1520 Sunday at the MCG.
10 day break for the lads well deserved.
Cupboard is still bare with talls - Motlop and Carroll are fantastic youngsters that will probably make way for Martin and Newnes
10 day break for the lads well deserved.
Cupboard is still bare with talls - Motlop and Carroll are fantastic youngsters that will probably make way for Martin and Newnes
Don't agree on Martin. I think he needs to build some form via the VFL, and Motlop has been more than useful in his two games.
Martin should not displace anyone from the side that has won 4 in a row.
Carroll did a few very influential things and should retain his place, Cottrell LoB have all worked hard and are giving effort, I can't see anyone walking in to the side.
Flying over from WA for this one and have a ticket at the G....somewhere down in the Punt Road end. Can you blokes do something about the weather?
Can't wait to be at this one. Win this then a bye and then Bombers. By then we might be getting close to getting some talls back into the side?
Flying over from WA for this one and have a ticket at the G....somewhere down in the Punt Road end. Can you blokes do something about the weather?
Can't wait to be at this one. Win this then a bye and then Bombers. By then we might be getting close to getting some talls back into the side?
I read somewhere Pitto and H will be back for Freo.
Carroll did a few very influential things and should retain his place, Cottrell LoB have all worked hard and are giving effort, I can't see anyone walking in to the side.
Agree with that LP.
Williamson’s performance in the VFL, on the wing I believe, might see a tussle for spots.
Pies slogged out a great win in the wet against Freo. They laid 80 tackles and lost big Cox with a finger injury.
That’s the upside if you’re a Pies fan. Hopefully it offers a little upside if you’re a Blues fan.
Go Blues
Pies are very workmanlike and have some good contested players but dont have the finishing class and like to turn games into slogfests where they scrap and claw the ball forward. I think they will be competitive for a period then drop off and we should have a 5-6 goal win. The wet Freo conditions suited the Pies style and you can argue we couldnt beat Freo, but Imho we are a class above Collingwood and should give them a good reaming..
We'll be up for it.
Pies are very workmanlike and have some good contested players but dont have the finishing class and like to turn games into slogfests where they scrap and claw the ball forward. I think they will be competitive for a period then drop off and we should have a 5-6 goal win. The wet Freo conditions suited the Pies style and you can argue we couldnt beat Freo, but Imho we are a class above Collingwood and should give them a good reaming..
I hope so. They are a freak show. Their best is amazing. Their normal play can be pulled apart. They are that unpredictable side that can do lots or nothing. All depending on the day. I hope we are more stable than that. I also wish we had far less injuries in our squad. I hope it doesn’t come back to bite us on the arse. We have done so well with a depleted depth.
Agree with that LP.
Williamson’s performance in the VFL, on the wing I believe, might see a tussle for spots.
Willo would want to be able to do some serious 4 qtr running to displace Cotts, LOB or even Carroll.
I hope so. They are a freak show. Their best is amazing. Their normal play can be pulled apart. They are that unpredictable side that can do lots or nothing. All depending on the day. I hope we are more stable than that. I also wish we had far less injuries in our squad. I hope it doesn’t come back to bite us on the arse. We have done so well with a depleted depth.
Voss v Fly, battle of the mates, be interesting battle of the coaches boxes with ex Blues coach Bolts in there as well. One of those games where we don't have any intel on them (or them on us). Against the Swans, we had George and Newmy who them well. Would be very nice and wonderful for our confidence growth to win this and go into the bye 9-2.
Fun Fact: Last time we won 5 in a row? 2000 which was quite a streak of 13 in a row. Replicate that these days and we are winning flags.
Heard Pendlebury on the radio this morning.
Talked about how gastro (or flu or something similar) has gone right through the club over the last 2-3 weeks. Thats why he was a late out against the dogs in R8.
He says its finally back to normal and everyone is back to full fitness.
So we need to realise that their form of late has not been a true reflection of their talent and they should not be taken lightly.
Heard Pendlebury on the radio this morning.
Talked about how gastro (or flu or something similar) has gone right through the club over the last 2-3 weeks. Thats why he was a late out against the dogs in R8.
He says its finally back to normal and everyone is back to full fitness.
So we need to realise that their form of late has not been a true reflection of their talent and they should not be taken lightly.
They will probably have heavy legs after that slog yesterday.
But Collingwood always get up and about for these big games, and I am worried that we are due for a downer after a big month.
They were superb here in the wet yesterday....hopefully the travel and slog in the wet takes a toll.
With Cox injured, they might just go with the Cameron ruck and a smaller bloke helping out in much the same way we've done with Silvagni.
It won't get any easier for Charlie with both Moore and Howe down back but hopefully our smaller/medium forwards can get it done again.
Moore will be a good matchup for Charlie given his size and our other forwards in our smalls will have to hit the scoreboard a bit more this week.
Can see Weitering being dragged out of play this week given his brilliant form and the emphasis will be to stop him marking everything and make him work more up the ground.
Degoey and Elliott always make me nervous as they are hard matchups and I hope Stocker gets Ginnivan who is your typical Collingwood smartarse small forward that likes the limelight.
Just brutalise them and make them fear our footsteps - it's perceived pressure and some magnificent ball movement at times thats getting us the wins - it all starts in the middle. Make them fear us after quarter time
Moore will be a good matchup for Charlie given his size and our other forwards in our smalls will have to hit the scoreboard a bit more this week.
Can see Weitering being dragged out of play this week given his brilliant form and the emphasis will be to stop him marking everything and make him work more up the ground.
Degoey and Elliott always make me nervous as they are hard matchups and I hope Stocker gets Ginnivan who is your typical Collingwood smartarse small forward that likes the limelight.
Looks like rain so it will be interesting, not sure who it favours given both sides have pretty active SFs, but The G dries so quickly unless it's game time rain it doesn't really mean much.
On the Charlie v Moore show, if I was Charlie I'd take Moore to the square and make it a wrestle. I think Moore likes to jump at the pill and Charlie will have him covered if it turns into a wrestle. Which means the Filth will have get someone jumping over the top to help out Moore and that leaves another forward free!
If Cox is injured it really helps us, because Young can take the deep marking forward and let Weitering intercept the footy. I've watched Young closely the last two weeks, good closing speed, faster than people think, is getting better and better at pulling the trigger of when to go and when to stay.
On the Charlie v Moore show, if I was Charlie I'd take Moore to the square and make it a wrestle. I think Moore likes to jump at the pill and Charlie will have him covered if it turns into a wrestle. Which means the Filth will have get someone jumping over the top to help out Moore and that leaves another forward free!
Whoever is on Howe (Jack....?) needs to drag him away from Charlie vs Moore. Tom Lynch had a picnic on Moore because he spends too much time looking for intercepts and dashing up field, and not enough time looking after his man. If we can force turnovers as they try to rebound out of 50, Charlie will find himself in the clear regularly.
The Collingwood guys I would target for close attention are Crisp and Adams. This is where most of their drive originates.
Looks like rain so it will be interesting, not sure who it favours given both sides have pretty active SFs, but The G dries so quickly unless it's game time rain it doesn't really mean much.
On the Charlie v Moore show, if I was Charlie I'd take Moore to the square and make it a wrestle. I think Moore likes to jump at the pill and Charlie will have him covered if it turns into a wrestle. Which means the Filth will have get someone jumping over the top to help out Moore and that leaves another forward free!
If Cox is injured it really helps us, because Young can take the deep marking forward and let Weitering intercept the footy. I've watched Young closely the last two weeks, good closing speed, faster than people think, is getting better and better at pulling the trigger of when to go and when to stay.
I think Cox has been a liability for Collingwood and they work better with a smaller lineup and a player like Mihocek playing that unassuming workhorse type FF role where he moves around a lot, brings the ball to ground and contests everything. Cox needs delivery and space and if he isnt marking the ball then he is useless.
I'd be sticking Cottrell on Josh Daicos too as its often his delivery that sets up a lot of Collingwood attacking moves....
Unleash Paddy Wow on the G, I reckon this game is tailor made for him. Come on Vossy, do it son.
Unleash Paddy Wow on the G, I reckon this game is tailor made for him. Come on Vossy, do it son.
At whose expense?
If anyone was coming in it'd be a tall....but we don't have any!
Jack Martin might be available but not sure he forces his way into the side either.
At whose expense?
At the very least Kemp, maybe Carroll?
At the very least Kemp, maybe Carroll?
Paddy for Carroll suits me just fine. Prefer Newnes and Martin though. Hard bodies and professional role players. In Voss I trust
Nup not for me. Carrol has done enough to remain, and if the scribes are to be believed, you can expect to see Williamson before Dow.
I like Dow, I respect him immensely and hope he makes it but the acquisition of Cerra is a tell that he might be the next cab off the rank for a trade particularly with what Carroll has shown he can do.
It makes sense. Hewett and Cerra fill the holes in a way that he cant, which makes him at best a depth option. If he is happy to sit around and wait for a chance, he could be the next Cripps, but he is too good to waste his time in the magoos and we will need to churn through those spots on the list to find room for other players eventually.
If Newnes was really "managed" last week he has to come back in so can't see any changes to the team this week (unless there's a health protocol omission) other than Kemp making way. Which I'm not entirely happy about.
At the very least Kemp, maybe Carroll?
This i don't get.
You want to play a relative kid, Dow, at the expense of actual kids who are still wet behind the ears, and doing nothing really wrong.
Why?
What have we got to gain from this? Ruining the confidence of a kid, who earned their spot for someone who doesn't really fill a need in the 22?
Nup not for me. Carrol has done enough to remain, and if the scribes are to be believed, you can expect to see Williamson before Dow.
I like Dow, I respect him immensely and hope he makes it but the acquisition of Cerra is a tell that he might be the next cab off the rank for a trade particularly with what Carroll has shown he can do.
It makes sense. Hewett and Cerra fill the holes in a way that he cant, which makes him at best a depth option. If he is happy to sit around and wait for a chance, he could be the next Cripps, but he is too good to waste his time in the magoos and we will need to churn through those spots on the list to find room for other players eventually.
Agree on Carroll, good footballer with the right attack on the ball, he stays imo.
The wings have become more important in the modern game and I think Carroll can be a quality player of the future and has more about him than Dow at this stage.
It was interesting watching Dow in the VFL. He won plenty of the ball and kicked two nice goals early. However, he didn’t do much else and had little influence on the outcome of the game.
He did go forward and took a nice mark on a lead but missed the shot at goal. Unless he develops another dimension to his game, Dow is not going to displace anyone from last game’s 22.
Dow could replace Kemp as the sub but there’s no way Carroll goes out for him.
It was interesting watching Dow in the VFL. He won plenty of the ball and kicked two nice goals early. However, he didn’t do much else and had little influence on the outcome of the game.
He did go forward and took a nice mark on a lead but missed the shot at goal. Unless he develops another dimension to his game, Dow is not going to displace anyone from last game’s 22.
Dow could replace Kemp as the sub but there’s no way Carroll goes out for him.
So no to replacing the Commodore with a Merc?
If it's purely a choice for sub, then Kemp probably gets the nod for no other reason than he could fill a few more different holes than Dow depending on who was getting subbed out. Dow's VFL form has been very consistent but if he's predominantly an inside mid, then he's not getting past the Cripps, Walsh, Kennedy, Hewett, Cerra lineup at the moment.
Apart from some time as a lead up forward, Dow is being used as an inside mid. There’s no wish to change his role and, as Surfy stated, he’s not going to displace any of our five first choice mids. He’s not going to displace the part time mids either, unless he can become a consistent goal kicker and apply defensive pressure.
Kemp wasn’t prominent in the VFL so Dow could get the sub role despite his lack of versatility. However, I suspect that Willo may have done enough to get the gig this Sunday.
If it's purely a choice for sub, then Kemp probably gets the nod for no other reason than he could fill a few more different holes than Dow depending on who was getting subbed out. Dow's VFL form has been very consistent but if he's predominantly an inside mid, then he's not getting past the Cripps, Walsh, Kennedy, Hewett, Cerra lineup at the moment.
A number of clubs are rolling the dice and putting 'pace' in as the medical sub, banking on the fact that they might be able to whip someone off with a bogus injury in the last quarter and replace them with leg speed. When we have a full list available I think Cottrell will find himself with that specialist role, which he fills very well.
Kemp wasn’t prominent in the VFL so Dow could get the sub role despite his lack of versatility. However, I suspect that Willo may have done enough to get the gig this Sunday.
That could be right, but it might be weather dependant.
Dow is interesting, he can win a significant volume of inside footy but that is where it seems to end, it was good to see him score but I can't say his field kicking has improved and he had a couple of Barry Crocker disposals. A he is still not laying many tackles, almost like he has been told not to!
Kemp threw himself around, but didn't get too many good outcomes from his efforts. For me this is a no win situation, he's just not a defender no matter how much people want him to be, his game lifts once he can move forward of centre. But the renaissance of Gov and return of Marchbank might doom Kemp because in the short term both have Kemp comfortably covered for disposal, it all depends on time and outlook.
Some must be on the trade table at seasons end, it's untenable to keep them all, and that may affect this weeks selections as much as any other issue!
we must NOT bomb the ball into f50 they would get back and rebound so quick into coll f50 either degoey or elliot or henry one of those players will play the leading FF with space to lead . We need to hit targets throughout the field that is was tigers did .
we must NOT bomb the ball into f50 they would get back and rebound so quick into coll f50 either degoey or elliot or henry one of those players will play the leading FF with space to lead . We need to hit targets throughout the field that is was tigers did .
Our game plan is largely dependant on bringing small forwards into the game around the ground we consistently outnumber the opposition in post clearance. We dont have any leading forwards.
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Our game plan is largely dependant on bringing small forwards into the game around the ground we consistently outnumber the opposition in post clearance. We dont have any leading forwards.
While bringing the ball to ground is an important part of our game plan, we do have leading forwards and generally manage to honour several leads each game. Harry leads more than most but Charlie, Jack, Durdin and Owies make many leads too. Cripps and Kennedy often lead when playing forward and De Koning kicked a nice goal after leading into the pocket against the Swans.
Our swarming small forwards make the opposition defenders very concerned about the ball going to ground and Charlie (in Harry’s absence) gets plenty of frees for holding in marking contests.
Bombing the ball inside 50 may not work but deep entries to a contest where we have created an extra number will generally create a scoring shot.
Leading forwards are Jack Gunstan and Tim Membrey. Charlie and Harry are stay at home forwards so id TDK when he is forward - Jack is too slow but gets around the ground with smarts.
Travelling over from WA for the game this weekend.....anyone know by chance if there's a training session at Princess Park on Saturday and, if so, time and if it's open to the public?
Collingwood's odd have shortened dramatically - started at $3.30, now into $2.48
Punters' money is often a good indicator of where a match sits - although I am hoping this is just a big bunch of Collingwood fanatics having a tonner on the Pies while they are at the TAB for the greyhound races......
Collingwood's odd have shortened dramatically - started at $3.30, now into $2.48
Punters' money is often a good indicator of where a match sits - although I am hoping this is just a big bunch of Collingwood fanatics having a tonner on the Pies while they are at the TAB for the greyhound races......
The Filth fan base are pretty predictable in their optimism, it doesn't take much for them to become Lemmings that are Leaping, I'd be surprised if Joffa hasn't booked a flight back for the weekend!
The Filth fan base are pretty predictable in their optimism, it doesn't take much for them to become Lemmings that are Leaping, I'd be surprised if Joffa hasn't booked a flight back for the weekend!
Don't think Joffa is will be anywhere near the MCG due to his outstanding unlawful issues that he is facing ATM. Very much person non grata I would say.
Hmm looks like you change your post LP.
Collingwood fans must be working on the simple logic they beat Freo who beat us so that makes them favorites...simple logic for simpletons.
Collingwood fans must be working on the simple logic they beat Freo who beat us so that makes them favorites...simple logic for simpletons.
I said earlier that they have struggled with sickness over the past 2-3 weeks. Only started coming good for last week....results backed this up.
Collingwood should not be underestimated.
We have had 4 wins in a row and are facing more and more injuries.
The bubble is due to burst, and the old enemy would be perfectly placed to do it.
Apparently a few of our boys who played on Friday were sick too.
It's an even comp and almost everyone we have played have had moments against us. Collingwood are a finals contender and I hope we put a dent in their chances.
I said earlier that they have struggled with sickness over the past 2-3 weeks. Only started coming good for last week....results backed this up.
Collingwood should not be underestimated.
We have had 4 wins in a row and are facing more and more injuries.
The bubble is due to burst, and the old enemy would be perfectly placed to do it.
Collingwood are an effort team, we will only lose if we fail to contest properly and match their effort, talent wise they are well short of us IMHO.
Need to over power them in the midfield like we have done all year. This group is pretty well coached we constantly have numbers around the ball and on the spread - that's pretty good. I think we will be too good - Cripps, Walsh, Hewett, Kennedy, Cerra will just bash their mids into oblivion.
Collingwood fans must be working on the simple logic they beat Freo who beat us so that makes them favorites...simple logic for simpletons.
If it were the other way around, I'm sure we would apply similar logic and fancy ourselves. Reality is doesn't matter where these two teams are on the ladder, they set themselves for this game and often its a toss of the coin. We have to play to our best to beat them, they will be brimming with confidence having knocked Freo off on their own dung heap.
I'm sure Vossy will be super keen to win this one and will have us fully prepared and fired up. We must be careful to better pace ourselves to play out 4 Qs and not be run down in the last. Maybe put the ball up our jumpers fo a quarter or two. 😁
Last week, we were coming off a 5-day break from an interstate trip. Our second half looked like it.
This week, it's the Pies coming off a 5-day break from an interstate trip (and a slog in extremely wet conditions).
You would like to think that we should run all over them in the second half this week.
Voss and Power Vs McCrae and Leppa
Yep, there are bragging rights up for grabs here!!
Voss and Power Vs McCrae and Leppa
Yep, there are bragging rights up for grabs here!!
Forgot about Power and Leppa
CARLTON
In: J.Newnes, J.Boyd, P.Dow, J.Martin
Out: B.Kemp (Medi-Sub)
Last week's sub: Brodie Kemp (unused)
Newnes named on the field (and will play) the others are on the bench with the likes of Cottrell, Carroll, Kennedy and Motlop, Plowman.
Someone is going to be stiff to miss out from that bench.
CARLTON
In: J.Newnes, J.Boyd, P.Dow, J.Martin
Out: B.Kemp (Medi-Sub)
Last week's sub: Brodie Kemp (unused)
Newnes named on the field (and will play) the others are on the bench with the likes of Cottrell, Carroll, Kennedy and Motlop, Plowman.
Someone is going to be stiff to miss out from that bench.
I’m a bit surprised that Newnes is back in the 18 but he is a seasoned player with a cool head when it counts.
I think that Kennedy, Cottrell, Plowman and Martin will make up the 22 and Dow will be the sub.
That would be a bit tough for Carroll and Motlop but, with the exception of KPPs and rucks, we have serious competition for a place in the team.
Unless there's an injury we don't know about, I think Motlop might be the unlucky one. Caroll was a bit quiet last week but just has that little bit of extra size and can play up the field.....but if they're bringing Newnes in, then like for like (wing)?
I’m a bit surprised that Newnes is back in the 18 but he is a seasoned player with a cool head when it counts.
I think that Kennedy, Cottrell, Plowman and Martin will make up the 22 and Dow will be the sub.
That would be a bit tough for Carroll and Motlop but, with the exception of KPPs and rucks, we have serious competition for a place in the team.
me too, but carrol looked spent and had very heavy legs halfway through the third. Just couldn't go anymore and it showed in some of his kicking.
The youngsters are good, plucky and they'll be back, because they've shown heaps.
Probably due a spell.
Youngsters will be fine - we are finally developing them correctly and introducing them slowly rather than throwing them in the fire where they lose all confidence
I’m a bit surprised that Newnes is back in the 18 but he is a seasoned player with a cool head when it counts.
I think that Kennedy, Cottrell, Plowman and Martin will make up the 22 and Dow will be the sub.
That would be a bit tough for Carroll and Motlop but, with the exception of KPPs and rucks, we have serious competition for a place in the team.
I'd have Martin as the sub and Dow in with those others you mentioned....Martin for me isnt an automatic after a Calf Injury given his form was just average prior. Dow(no tackling) hasnt been perfect in the VFL but has got a lot of the ball and has some run in his legs.
I'd have Martin as the sub and Dow in with those others you mentioned....Martin for me isnt an automatic after a Calf Injury given his form was just average prior. Dow(no tackling) hasnt been perfect in the VFL but has got a lot of the ball and has some run in his legs.
I thought Martin was very influential in the games before his calf injury; 5 goals, marks, tackles and a lot of run. Probably close to his best form since he joined but it's arguable that he should come back through the VFL, unless Carroll or Motlop is struggling.
Dow's not as good as our first 5 midfielders and hasn't shown any ability to play elsewhere. He probably deserves a run in the AFL but would that make us stronger?
Martin is a creative player who is capable of winning a game of footy off his own boot.
He generally tackles well, applies pressure, runs very hard, and usually ends up with lots of score involvements and metres gained.
I would have had a gentle gentle approach with him, and brought him back after the bye, but if he is ready I am ok with that, because he is one of our better performing forwards. Things are getting more competitive on that front though.
Martin is a creative player who is capable of winning a game of footy off his own boot.
He generally tackles well, applies pressure, runs very hard, and usually ends up with lots of score involvements and metres gained.
I would have had a gentle gentle approach with him, and brought him back after the bye, but if he is ready I am ok with that, because he is one of our better performing forwards. Things are getting more competitive on that front though.
Strong overhead for size also. When his goal kicking is "on", its elite, his action is as pure as it gets.
I thought Martin was very influential in the games before his calf injury; 5 goals, marks, tackles and a lot of run. Probably close to his best form since he joined but it's arguable that he should come back through the VFL, unless Carroll or Motlop is struggling.
Dow's not as good as our first 5 midfielders and hasn't shown any ability to play elsewhere. He probably deserves a run in the AFL but would that make us stronger?
Totally agree re Martin and Dow. Would Dow make us stronger? No. Martin? Yes.
Sorry, but not a Dow fan. Even in last week's loss to Sandy I saw Dow with opportunities to put his body in when an opponent had the aggot and he just watched. Don't trust him to go hard with defensive effort when it's his turn. Exciting when he gets the aggot and runs hard... but that's it.
I suspect they'll drop Motlop for Martin, who would want to do something more than be invisible for 75% of the game
No doubting Martins skills but for me he doesn't do enough for 4 quarters and is a luxury player you have to carry hoping he gives you a burst of brilliance that is game changing.
I like Dow and want to see him succeed but I get the negative vibes from others who are over waiting for some consistency and maturity in his game.
No doubting Martins skills but for me he doesn't do enough for 4 quarters and is a luxury player you have to carry hoping he gives you a burst of brilliance that is game changing.
I like Dow and want to see him succeed but I get the negative vibes from others who are over waiting for some consistency and maturity in his game.
IMO, has not been given enough of a decent go to prove himself EB.
IMO, has not been given enough of a decent go to prove himself EB.
Agree GTC, with such a strong midfield it's hard squeezing him in but I think he offers more long term than Newnes, Cottrell etc..
Agree GTC, with such a strong midfield it's hard squeezing him in but I think he offers more long term than Newnes, Cottrell etc..
Only if the measure is midfield, I think Newnes and Cottrell have Dow comfortably covered in just about ever other position.
A bit of trivia: why is Collingwood Coach Craig McCrae known as Fly?
A. He gave himself a bad undercut haircut when he was at Port and Choco Williams spotted him at training and called him Marty McFly. When he went up to the Lions, they dropped the Mc.
Agree GTC, with such a strong midfield it's hard squeezing him in but I think he offers more long term than Newnes, Cottrell etc..
Problem for Dow is that he's an inside mid only... so who would you drop for him, Cripps or Kennedy? That's the challenge for Dow, to displace one of those two.
I would think it would be Martin in for Carroll. I think he has been struggling a little bit over the past couple of weeks with the intensity of AFL football and he may be a bit knocked about. I think he is a long term prospect but he probably needs a bit of a break. I thought that Martin had recently been really trying to impact on the game a bit more than he has in the past before he got injured. He seems to have got the message that having a highlights reel is different from being an effective football. He would also give us a bit more marking up forward.
Collingwood's rucks aren't as good as when Grundy is available so DeKonning could be pretty effective in this game while our second ruck options may not be as outgunned and this could make our midfield a bit more effective. In the past the has been the midfield has been the key to Collingwood but this may not be as true now that FIGJAM isn't coaching. When they get on a roll they are frenetic but we should be able to dominate them. If we turn up to play as we have over the past two weeks then it should be a fairly comfortable win.
Agree GTC, with such a strong midfield it's hard squeezing him in but I think he offers more long term than Newnes, Cottrell etc..
Dow doesn’t provide the gut running and defensive efforts that Newnes, Cottrell and O’Brien do.
Robert Walls was full of praise for Cottrell and his tank. His defensive efforts towards the end of games have been outstanding. He must have great endurance and he’s using that to great effect when everyone else is flagging.
Newnes isn’t going to be around for much longer but neither will Dow unless he develops more strings to his bow.
It seems that Matt Kennedy will miss the game so Dow may get his opportunity after all.
Big shoes to fill Paddy - give it your best shot!
Kennedy out, Dow in
It seems that Matt Kennedy will miss the game so Dow may get his opportunity after all.
Big shoes to fill Paddy - give it your best shot!
Opportunity is knocking, Paddy... step up to the plate, and, good luck.
He must have great endurance and he’s using that to great effect when everyone else is flagging.
Cottrell is among the fittest blokes at the club.
I think his first time trial at the club he beat the Curnows (which was unheard of).
They showed a stat during the last game of distance covered. Walsh was #1 with something like 16.5km. Cottrell was #2 with 16.4km....next best was a couple of opposition players at least 1km behind.
Walsh is basically known as the best runner in the game, and cottrell is basically his equal.
So yeah.....good tank. ;)
Prefer Trudegeon to Dow tbh - he is more like for like. I hope Paddy puts on a show but damn would like to see him lay a few tackles. Bit of a liability that boy
Prefer Trudegeon to Dow tbh - he is more like for like. I hope Paddy puts on a show but damn would like to see him lay a few tackles. Bit of a liability that boy
Trudgeon is on the VFL list only.
Cottrell is among the fittest blokes at the club.
I think his first time trial at the club he beat the Curnows (which was unheard of).
They showed a stat during the last game of distance covered. Walsh was #1 with something like 16.5km. Cottrell was #2 with 16.4km....next best was a couple of opposition players at least 1km behind.
Walsh is basically known as the best runner in the game, and cottrell is basically his equal.
So yeah.....good tank. ;)
Cottrell smashes them over 2km, Walsh said as much SEN last Sat, said he is by far the best runner at the club. Having said that, lets be clear, running ability and football ability are two different things.
Will be interesting to see how many that get to the open training session this morning. Team on fire, I'd expect a very healthy, enthusiastic gathering!!!
I am starting to feel nervous about the clash with the Pies. Us being a more favourite to win gives us everything to lose and the Pies everything to gain. I hope we are switched on for these feckers. On a good day, they can be a nightmares.
I am starting to feel nervous about the clash with the Pies. Us being a more favourite to win gives us everything to lose and the Pies everything to gain. I hope we are switched on for these feckers. On a good day, they can be a nightmares.
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Just remember its not just sport its entertainment.
If the afl want a tight competition they'll engineer an outcome they want.
Fremantle just rolled the Demons. That shows not a single side is safe. Not based on ladder position. Not based on points on the board, or percentage. Yesterday doesn’t matter. The top ladder holders are like always, are the sides that will be hunted. Those that need to be pulled closer to the entire field. This is a game to build real character. This win could be the best one of the season. The trend of the round doesn’t look good. Bring it on guys. This is the litmus test we need. I hope Voss has the guys ready for the challenge. You haven’t been a failure this season. Just get the job done, no matter what it takes. This game will draw a huge crowd. Maybe put us back into future block buster games. I am keen to see this game, but still nervous on the result. Let’s hope for a result we need.
Just remember its not just sport its entertainment.
If the afl want a tight competition they'll engineer an outcome they want.
Only if we're all wearing our tinfoil hats :)
I think that the AFL might need some help with their engineering; the results aren't going to plan ...
I remember the days of the old 'mid season slump'. ;D
We'd be going like a 'house on fire' and then we'd have a down patch when we'd drop a couple of games before getting back on track.
I suspect we'll experience that at some stage this year.
Hopefully it's not against this mob.
It really is a case of coming 'switched on' and ready to play.
This will be a good test.
Hopefully we pass.
On my birthday last year, carlton defeated Collingwood in an unlikely win to provide a great gift.
Today is my mates birthday who is a Collingwood fan. Hopefully the roles are not reversed....
I remember the days of the old 'mid season slump'. ;D
We'd be going like a 'house on fire' and then we'd have a down patch when we'd drop a couple of games before getting back on track.
I suspect we'll experience that at some stage this year.
Hopefully it's not against this mob.
I think the old mid-season slump probably was at least partly attributable to lower players' salaries and laxer gambling scrutiny in the past. A well-timed bet against the team when it was riding high helped to make sure the trip was first-rate.
Imagine the odds that bookies would have offered for Sydney to beat Carlton by more than 39.5 points in 1995 as Carlton was steam-rolling towards a flag. And the odds in the following week for St Kilda to beat Carlton by more than 39.5 points would have been only slightly lower. Then, the odds of Carlton thrashing the Hawks by more than 100 points in the week after those 2 losses would have been pretty juicy as well. Not to say that the boys did back against themselves, but such swings these days would certainly be investigated more thoroughly than your average murder.
On my birthday last year, carlton defeated Collingwood in an unlikely win to provide a great gift.
Today is my mates birthday who is a Collingwood fan. Hopefully the roles are not reversed....
You had to say that didn't you? :D
My daughter and I are going, we haven't seen a win live in years, now all the negative juju will follow me all day. I won't be able to stomach a loss to this mob.
I think the old mid-season slump probably was at least partly attributable to lower players' salaries and laxer gambling scrutiny in the past. A well-timed bet against the team when it was riding high helped to make sure the trip was first-rate.
Imagine the odds that bookies would have offered for Sydney to beat Carlton by more than 39.5 points in 1995 as Carlton was steam-rolling towards a flag. And the odds in the following week for St Kilda to beat Carlton by more than 39.5 points would have been only slightly lower. Then, the odds of Carlton thrashing the Hawks by more than 100 points in the week after those 2 losses would have been pretty juicy as well. Not to say that the boys did back against themselves, but such swings these days would certainly be investigated more thoroughly than your average murder.
Possibly.
I was thinking a bit farther back than 1995 to when I was a young'un.
I'd say the money in 1995, while nowhere near what it is now, wasn't too bad.
I was at the Swans game in 95. I'd like to think it was a couple of weeks when we went in overconfident and paid the price rather than the alternative.
We were also missing Kernahan and Williams for both games.
But the whispers got around that there were other reasons for the loss and it becomes a bit of a story.
These days such losses are easily explained by things such as increasing training blocks for a time leaving the players a bit flat or injuries to key personnel as happened to Melbourne last night.
Jack Carroll looks like the sub, with no last minute changes as Kemp, Martin and Boyd are all playing for the VFL
The 95 losses in hindsight look sus but when they happened it was only 7 games after the 94 finals capitulation. After those two horror matches we were 7-5 from our last 10 games.