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Title: On Topic/ Merged topics
Post by: Lods on May 30, 2014, 08:38:53 am
It's one of the strange features of a site like this that threads often drift away from their original intent.
A thread basically goes where he/she wants to go....and lives and dies on the participation in it.

Normally this isn't an issue but at times of big debates and discussions of a particular topic it can become a problem,

It's a problem because it stifles the discussion on the original topic...... and also folk are posting the same things in multiple threads.
It makes it hard to follow debate or even remember in which thread you're arguing a point.

Can folk just take a minute before posting and decide whether the point they are about to make relates to the topic.... or would it be better made in another, more appropriate thread.
Thanks
Title: Re: Staying on topic
Post by: Lods on May 25, 2015, 03:00:05 pm
'Bump'

Folks can we just ask a favour.
A lot of threads are drifting off into discussions of Malthouse and club problems.
Even the AFL season thread has turned into a Malthouse thread

We have established threads for those discussions.
It takes a lot of time to select posts to split and then merge them to ensure they're in the correct thread.

Could we just be a little more diligent in keeping on topic
Thanks
Title: Re: Staying on topic
Post by: Lods on August 07, 2015, 06:21:34 pm
Bump
Once again this is becoming a bit of an issue.
In some respects I've been as 'slack' as others....but we're getting a few (legitimate) complaints about threads being side-tracked.

Could folk just have a think before they post.
We have threads for the Malthouse vs Ratten debates (not sure why we're bothering as both are gone....but I suspect they'll continue.... and I'll probably participate :D) and the ongoing board discussion.

It can be a bit tricky I realise....for instance "who did Yarran play his best football under" is probably a legitimate part of the Yarran discussion.... but
If your post would better sit in a Malthouse v Ratten thread can we keep them there.
Title: Re: Staying on topic
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on August 07, 2015, 07:31:08 pm
Blame the Mickinites! They are the ones who keep on bringing him back up. I want to forget about him just as much as the next person but you just can't help but respond at times, and it gets going from there.
Title: Re: Staying on topic
Post by: kruddler on August 07, 2015, 07:47:16 pm
lol @ carrots bringing up Mick in the stay on topic thread.
Title: Re: Staying on topic
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on August 07, 2015, 07:49:53 pm
Well considering lods had already brought him up......you absolute goose. :P
Title: Re: Staying on topic
Post by: kruddler on August 07, 2015, 07:58:25 pm
Lods was the only one who had posted in the thread since May 2014. The first non-post was you and Mick. :P

Anyway, go ahead and delete this posts Lods. :D
Title: Re: Staying on topic
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on August 07, 2015, 08:00:40 pm
Okay whatever. Just do us all a favour, whoever keeps bringing Mick back up just let it go. It's not hard to move on. First you stop thinking about him, then you stop posting about him! :D
Title: Re: Staying on topic
Post by: Lods on August 07, 2015, 09:02:40 pm
I actually had it locked up :D

That's the reason no-one's posted in it.
I forgot to re-lock it and you two blokes took advantage of it to turn it into a Malthouse debate
 :)) :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: Staying on topic
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on August 07, 2015, 09:05:46 pm
I know I couldn't believe my luck when I saw I could post. ;D
Title: merged topics
Post by: jeza on August 21, 2015, 09:37:55 pm
Why wasn't this thread just rolled into the existing one under Fire Sale?
Title: Re: merged topics
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2015, 08:58:19 am
Why wasn't this thread just rolled into the existing one under Fire Sale?

Fair question....and probably an opportunity to just give a bit of an explanation as to how these things work.

The initial purpose of this thread is  different to the "fire sale thread".....which is about list issues. (what they're worth, the approach we take with folk who want to leave, issues between players)
That's why it's in theCommittee room.

This one is supposedly more concerned with looking at the environment we've created and why it's not conducive to keeping players.
It's a club cultural issue which is why it's in the Bluebloods bar

But as often happens the lines become blurred and 'list issues' turn into board arguments which seems to have happened in the "Fire sale" thread.

Now threads really have a mind of their own.
They go where discussion leads them.
When two threads develop similar lines of discussion one usually ends up dominant and the other dies.
If they continue on a similar path over a number of days the option to merge is always there.....but we usually give threads a little time to find their direction and points of difference before this happens

We can redirect discussion back to the topic, or we can merge or split threads...but these are really time consuming activities.
What you see on the forum doesn't always reflect the amount of work behind the scenes on these tasks and it's often more practical to just let threads go until interest is lost, rather than merging and locking a topic.

As has been highlighted before, there is a bit of responsibility on the individual poster to make sure they stay with the topic and the general message behind an opening post.

Board arguments and Malthouse/Ratten discussions are usually enough to drag any topic away from its original purpose so watch those ones in particular.

So in terms of this thread....here's the topic

Quote
We appear to be experiencing something of a player "exodus".

The question is, why are these players wanting to leave ??

What has the club done to bring it to this ??

Is it a a cumulative result of very poor player management over a long period of time ??

Are there others planning to jump ship too but are waiting for the right time to say so ??

Is our club so 'on the nose' that no-one wants to come here ??

What needs to happen administratively to turn this around before it becomes a calamity ??

Title: Re: merged topics
Post by: kruddler on August 22, 2015, 09:01:27 am
Lods....you can ask different questions, but sometimes the answers are the same. Hence, end up discussing the same things in different threads.
Title: Re: merged topics
Post by: PaulP on August 22, 2015, 09:05:31 am
Lods....you can ask different questions, but sometimes the answers are the same. Hence, end up discussing the same things in different threads.

Yes, usually Ratts v Malthouse, crap board, culture, recruiting, development etc.

Most of the threads started by Sheik are variations on the "soul searching" theme.

EDIT : and BTW, Exodus is a terrific album.
Title: Re: merged topics
Post by: Professer E on August 22, 2015, 09:09:55 am
I believe its actually the second chapter in a famous book.
Title: Re: merged topics
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2015, 09:13:12 am
Lods....you can ask different questions, but sometimes the answers are the same. Hence, end up discussing the same things in different threads.

That's true
The answers are the same in some peoples opinions.... but we need to consider different points of view.
Some people might have different answers.

For some the board may be behind players wanting to leave
For others it might be a fractured playing group

Where they want to go, and how they get there and what we get for them is a different topic.

You know as well as I do that threads go where they want to go.
The strong survive, the weak ones don't and die.

It may be worth merging this one and the fire sale....but lets give it more than a day or two.

If no-one wants to discuss it then it will die.
But lets not bog it down on a discussion of logistics or I'll have to split it. :D

Title: Re: On Topic/ Merged topics
Post by: Lods on August 22, 2015, 09:25:27 am
Just moved the discussion in here from the Exodus thread.
Title: Re: merged topics
Post by: kruddler on August 22, 2015, 09:40:20 am
please delete
Title: Re: merged topics
Post by: kruddler on August 22, 2015, 09:42:22 am
caught up in split
Title: Re: On Topic/ Merged topics
Post by: age on August 22, 2015, 10:30:24 am
Just stop Sheik from starting threads.  Problem Solved.  :P
Title: Re: On Topic/ Merged topics
Post by: northernblue on August 22, 2015, 01:20:35 pm
Just stop Sheik from starting threads.  Problem Solved.  :P

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