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baggers, I got taught to love myself as I was and nature made me the way I was intended.

The whole idea of self loathe and change runs contrary to what I would deem being a well adjusted human being. 

There is nothing about behaviour that makes a man a man and a woman a woman.

Its only biology. 

How many grasshoppers have had sex change procedures?

Not many these days, there used to be plagues of grasshopper surgeons, but pesticides have dramatically reduced the numbers.

Remember Thry, science doesn’t care about what you believe.

Did you read about the Australian grasshopper species that hasn’t had any males for millions of years?

Rigid binary gender is a western cultural/religious construct that doesn’t have much to do with biology.

I worked with a trans gender woman for several years.  She was one of happiest, creative, well-adjusted people I have ever met.  Very different to how she was as a man.

@thry...
What about people born with a tail?
What about people born with an extra appendage?

Sometimes nature f**ks up.
Sometimes it's easier to see and accept it's mistakes as it appears obvious. Sometimes, less so.

I want to see more tolerance in the world, not less. 

So, what you're telling me, is that science doesn't care what people believe about their identity, because their biology is what nature intended them to be?  Isn't that what the science tells us?

Djc what i say isn't about belief, and I think you've inferred something here and you are arguing a point with the wrong person.

Its not religious or about religion.  Im Greek.  We invented sexual ambiguity.

Nature has designed species that can transition organically.

Humans cannot do this. 

I know one who is chronically unwell.  The hormones give her headaches (born male).

When I say its just biology I mean it.

Ironically science doesn't care what people believe their identity should be.  Their biology disagrees.  When I state a well adjusted human accepts their body for what it is, its about self love.  Imperfections and all. 

Imagine being blind, or deaf, or born with a physical disability.   These people don't insist there is nothing wrong with them.  They simplify their life by not worrying about what they don't have, but accepting what they have, recognising that they will walk a different path than most humans and making the most of it.  When my dad died at age 56, I was 22.  My whole survival of that trauma was built on ACCEPTANCE of what I cannot change.  Why do you think seeing people fight what they CANNOT CHANGE is something I instantly dismiss?  Its not about religion, it hits me at that spot that helped me make peace with my dads passing.

I’m sure Erin Phillips would be able to meet the challenge.

By the way, you may see the only issue as being eligibility for womens’ sports but surely you realise that there are others who focus on the wider issue of whether gender reassignment is evil in itself? My comments were directed to that issue.