% holding in, wont be happy when the 12 months is up paying $25 a month but I guess its better than a full foxtel package with a heap of useless channels I wouldnt watch.  I do like the international cricket and basketball NBL/NBA so for $5 a month its a good deal IMHO.

I’ve got an iPhone so no luck streaming to tv for me.
I agree on $5 being good value, I’m barely interested in other afl games let alone have time for other sports or as you note junk channels.
I guess I’ll see how I feel next year when the price goes up...
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: northernblue on March 20, 2021, 07:27:20 pm
Having huge problems trying to connect to Kayo.  Website says I don't have authority to access the server...  Called Kayo who say its a Telstra problem with our router.  Called Telstra who reckon its a Kayo problem...  Have rebooted everything back to factory setup etc.
 Wasted so much time on this.  Any thoughts from our tech heads here?

Do you have the app installed on your tv ?
Have you been able to register to Kayo ?
My issue was accessing the $5 link, it was only allowing me to access the $15 link.
Once I got the right link it was pretty easy, although initially all the feeds were padlocked, until I went back to the register for new service (or somesuch) and it took me to about step 5 of the registration process... $$$ cc please 👍🏼
I’d keep pumping Telstra.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2021, 07:46:33 pm
No I started watching when the pregame garbage started (first and last time 😄) and it was early in the first Q when we noticed how much we were out of sync, made Robblues seem like Nostradamus... 🙄

I started watching when pre-game started.....but i'd already missed a minute of the pre-game, so i clicked the live button and brought myself up to speed.
;)
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: madbluboy on March 20, 2021, 07:52:57 pm
I started watching when pre-game started.....but i'd already missed a minute of the pre-game, so i clicked the live button and brought myself up to speed.
;)

No matter what you will always be a minute or 2 behind Foxtel.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2021, 07:56:51 pm
No matter what you will always be a minute or 2 behind Foxtel.
On a phone.....maybe, but not my TV.

They've streamed games on kayo that have been on ch 7 as well....and they've been at the same time. So unless 7 is behind or foxtel has a time machine, i can't see how thats the case.

FWIW, kayo is owned by foxtel and uses the same channels as foxtel.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: madbluboy on March 20, 2021, 08:13:32 pm
No matter what I did last year I was always behind my mate's broadcast. I had to tell him to stop texting me.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: Baggers on March 20, 2021, 08:36:19 pm
I watched the game live on Kayo on my computer and it was synced with the TV ... I knew this when Mrs Baggers was okay with me watching it on the teev during the commercials of the show she was watching!!!
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on March 20, 2021, 08:36:36 pm
No matter what I did last year I was always behind my mate's broadcast. I had to tell him to stop texting me.
On the phone or tv or laptop....?
Did you use the live function?
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: northernblue on March 20, 2021, 09:17:31 pm
No matter what I did last year I was always behind my mate's broadcast. I had to tell him to stop texting me.
My experience as well mbb. Ever since the live app in Darwin I’ve always been behind the Qld fox feed.
It’s ok for me as robbblues a pain in the arse, so it’s no hassle to tell him to piss off 🤣🤣
I’m lying, Robbie’s a top bloke, just annoying when he can “predict” what’s about to happen.. 🤣
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: LP on March 20, 2021, 10:53:48 pm
No matter what I did last year I was always behind my mate's broadcast. I had to tell him to stop texting me.
Kayo is always in some delay to Foxtel or any other broadcast, it takes the Foxtel and other feeds and has to be re-compressed into a multiple resolution streams before it gets re-broadcast because they can't use the same compression as DTV or Foxtel boxes. It doesn't happen in parallel.

The compression algorithms are also patented and licensed, like many digital media codecs, which is another reason they do not all use the same, they are protecting their own content and IP.

Really, the way is because it is no difference to hearing the delay/echo between two TV's playing the same show, one in HD and one in SD, just the effect is bigger. Sometimes the difference between SD and HD timing can be as much as a couple of seconds.

The people posting that Kayo viewers should have no delay either do not know what they are talking about, or are just lying for whatever private reason they have.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: kruddler on March 25, 2021, 07:55:29 pm
The people posting that Kayo viewers should have no delay either do not know what they are talking about, or are just lying for whatever private reason they have.

I counted tonight and there was a 7 second delay.

Still have no idea where people are getting 2 minutes from. Seems like user error to me.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: LP on March 25, 2021, 11:23:20 pm
I counted tonight and there was a 7 second delay.

Still have no idea where people are getting 2 minutes from. Seems like user error to me.
 That'll be the very best you can expect to get, subject to the stream you choose to run.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: northernblue on March 25, 2021, 11:49:39 pm
I counted tonight and there was a 7 second delay.

Still have no idea where people are getting 2 minutes from. Seems like user error to me.
It was 7-10 seconds tonight.
You may have been correct about the “watch from start” “watch live” option...
I watched the entire pre match (rd1) from start... I assumed that it would prompt to go live for the game following, it didn’t...
Tonight I missed the first 5 mins, started up the app and hit the “watch live” button.
Title: Re: KAYO
Post by: LP on February 04, 2024, 05:31:03 pm
Those of you using Kayo in a PC web browser might notice that at times the stream quality seems pretty ordinary.

I've used Kayo via AppleTV Kayo App for years and had no problems, but I've noticed that in PC based web browsers the quality is often pretty poor.

A mate was telling me the problem is the browsers settings can default to "Up to HD", but if you go to the settings and change the Quality Option to "Up to SD" weirdly you might find the quality of the average stream improves significantly, it worked for me.