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Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #210
I still have painful memories of him kicking goals against us for the Saints.
As Kruddler said originally, he averaged 20 possies at the Saints and was a consistent performer, he wasnt recruited to
be a star or win games with us just buy some time while the likes of Obrien, Dow, Philp, Ramsay developed and forced him out of the team. So far its job done for Newnes, he was a slow starter but added some goals to his game which has made him handy.
My son inlaw to be is a mad Saints fan and wasnt a fan of Newnes but said the one thing he does do well is kick goals from set shots as he has a decent kicking action.

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #211
As Kruddler said originally, he averaged 20 possies at the Saints and was a consistent performer, he wasnt recruited to
be a star or win games with us just buy some time while the likes of Obrien, Dow, Philp, Ramsay developed and forced him out of the team. So far its job done for Newnes, he was a slow starter but added some goals to his game which has made him handy.
My son inlaw to be is a mad Saints fan and wasnt a fan of Newnes but said the one thing he does do well is kick goals from set shots as he has a decent kicking action.

Good stuff. The positive in Newnes' game -- even before the winning goal last game -- is his ability to drift forward and kick goals. When he drifts into defence he's a liability, on the wing he's serviceable. Another plus is that he seems to be popular amongst the boys. However, the time will come, hopefully sooner rather than later, that he'll be replaced by a youngster who's much better.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #212
As Kruddler said originally, he averaged 20 possies at the Saints and was a consistent performer, he wasnt recruited to
be a star or win games with us just buy some time while the likes of Obrien, Dow, Philp, Ramsay developed and forced him out of the team. So far its job done for Newnes, he was a slow starter but added some goals to his game which has made him handy.
My son inlaw to be is a mad Saints fan and wasnt a fan of Newnes but said the one thing he does do well is kick goals from set shots as he has a decent kicking action.

Initially he was more of a midfielder.
He was moved more to HFF and thats where his goal kicking became notable.
We appear to be playing him as a winger with a license to drift forward....and its working. He's hitting the scoreboard.

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #213
As Kruddler said originally, he averaged 20 possies at the Saints and was a consistent performer, he wasnt recruited to
be a star or win games with us just buy some time while the likes of Obrien, Dow, Philp, Ramsay developed and forced him out of the team. So far its job done for Newnes, he was a slow starter but added some goals to his game which has made him handy.
My son inlaw to be is a mad Saints fan and wasnt a fan of Newnes but said the one thing he does do well is kick goals from set shots as he has a decent kicking action.
He's been ok without setting the world on fire. 9 goals from 11 games is ok for a Carlton player, a tad over 11 disposals a game is below average I'm guessing for a player of his experience and the position/role he plays. 12 disposals and 1 goal like he did v Freo wouldnt cut it for very long, he did however lay 8 tackles which I like. His goal was the match winner and may have saved him for another week. I am abit meh towards him if I'm being honest.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #214
Initially he was more of a midfielder.
He was moved more to HFF and thats where his goal kicking became notable.
We appear to be playing him as a winger with a license to drift forward....and its working. He's hitting the scoreboard.

Re: Newnes
There's reason for a tad of optimism there.
Identifying a players strengths and weaknesses, then playing him to team advantage. I recall many posts suggesting we've done quite the opposite in past years.
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #215
Re: Newnes
There's reason for a tad of optimism there.
Identifying a players strengths and weaknesses, then playing him to team advantage. I recall many posts suggesting we've done quite the opposite in past years.

The above was how the saints used him.
We are just copying them. ;)

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #216
Interesting stats, we certainly up the ante after qtr time
CARLTON'S REVIVAL
                                                   Q1   Q2-Q4
Disposal diff                             -18   +30
Contested possession diff      -5   +23
Ground ball diff                         -4   +25
Inside 50 diff                              -11   +10
Scoreboard diff                           -19   +23
Point from turnover diff             -13   +14

Looked like one of our wonderful first qtrs we've been known and loved for...lol.

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #217
Looked like one of our wonderful first qtrs we've been known and loved for...lol.
Yes, but to their credit, they adjusted and got on top of the Dockers for 3 qtrs. We just couldnt score...again. Which raises another point, I have heard a guy called Craig Jennings a few times on SEN who comes on and gives his 10 cents worth a "Strategy Coach". Very good to listen to and he was saying how the Accuracy in front of goal is factor numero uno for success in shortened games and seasons. We are a repeat offenders with this, some of our misses are unforgivable and are resulting in losses which will bite us on the ass.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #218
Same, we were watching it and my daughter says "Do you reckon he'll kick it" to which I replied "not a hope in hell, we dont pinch games after the siren". Happy to be proven wrong, best win in a very long time.

Easy peasy! I would've turned around, done a check side drop kick over my head between the two big sticks with my eyes shut, post high, and while tangled in all those cables. Newnes effort was just basic...lol!!!

Anyone believe me?

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #219
Easy peasy! I would've turned around, done a check side drop kick over my head between the two big sticks with my eyes shut, post high, and while tangled in all those cables. Newnes effort was just basic...lol!!!

Anyone believe me?
Ummm, with all due respect, no. ;D  ;D
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #220
The above was how the saints used him.
We are just copying them. ;)
Didn't I read one of his early interviews that stated one of the reasons for coming to us was because the Aints pigeon-holed him as a small defender(HBF/BP) and he wanted to spend more time forward?
The Force Awakens!

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #221
Didn't I read one of his early interviews that stated one of the reasons for coming to us was because the Aints pigeon-holed him as a small defender(HBF/BP) and he wanted to spend more time forward?
Reckon I read that also.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #222
Reckon I read that also.

Me too!

Newnes didn’t want to be a HBF.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #223
Didn't I read one of his early interviews that stated one of the reasons for coming to us was because the Aints pigeon-holed him as a small defender(HBF/BP) and he wanted to spend more time forward?

They moved him forward....he got injured....they tried to 'rebadge him' because they had enough forwards and he thought it best to reinvigorate his career elsewhere. (Think Laidler)

 

Re: Post Game Permutation: AFL Rd 12: Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #224
They moved him forward....he got injured....they tried to 'rebadge him' because they had enough forwards and he thought it best to reinvigorate his career elsewhere. (Think Laidler)
He started off as a HBF, he was considered too small/light to be a midfielder alongside Montagna, Geary, Hayes, Fisher, etc., etc.., so they played him in a Simmo type role. Until about 2016 they split his time between the HBF and the Wing, it was 2017 when they put him in the leadership group that he got his desire to run regularly in the midfield. But he was still squarely known by Aints fans as a wingman until the day he left!

Right up to the point he requested a trade it was reported that "Wingman Jack Newnes had been left out of the 2020 leadership group!"
The Force Awakens!