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As the fighting in Ukraine has shown us. there are things you wouldn't want to be 'sitting in' during the next major conflict-

A: Tanks
B: Most surface warships

As the 'Art of War' develops we see that previously very effective 'weapons' and tactics are often bypassed by new and more effective equipment or strategies.

Lines of troops in tightly packed formations would have been cut to pieces during WW1
Cavalry is another example and pretty much lost it's impact during WW1.
Trench warfare wouldn't have worked too well in WWW2

As the fighting in Ukraine has shown us. there are things you wouldn't want to be 'sitting in' during the next major conflict-

A: Tanks
B: Most surface warships

As the 'Art of War' develops we see that previously very effective 'weapons' and tactics are often bypassed by new and more effective equipment or strategies.

Lines of troops in tightly packed formations would have been cut to pieces during WW1
Cavalry is another example and pretty much lost it's impact during WW1.
Trench warfare wouldn't have worked too well in WWW2

As the fighting in Ukraine has shown us. there are things you wouldn't want to be 'sitting in' during the next major conflict-

A: Tanks
B: Most surface warships

These things in isolation are a problem.

However if fighting were raging modern surveillance would curtail the effectiveness of everything.  CCTV is also a factor here.

Its interesting.   We here about the odd thing Ukraine does and its celebrated as a major victory and the russians advancing on the midpoint of the nation and their capital is them having had an issue when its taken roughly a month to get there.  Im not an expert on these matters but its hardly the failure the news makes it out to be.

There are a few ways to measure 'failure'. Firstly, Putin's expectation was that this incursion would be swift, Zelensky would have fled, and the Ukraine would now be his - failure. On another level, the human level, civilian suffering and death - failure, though Putin would easily justify this as the price of 'nobility.' Excessive Russian military personnel deaths - failure, though Putin would easily justify this as the price of 'nobility.' Hardship for Russian citizens from sanctions - failure, though Putin would rely on his state media spin to pull the wool over the eyes of his citizens.

So far about the only thing Putin has achieved, in the broader view, is to galvanize billions of global citizens against Russia and to be sympathetic toward the Ukraine. Failure. And to have raised Zelensky to hero status... that must gall him.

About the only thing Putin has succeeded at thus far is murder, rape, confusion and suffering.

Are you sure thats what putin was thinking? According to his quoted generals, yes. Along with military strategists who've served in war zones. Russians who've spoke of what Putin is thinking are unanimous in their opinion that he is attempting to rebuild 'old Russia'. The break-up of the USSR galled him and still does. Odour of Adolph, eh! Like many similar leaders he's sees himself (likely) as a saviour. And his ego would want a heroic legacy.

Some people have become mind readers. If you're having a go at me, then you are wrong. See above. If there was anything I learned in the military, and serving in a war zone it was to research and learn from those who came before me on how to read a conflict through a thorough understanding of your enemy (Ss&ws) and an honest appraisal of your own Ss&Ws). If he wanted a swift victory, I suspect he might have sent in a scorched earth policy rather than the tinker round the edges approach they have employed until now. Putin has already acknowledged the incompetence of his military. And never underestimate arrogance and the perspective/thinking of a former KGB leader. He saw himself as a liberator with considerable support (and welcoming arms) from E Ukraine. Got that very wrong.

The innocent people of all nations are the first and major casualties of any war but I find the mindset of "neutral observers" fascinating when they champion efforts that they look at through the lens of bad guys vs good guys. As has been quoted before, the first casualty of war is truth, and then the sanctity of life, which becomes a myth in a war zone. On a personal note, the very first reality that hit me very strongly when I found myself in a war zone at the tender age of 17 was just how worthless my life was.

Oh and when it comes to Ukraine, the russians consider this a civil matter rather than a war between two nations which speaks for why they aren't just killing at will and scorching the earth. Doesn't matter whether it is regarded by Russia as a civil matter or not... humans are being murdered and raped. That's all that is important. Excuses/reasons are meaningless.

These things in isolation are a problem.

However if fighting were raging modern surveillance would curtail the effectiveness of everything.  CCTV is also a factor here.

Its interesting.   We here about the odd thing Ukraine does and its celebrated as a major victory and the russians advancing on the midpoint of the nation and their capital is them having had an issue when its taken roughly a month to get there.  Im not an expert on these matters but its hardly the failure the news makes it out to be.

In the context of Russia’s overwhelming troop, tank, artillery, missile and naval forces and air superiority, it is a catastrophic failure.