AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

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Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #45 – June 26, 2022, 09:48:38 am

Quote from: Gointocarlton on June 25, 2022, 09:41:54 pm

Jordan Lewis: "I like it Howey, This Carlton side has got a nastiness about them, which you can't say that they have had in the past five, maybe even longer"
Jono Brown: "Well it'll have something to do with the coach"
Jordan Lewis "But right now, they are physically and mentally and verbally intimidating"
Brought a tear to this old Bluebaggers eye. Finally!!

Likewise.

Those words (from Lewis & Jono) made the hairs on the back of this little black duck's neck stand on end. This wasn't only our best game for the year, this was the best game from the CFC in many, many years. Especially when you consider the calibre of the opposition and our injury list. Every single player at Marvel Stadium last night honoured the navy guernsey, did the club proud. The bar has been raised, officially, at PP... now to repeat it.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #46 – June 26, 2022, 09:54:45 am

Quote from: Baggers on June 26, 2022, 09:48:38 am

Likewise.

Those words (from Lewis & Jono) made the hairs on the back of this little black duck's neck stand on end. This wasn't only our best game for the year, this was the best game from the CFC in many, many years. Especially when you consider the calibre of the opposition and our injury list. Every single player at Marvel Stadium last night honoured the navy guernsey, did the club proud. The bar has been raised, officially, at PP... now to repeat it.

Its very much about that at present too. I reckon once a week a see a player tug on their CFC logo after a big goal. This week it was Charlie.

They spoke to Jack after the game and asked him what he thought about it, the first thing he said was that he was happy to see so many Carlton fans out and be able to make them proud.

Also good to see every single player on the ground run to Newnes to celebrate his goal in his 200th.

Boys are united.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #47 – June 26, 2022, 09:58:31 am

Quote from: LP on June 26, 2022, 09:23:32 am

Agreed, but I have one reservation.

I'm not sure at all that you can play that game style week in and week out, fans think it's great, but it takes a toll. You need to have a few different ways to win a game, because the level of repeat running we saw yesterday from the guys like LoB, Fisher, Walsh, Cottrell and Boyd is not really sustainable week after week.

One of the things that made Nthmond successful was that they had more than one tempo, they rarely played more than a half of berserka type footy. They also played the tempo game very well. Yesterday, while it made fans happy, it was 4-Qtrs of finals beserka footy.

I suspect with a 6 day break we will have a lot less run next Friday night against the Aints, it will be intriguing to see how Voss manages the tactics.

Yes and no.

The running from Walsh and Cottrell is very much repeatable. 2 of the fittest blokes in the AFL who are among the top 2 for ground covered almost every match. They don't give out a list past the top 5, but LOB has been in that previously.

That being said....
You don't NEED to win like that every week.
Some weeks its easier than other weeks.

Freo have been on a roll of late. They've knocked off both the Dees and the Lions (and the Hawks last week) so they are up there with the best in the league. THIS is exactly the game you need to play that way....and we did.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #48 – June 26, 2022, 02:19:11 pm

it was great to win in that manner yesterday,we finally played 4 Q,hopefully we can play the same way at the MCG

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #49 – June 26, 2022, 02:19:50 pm

Quote from: LP on June 26, 2022, 09:23:32 am

Agreed, but I have one reservation.

I'm not sure at all that you can play that game style week in and week out, fans think it's great, but it takes a toll. You need to have a few different ways to win a game, because the level of repeat running we saw yesterday from the guys like LoB, Fisher, Walsh, Cottrell and Boyd is not really sustainable week after week.

One of the things that made Nthmond successful was that they had more than one tempo, they rarely played more than a half of berserka type footy. They also played the tempo game very well. Yesterday, while it made fans happy, it was 4-Qtrs of finals beserka footy.

I suspect with a 6 day break we will have a lot less run next Friday night against the Aints, it will be intriguing to see how Voss manages the tactics.

We still played tempo footy for periods, but not for as long as we have in other games.

Walsh, Cottrell, Newnes, O'Brien and probably a few others could back that up almost immediately. That's a tribute to their professionalism and the work of the Terrier.

Another factor is that you expend less energy when you dominate inside 50s, tackles inside 50, uncontested possessions, disposal efficiency, centre clearances, etc. The Frockers were running around like blue-asked flies and I suspect that they were more fatigued than we were.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #50 – June 26, 2022, 02:35:42 pm

Quote from: LP on June 26, 2022, 09:23:32 am

One of the things that made Nthmond successful was that they had more than one tempo, they rarely played more than a half of berserka type footy. They also played the tempo game very well. Yesterday, while it made fans happy, it was 4-Qtrs of finals beserka footy.

I actually think we phased the tempo perfectly. Frenetic all out attack when we extracted the ball from the centre, and patience in building an avenue to attack when we had possession down back.

It’s great (finally!) to see the players resist the tendency to take the “near enough is good enough” option in favour of the single best available option.

What I can’t get over is how our field kicking has improved. We’ve gone from god-awful ‘chip it up and turn-it-over merchants’, to a team which passes with clinical precision.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #51 – June 26, 2022, 03:16:38 pm

Two different views of the Newnes goal.

Commentator A (let's call him BT)

"They get around Jack Newnes, surely that's not his first goal for the football club"

(He must have missed the one against Freo after the siren in 2020)

They've all come to him We're a bit mystified"

"It's his 200th"

"The players really know their numbers these days don't they, 200 goals?"

"No it's his 200th game"

Oh well, that's about games.
Big deal.
Chair him off, chair him to the interchange.

Commentator B
(As the players get around Newnes)

"If you want to know what culture looks like on the field. That's it right there!"

Surprisingly I think B was actually Jordan Lewis (no Carlton lover)

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #52 – June 26, 2022, 03:22:31 pm

I listened to creeping Longmuir saying how they would stretch our defensive crisis. As if it was a hard-nose uber smart strategy. Although it probably was just that, it made me nauseous.

Come game day. We had 2 injuries to cover, then another at warm-up. I wasn't confident we'd be competitive for 4q. Much less dominate 4q with a pattern of play that ebbed and flowed with momentum. The thing that made sense was something Walshy said months ago. He said Vossy wants us to play what's in front of us.

That sounds easy enough but at that time seemed unreachable. Yesterday, even though we were outstretched and outreached, we achieved that goal.

It looked like every single player, including a handful with less than 20 games under their belt did just that. The boys played what was in front of them!! To perfection I might add.

Vossy's plan of adding layers to our game is now on show. We've won in a variety of ways. We will face challenges we have no answer for, but the boys now have a repertoire of options. Our leaders have experience changing tactic when needed.

They were brilliant yesterday.. Vossy is the man.. and he's got the right crew behind him. Longmuir moping was the cherry on top.

Go Blues

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #53 – June 26, 2022, 03:55:41 pm

Quote from: Lods on June 26, 2022, 03:16:38 pm

Two different views of the Newnes goal.

Commentator A (let's call him BT)

"They get around Jack Newnes, surely that's not his first goal for the football club"
(He must have missed the one against Freo after the siren in 2020)

They've all come to him We're a bit mystified"

"It's his 200th"

"The players really know their numbers these days don't they, 200 goals?"

"No it's his 200th game"

Oh well, that's about games.
Big deal.
Chair him off, chair him to the interchange.

Commentator B
(As the players get around Newnes)

"If you want to know what culture looks like on the field. That's it right there!"

Surprisingly I think B was actually Jordan Lewis (no Carlton lover)

I'd call Commentator A
Uninformed Commentator DH.
Falsely posing as Commentator A, when he's not a commentator of any name, colour, or creed 🤥

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #54 – June 26, 2022, 08:44:49 pm

Quote from: Baggers on June 26, 2022, 09:48:38 am

Likewise.

Those words (from Lewis & Jono) made the hairs on the back of this little black duck's neck stand on end. This wasn't only our best game for the year, this was the best game from the CFC in many, many years. Especially when you consider the calibre of the opposition and our injury list. Every single player at Marvel Stadium last night honoured the navy guernsey, did the club proud. The bar has been raised, officially, at PP... now to repeat it.

And another thing, I loved Vossy's presser where he spoke about not looking at who we haven't got (ie injured) but focussing on who we do have. I love this attitude, I love this focus, its one thing for a coach to talk it, its another to actually walk it and drive a group of men to execute it.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #55 – June 26, 2022, 08:49:27 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton on June 26, 2022, 08:44:49 pm

And another thing, I loved Vossy's presser where he spoke about not looking at who we haven't got (ie injured) but focussing on who we do have. I love this attitude, I love this focus, its one thing for a coach to talk it, its another to actually walk it and drive a group of men to execute it.

Authentic leadership that embodies inclusive culture. Once that part's in place and the players experience it, success will follow IMO

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #56 – June 26, 2022, 08:50:09 pm

Great win - just watched it. Browny was pretty enthusiastic about LOB's work rate and he loves Walshy.

I kind of like Mark Howard as a commentator - he seems to have brought his style in from big-bash - knowing where he can contribute and will ask the others questions about the game or what the others have said. Is passionate where he needs to be as well as being a bit understated, without the hyperbole of some.

Again for those at the game , the commentators remarked on how big the noise was when Charlie kicked one of goals - would have been great to have been there and part of it.

Isn't it amazing how expectations of game day have turned 180 degrees!

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #57 – June 26, 2022, 08:52:37 pm

Motlop only 5 touches but he had 5 tackles and 20 pressure acts.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #58 – June 26, 2022, 08:57:16 pm

Quote from: madbluboy on June 26, 2022, 08:52:37 pm

Motlop only 5 touches but he had 5 tackles and 20 pressure acts.

Did well I thought. I wonder if his tackle on one of their talls ?Logue was included. He hung on and got spun around like a pole dancer.

Re: AFL Rd 15 2022 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Fremantle

Reply #59 – June 26, 2022, 08:59:06 pm

Quote from: madbluboy on June 26, 2022, 08:52:37 pm

Motlop only 5 touches but he had 5 tackles and 20 pressure acts.

Yep
Noticed him at times running to repeat contests.
That was a bit of a contrast to a recent VFL game where he seemed disinterested.
A work in progress.