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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Murphy Growing Into Leadership Role - AGE
No matter which way you slice it, Murphy tackles more than campo ever did and IMO is a lot tougher than campo ever was.

LMFAO. Murphy isn't tough, full stop. Let's not kid ourselves here.

Never said he was. Just pointing out that he is tougher than Braddles and Campo....both of which you admire and gave a pass mark to when playing similar roles.

That's opinion, far from fact.

Closer to any 'facts' you have pointed out.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Murphy Growing Into Leadership Role - AGE
No matter which way you slice it, Murphy tackles more than campo ever did and IMO is a lot tougher than campo ever was.

LMFAO. Murphy isn't tough, full stop. Let's not kid ourselves here.

Never said he was. Just pointing out that he is tougher than Braddles and Campo....both of which you admire and gave a pass mark to when playing similar roles.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Murphy Growing Into Leadership Role - AGE
@kruddler

He was told by Ratts to go on and win his own ball just prior to that shoulder injury, so obviously Ratts had the same opinion as I did. He was obviously upset by the comment so he went in hard, I'll give him that but it just goes to show he doesn't know how to win the hardball, every time he tries he gets injured. As I said previously, I accept he's not that type of player but to allow opposition to just walk through his tackles or to go through entire games without a solitary tackle ( happened many times last season, most notably against Sydney in the final) is just unacceptable for a captain playing as a midfielder in the heat of the action. In fact it's quite mindblowing TBH. A that it happened and B that no one seems to think it's an issue. Perfect example of my point where Murphy just gets a free pass from most.

Re Campo those stats are from his Scum days where he played with little to no passion and was far past his best are they not? Not really apples with apples is it? Not like you to mislead with stats is it?! :P

Your 'OBVIOUS' calls are nothing but opinion.

But if true, if he doesn't know how to win the hard ball, why force him too if he is just going to get injured? Yarran is obviously too short to play ruck, so you don't make him.

As for the stats, they are there for all to see. If you wanna twist them to give campo a reprieve (not like you at all to twist things to suit your opinion at all  :P) then you will...and did.

FYI, Campos 2006 was actually his 2nd best tackles/game over his 13 season career!  :-[
2004 was his best, 3.36.
Murphy has averaged better than that 6 times in 9 seasons.

No matter which way you slice it, Murphy tackles more than campo ever did and IMO is a lot tougher than campo ever was.

I know Murphy isn't opposed to throwing the head back, but he is third behind campo and daylight in that area too.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Stick Your Neck Out
- Watson to cement himself at CHB allowing Henderson to become our leading goalkicker.
- Cripps to earn our first rising star nomination in years and play 10+ games
- Carrazzo to announce his retirement before the end of the season after being plagued by constant injuries
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Murphy Growing Into Leadership Role - AGE
But both went when it was their turn.

One of my favourite aspects of Campo's game was his willingness to run down opponents. It's almost like he got some sort of perverse satisfaction out of it. He used to chase and tackle with real intent.

Bradley my memory has faded with regards to his defensive side but I remember in his final year when we were getting smacked and had no ball winners he was in there winning the hard ball at the ripe old age of 37(?). Played through a wet day with broken ribs.

Murph is a brilliant footballer. If he could improve on his weaknesses he could be one of our best ever. It'll be a shame if we never see it.

I can't help but think you have let the years of time muddy your memories.

Before you brought it up i was actually going to say one of the few times i remember Bradley going for the ball was when he got broken ribs out of it.

A few stats, Murphy (588 / 165) has more career tackles than both Braddles (546 / 375) and Campo (484 / 252)

Yes, there are more stoppages nowadays so tackle numbers are inflated.

So lets compare apples with apples.
Between 2006 and 2007 Murphy played 35 games and managed 96 tackles. Avg 2.60/game
Between 2006 and 2007 Campo played 19 games and managed 46 tackles. Avg 2.42/game

Murphy as a teenager tackled more than the veteran Campo over the same period of time.

FWIW, Murphy now averages 3.56 tackles a game.

As for going when its their turn....
How about Murphy going in against the lions and doing his shoulder in his first season?

Or more recently....


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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Murphy Growing Into Leadership Role - AGE
He needs to lead by example out on the field.

Most grow into the leadership role.
Marc just needs to lift his consistency and win the ball at every contest, every week and the rest will follow.

I've come to the realisation he's not ever going to win the hard ball, I just want him to at least chase and tackle with intent, he must lead the way in this department if he's going to a great leader. I remember a game against North last year where he really made one stick early in the game which resulted in a goal. No doubt it lifted the side. Then I've just seen him let players walk through his tackles only to see Menzel make it stick against the same player just minutes later. That type of stuff is unacceptable. No doubt he's well liked and respected within the club. Time to make use of the influence he has over his team.

See, i don't get this coming from you.

I used to be critical of 2 of your favourite players for doing the exact same thing. One, a former captain and both former B+F winners. Both were not known for getting the hard ball and were very much receivers. Both would have less tackling ability than our current captain. You support them and chastise Murph?

FYI, Bradley and Campo.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Best 18 - AFL
B:             Patfull    Thompson      H Shaw   
HB:           Hibberd   Taylor           McVeigh
C:             Jones       Ablett           Steven       
HF:          Wingard   Kennedy       Dangerfield
FF:            Walters   Roughead       Betts
   
Foll: Minson Cotchin Pendlebury

I know it's tough to get your head around, but Betts is no longer a Carlton boy...so you've got 2 crows in that side and 0 carlton.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Yarran to jog in GF Sprint
Russell wasn't elite. Elite is a status earned over a number of years of consistently performing to the highest standards, especially when it matters most. Russell did it for one season.

No it's not, you can most certainly be elite one year and not the next. He was certainly elite in the second half of 2009 (most B & F votes) and for the entire 2010 season.

I disagree. I don't think you can be elite 1 year and below average for a large chunk of your career.

Can you be elite for half a year? A month? 1 game? 1 quarter?? Where is the boundary.

No doubt JR played well and was very valuable to our side in that year. Was woewodin an elite footballer? No. Did he have a good year? Yes. Ditto JR.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Best 18 - AFL
FB  Frawley    Lake       Enright
HB Goddard Henderson Deledio
C   Griffen    Ablett        Wells
HF   Boak  N. Riewoldt    Fyfe
FF   Betts    Cameron    Rockliff
R    Cox    Pendlebury  J.Kennedy

I tried picking this almost on reverse ladder order.

Pick the best players from the crap teams, and then fill the blanks with the best teams. Seems to have worked well.

Here is the order i worked with, and associated player.
GWS - Cameron
GC - Ablett
STK - Riewoldt
MELB - Frawley
WB - Griffen
NM - Wells
PA - Boak
ADE - Betts
BRIS - Rockliff
WC - Cox
FREO - Fyfe
SYD - J.Kennedy
RICH - Deledio
ESS - Goddard
CARL - Henderson
GEEL - Enright
COLL - Pendlebury
HAW - Lake
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Foxtel Problem
;D

Ringed them up before and they're sending a bloke out tomorrow. Might try the half price trick later.  ;D 

And thank you everyone for the comforting words during such a time of crisis.

If it is the box that has blown up they should replace it for free.

Also tell them that you were without foxtel for a few days...a week and they will credit your account too.

I had a box crap itself on me. Lost all my saved stuff. Replaced it for free, with a box with a bigger hard drive, and credited me a weeks worth for the down time.
:D