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Reply #795 – May 25, 2022, 11:13:32 am

While my heart goes out to the parents who've lost children and the family of the teacher who was killed, I couldn't care less about expressing solidarity with Americans. This is an endless cycle: school and mass shootings followed by thoughts and prayers and nothing else. They should treat these murder victims as martyrs to the cause of arming everyone to the teeth. And their deaths will be a boon for gun manufacturers. Whenever there's any call for restrictions on gun ownership, sales go through the roof as "concerned citizens" make sure they get their hands on them before any laws come in. Not that they should be afraid: no laws will be passed and SCOTUS will strike down those that do. After a short while, the NRA will use the shootings as a call to arms: arm teachers with guns and the only way to deal with a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.

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Reply #796 – May 25, 2022, 11:23:37 am

Quote from: capcom on May 25, 2022, 11:11:18 am

The US Constitution says otherwise. But it should.

No, the Constitution protects the right of militias to bear arms. There was no need to interpret that as guaranteeing the right of an individual to buy a gun. Earlier rulings that interpreted the right more narrowly were overturned by conservative justices on the Supreme Court. SCOTUS is and will always be a political animal. Unfortunately, Democrats have been asleep at the wheel when it comes to ensuring the court isn't packed with right-wing hacks. Hillary warned Democrats to turn out to vote to protect constitutional rights. That should have been obvious to anyone with a brain cell given that McConnell had blocked Merrick Garland's nomination for a vacant seat on SCOTUS. The election was going to decide whether the balance between left and right wing justices would continue or Trump would get a chance to tilt the Court in favour of right-wing causes. But even though she won the popular vote, she bled votes from short-sighted Bernie Bros and other progressives who thought it was more important to manoevre for control of the Democratic Party.

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Reply #797 – May 25, 2022, 11:29:50 am

While the issue is politicised nobody can win, it's time for average American to rise up and say enough is enough. They should protest against the NRA in the streets by their millions in much the same way the fluffer nutters protested against the election!

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Reply #798 – May 25, 2022, 11:49:45 am

One viewing of doomsday preppers should throw fears into many.

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Reply #799 – May 25, 2022, 12:07:26 pm

I read an interesting article a while back about the doomsday preppers being less of a monoculture than you'd imagine. The type of doomsday prepper we see on TV is at the more macho end of the spectrum. They're the guys who are all about securing resources and being prepared to repel the hordes who might want to steal them when the apocalypse comes. Guns take pride of place for those guys. But on 4Chan, there are more female-oriented doomsday prepper threads which are more about how to preserve social networks if the worst eventuates. Those who post on those threads are more interested in making sure they can grow their food and share that knowledge (and initially the produce) with neighbours in times of need. They also discuss what books and films they should preserve, how to make their own female hygience products and contraceptives and the like as well as preserving what they'll need to teach their children.

Post-apocalyptic shows tend to swing between these 2 ends of the spectrum. On Walking Dead, there'll be idyllic communities which are more like hippie communes but then they'll be overrun by Mad Max types who rape and pillage.

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Reply #800 – May 25, 2022, 12:21:14 pm

Quote from: Mav on May 25, 2022, 12:07:26 pm

Post-apocalyptic shows tend to swing between these 2 ends of the spectrum. On Walking Dead, there'll be idyllic communities which are more like hippie communes but then they'll be overrun by Mad Max types who rape and pillage.

Do you think the Interweb might have "borrowed" this concept from H.G. Wells, it seems to be a bit Eloi versus Morlocks?

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Reply #801 – May 25, 2022, 12:47:42 pm

Quote from: Mav on May 25, 2022, 11:13:32 am

While my heart goes out to the parents who've lost children and the family of the teacher who was killed, I couldn't care less about expressing solidarity with Americans. This is an endless cycle: school and mass shootings followed by thoughts and prayers and nothing else. They should treat these murder victims as martyrs to the cause of arming everyone to the teeth. And their deaths will be a boon for gun manufacturers. Whenever there's any call for restrictions on gun ownership, sales go through the roof as "concerned citizens" make sure they get their hands on them before any laws come in. Not that they should be afraid: no laws will be passed and SCOTUS will strike down those that do. After a short while, the NRA will use the shootings as a call to arms: arm teachers with guns and the only way to deal with a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.

How much longer can a nation burry their heads in the sand and not address gun reform once and for all.

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Reply #802 – May 25, 2022, 02:13:09 pm

Indefinitely, unfortunately.

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Reply #803 – May 25, 2022, 03:15:09 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton on May 25, 2022, 12:47:42 pm

How much longer can a nation burry their heads in the sand and not address gun reform once and for all.

I heard a snippet on the radio before.

I believe it was Biden who was talking about tighter gun control needs to come in after the recent events.

Obama said similar and was quickly put back in his box by the NRA, lets see if the same happens to Biden.

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Reply #804 – May 25, 2022, 06:33:21 pm

Just like clockwork: Top Texas Republicans Call For More Guns, Fortified Schools, Armed Teachers After Attack, Huffpost.

I think every student and every teacher should be required to carry guns. Even a 4 year old should carry one. And just for good measure, we should ensure a cop with an anger management problem and several guns is assigned to every school .

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Reply #805 – May 25, 2022, 06:35:59 pm

Quote from: Mav on May 25, 2022, 02:13:09 pm

Indefinitely, unfortunately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5x4eHn_3tA

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Reply #806 – May 25, 2022, 08:32:15 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton on May 25, 2022, 06:35:59 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5x4eHn_3tA

Decent bloke is Steve Kerr and a very good coach but unfortunately I don't see those 50 senators doing anything.

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Reply #807 – May 25, 2022, 08:36:49 pm

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on May 25, 2022, 08:32:15 pm

Decent bloke is Steve Kerr and a very good coach but unfortunately I don't see those 50 senators doing anything.

Well I hope they sleep well tonight the Kents.

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Reply #808 – May 26, 2022, 07:10:07 am

I'm not a religious person.
I don't regard myself as a vindictive person.

But there's a part of me that kind of hopes there is a form of 'Afterlife' where people are held accountable for the evil that they do.

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Reply #809 – May 26, 2022, 07:19:13 am

Quote from: Lods on May 26, 2022, 07:10:07 am

I'm not a religious person.
I don't regard myself as a vindictive person.

But there's a part of me that kind of hopes there is a form of 'Afterlife' where people are held accountable for the evil that they do.

I'm generally not vindictive either however what will take to change things in that god for saken country. It seems to be that innocent children and parents suffer the most with this gun violence stuff. Abhorent to even say but I wonder if a handful of the senators were to lose children in a massacre, would that force them into action?
Simple background checks would have potentially stopped this latest one, a simple bill these mongrels won't pass and have been sitting on for 2 years. This piece of garbage simply walked into a store on his birthday and purchased 2 assault rifles and is now firmly cast in their retched history.
ENOUGH!