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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by LoveNavy -
Quote from: pew2 – on
when the opposition starts to RUN and SPREAD our slow players cannot match or rise to this level , so thks to sos and now Austin we are in the same position as all the other years and it vey disappointing and sad . I don't care about Coleman medalist or any other medal , i care about a successful game plan / system  and we haven't got one for the last 2 yrs.

Did you mean the last 20 years?
That would be closer to the duration we've simply been inept. Aside the odd cameo. The ineptitude appears to be across the entire organisation in more or lesser proportions.

Fans are fed up.

The solution is simple. Albeit extremely unlikely. Win.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: Slowhand – on
Hoping Mr Cook is all over it. We have to back him in. interesting to hear him on 3AW last night. Absolutely no panic, we will bounce back. Wright is working with Cook 3 days a week. Surely
between the two of them they can spot the obvious.

Have faith. I turn 65 tomorrow and was hoping for a great present last night.
Guess I'll just have to watch the 95 Grand Final again......

Happy birthday for tomorrow, SH... enjoy a nice red, or three. Maybe watch the Magoos tomorrow night and see some bright lights for our future.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Slowhand -
Hoping Mr Cook is all over it. We have to back him in. interesting to hear him on 3AW last night. Absolutely no panic, we will bounce back. Wright is working with Cook 3 days a week. Surely
between the two of them they can spot the obvious.

Have faith. I turn 65 tomorrow and was hoping for a great present last night.
Guess I'll just have to watch the 95 Grand Final again......
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: PaulP – on
I would suggest that our issues are meta and go well beyond personnel. We have turned over more than any other club in the last 20 odd years, and no group of individuals has made much of a dent, although some have been more successful than others. The club as an abstract entity seems to be in a kind of paralysis or fug, and IMO no amount of personnel change will help. The land is barren, and no amount of hole digging, changing the shape of the hole, using different implements to dig etc., will change that. There's something fundamental about "being Carlton" that needs to change.

100%, Pauly. Just exactly what is our identity? Fckd if I know.

I know our social responsibility section is exemplary. Our community engagement with important issues is to be applauded.

But our on field brand? Cynically... inconsistency. Hey, we do inconsistency with aplomb.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 4 2025 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Baggers -
Quote from: rocky – on
Pretty much covered by everyone so nothing really to add. I do think that those critical of Ollie need to re-watch the game. Thought he was one of the few that gave it all for 4 quarters, AND he kicked 2 goals. A 3rd of our goals. George also kicked another 3rd (as I have suggested previously I believe Kennedy's departure is the catalyst for this) and was once again one of our best.
Positives
Thought Walsh was a lot better and easily his best for the year.
Saad had a good one too. One of the few who knew how to play the wet weather.
I'm hoping the "brains trust" thought Lord did enough to retain his spot.
Busted their nuts : TDK, Cripps, Jack, Weiters
Honest: Cerra, White, Williams
Negatives
Everything everyone else has said.
Doc and Acres getting plenty of the ball but having zero impact and taking the wrong options.
I'm 65 this year and I have serious doubts I'll ever see another flag.

Totally agree.

But, holy mackerel there are some panic buttons being pushed (not you)... the roof of PP hasn't caved in and it's not round 22 and we're sitting on the bottom.

However, there are alarm bells and red flags, but the season is NOT lost. And many of us hope... nup, demand from our club DO NOT repeat the sins of the past and go hunting for a scapegoat, especially NOT the senior coach (no, I don't know Vossy and am not a buddy of anyone at the club).

By all means put the focus on the footy department. Time for those at Board level/CEO to put a relentless lens of focus on the footy department and entire coaching group. There ARE problems that are weakening our unity and collective goals. We likely only need to tweak and perhaps make a couple of personnel changes... but we must find the weak link(s) and non-hackers. There might be a few on field, but I bet with great confidence that there are a few in the footy department.