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Reply #1635 –
I think that Charlie Teo is a tall poppy based on what I've read about it.  The tell is that he's being criticused for offering a cure and then not being able to deliver.

I dont think any medical professional guarantees outcomes.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #1636 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Dunno if anyone has followed the Charlie Teo story, whilst he does come across as an arrogant prick, I shudder to think how many lives he has saved. It seems to me now that for a couple cases whereby the outcomes weren't great, he has been taken to the cleaners by the establishment. Now I don't know the exact details of the two cases but I'll tell you one thing. Touch wood however if I am ever struck down with one of the terminal illnesses of the type he specialises in, he'd be my go to man to take the risks on me that no one else will to give me a shot a more time on this Earth. The way I see it, if you're calling on him for his services, the outlook is pretty bleak anyway, what more damage can he possibly do? Yes his fees are said to be outrageous by some but I find the treatment of people like him pretty ordinary.

I'm not too fussed about Charlie Teo.

Mrs DJC's neurosurgeon is a ripper; both as a person and in practising his craft.  I reckon that if he couldn't sort out your brainbox, no-one could.

It is a very team-oriented field.  Mrs DJC's surgical treatment was mapped out by the neurosurgeon, her neurologist and a radiologist.  The surgery was performed by the neurosurgeon, an assistant, a general surgeon, with the mandatory anaesthetist of course.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #1637 –
I've read somewhere that QANTAS CEO Alan Joyce is departing with some massive bonus, I think it surfaced as part of the Senate investigations. Now it's surfacing he's been leading an organisation that has systematically ripped off regular citizens, some having been dudded of once in a lifetime holidays by dodgy QANTAS ticket sales for ghost flights (Flights that no longer or never existed!)

In the meantime, it's reported this Joyce gets a bonus of up to $27M, that might also be a media beat up, but is any bonus at all acceptable in the circumstance?

I'd be clamping Joyce's bank account and making sure he doesn't leave the country before the senate investigation is finished!

We kibosh politicians over a bottle of Grange or some other undeclared gift, and this Joyce is going to pocket million$ for managing a company that is basically conducting corporatised theft.
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #1638 –
This is typical of everything that has happened over the last few years.  Don't get me started about public organisations and the "covid credit card".

Ultimately, the Australian super standards are such, that these profits get delivered to shareholders, that prop up super annuation, which means that the government get to take money from the pension fund, and the better Australian public listed companies perform, the better for everyone.

That means, that as bad as all this is, its only thieving from people to give back to them anyway and pay a bunch of people in the process, which stimulates the economy and creates employment.

Ultimately when push comes to shove, when you hear the government going soft in this regards, its going to cost more to go hard, than its worth.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #1639 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
Ultimately when push comes to shove, when you hear the government going soft in this regards, its going to cost more to go hard, than its worth.
So are you asserting that somehow the saving$ justify the crime?

There are many legitimate ways QANTAS could have raised funds to survive COVID, helped by politicians if necessary, without stooping to theft!

PS; Have QANTAS just "survived" the pandemic, didn't it announce a huge profit recently off the back of slashing thousands of workers due to pandemic duress?
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #1640 –
Quote from: LP on
So are you asserting that somehow the saving$ justify the crime?

There are many legitimate ways QANTAS could have raised funds to survive COVID, helped by politicians if necessary, without stooping to theft!

PS; Have QANTAS just "survived" the pandemic, didn't it announce a huge profit recently off the back of slashing thousands of workers due to pandemic duress?

no, what Im asserting is that when there is a financial incentive to go soft, they will because ultimately, there is no gain in having to take money off Qantas, and by extension its shareholders.

When Qantas shares are propping up the super funds, that means better pension outcomes for people on managed super funds.  Make them pay back covid payments, means costing jobs, means potentially sinking the last "Australian" international airline, means those costs get pushed back onto future travellers, means sinking share prices, means sinking super funds, means more penisoners means less money in government coffers, and ultimately a poorer quality of life all around.

I live in reality.  If the cost of doing something outweighs the benefit in doing so, why do it?

Because morally or legally thats the right thing to do?


What Im saying is prepare for the wet lettuce leaf!

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #1641 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
I live in reality.  If the cost of doing something outweighs the benefit in doing so, why do it?

Because morally or legally thats the right thing to do?
The public already think of politicians a crooked, you have been a very loud exponent of as much during the pandemic.

In that context and inclusive of executives, how can you rationalise a circumstance that says if you do enough public good($$$) we'll ignore, forget or forgive your crime?

If the world took that perspective of "reality" it would artificially create a circumstance that is open to crooks and charlatans to manipulate in their favour without consequence. They could take their "bonus" as long as they generate billion$ in the process all will be forgiven, isn't that Putin, Trump, Xi or Bolsonaro?

Alan Joyce is not Robin Hood, his organisation has been ripping off the little people to give to the wealthy, and making many more everyday types redundant in the process, many of those most badly hurt will have little or no direct or indirect stock in QANTAS.
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #1642 –
Joyce has timed his departure very well and will be somewhere else when the sh1t hits the fan. 

QANTAS will be hit very hard for their fraudulent behaviour.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #1643 –
Super funds make their money out of the Miners and Big banks....Qantas are small fry in terms of profits and dividends and wouldnt feature in the top 20 holdings of most super funds and if they did would be at a small weighting.
Qantas havent paid a dividend for 4 years.....
The Government couldnt allow Qatar Airlines to access to internal Aus routes and feck up the status quo and hit the Qantas bottom line straight after CoVid. If Albanese had presided over the demise of Qantas profits causing job losses and possible loss of the iconic Aus Airline as we know it he would have been hung, drawn and quartered so I get he why he refused competition for Qantas and protected jobs etc at the expense of higher air fares for the public . The case of selling airfares for cancelled flights is another issue and imho a management issue rather than an airline issue. Joyce and those at the top making those decisions need fining individually rather than punishing the airline as a whole and having it crippled with what looks like a fine around 300-600 million.
The previous highest fine for corporate skullduggery in Aus was around $125 million for the morally bankrupt Volkswagen Group so the ACCC are really wanting to go hard at Qantas and I cant see the company being able to continue in its present form if it cops a fine of that nature which will in turn affect tourism and airline travel in Aus imo.

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Reply #1644 –
Quote from: DJC on
Joyce has timed his departure very well and will be somewhere else when the sh1t hits the fan. 

QANTAS will be hit very hard for their fraudulent behaviour.
So it begins, and the morons in the media are celebrating Joyce's early departure like it's a punishment! :o

It's like giving the kid who started all the shizen a hall pass before you line the rest up for cuts!
The Force Awakens!
 

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Reply #1645 –
I see Landcruiser 70s are going all electric with some 200 on order for use in and around mining sites across Australia.

It won't be long before this filters down into surrounding towns as mining companies start to pop up charging points here and there.

This is sure to cause some gnashing of teeth around the traps!
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #1646 –
Quote from: LP on
I see Landcruiser 70s are going all electric with some 200 on order for use in and around mining sites across Australia.

It won't be long before this filters down into surrounding towns as mining companies start to pop up charging points here and there.

This is sure to cause some gnashing of teeth around the traps!
I hope the vehicles are all IS.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #1647 –
Quote from: LP on
I see Landcruiser 70s are going all electric with some 200 on order for use in and around mining sites across Australia.

It won't be long before this filters down into surrounding towns as mining companies start to pop up charging points here and there.

This is sure to cause some gnashing of teeth around the traps!

Wasn't this talked about 12 months ago?

Supposedly 70-100 on order for the mines IIRC. Didn't think this was new news.

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Reply #1648 –
Quote from: kruddler on
Wasn't this talked about 12 months ago?

Supposedly 70-100 on order for the mines IIRC. Didn't think this was new news.
I thought the 70s going all electric was a new development, I think we talked about Toorak tractors in the past.
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #1649 –
Quote from: LP on
I thought the 70s going all electric was a new development, I think we talked about Toorak tractors in the past.

Well maybe i read it elsewhere, but i thought it was discussed on here.