Poll
Question:
Who were your top 3, BEST on ground?
Option 1: 1 - Walker
votes: 0
Option 2: 2 - Menzel
votes: 16
Option 3: 3 - Murphy
votes: 11
Option 4: 4 - Gibbs
votes: 31
Option 5: 6 - Simpson
votes: 17
Option 6: 7 - Buckley
votes: 3
Option 7: 11 - Warnock
votes: 0
Option 8: 12 - Robinson
votes: 0
Option 9: 13 - Yarran
votes: 31
Option 10: 14 - McLean
votes: 2
Option 11: 15 - Docherty
votes: 2
Option 12: 17 - Rowe
votes: 6
Option 13: 23 - Henderson
votes: 0
Option 14: 27 - Armfield
votes: 0
Option 15: 33 - Everitt
votes: 1
Option 16: 38 - Garlett (Started sub)
votes: 0
Option 17: 39 - Thomas
votes: 0
Option 18: 40 - Jamison
votes: 0
Option 19: 41 - Casboult
votes: 0
Option 20: 42 - Tuohy
votes: 0
Option 21: 43 - White
votes: 0
Option 22: 46 - Ellard (subbed off)
votes: 0
Who took the chocolates this week? Name your 3 best.
Hard week to narrow it down to the 3.
I went with...
Bryce Gibbs who had plenty of it, 38 touches in fact. Best part about that was that he had a game-high 17 contested, which included a team high 8 clearances. Has Bryce found his mojo?
Next player has gotta be putting his hand up for most improved this season and is fast becoming a barometer for this club - Chris Yarran. He is showing confidence and displaying effort. The result, he can break the game open and make the opposition look silly. 4 goals a great return.
Finally, a tough call, but i'm happy with it. Took out the oppositions best player when it appeared he was becoming a problem. Sam Rowe was moved onto Riewoldt after he was towelling up Jamison early. Only had 1 goal kicked against him in the 3 quarters he played on him and that was a huge reason we were able to pull away and continue to dominate in the second quarter. Riewoldts last 2 goals were on Walker i believe.
Gibbs
Yarran
Simpson (He was very good early)
Gibbs
Yarran
Menzel
Yarran outstanding, Gibbs very hard at it tonight, and Simmo yet again great across our HB line. Simmo did make a couple of blues but his other work outweighed that for me.
Gibbs
Simpson (few blunders though)
Robinson (one of only two 4/4 players)
Gibbs
Yazz
Menzel
Alternatively for supreme effort.
Docherty
Rowe
Levi.
Gibbs, Yarran and Murphy for me but Rowe wasn't that far off.
Yaz, Rowe and Menzel, and I wasn't too unhappy with White tonight.
I had:
Gibbs - simply awesome in every way last night. Needed to beat up on the Saints mids and did it in style. Inside, outside, didn't matter, head was over the ball constantly. If he could reproduce that at 500k we got ourselves a bargain!
Yarran - In and out of the game but made it count when he go it.
Murphy - Really liked the way he went about it, seemed to play with a lot more confidence, perhaps a by product of three consistent games. Benefited immensely from Gibbs' inside work, would love to see how many handball receives he got from the great man but worked really hard and actually looked quite strong out there. It was however men against boys but the Gibbs/Murphy combo operated really well last night.
Finally, a tough call, but i'm happy with it. Took out the oppositions best player when it appeared he was becoming a problem. Sam Rowe was moved onto Riewoldt after he was towelling up Jamison early. Only had 1 goal kicked against him in the 3 quarters he played on him and that was a huge reason we were able to pull away and continue to dominate in the second quarter. Riewoldts last 2 goals were on Walker i believe.
May have had something to do with the fact that Reiwoldt didn't know where he was.
May have had something to do with the fact that Reiwoldt didn't know where he was.
Like that GF day in the goal square! ;)
Riewoldt, a great athlete but a pea heart!
Murphy, Gibbs and Simpson for me, they gave the rest of the team so much ball that they could not fail, and they mopped up a bag full of errors from others at the same time!
Finally, a tough call, but i'm happy with it. Took out the oppositions best player when it appeared he was becoming a problem. Sam Rowe was moved onto Riewoldt after he was towelling up Jamison early. Only had 1 goal kicked against him in the 3 quarters he played on him and that was a huge reason we were able to pull away and continue to dominate in the second quarter. Riewoldts last 2 goals were on Walker i believe.
May have had something to do with the fact that Reiwoldt didn't know where he was.
That didn't happen until the 3rd quarter i believe. Rowe had a game high 9 1%ers which usually translates to spoils for a backman.
Whether Roo felt the effects of the hit for a long time afterwards didn't stop him kicking goals on Walker in the last.
Credit where credit is due. Rowe has performed above expectations playing down back and is doing a role on some of the best.
Jamison and Rowe swapped on Reiwoldt about 3 or 4 times a 1/4.. Walker and White also had stints on him..
Nicks first two goals both were on Jammo from memory...
Finally, a tough call, but i'm happy with it. Took out the oppositions best player when it appeared he was becoming a problem. Sam Rowe was moved onto Riewoldt after he was towelling up Jamison early. Only had 1 goal kicked against him in the 3 quarters he played on him and that was a huge reason we were able to pull away and continue to dominate in the second quarter. Riewoldts last 2 goals were on Walker i believe.
May have had something to do with the fact that Reiwoldt didn't know where he was.
That didn't happen until the 3rd quarter i believe. Rowe had a game high 9 1%ers which usually translates to spoils for a backman.
Whether Roo felt the effects of the hit for a long time afterwards didn't stop him kicking goals on Walker in the last.
Credit where credit is due. Rowe has performed above expectations playing down back and is doing a role on some of the best.
Good Call Krudds.
One thing that stood out with Rowe is the last few weeks he has just got it under pressure and kicked it, usually to watch it sail back over his head.
A few times last night, he got it and stopped to think, usually making a good decision or good kick. That itself showed an improvement in his game.
Finally, a tough call, but i'm happy with it. Took out the oppositions best player when it appeared he was becoming a problem. Sam Rowe was moved onto Riewoldt after he was towelling up Jamison early. Only had 1 goal kicked against him in the 3 quarters he played on him and that was a huge reason we were able to pull away and continue to dominate in the second quarter. Riewoldts last 2 goals were on Walker i believe.
May have had something to do with the fact that Reiwoldt didn't know where he was.
That didn't happen until the 3rd quarter i believe. Rowe had a game high 9 1%ers which usually translates to spoils for a backman.
Whether Roo felt the effects of the hit for a long time afterwards didn't stop him kicking goals on Walker in the last.
Credit where credit is due. Rowe has performed above expectations playing down back and is doing a role on some of the best.
He's now sailed past Watson. Nice to get a real McCoy pleasant surprise. Keep up the good work, Rowey.
How good is it to have a guy that you can park on an opposition forward knowing that tthey are an even money bet to keep him quiet?
3 4 and 6 with honourable mention to 13
How good is it to have a guy that you can park on an opposition forward knowing that tthey are an even money bet to keep him quiet?
Just so I can get my head around this, exactly who has Rowe beaten this year? I know he played on Reiwoldt once he was semi-conscious but other than that? Keep in mind I missed the Eagles game.
How good is it to have a guy that you can park on an opposition forward knowing that tthey are an even money bet to keep him quiet?
Just so I can get my head around this, exactly who has Rowe beaten this year? I know he played on Reiwoldt once he was semi-conscious but other than that? Keep in mind I missed the Eagles game.
Objection your honour.... He passed the concussion test.. ;)
How good is it to have a guy that you can park on an opposition forward knowing that tthey are an even money bet to keep him quiet?
Just so I can get my head around this, exactly who has Rowe beaten this year? I know he played on Reiwoldt once he was semi-conscious but other than that? Keep in mind I missed the Eagles game.
Objection your honour.... He passed the concussion test.. ;)
Passed or passed on? :))
Gibbs
Yarran
Rowe
Apologies to Kade Simpson...
Rowe did well, Reiwoldt's concussion was all in his head and there is nothing to damage there! ;D
Watching the replay it appears we rotated Jammo, Walker and Rowe off Riewoldt with Jammo getting the hard yards at the start of each quarter. Walker and Rowe followed, Walker was out of his depth(size) but Rowe did quite well.
I know it was Jamo inside 50m and Walker outside 50m for the first half (which I think was good coaching). I only saw Rowe on him after the concussion though.
In all 1/4's Jamo and Rowe rotated onto him about 3 or 4 times each.. White and Walker both got brief stints..
How good is it to have a guy that you can park on an opposition forward knowing that tthey are an even money bet to keep him quiet?
Just so I can get my head around this, exactly who has Rowe beaten this year? I know he played on Reiwoldt once he was semi-conscious but other than that? Keep in mind I missed the Eagles game.
Rowe has had a good season so far.
He may not have beaten his opponent in the definition of stopping them completely from having an impact, but I cannot think of tall forward who has really worked him over and kicked multiple goals on him.
Can you?
Even in our worst loss for the year, the Bombers talls only kicked a goal a piece with Winderlich doing most of the damage.
I thought Rowe did quite well against Cloke given just how much defending we were doing in that match. The West Coast game was probably his best. Pity you missed it.
I personally think he's a bottom four team's defender, and that's about how we're performing.
I personally think he's a bottom four team's defender, and that's about how we're performing.
That's our whole back line!
That may very well be the case, particularly when you consider where he has come from to where he is now.
I still appreciate his efforts. They are that much more admirable when you consider his history compared to what he is currently producing. Some of his spoils have been through strength determination and workrate and nothing else. I find it hard to knock a bloke doing his job, and doing it well.
Its also worth noting that he is harder than 90% of our team too.
When you consider his output, its also worth thinking about how often we have had someone else to partner Jamison over the years (aside from Henderson) who actually looks capable of stopping someone. Rowe is achieving that. Its a telling statistic that although we got creamed against both Collingwood and Essendon their key forwards didnt really get off the leash.
Fair enough, like I said, I haven't seen it but that said, I only had him in our worst players once this year.
Its also worth noting that he is harder than 90% of our team too.
Certainly, harder and more mongrel as well!
Give me more of it I say, we need an enforcer and if he gets confidence look out!
Just when things start going good for Rowe MM will drop him for Bootsma, I just waiting for it to happen, you know it will!
Fair enough, like I said, I haven't seen it but that said, I only had him in our worst players once this year.
The bloke has ticker, and a lot of mongrel and is a big unit. Seems to read the play pretty well too and far more agile than many his size (198 from memory?)
Oh yeah, has played a total of
17 senior AFL games.
And you bag him out PI2C. That's BS. ;)
WTF where have I bagged him out? I just said I don't think he's up to it. He is 26+ remember and has played 17 games? There's a reason for that.
WTF where have I bagged him out? I just said I don't think he's up to it. He is 26+ remember and has played 17 games? There's a reason for that.
Yeah, it took him a while to become committed to the lifestyle of an AFL footballer.
Oh...and that cancer thing didn't help either.
Was he even getting a regular game prior to that? I don't think he'd cemented his spot.
Was he even getting a regular game prior to that? I don't think he'd cemented his spot.
It happened at the start of the season, he was yet to debut.
Ahh fair enough, well regardless, not knocking the bloke or what he's overcome, just don't think hes the future. If we're 'regenerating' the list as MM said, we need to do it properly.
I don't mind Rowe, he's not the most talented but he's taking his opportunity with both hands and gives his all.happy to have a couple of foot soldier to for others to appreciate how hard it is, and they should work harder to get the most out their talent.
Ahh fair enough, well regardless, not knocking the bloke or what he's overcome, just don't think hes the future. If we're 'regenerating' the list as MM said, we need to do it properly.
You would be fine with him playing Bootsma or Watson instead?
Definitely Watson we just signed him for two years so this will be what his fourth or fifth year sitting in the twos? Guy played a decent game first up, got dropped and that's it again.
I don't mind Rowe, he's not the most talented but he's taking his opportunity with both hands and gives his all.happy to have a couple of foot soldier to for others to appreciate how hard it is, and they should work harder to get the most out their talent.
I am with you ,he is getting better in every game he plays,I am thrilled for him and he appears to be a top guy. :)
Definitely Watson we just signed him for two years so this will be what his fourth or fifth year sitting in the twos? Guy played a decent game first up, got dropped and that's it again.
The thing I noticed with Watson is something I also noticed with Nick Stevens way back.. They both seemed to play very well in the pre season and very early on, then thats about it... For Stevens it seemed he'd go well early because no one was at full fitness, but once everyone started to run into match fitness, then he got left for dead...
I watched Watson blitz in the intra club matches and some pre season games he played last year and this year.. But it doesn't really transfer over to home and away season for him which is a shame..
Maybe just maybe, mick wants him to develop properly in the reserves so he doesn't lose confidence, whilst in the mean time he plays White and Rowe and the like. From all reports though, he isn't actually doing much in the reserves to earn his spot back.. He aint quick, he aint overly tall, he aint overly big (head excluded) and he's not the smartest footballer.. All these things make him in between everything when it comes to playing down back.. His best asset is his big roost. But at the moment it doesn't outweigh his deficiencies..
re:Rowe..becoming a bit of a cult hero with those defensive spoils...the fans are really warming to him and for a player who was maligned
he is now a favorite son...
re:Rowe..becoming a bit of a cult hero with those defensive spoils...the fans are really warming to him and for a player who was maligned
he is now a favorite son...
He shows improvement, commitment and emotion, that is all we want and it stands out against our generally beige crew!
re:Rowe..becoming a bit of a cult hero with those defensive spoils...the fans are really warming to him and for a player who was maligned
he is now a favorite son...
He shows improvement, commitment and emotion, that is all we want and it stands out against out generally beige crew!
Thats its it LP....he tries his best each week and his application to his work is better than more talented players.....
Watson could learn something about application and mental strength from Rowe....
Never seen a more ready made player than Watson in terms of physicial development which is what makes him so dissapointing.....built like Tarzan but plays like Jane.
Rowe punches the ball for a rushed behind or out of bounds with intent!!!
Definitely Watson we just signed him for two years so this will be what his fourth or fifth year sitting in the twos? Guy played a decent game first up, got dropped and that's it again.
You'd prefer Watson to Rowe!
Turnips... what are you smoking Old Son?
For one thing, Rowe does this real novel thing that Watson can't... move. ;)
Definitely Watson we just signed him for two years so this will be what his fourth or fifth year sitting in the twos? Guy played a decent game first up, got dropped and that's it again.
You'd prefer Watson to Rowe!
Turnips... what are you smoking Old Son?
For one thing, Rowe does this real novel thing that Watson can't... move. ;)
Look, as I said, I haven't seen it with Rowe at all, he looked hopeless with ball in hand against Collingwood two weeks ago, now we have a win against pretty much the worst side in the comp and he's flavour of the month! As I mentioned, I didn't see the WCE game so I'm tipping he played a blinder against them to be getting all this love and good on him. I'm not going to join in the chorus if I don't see things the same way. Watson = potential future. Rowe = stop fill gap. Malthouse = 'rebuild'. You do the math.
I see Rowe as a respectable stop gap type who'll do OK until the real thing comes along. Who knows, he may even keep improving and become the real thing himself, that would be great.
Watson still has a long way to go from what I've seen, exceedingly slow to the ball. He's on limited time I think and has to show some improvement by year end or risk being delisted or traded.
Definitely Watson we just signed him for two years so this will be what his fourth or fifth year sitting in the twos? Guy played a decent game first up, got dropped and that's it again.
You'd prefer Watson to Rowe!
Turnips... what are you smoking Old Son?
For one thing, Rowe does this real novel thing that Watson can't... move. ;)
Look, as I said, I haven't seen it with Rowe at all, he looked hopeless with ball in hand against Collingwood two weeks ago, now we have a win against pretty much the worst side in the comp and he's flavour of the month! As I mentioned, I didn't see the WCE game so I'm tipping he played a blinder against them to be getting all this love and good on him. I'm not going to join in the chorus if I don't see things the same way. Watson = potential future. Rowe = stop fill gap. Malthouse = 'rebuild'. You do the math.
Rowe = providing competition for spots.
Stop gap or not.
Indictment on Watson if Rowe is keeping him out of the side, yet kudos for Rowe for taking on the challenge with both hands and nailing down the spot.