Remember to use this as soon as the game is done.
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WOW! I didn't see that coming to be honest.
I thought it may happen but still can’t believe it.
Beaten the top 2 teams in last 2 weeks
So so proud. Going to be a super weekend.
Pies certainly had their chances - Nearly double the marks I50, more I50's, more shots on goal. Nice to see them spraying them for a change.
Our defence and pressure was fantastic. Martin is a gun.
Held everything together great in that last qtr. I was impressed just getting 6 goals up. Knew they weren't coming back from there. Whole new world for us now.
Exciting as it is you just can't keep relying on coming from behind in the last qtr all the time. Just.nor sustainable. If they fail it a couple of times belief with that will stay fading.
Quite a few players to which I owe apologies -
Martin probably first and foremost. Motlop another.
Still a couple of ‘wobbly’ players but you certainly can’t question their commitment.
When Saad and Doc become ‘lesser lights’, you know we’ve stepped up.
Cerra and Newman were amazing (and Charles, of course)!
6 in a row? Wow.
Let’s not forget how important these last 2 weeks are for our club.
BELIEF.
Finally this list knows its best is good enough and that my friend is a major tipping point for this list.
Who knows how far we can go from here but the group now know what they can achieve.
The numbers suggest the top team in competition didn't get beaten when at full strength and in form but Obliterated.
Hard to get a mention in the best on the AFL website when you kick 6!!
Carlton: Cripps, Newman, Weitering, Motlop, Hollands, Cerra
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Cripps 20 disposals TOG 82%
Cerra 20 disposals. TOG 40% :o
If Charlie wins the Coleman, it definitely should be with an asterisk … denoting six goals against the best fullback 🙂
Great win against the odds.
#Believe
Does anyone feel sorry for the punter who wagered $1M on the Magpies and was expecting to pocket $400K?
I thought not 😂
I tipped us again!!
I think we are witnessing a major turning point for our club. Wonderful performance by the boys and one to raise a few doubts in Collingwood minds - love it. :D :D :D
All aboard the Vosswagen again! 8)
That's how you win a game ........ tackle hard, chase hard, pressure the opposition & attack the ball-carrier.
Fogarty's tackle on Mihocek (?) was first class.
Weitering was superb all night.
There was hardly a poor player on the field tonight.
Sadly, Marchbank made some horrible errors and whilst some will say he has been out of the game for a long time, you may not have your "touch" first up but you don't lose your experience & knowledge. His papers must be stamped now !!!
I reckon Nick Daicos will wake up in the morning very sore after tonight, he got grappled & double-teamed all night and was nothing near the contributor he has been this year - good coaching & well drilled from the players.
That's how you win a game ........ tackle hard, chase hard, pressure the opposition & attack the ball-carrier.
Fogarty's tackle on Mihocek (?) was first class.
Weitering was superb all night.
There was hardly a poor player on the field tonight.
TDK was poor IMO, had multiple chances to impact the game and fluffed every chance
Sadly, Marchbank made some horrible errors and whilst some will say he has been out of the game for a long time, you may not have your "touch" first up but you don't lose your experience & knowledge. His papers must be stamped now !!!
Do you honestly believe this?
The MC deemed him worthy of getting a game, and because of a brain fade (or 2?) he will be banished from the list as a result?
TBH, if the MC are so fickle that something like that is enough to end someones career, then that is not the MC i want at our club.
TDK was poor IMO, had multiple chances to impact the game and fluffed every chance
Karl Langdon…
He almost takes solid/spectacular marks as a forward.
His marking last week was good.
TDK was poor IMO, had multiple chances to impact the game and fluffed every chance
True.
Spilt some marks he should have swallowed including one on his chest.
Well. I didn't see that coming. Although I certainly acknowledge the shift we've witnessed in recent weeks. In fact I heard the almighty "click" q2 v Suns. We really haven't looked back.
It's a real credit to the boys and to all involved at the club. Again, our achilles heel is still the injury curse. We need to improve this to continue to progress this year IMO.
Go Blues. Tremendous win in front of almost 87k
Do you honestly believe this?
The MC deemed him worthy of getting a game, and because of a brain fade (or 2?) he will be banished from the list as a result?
TBH, if the MC are so fickle that something like that is enough to end someones career, then that is not the MC i want at our club.
I do believe it.
He would do one great thing and then two horrors.
It had nothing to do with being rusty, they were just really poor decisions.
I tipped us again!!
I think we are witnessing a major turning point for our club. Wonderful performance by the boys and one to raise a few doubts in Collingwood minds - love it. :D :D :D
Did you put a cool mill on us? 🤣
TDK was poor IMO, had multiple chances to impact the game and fluffed every chance
Poor ? He was simply crap and needs to be better so doe Pitto who also had a crap game.
TDK was poor IMO, had multiple chances to impact the game and fluffed every chance
Glad someone else said it.
Reckon i heard "De Koning, almost..." on quite a few occassions and that sums up his career.
I'm happy to cut him some slack as he is largely learning to play a big banana up forward, but he's just signed a new contract, he needs to start providing some decent output.
TBH, i thought Pittonet was a below his usual standard too, but walking out there wrapped up like a mummy is about what we expected. He played out of necessity. Hopefully both pull up ok because we can't afford to ride them into the ground with Jack out already.
I do believe it.
He would do one great thing and then two horrors.
It had nothing to do with being rusty, they were just really poor decisions.
Everyone makes poor decisions.
Cripps makes a poor decision every week when he tries to break 1 too many tackles.
Acres makes a poor decision every week when he tries to pinpoint a kick down the line and puts it in the 5th row instead.
Charlie gave him a big wrap after the game......twice....so its clear the boys are happy with him and what he provides.
What I found most impressive
- played 4q
- pressure didn't wane
- attitude was never say die
- tackling excellent
- ran hard both ways
- sub worked well (shame about Cez)
- played our own game
- excellent skills
- composed to the very end
- Vossy's animation + composure
Oh. One more thing....
Happy 150th George.
We seem to be thriving on milestone games. I hope we've got another 3 to come 🙏
Whilst I believe we’ll go on with it, we really do need to win next week to make this week count.
Amazing game. Could not be prouder.
BT or, as we refer to him at home ‘hindsight Hodge’ said - Collingwood had a 6 day interstate wet turnaround - does that matter? We missed Cerra after halftime, Walsh and JSOS entire game 🤷🏻♀️
WOW! I didn't see that coming to be honest.
You and me, too. I was expecting a loss. But we were excellent.
I have to join the list of those that didn’t see this result coming. Not getting a chance to watch the game, doesn’t allow me to judge where we are at the moment. Based on the end result are we capable of beating any team going forward. 2 big scalps. Port and Collingwood. Is there a mathematical chance to finish top 4?
Geez i thought Pitto battled hard all night.
Yep, Marchbank looked rusty but still reckon we line up better with him out there.
Blokes like Cornes taking pot shots at Charlie for the easy goals against West Coast...well, 6 against the bloke pencilled in for AA full back should put him back in his box.
Take out the first 10 minutes where we looked a bit shell shocked, and we looked every bit a top 8 side...missing H, SOS, Walsh and Kennedy and then losing Cerra who was BOG at that point......against a full strength, top of the table side, missing only Hill.
Acres again proving a few pundits wrong, especially in that first quarter when the pressure was really on. That'll be the 3rd round draft pick to measure going forward.
Motlop/Owies combo again showed what theyre capable of.
A damn good way to start the weekend.
How farken good is that. Top team, MCG, Friday Night, prime time big stage and the boys delivered!
Go Blues
Geez i thought Pitto battled hard all night.
When Marc came back last year, he also struggled a bit. he is better for having games under his belt and having confidence in his knees. Neither are the case at the moment, but, you're 100% right, Marc worked like a trojan! As for the frees at the hitouts, I was most unimpressed. They block and shepherd and it is play on. We think of doing it, and we get a free against us. That was difficult to swallow.
Yep, Marchbank looked rusty but still reckon we line up better with him out there.
Marchbank took some really clutch marks today, but he is still very much from his best. His decision making will improve. But I'd really like to see him punch more. He needs game into him, the more the better. Making a good matchup for him isn't going to be easy: he isn't a strong player, nor is his very physical. Can he find a spot if we make it to September? Good question. But by then he should have enough games behind to be able to tell.
Blokes like Cornes taking pot shots at Charlie for the easy goals against West Coast...well, 6 against the bloke pencilled in for AA full back should put him back in his box.
Don't bother listening to Cornes: the guy is an idiot. Charlie hasn't been playing that well this year and he still leads the Coleman. His last couple of weeks have been superb, but he's had some quiet ones. If he can keep this form up ...
Take out the first 10 minutes where we looked a bit shell shocked, and we looked every bit a top 8 side...missing H, SOS, Walsh and Kennedy and then losing Cerra who was BOG at that point......against a full strength, top of the table side, missing only Hill.
Indeed. We were missing a number of guys from our best lineup, they had 2 injuries (other than Hill) and neither of them is a likely starter. That makes our win all the sweeter. But that first 10 minutes was ordinary. We can't allow sides many of those.
Acres again proving a few pundits wrong, especially in that first quarter when the pressure was really on. That'll be the 3rd round draft pick to measure going forward.
Acres was brilliant early. Probably 2nd only to Cerra in the first half. However, he has a tendency of doing that. His starts are usually better than his finishes. But he really showed his worth tonight. Very happy with the way he is playing.
Motlop/Owies combo again showed what they're capable of.
Really good contributions from our small forwards. Martin played probably his 2nd best ever game for us and was dangerous. All of them provided defensive pressure that simply wasn't happening 7 weeks ago.
A damn good way to start the weekend.
Indeed.
I think TDK is much better as the solo ruck, with a SOS/Young sidekick. He’s been incredible over the past few weeks with Pitto out. Sadly both ruckmen are at their best when they’re flying solo. Personally I prefer TDK over Pitto.
There were so many team players tonight though, which cut some slack for the very small minority that didn’t have a great game. The stats haven’t done a few blokes justice too. I thought the likes of Fogarty and Kemp were really instrumental in parts of the game, despite not having much of it.
All in all though, this was one of the most satisfying win in years. We play like that for the rest of the year….ANYTHING is possible 🏆
Did you put a cool mill on us? 🤣
Sadly not. It was for my tipping competition where prizes are somewhat more modest. Enjoyed it though. O:-)
Great win but I think the standout for me in the form turnaround has been Luke Sayers telling the Mathieson’s to pi55 off after being an embarrassment to the club in the rooms after our lowest form. Since those poker machine blackmailers couldn’t get there way and immediately sack Voss we have gone from strength to strength in solidarity. You could see in the rooms tonight we are a club again united with some belief. From the top down to the boot studded we are a team.
I'd be cutting Marchbank a bit of slack before cutting him completely.
He looked like a player who hadn't played for a while, and maybe wouldn't have, had we not had the injury concerns.
Some of his decision making and timing was at VFL level and he needs a couple of games to get reaccustomed to the speed and pressure of the senior game.
Really liking the forward line.
Charlie's 6
Martin seems to be impacting more with each game...and he doesn't need much to impact.
...and I thought Owies and Motlop worked really well together.
McKay has to play when he's fit, but we need to work a way to keep that full forward line a bit open.
I'm not sure where Durdin fits in.
Whilst I believe we’ll go on with it, we really do need to win next week to make this week count.
Amazing game. Could not be prouder.
BT or, as we refer to him at home ‘hindsight Hodge’ said - Collingwood had a 6 day interstate wet turnaround - does that matter? We missed Cerra after halftime, Walsh and JSOS entire game 🤷🏻♀️
It was a short flight to Adelaide? :o
Great win despite the umpires gifting the Filth some crazy decisions which led to goals.
King Charles needs to get his head ripped off to get a free.
Watched it with a Power supporter and he couldn't believe how hard done by we were by the umps.
I said welcome to my world.
Pitto and TDK will be fine, the big blokes need to string games together.
Cameron, Cox and if needed McStay are serious opposition.
It's the idea that we have to always choose one or the other that is a bit flawed, it's as crazy as the debate about "Harry or Charlie" like choosing one of the other makes sense, ..... it's called media dribble! Voss took the piss out of it in the presser.
Really liking the forward line.
Charlie's 6
Martin seems to be impacting more with each game...and he doesn't need much to impact.
...and I thought Owies and Motlop worked really well together.
McKay has to play when he's fit, but we need to work a way to keep that full forward line a bit open.
I'm not sure where Durdin fits in.
Charlies angels?
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Our belief and commitment to being the 'hunters' continues to grow and consolidate. There's a persistent ruthlessness about how we play that is irresistible.
When you factor in the missing key personnel, it only makes the win and the manner of the win all the more impressive - team of leaders with strong accountability and adherence to 'role'.
Now, time to watch the replay and savour every delicious moment.
Ps good to see the umpires finally catching most illegal tactics to stop Charles.
Very satisfying win given the lead up to the game and all the Collingwood hype.
Charlie has gone to the next level as a Full Forward and dare I say it seems to take charge more with Harry out of the team.
Newman and Weitering were outstanding down back and the former has been our best player this season along with unlucky Cerra who had a great first half.
Never been a fan of Martin and it's been a long time between drinks ie his first game but he actually gave us a complete game and converted well which was a key factor in the win so credit to him.
Thought Collingwood had their fair share of the ball but were under pressure most of the time and our tackling was at its best it been for years.
Re Marchbank....didn't have a great game and is very slow but at the same time being thrown into a big game with no previous senior footy for a long while you probably have to expect a few errors.
Didn't think the ruck battles influenced much and the midfield was even but we had the better forwards and method and that's where the game was won.
Great win despite the umpires gifting the Filth some crazy decisions which led to goals.
King Charles needs to get his head ripped off to get a free.
Watched it with a Power supporter and he couldn't believe how hard done by we were by the umps.
I said welcome to my world.
The ABC reckoned Charlie was lucky to get a few frees, but considering the ones he DIDN'T get, I think that came out about even.
Collingwood got some of the worst frees I can remember. Our rucks, in particular, were savaged by the Umps.
Didnt watch the game last night as I had a work function. I watched the replay this morning and a few things stood out to me:
- A very workman like performance, EVERY single player did their job whether it was score a bag of goals, play a cameo, lay tackles, run 15.6km. Whilst the scalp was huge, it was we didn't try and be too cute, just a solid performance from every line.
- We had a plan and stuck to it to a tee. Peter's boys had the right amount of attention from multiple players, Cripps kept De Goey quiet for the most part, Sidebottom was NOT permitted to run around like a leper all night and finally pressure pressure pressure. It's amazing how when you apply pressure, normally brialliant balls users suddenly have less time. Mr Ice in His Veins was even too scared to take a shot in the last, that's what scoreboard pressure does.
Hard luck for Cez, was BOG up until he went off, hopefully not too serious a hammy. Special mention to Ollie Hollands, what a player he will be for us.
Great win, 6 in a row, who woulda thunk it? Certainly not me.
Go Blues
Some rough, sketchy impressions :
Seeing Cripps barge through contest after contest, tackle after tackle was so great to see. Definitely won the battle with DeGoey
Marchbank and Dow were a little off, but for very different reasons.
Pittonet and De Koning both ordinary IMO
The role players did their job really well
Hollands tackle on that Neanderthal Maynard was great.
Acres is a good link man, but needs to stamp out the dodgy kicks
Hewett was very good.
Charlie Curnow, Weitering and Martin are guns
Fogarty has played great pressure footy since his return. Definitely consolidated his spot in the 22 IMO.
All round great pressure and tackling game.
Moving Jeremy Howe forward was a great move. Nearly swung the momentum back in their favour.
Super super effort by all concerned.
Great win but I think the standout for me in the form turnaround has been Luke Sayers telling the Mathieson’s to pi55 off after being an embarrassment to the club in the rooms after our lowest form. Since those poker machine blackmailers couldn’t get there way and immediately sack Voss we have gone from strength to strength in solidarity. You could see in the rooms tonight we are a club again united with some belief. From the top down to the boot studded we are a team.
Could turn out to be the most significant Blues move in recent times 🤔
Pies certainly had their chances - Nearly double the marks I50, more I50's, more shots on goal. Nice to see them spraying them for a change.
Our defence and pressure was fantastic. Martin is a gun.
He has always been a gun just could not stay on the park!!!
He has always been a gun just could not stay on the park!!!
I agree.
Whilst I believe we’ll go on with it, we really do need to win next week to make this week count.
Amazing game. Could not be prouder.
BT or, as we refer to him at home ‘hindsight Hodge’ said - Collingwood had a 6 day interstate wet turnaround - does that matter? We missed Cerra after halftime, Walsh and JSOS entire game 🤷🏻♀️
As for BT's comments. Pies coach dismissed the short flight and 6d turnaround is normal. In our house BT is known as BS 😉
That's how you win a game ........ tackle hard, chase hard, pressure the opposition & attack the ball-carrier.
Fogarty's tackle on Mihocek (?) was first class.
Weitering was superb all night.
There was hardly a poor player on the field tonight.
Sadly, Marchbank made some horrible errors and whilst some will say he has been out of the game for a long time, you may not have your "touch" first up but you don't lose your experience & knowledge. His papers must be stamped now !!!
I reckon Nick Daicos will wake up in the morning very sore after tonight, he got grappled & double-teamed all night and was nothing near the contributor he has been this year - good coaching & well drilled from the players.
Yes and don't forget Motlop. A couple of hard as nails tackles on much bigger opponents, and they stuck. Pressure, Presser and then some.
On Marchbank, a coupe of horrible mistakes. Can you imagine what could be going through his mind after everything that he has gone through over the last few years. Confidence and continuity will make a world of difference.
Our belief and commitment to being the 'hunters' continues to grow and consolidate. There's a persistent ruthlessness about how we play that is irresistible.
When you factor in the missing key personnel, it only makes the win and the manner of the win all the more impressive - team of leaders with strong accountability and adherence to 'role'.
Now, time to watch the replay and savour every delicious moment.
Ps good to see the umpires finally catching most illegal tactics to stop Charles.
Enjoy the replay with a pie 🥧
#hunters
Never been a fan of Martin and it's been a long time between drinks ie his first game but he actually gave us a complete game and converted well which was a key factor in the win so credit to him.
Same !!
He has the ability but not the grey matter.
Normally does nothing for half of the match then has a blistering 6-7 minutes of complete dominance and then disappears again.
Whilst last nite was the best I've seen him play, his inconsistency & brainfarts cannot be overlooked and my preference is to see him shown the door.
By the way, Cerra was playing a blinder until he tweaked his hammy again, looks way fitter than in the past and his delivery on the left foot is first rate.
I quite liked Cottrell's game last (and again, I'm not a huge fan but he is slowly winning me over), wasn't a "highlights reel", just a lot of "meat & potatoes" stuff which I see as far more more important.
Hollands looked a tad unsure every time he had to battle with Maynard, there is a fair bit of difference in age, body-size & experience so the young chap has to just bore in harder next time.
In the last month I have noticed a change with the Pies in terms of their level of arrogance. Reckon the players supporters and even coach got a tad ahead of themself and was so nice to be the club to remove the smugness of those pr1cks.
I have a decent memory when it suits me 😂 but I remember Sidebottom laughing at how we played after the loss to them earlier in the year. Also Maynard made arrogant comments before the port match and Elliot’s look when he took that nice mark in the last quarter made me want to vomit. Adam’s is a smartar5e and even Nick Daicos has gotten ahead of himself imo. The coach is always too happy and made a smart comment about not having a bet with Voss on these games anymore as it was costing Voss too much. I know it was a joke but still in most jokes comments even in jest there is an element of truth.
Anyhow stuff them Im rapt with that win. 3 weeks in a row we lost key players very early on but still got the job done.
We are much even and our midfield is very deep and not just with C grades but with top liners.
We are finally an even team who don’t rely on one or 2 players. Yes Charlie kicking a bag is nice but we beat port with a modest return and that’s something I haven’t seen for decades in a Carlton team.
Think we have arrived gents
Same !!
He has the ability but not the grey matter.
Normally does nothing for half of the match then has a blistering 6-7 minutes of complete dominance and then disappears again.
Whilst last nite was the best I've seen him play, his inconsistency & brainfarts cannot be overlooked and my preference is to see him shown the door.
By the way, Cerra was playing a blinder until he tweaked his hammy again, looks way fitter than in the past and his delivery on the left foot is first rate.
I quite liked Cottrell's game last (and again, I'm not a huge fan but he is slowly winning me over), wasn't a "highlights reel", just a lot of "meat & potatoes" stuff which I see as far more more important.
Hollands looked a tad unsure every time he had to battle with Maynard, there is a fair bit of difference in age, body-size & experience so the young chap has to just bore in harder next time.
Didn't see much of Cottrell and have seen him play better. Needs more than 12 possessions a game but he didn't do much wrong either and I guess every team has their low profile Indians to complement their Chiefs.
Martin had 12 possessions also but his were of high impact and when he is on he is very good but it's the same old story can he stay on the park and deliver that type of game more often than not.I think he will get another extension maybe a 1+1 deal if he holds up fitness wise.
Maynard was one of Collingwoods better players I thought and is a rough hombre so a kid like Hollands was fighting out of his division but had some good moments and showed he will be a capable player vs more suitable opponents.
I'll bet my life savings that Voss is a huge Martin fan, and if he gets his way, JM won't be going anywhere. And rightly so.
Pies tend to score most from their defensive chains, unlike most flag sides who do it from their forward chains. Voss got it right applying alot of frontal pressure to the Collingwood defence shutting out their ability to score from defensive chains. Port did it last week too but went away from it when 21pts ahead at 3/4 time. We stayed true to what put us in front in the first place and put the game out of reach. Sides will learn from us last night.
In Collingwood games this year they have been no.1 for accuracy in front of goal, their opponents, on the day itself, have been 18th time and again. Means they are getting the ball into the 50 easily without alot of pressure but their defence is pressuring their opposition. We reversed it.
Amazing when you're running hard, committed, opening the game up how much better ball use is. Most of the "butchers" at least become silk.
When was the last time we won 6 on the trot... including the top 2 sides!!
Its a team on a mission now
The determination and professionalism to dot the the i's and cross the t's was remarkable and still have great players to come into the team.
Said it before on here....Martin is low possession, high impact....and we probably have to accept that going forward....and a pretty smart player IMO. He's hitting the scoreboard regularly for us, along with Motlop, and now Owies too that he's back in the side. The spread of goalkickers over the last 6 wins has been really impressive.
Re Acres disposal, I’m not fussed.
I think it’s nothing more than muscle fatigue, to cover the km’s and get the possessions you’re going to spray a couple.
Anyone else annoyed by Howes sleeve last night ?
I think Docherty picked him out in the first Q with a pinpoint pass, I recon he thought he was a teammate.
When was the last time we won 6 on the trot... including the top 2 sides!!
Not this century.
Re Acres disposal, I’m not fussed.
I think it’s nothing more than muscle fatigue, to cover the km’s and get the possessions you’re going to spray a couple.
Anyone else annoyed by Howes sleeve last night ?
I think Docherty picked him out in the first Q with a pinpoint pass, I recon he thought he was a teammate.
I can only speak for myself, but I had no issue with it. Some of those Pies players have tatts covering their whole arm, and I think at a distance they would look dark much like Howe's sleeve. As an aside, Howe is a great player. I'd happily have him.
Great win but I think the standout for me in the form turnaround has been Luke Sayers telling the Mathieson’s to pi55 off after being an embarrassment to the club in the rooms after our lowest form. Since those poker machine blackmailers couldn’t get there way and immediately sack Voss we have gone from strength to strength in solidarity. You could see in the rooms tonight we are a club again united with some belief. From the top down to the boot studded we are a team.
There is a new generation of Carlton supporter being influenced by the likes of football people like Brian Cook and not the money people like Pratt and Mathieson who were on the Board but have moved on.
There's not much of Hollands but gees he gets to where the ball is going and he is going to be a helluva player over time. Gets to so many contests - often when he seeingly can't - and when he starts winning these he is going to be an extremely valuable player. Very defensive minded and gets back as defensive cover for a winger.
Others have commented on the woeful umpiring but the high fend from DeGoey on MacG was very average and although it may have cost 50m and a goal, the square up shoulder charge really underlined the tone....a real F you, we're not going to be intimidated moment.
Travelling home on the tram after the WCE game I was chatting to some Richmond supporters after asking them if they thought Richmond might finish ninth this year they asked how I thought we go against the Pies with all our injuries. I told them it wouldn't matter who we picked as long as they gave 100% we would be too good. My show of confidence confused them and made them think that Carlton was a big show this week. I wasn't really telling them, the truth but that is how the game panned out. A full strength Collingwood against an understrength Carlton but it didn't make any different.
It will be interesting how the narrative goes. The loss was good for Collingwood. If they had kicked straight the result may have been different. Carlton caught them unawares and they will be ready for this next time. Can the umpires give Collingwood even more rubbish free kicks. The big question for me is of the two teams who has the most room for improvement. Would Silvagni, Kennedy, McKay, Boyd and Cerra playing a complete match make us a better side or is there more improvement in Collingwood?
To me Collingwood have a lot of deliverers and finishers but not a lot of ball winners. They intercept mark and get the loose ball and then take off but they don't win the ball as such. Keep the game tight and don't give them the ball and because they in front of the ball you can get them on the rebound on turnover. Carlton has shown the blue print it will be interesting if other sides follow.
I thought that the team and intent was fabulous and the tackling was ferocious. My only concern was that Hollands and Kemp struggled against the size of their opponents but I do not question their endeavour.
We have to keep this mindset going. Carlton in the past could have beaten Collingwood and Port Adelaide and then go out and lose to St Kilda, Gold Coast and the Giants. Our destiny is in our own hands.
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"He who laughs last" :D
Not this century.
13 in a row in 2000.
After that, 6 from 7 in 2015 (yes, 2015) is the closest.
On Hollands.
He's putting together an outstanding season, including a solid return from injury. He looks to be learning and growing each game and his courage is beyond his years/size.
Recruiting appears to have been spot on in adding some quality run. Binns also developing well. I'm impressed they can kick on both sides. This should be a requirement and ongoing focus IMO.
Off topic I know... Compare that recruiting to LOB and Dow. Not to mention the pre-draft investment we made. Let's not even think about the Samo Fisher draft. Just shows how important nailing early picks are when you're rebuilding.
Anyway, Hollands should be very pleased with his journey so far. I'm hoping it will be a fulfilling and long decorated career in navy blue.
Go Blues.
Cue Mr Russell.
Crippa charged with rough conduct q4 on Quaynor. Cant say I saw that.
Plead guilty, cop the 2k and move on..... next?
DeGoey, high, careless,low impact; $2000
Four umpires; staging (pretending to be AFL standard) 1 week.
DeGoey, high, careless,low impact; $2000
Four umpires; staging (pretending to be AFL standard) 1 week.
I like it 👏🏼
Great win despite the umpires gifting the Filth some crazy decisions which led to goals.
3 free kicks for marginal late hits come to mind
My only concern was that Hollands and Kemp struggled against the size of their opponents but I do not question their endeavour.
Not just Hollands and Kemp. The strong overhead marking by the Pies' big units up forward represented a major threat (even before Howe went forward) unless Weitering was in the contest. If we meet them again in the finals, I think we might need some other options available.
I have previously commented on the Blues' clean skins, i.e. absence of visible tattoos. It was never more evident than against the pies.
Not just Hollands and Kemp. The strong overhead marking by the Pies' big units up forward represented a major threat (even before Howe went forward) unless Weitering was in the contest. If we meet them again in the finals, I think we might need some other options available.
Maybe Big Durds; he is a strong guy and an excellent mark.
When was the last time we won 6 on the trot... including the top 2 sides!!
If you ever have a question that starts with "when was the last time..." there is a good chance the answer is in this thread.
https://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=5862.0
The rucks from both teams had little impact and we won the clearances despite being behind in the hitouts. Pittonet managed to get his hands on a couple of ground balls while De Koning was fumbly and dropped marks he'd normally clunk. Two marks from your rucks is way below par. Collingwood could have put Cox's jersey on a High and Mighty store dummy and it would have had more impact. Cameron had some influence around the ground with five marks.
In those circumstances, free kicks in the ruck can be decisive and some of the decisions on Friday were hard to follow. De Koning was penalised at the first bounce for a "body check". I'm not sure what that is but it seemed to me that he was simply going for the ball. De Koning was penalised again when the bounce favoured his side of the circle and he stood under the ball. Was he supposed to run backwards away from the ball? Cameron applied virtually identical "body checks" to Pitto as the first quarter progressed and it was "play on" every time.
In the second quarter Cox applied a headlock to Charlie during a ruck contest and the obvious free was paid. Not even Collingwood supporters could complain about that ... or could they?
In the last quarter McStay was penalised for blocking De Koning. McStay clearly held De Koning away from the ball drop and the free kick was deserved. Not long after, Cameron applied a more physical block on Pitto and Pitto was penalised for high contact despite Cameron clearly initiating the contact.
That's five free kicks for ruck infringements with two going our way, but that's not really the point. The point is that there's no logic or consistency to the way ruck infringements are adjudicated. If the two frees against De Koning were correct, at least ten other similar frees should have been paid. I don't know if there's much communication between the AFL and clubs about what constitutes a ruck infringement, but there should be more. It would be interesting to hear what the AFL/umpires think De Koning should have done when the ball bounced towards his side of the circle :-\
It was good to see Caleb Marchbank in the 22 and even better that he got through the game unscathed. He is clearly very popular with his teammates and his return to the team would have lifted already bouyant spirits.
I thought that he was a little off the pace, as would be expected, but it was a pretty seamless return. An errant handball into the corridor at the end of a quarter, allowing the man on the mark to smother a kick out of defence and the rushed behind weren't all that flash, but were inconsequential as it turned out. The rushed behind was interesting; I think that it was more accidental than intentional and Elliott's quick thinking to move away from the ball was smart footy.
On the positive side, Marchbank's marking and intercepting were excellent, he covered the ground well and played his role in our team defence. Apart from a couple of poor kicks, he generally hit targets or got the ball to our advantage.
One of many things that impressed me about our performance was our physicality. There was no silly, blatant stuff but we were more than happy to get into our opponents' faces ... and bodies. Nick Daicos got a bit of treatment but the two prime targets were Maynard and De Goey. Maynard, in particular, looked more and more unsure of himself as the game progressed.
There will be some sore bodies at recovery.
Who was actually playing on Nick Daicos? He got possessions but no way was he as influential as he has been.....doubt he would've even been in their best player list?
Who was actually playing on Nick Daicos? He got possessions but no way was he as influential as he has been.....doubt he would've even been in their best player list?
Hewett put some work into him but it seemed to depend on whose turn it was in the midfield rotations.
We haven't worried too much about keeping a tight rein on the Daicos boys, Sidebottom, etc in the past and it's come back to bite us on the butt. Our team defence worked a lot harder/better and that paid dividends.
Hewett put some work into him but it seemed to depend on whose turn it was in the midfield rotations.
We haven't worried too much about keeping a tight rein on the Diacos boys, Sidebottom, etc in the past and it's come back to bite us on the butt. Our team defence worked a lot harder/better and that paid dividends.
Agree.....Port showed last week with Drew tagging Nick hard that you can reduce their effectiveness....Josh was still good vs us getting the ball and using it well with a decent DE around 80% but Nick while still getting some ball only went at 52% and was clearly under pressure. You also look at their second tier mids in Sidebottom, Crisp, Adams etc and they were all average in terms of possies and effect, Adams only had 12 possessions and while our blokes didnt dominate with high possessions it was that pressure on their mids that dragged Collingwood back to the field in terms of stoppages and clearances where we had control.
The four quarter effort was the most pleasing aspect imho, we bring that effort every week and we wont lose a game for the rest of the season.
That frontal pressure. Pies like to score from their defensive chains creating hard run through the corridor. Our frontal pressure didn't allow them a clean kick out of defence to set that up. So often they were buried in defence under pressure turning it over to one of our players in the Pies normal "get out and set up" position. Other sides will pick that up. Voss did very well there.
Agree.....Port showed last week with Drew tagging Nick hard that you can reduce their effectiveness....Josh was still good vs us getting the ball and using it well with a decent DE around 80% but Nick while still getting some ball only went at 52% and was clearly under pressure. You also look at their second tier mids in Sidebottom, Crisp, Adams etc and they were all average in terms of possies and effect, Adams only had 12 possessions and while our blokes didnt dominate with high possessions it was that pressure on their mids that dragged Collingwood back to the field in terms of stoppages and clearances where we had control.
The four quarter effort was the most pleasing aspect imho, we bring that effort every week and we wont lose a game for the rest of the season.
I think that Steele must have misplaced his cloak of invisibility. Not once did he appear out of nowhere to accept a pass inside 50 🙂
If nothing else, Friday’s performance shows that our coaches and playing group have learnt from past experiences.
Collingwood’s not a great stoppage team and I was expecting us to be on top there. I was hoping that we could stop their run out of defence and I couldn’t be happier with how that panned out. We made the most out of our forward 50 entries and worked hard to keep the ball in our half. The wall we built across the centre of the G was formidable and Weiters and his crew mopped up anything that got past.
That same four quarter effort will be very hard to beat, regardless of the opposition, and that’s the challenge for Vossy and our leadership group.
Dare I say it, but we’re becoming just a little intimidating, both in terms of football ability and our attack on the aggott and the sucker who has possession.
Our Achilles’ heel is the bare cupboard that is our VFL team.
I think that Steele must have misplaced his cloak of invisibility. Not once did he appear out of nowhere to accept a pass inside 50 🙂
If nothing else, Friday’s performance shows that our coaches and playing group have learnt from past experiences.
Collingwood’s not a great stoppage team and I was expecting us to be on top there. I was hoping that we could stop their run out of defence and I couldn’t be happier with how that panned out. We made the most out of our forward 50 entries and worked hard to keep the ball in our half. The wall we built across the centre of the G was formidable and Weiters and his crew mopped up anything that got past.
That same four quarter effort will be very hard to beat, regardless of the opposition, and that’s the challenge for Vossy and our leadership group.
Dare I say it, but we’re becoming just a little intimidating, both in terms of football ability and our attack on the aggott and the sucker who has possession.
Our Achilles’ heel is the bare cupboard that is our VFL team.
Weitering was back to his best and I think he enjoyed the Collingwood setup with a taller more traditional forward line. To me its interesting how McStay has given Collingwood a different look and with Mihocek as well as Cox they looked slower and top heavy. I thought when they had the kid Johnson and Mihocek only in the first half of the season they looked more mobile and dangerous.
Likewise losing Harry to injury has given us a different look and Charlie is playing like a man possessed being the only specialist tall forward and our whole forward line has taken on a more dynamic look with less bombing the ball and more movement.
Im not saying we are better off without Harry overall but losing him has forced us to play different and look for other players ie Martin, Motlop etc and the Pies gaining McStay has made them different and I think we have a clear winner and its not Collingwood.
The point is that there's no logic or consistency to the way ruck infringements are adjudicated. If the two frees against De Koning were correct, at least ten other similar frees should have been paid. I don't know if there's much communication between the AFL and clubs about what constitutes a ruck infringement, but there should be more. It would be interesting to hear what the AFL/umpires think De Koning should have done when the ball bounced towards his side of the circle :-\
A good starting point would be to stop the umpire who bounces the ball from awarding free kicks for ruck interference at centre bounces. That umpire is so focused on the bounce and backing away from the contest that he/she does not have a good perspective to make such decisions.
A good starting point would be to stop the umpire who bounces the ball from awarding free kicks for ruck interference at centre bounces. That umpire is so focused on the bounce and backing away from the contest that he/she does not have a good perspective to make such decisions.
Too logical for the AFL RR?
Weird coaches votes this week, usually they are in pretty close accord but not this week, could be any of a few variants including;
9 - Charlie ( 5-4 )
7 - Newman ( 4-3 )
5 - Weitering ( 5 )
4 - Martin ( 2-2 )
3 - Cameron ( 3 )
2 - Cripps ( 1-1 )
or
9 - Charlie ( 5-4 )
7 - Newman ( 5-2 )
5 - Weitering ( 3 -2 )
4 - Martin ( 4 )
3 - Cameron ( 3 )
2 - Cripps ( 1-1 )
This is the sort of game we have stuffed up in the past. The team has worked damn hard to get to the position where it's destiny is in there own hands and while we now probably only need to win two of the next four to make the finals, this sort of thinking is dangerous and could lead to complacency and thinking we can win another down the track if we don't win this one. Our mindset should be to win the next four in a row and then win another four after that.
I thought Cripps' game was worth more than 2 votes.
Cerra was probably BOG at half time.
Cerra was probably BOG at half time.
Cerra did in 40% game time what Cripps did in 82% game time.
Definitely worthy of votes.
Not too much wrong with the coaches votes in the order, perhaps Martin or Cameron 1 or 2 too much, Cripps 1 or 2 not enough!
Cameron getting votes is unexpected. I would have had 5 or 6 Pies ahead of him.
He took some marks, kicked a goal and got more hitouts than Pitto, but we owned the stoppages. Take away the three inexplicable ruck infringement frees he was gifted and it becomes an ordinary performance.
As has been stated previously, none of the rucks had much impact.
Whilst I believe we’ll go on with it, we really do need to win next week to make this week count.
Amazing game. Could not be prouder.
BT or, as we refer to him at home ‘hindsight Hodge’ said - Collingwood had a 6 day interstate wet turnaround - does that matter? We missed Cerra after halftime, Walsh and JSOS entire game 🤷🏻♀️
Yes i remember them saying that loud and clear. I applaud Richo for coming straight back at them and said yeah maybe but Carlton are smashing them at clearances thats why they are winning. Some of the commentary from 7 callers sounded very bias at times for the other mob or maybe it was just me. AND not once did they mention the players we had missing vs a FULL strength other mob who also has a full list to choose from. So yeah this was a huge!!!!!!! win.
Whilst I believe we’ll go on with it, we really do need to win next week to make this week count.
Amazing game. Could not be prouder.
BT or, as we refer to him at home ‘hindsight Hodge’ said - Collingwood had a 6 day interstate wet turnaround - does that matter? We missed Cerra after halftime, Walsh and JSOS entire game 🤷🏻♀️
They were at full strength, we were far from it. Everyone can throw up every excuse they want, the win was top shelf no matter how you dice it, we forced the errors by applying immense pressure, we ran harder and longer than they did, we kicked straighter. EOS.
Yes i remember them saying that loud and clear. I applaud Richo for coming straight back at them and said yeah maybe but Carlton are smashing them at clearances thats why they are winning. Some of the commentary from 7 callers sounded very bias at times for the other mob or maybe it was just me. AND not once did they mention the players we had missing vs a FULL strength other mob who also has a full list to choose from. So yeah this was a huge!!!!!!! win.
I've watched the replay 3 times (twice sober) and there is one bloke who seems to be on our side, surprisingly, Luke Hodge! I think he really likes us?
They were at full strength, we were far from it. Everyone can throw up every excuse they want, the win was top shelf no matter how you dice it, we forced the errors by applying immense pressure, we ran harder and longer than they did, we kicked straighter. EOS.
Yep, we lost the bloke who was BOG very early into the 3rd quarter. We are now FIVE major soldiers down in personnel and still not getting anyone back anytime soon.
We're doing OK
I've watched the replay 3 times (twice sober) and there is one bloke who seems to be on our side, surprisingly, Luke Hodge! I think he really likes us?
I’m not sure that Hodge likes us but he is a genuine footy tragic who takes his role very seriously. I always appreciate his insights and analyses.
He’s another one of that Hawthorn crew that really know their footy.
Interesting we had 8 players who have played less than 50 games to Collingwood's 1. They had 5 guys who have played over 200 games to our zero.
Interesting we had 8 players who have played less than 50 games to Collingwood's 1. They had 5 guys who have played over 200 games to our zero.
As I said, no matter how you dice it, we dominated and smashed the competition leaders.
Interesting we had 8 players who have played less than 50 games to Collingwood's 1. They had 5 guys who have played over 200 games to our zero.
We're coming 💪