How's me of all people starting a World Cup thread? I know SFA about the game but follow it whenever the Aussies play. From the untrained eye such as mine, our squads looks like one of the worst we have ever gone in with.
I'm sure they'll give it there all but the talent compared to other countries just isn't there. One of our best players in Rogic isn't even in the squad, something isn't right there. Would have preferred Ange as coach, Arnold comes across as a battler who is just in the same league as other coaches. We'll make up numbers and surely this will be curtains for him. Would love better than to knock off the Frogs on Wed morning, Ill be up watching.
Go the Socceroos.
Im tipping Argentina to take the tournament.
Brazil and Portugal the other ones I'd be looking at as the potential winners.
Australia's chances are slim, but a chance is better than none, but this batch of soccerwhos are not going to achieve much.
Hope the AFL doesn’t get too many ideas from the World Cup. Imagine $21 beers. But I’m guessing the AFL would never follow the in-ground beer ban.
4-1 v France, I thought it would be 5-0 TBH. The gulf in talent and class between the sides was obvious.
4-1 v France, I thought it would be 5-0 TBH. The gulf in talent and class between the sides was obvious.
Had they finished their chances better they would have put 7 in. I thought we started very plucky and were doing what we could to stifle them, but when they went through the gears there was no going with them. Going up 1-0 was possibly the worst thing that happened, because as soon as it did, they just really turned it up and went for it.
Had they finished their chances better they would have put 7 in. I thought we started very plucky and were doing what we could to stifle them, but when they went through the gears there was no going with them. Going up 1-0 was possibly the worst thing that happened, because as soon as it did, they just really turned it up and went for it.
That early goal seemed to anger the French. We went too defensive IMO, should have taken a leaf out of Saudi Arabia's book v Arg, All or nothing.
We went too defensive IMO, should have taken a leaf out of Saudi Arabia's book v Arg, All or nothing.
Agreed, I think we shizened the bed when we went a goal up early and it wasn't our kids that failed, it was some of the older blokes who seemed start struck by the French. It's like some of the squad went into the match with a "We can't defeat them" mindset!
Agreed, I think we shizened the bed when we went a goal up early and it wasn't our kids that failed, it was some of the older blokes who seemed start struck by the French. It's like some of the squad went into the match with a "We can't defeat them" mindset!
We need a new Jedinak in the back half. He controlled games and wasn't intimidated by gun gwds, in fact, he intimidated them.
Sometimes you just have to accept when a team is way better than you. The French have been to the euro finals in 2016, and are current world champs for a reason.
Don't look at the last time when we pinched a result off them when they were sleeping. They are much better than that, and as much as I would like to see the Australian national team achieve something, this is arguably the least talented side I have seen represent the country at this level.
No Australian player would be even close to making the French squad.
, this is arguably the least talented side I have seen represent the country at this level.
No being a 24x7 follower of soccer I've read a lot of old heads in media today to get a specialist perspective, they are bitching and moaning about player development, but I think they are basically potting the youth in the squad to cover for the old boys who underperformed, the specialist commentators are basically looking after their mates / former team-mates. They complain about the kids in the squad, then in the next breath they complain about Australia's poor player development of kids, it is a stupidly polarising and pointless complaint.
Some would read it as a side swipe towards the coach, so not much has changed, it is the same old same old.
You can see why blokes don't want the job, it's a poison chalice.
The usual pundits who have made a living bashing Australia and it's culture have been very quiet recently. I wonder why.
No being a 24x7 follower of soccer I've read a lot of old heads in media today to get a specialist perspective, they are bitching and moaning about player development, but I think they are basically potting the youth in the squad to cover for the old boys who underperformed, the specialist commentators are basically looking after their mates / former team-mates. They complain about the kids in the squad, then in the next breath they complain about Australia's poor player development of kids, it is a stupidly polarising and pointless complaint.
Some would read it as a side swipe towards the coach, so not much has changed, it is the same old same old.
You can see why blokes don't want the job, it's a poison chalice.
The bitching and moaning comes from the likes of Craig Foster who has delusions of grandeur. The reality is, that the French have a system and soccer culture that has been churning out champion players since I remember walking and talking.
Who pray tell are the old boys?
Aaron Mooy, Aziz Behich and Matthew Leckie? They were arguably the better players on the park for Australia particularly in possession. The main culprit is the coach who is part of soccers Sydney Mafia (the one that ruined Australian Cricket).
This is what tells the story best:
According to Transfermarkt.com which is as good a guide on a players worth in the international market place as any:
https://www.transfermarkt.com/kylian-mbappe/profil/spieler/342229
Kylian Mbappe. One player albeit an absolute star of the game and gun. Paris St. Germain, playing with superstars like Lionel Messi and Neymar.
Current market value 160 million Euros.
Australia's team that faced France:
Mathew Ryan - Fc Copenhagen Denmark second string keeper. 5 million euros
Nathaniel Atkinson - ASC Cham in the German lower leagues unrated lets put him at 700k euros.
Harry Souttar - Stoke City English Championship (second division) 4.5 million euros
Kye Rowles - Heart of Midlothian Scottish Premier League - 600k euros
Aziz Behich - Dundee United Scottish Premier League - 700k euros
Jackson Irvine - FC St. German 2nd division Pauli - 2 million euros.
Aaron Mooy - Celtic Scottish Premier League 4 million euros.
Riley McGree - Middlesborough FC - English Championship (second division) - 2.00 million euros
Mathew Leckie - Melbourne City A League - 800k - euros
Mitchell Duke - Fagiano Okayama Japan - 800k euros
Craig Goodwin - Adelaide United A league - 1.2 million euros.
Total squad value: 22.3 million euros.
It speaks volumes.
The Australian "old boys" are all at worst, 32 years of age and playing youngsters cements a generation of pavlovs dogs doesnt it? Timmy Cahill at aged 35 and 36 was miles above what any of this team can offer us today. Age is literally just a number.
Argentina fielded 4 players over the age of 35, and whilst they didn't win against the Saudis who were stoic, they dominated general play and created more chances which usually means that they win 95% of the time with the odd outlier going the other way.
That French team has representation of players who are both older and younger, and represent top teams, gaining better experience in high pressure situations against higher calibre opponents and teamates most of the year, whilst the motley crue that represented us are playing in some cases in leagues where guys arent proper professionals.
Yes, I understand.
In the context I use it "Old boys" isn't an ageist term, it's about relationships and inner circles.
Does FA have a long term plan, and if so does it have the wherewithal to actually see it through?
Yes, I understand.
In the context I use it "Old boys" isn't an ageist term, it's about relationships and inner circles.
Does FA have a long term plan, and if so does it have the wherewithal to actually see it through?
At the end of the day, France's bench would have wiped the floor with us. A guy that didn't even make the field is playing for Arsenal in the English Premier League (William Saliba) is rated at 50 million euros.
The old boys are the ones that chased Ange Postecoglou out of Australian Soccer.
The same ones that decided to embark us on the A league project, which has improved the professionalism of the sport, but has only caused a rift between true old passionate soccer fans who created the club and football culture that churned out the likes of Mark Bresciano, Mark Viduka, Brett Emerton, Vince Grella. Once upon a time, this sport was represented by a bunch of guys who were largely multicultural no longer.
If ever you wanted to see Australia's racism failings, the A league is a prime example. McVictory don't even hide using the tune to Scotland the brave as the club song FFS whilst clubs that have 30 years of history were tossed aside and not even granted a license even though they were better placed to help the league transform.
Good old Brittish colonialism at work again. They said they were making the sport more professional, but all they did was fund the top level off the academy kids (this is a crime) cementing Australian soccer as a rich persons game, which costs thousands to get kids into any meaningful competition with true learnings. The A league has been going for how many weeks already this year and you wouldn't even know there is a game on most weeks. Its a complete travesty.
Its also the antithesis of what happened in England. The clubs got together there, and formed a break away competition from the FA which resulted in the English Premier League forming and the English 1st division becoming a side show.
Why does it cost a zillion bucks to register kids to play in this country? Are those clubs then using this cash to pay senior players? Where's all the money going - it doesn't sound like much is filtering back to development.
Why does it cost a zillion bucks to register kids to play in this country? Are those clubs then using this cash to pay senior players? Where's all the money going - it doesn't sound like much is filtering back to development.
Yep, one of my youngest spent a couple of seasons playing soccer years back, at the time registration was five times the cost of Aussie rules, and most of the soccer gear was far more expensive as well. Gouging?
Yep, one of my youngest spent a couple of seasons playing soccer years back, at the time registration was five times the cost of Aussie rules, and most of the soccer gear was far more expensive as well. Gouging?
Why does it cost a zillion bucks to register kids to play in this country? Are those clubs then using this cash to pay senior players? Where's all the money going - it doesn't sound like much is filtering back to development.
Its a rort. They are so called Academies who claim to have affiliations with International clubs. They prey on kids and the their parents with statements like "your kid has talent, we can get him over to yyy to trial with xxx" for a fee of course. The parents pay because they are made to think Little Johnny will be the next Messi. They are frauds.
Gouging kids to pay weekend hackers match fees... Looks like the FIFA mindset goes all the way to the roots.
'Community Club' near us $575 to register for soccer (U12-U21). Also have to try out to get in. 6 month season.
Tennis: $95 for a junior to play comp - Annual membership
Cricket: $135 - 6 month season
Aussie Rules: ~$210 - 6 month season
Rort of the highest order.
Gouging kids to pay weekend hackers match fees... Looks like the FIFA mindset goes all the way to the roots.
The game is corrupt at every level.
'Community Club' near us $575 to register for soccer (U12-U21). Also have to try out to get in. 6 month season.
FMD, $575, and half the time kids are playing on reduced size soccer pitches or patches of mud with posts at either end!
'Community Club' near us $575 to register for soccer (U12-U21). Also have to try out to get in. 6 month season.
Tennis: $95 for a junior to play comp - Annual membership
Cricket: $135 - 6 month season
Aussie Rules: ~$210 - 6 month season
Rort of the highest order.
Believe it or not thats cheap. Some of the academies I've heard of charge closer to $1800 for one season and then another $1000 for their summer camps.
You have to try out to get in, and guess what happens if you don't attend summer camp. Spot gone for the following season!
Thry, I know that is cheap - that's the scary bit. Do you know why fees are so high?
Summer basketball for a local team is $360 (expensive, I would have thought)
I honestly can only talk about the clubs I played for as a child. We were paying $300 for registration in the 90's for each kid at a club.
If you had multiple kids at one club you got a discount on registration.
I had heard of the kids fees helping to pay wages of the senior and reserve coaches as well as players who were being paid.
They do sometimes cover the cost of shirts, shorts, socks and various other things.
Fitting a kid out for Little Athletics costs around $300 (registration, shoes, uniform)
Have two or three competing and most sports are ridiculously expensive.
The solution to better performance at the World Cup is right there in front of us.
Ban Australian Football, Rugby League and Union.
We'll have a bigger talent pool to draw from. ;D
Thry, I know that is cheap - that's the scary bit. Do you know why fees are so high?
Summer basketball for a local team is $360 (expensive, I would have thought)
That is expensive, used to be $80 for domestic comp and around $200 for Rep when my kids played.
Biggest expense was the shoes, the Air Jordans and the Kobies didnt come cheap.
I see now some kids wearing the $750 basketball boots and wonder why you would bother ...where do the parents get the money from?
Fitting a kid out for Little Athletics costs around $300 (registration, shoes, uniform)
Have two or three competing and most sports are ridiculously expensive.
The solution to better performance at the World Cup is right there in front of us.
Ban Australian Football, Rugby League and Union.
We'll have a bigger talent pool to draw from. ;D
You’re joking, but soccer fanatics aren’t. I remember reading an article by Craig Foster who proposed that the other football codes should identify elite juniors who would excel at soccer and convince them to play soccer. He reasoned that as soccer is played internationally, the Socceroos needed elite talent to compete on the world stage while the AFL and NRL were domestic leagues whose teams would share the leftovers equally and spectators wouldn’t notice the difference as the clubs would still be competitive! He didn’t mention how juniors would be persuaded; are cattle prods legal at the junior level?
As a Track and Field tragic one of my biggest regrets is that I never got to see how good a Decathlete Anthony Koutoufides could have been.
As a Carlton supporter I'm pretty happy to have seen what a great footballer he turned out to be.
It's a culture thing.
We have a great diversity of sports.
Our Olympic medal tally, healthy, as it is, would be much higher if some of our AFL, NRL and Rugby Union players were involved in Olympic sports.
By the same token the USA probably 'loses' a lot of talent to Basketball and American Football.
You’re joking, but soccer fanatics aren’t. I remember reading an article by Craig Foster who proposed that the other football codes should identify elite juniors who would excel at soccer and convince them to play soccer. He reasoned that as soccer is played internationally, the Socceroos needed elite talent to compete on the world stage while the AFL and NRL were domestic leagues whose teams would share the leftovers equally and spectators wouldn’t notice the difference as the clubs would still be competitive! He didn’t mention how juniors would be persuaded; are cattle prods legal at the junior level?
Foster is delusional. He was a good player, but as a media commentator he drives me absolutely nuts.
Regarding trying to attract talent, they are all fair game and open to all sports. From memory, players like Marc Murphy were lured out of cricket and Pendlebury was lured out of other Basketball at AIS level, so I don't think its fair to single any one sport out for doing this over any other.
Thing is, these sports can be played concurrently, whilst at junior level the AFL and Soccer seasons run at the same time, so they have to make a choice as a child which is where that conversation probably comes from.
Thing is, the point is valid. The better athletes here don't play soccer. Thats probably where he was coming from, and thats about the end of that conversation.
You’re joking, but soccer fanatics aren’t. I remember reading an article by Craig Foster who proposed that the other football codes should identify elite juniors who would excel at soccer and convince them to play soccer. He reasoned that as soccer is played internationally, the Socceroos needed elite talent to compete on the world stage while the AFL and NRL were domestic leagues whose teams would share the leftovers equally and spectators wouldn’t notice the difference as the clubs would still be competitive! He didn’t mention how juniors would be persuaded; are cattle prods legal at the junior level?
Why play Soccer when you can play a better game in Aussie Rules? You don't have to go overseas to be successful. As for the game, well half of the world cup games so far have had neither side scoring. That is supposed to be interesting?
It is a good thing that the best athlete here don't play soccer.
Great effort by our aussies.
Still alive and if France do what they should do and beat or draw with Denmark then we only need a draw against Denmark and we are thru.
Matt Ryan 3 votes for me.
Why play Soccer when you can play a better game in Aussie Rules? You don't have to go overseas to be successful. As for the game, well half of the world cup games so far have had neither side scoring. That is supposed to be interesting?
It is a good thing that the best athlete here don't play soccer.
Well you can earn millions and not get brain damage.
Great effort by our aussies.
Still alive and if France do what they should do and beat or draw with Denmark then we only need a draw against Denmark and we are thru.
Matt Ryan 3 votes for me.
I thought he and Behich split the BOG. The giant defender Souttar was pretty solid also, stopped a couple of certain goals.
Foster is delusional. He was a good player, but as a media commentator he drives me absolutely nuts.
Regarding trying to attract talent, they are all fair game and open to all sports. From memory, players like Marc Murphy were lured out of cricket and Pendlebury was lured out of other Basketball at AIS level, so I don't think its fair to single any one sport out for doing this over any other.
Thing is, these sports can be played concurrently, whilst at junior level the AFL and Soccer seasons run at the same time, so they have to make a choice as a child which is where that conversation probably comes from.
Thing is, the point is valid. The better athletes here don't play soccer. Thats probably where he was coming from, and thats about the end of that conversation.
Pendlebury wasn't going to make it at NBA, Euroleague level where the money is and NBL is 50-70k a year money for a Joe average player.
Kids usually play what they enjoy then have to make career decisions quickly when it comes to sports and the money on offer would sway many as well as the ability to play in Aus and not have to move overseas.
Foster is delusional. He was a good player, but as a media commentator he drives me absolutely nuts.
Regarding trying to attract talent, they are all fair game and open to all sports. From memory, players like Marc Murphy were lured out of cricket and Pendlebury was lured out of other Basketball at AIS level, so I don't think its fair to single any one sport out for doing this over any other.
Thing is, these sports can be played concurrently, whilst at junior level the AFL and Soccer seasons run at the same time, so they have to make a choice as a child which is where that conversation probably comes from.
Thing is, the point is valid. The better athletes here don't play soccer. Thats probably where he was coming from, and thats about the end of that conversation.
Foster is your typical sports commentator who flips and flops depending on results. Post France Australia was terrible and Arnold had to go. Post Tunisia, Australia can win the World Cup. The commentator that has impressed me the most is Harry Kewell. His commentary was bang on BEFORE both Socceroos games, both played out exactly per his commentary.
Tunisia are on our level which is not very good. Denmark are better than us but anything can happen in soccer.
Well you can earn millions and not get brain damage.
I was just getting interested in the World Cup this year until last nights game.
Then I saw a series of bogus injury claims / dives and it lost me again, that and the stupidity of the statements from the commentators.
FFS, two players get medi-escorted of for "acts of bravery", bordering on being victims of physical assault if you believe the adjectives from the commentary. But the video slow motion replay shows no contact at all with the surfaces the players claim are impacted / injured. This is a reframing of reality that makes Adam Goodes look like a moderate!
It's sooky lying cheating crap from soft as butter prima-donna's and not worth anybody's time to watch. They aren't A-Grade sportspeople, they are A-Grade conmen making millions or even billions with a lie!
I was just getting interested in the World Cup this year until last nights game.
Then I saw a series of bogus injury claims / dives and it lost me again, that and the stupidity of the statements from the commentators.
FFS, two players get medi-escorted of for "acts of bravery", bordering on being victims of physical assault if you believe the adjectives from the commentary. But the video slow motion replay shows no contact at all with the surfaces the players claim are impacted / injured. This is a reframing of reality that makes Adam Goodes look like a moderate!
It's sooky lying cheating crap from soft as butter prima-donna's and not worth anybody's time to watch. They aren't A-Grade sportspeople, they are A-Grade conmen making millions or even billions with a lie!
The way some soccer players carry on, you'd think they are in a scripted wrestling match. But even the hits they (accidentally) get have a lot less carry on than the soccer blokes. I can't take it seriously.
When they don't roll around its usually an indicator that they're actually hurt.
When they don't roll around its usually an indicator that they're actually hurt.
The Saudi bloke who collided with his Goalkeepers knee didn't get up I tell ya. Was out cold, reportedly taken to hospital and deteriorated into critical condition. Saudi leaders transferred him to Germany by private jet for specialised treatment. I hate the death rolls more than the next bloke, I think they are tactics to milk a free, stop a run and/or waste time. Officials should stamp it out by giving red cards.
Stop focusing on the fact they roll around and you'll realise they are actually being fouled and keeping your feet in those situations is a disadvantage.
Set pieces are valuable and a lot of it is about swinging momentum.
Stop focusing on the fact they roll around and you'll realise they are actually being fouled and keeping your feet in those situations is a disadvantage.
Set pieces are valuable and a lot of it is about swinging momentum.
If you did the same thing in AFL, you'd get reported for staging.
Half the time the 'foul' has daylight between players and a stretcher is still required. I don't care how useful it is to your team, i can't stand it and i won't watch it because of it.
Stop focusing on the fact they roll around and you'll realise they are actually being fouled and keeping your feet in those situations is a disadvantage.
Set pieces are valuable and a lot of it is about swinging momentum.
Thry its a disgrace of a spectacle though, its hard not focus on it. I realise its largely a non contact game but the slightest bit of contact and they go down like a bag of spuds, for me its embarrassing.
If you did the same thing in AFL, you'd get reported for staging.
Half the time the 'foul' has daylight between players and a stretcher is still required. I don't care how useful it is to your team, i can't stand it and i won't watch it because of it.
Kruddler you can whinge about it all you like, and the sport doesn't care if you watch it.
Let's see how Jack ginnivan gets his frees for the rest of his career and revisit shall we?
Thry its a disgrace of a spectacle though, its hard not focus on it. I realise its largely a non contact game but the slightest bit of contact and they go down like a bag of spuds, for me its embarrassing.
its actually not a non contact game, its a game where you can't play the man without playing the ball. That means no push and shove unless you're shoulder to shoulder and using your hands to push isn't legal, and you can't hold an opponent. It also means clipping a player, or tackling through a player isn't allowed.
The definition of the foul is your issue.
Why play Soccer when you can play a better game in Aussie Rules? You don't have to go overseas to be successful. As for the game, well half of the world cup games so far have had neither side scoring. That is supposed to be interesting?
It is a good thing that the best athlete here don't play soccer.
$$$
A professional soccer player in the second tier competitions around most of the prominent European leagues (Spain, France, Germany, england) has more earning power than those in Australia playing afl and will pay in the vicinity of a couple of hundred thousand euros per season to play sport at a professional level. The equivalent of your bog average vfl, sanfl, wafl players in other words can earn 200k Aussie for the privilege. Thing is if you can get into elite comps from there your earning power will get to a million a season just by making it into the top flight in most of the leagues.
There are usually no more than about 10 afl players that earn 1 million a season and that seems to be limited to the cream of the crop for a really short period of time unless you're a buddy franklin.
Most afl players have a career that spans about 5 years. If the players we are talking about are also rans, they're more likely to be under the annual wages for an average AFL player of lets say 450k a season.
At the end of the day, people will play the sport they want to, and not many on an AFL forum are going to appreciate soccer and thats perfectly fine.
its actually not a non contact game, its a game where you can't play the man without playing the ball. That means no push and shove unless you're shoulder to shoulder and using your hands to push isn't legal, and you can't hold an opponent. It also means clipping a player, or tackling through a player isn't allowed.
The definition of the foul is your issue.
Mate I dont have an issue with the rules or definition of the fouls, its the theatrics afterwards that I can't stand.
The theatrics in soccer are a small part of a much bigger whole. Don't get sucked into focussing on those. It's a beautiful game, harder to play than it looks.
The theatrics in soccer are a small part of a much bigger whole. Don't get sucked into focussing on those. It's a beautiful game, harder to play than it looks.
I get it
@PaulP , but it's impossible for me to let go the con, it leaves me feeling ripped off.
It may be a beautiful game, but it's far far far from pure!
I'll never understand any endeavour, sport, business, politics or law, that rewards scoundrels.
In religious circles, Judas wasn't someone to be idolised!
Well you can earn millions and not get brain damage.
You will get brain damage: they hit the ball with their heads. Insane!
You will get brain damage: they hit the ball with their heads. Insane!
In "our" game you can legally knee a player in the back of the head as long as it looks like you're going for the ball.
Can't get brain damage? At least one side has banned headers at training.
And the theatrical component is pathetic, diving is a form of cheating.
Is what we witnessed overnight with Ronaldo, claiming credit for a goal even though he never even made contact with the ball, ultimately the outcome of allowing the ongoing fakery?
We aren't talking the Heidelberg Back Paddock Floggers, this is the best of the best, the games pinnacle showcase!
Then we have the apologists in the commentary claiming Ronaldo was a deliberate decoy and deserves all the credit for the score. :o
Research into CTE is still nascent, but current indications are that whilst CTE can and has occurred in soccer players, it is less likely than in other sports, and would require long careers by players who are known for heading. There's plenty on the internet. This article is a small taster :
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2693047-brain-damage-cte-discovered-in-former-soccer-players-known-for-heading
Brave to make it this far, the difference in class is again evident. A couple of defensive howlers, especially the 2nd goal. Consulation goal will mean nothing. 2-1 is not an embarrassing scoreline if they can hold it to that. Proud.
Brave to make it this far, the difference in last is again evident. A couple of defensive howlers, especially the 2nd goal. Consulation goal will mean nothing. 2-1 is not an embarrassing scoreline if they can hold it to that. Proud.
Here in Brisbane it's only half time ::)
If an atom bomb was dropped we wouldn't know about it until an hour later if we were watching the Today show.
We're down 0-1....How do I get a bet on.
Breaking news :o
Down 0-2 now.
(To be fair Sunrise are an hour behind the rest of the world as well.)
The sbs app is stuck in the year 2014.
Can't rewind live tv, highlights only available now.
Optus sports have had this stuff for at least 5 years.
Breaking news :o
Down 0-2 now.
(To be fair Sunrise are an hour behind the rest of the world as well.)
So it wasn't live on SBS into QLD?
So it wasn't live on SBS into QLD?
It was...
The point is that after the game I turned on the Today show.
It was still half time according to them.
Same on QLD seven and the Sunrise show.
The match unfolded over the next hour on that show...but the result was already in.
We're getting the news an hour later than the Southern states.
I'm guessing it applies to all news.
What I don't understand is why they don't start the show an hour earlier and stay in sync with the deep South.
It's light at 4.00am and everyone is up anyway.
It was...
The point is that after the game I turned on the Today show.
It was still half time according to them.
Same on QLD seven and the Sunrise show.
The match unfolded over the next hour on that show...but the result was already in.
We're getting the news an hour later than the Southern states.
I'm guessing it applies to all news.
What I don't understand is why they don't start the show an hour earlier and stay in sync with the deep South.
It's light at 4.00am and everyone is up anyway.
Why i don't understand is why don't you banana benders get in line with the rest of country! :P
Why i don't understand is why don't you banana benders get in line with the rest of country! :P
Daylight saving wrecks your curtains...too much Sun
But....
I'm a NewSouthWelshman born and bred.
We don't even recognise other states as separate entities. ;D
Daylight saving wrecks your curtains...too much Sun
But....
I'm a NewSouthWelshman born and bred.
We don't even recognise other states as separate entities. ;D
I know, I remember the Dapto Ducks ;)
But now you're one of them. >:D
I know, I remember the Dapto Ducks ;)
But now you're one of them. >:D
No, I'm not.
I'm just visiting ;)
Back to the Soccer.
You have to be happy we've got this far.
A really good effort when other codes will always draw the cream of football talent.
Jezza was a soccer player before he played real football. :D
Argentina are doing their best Carlton impersonation, 2-0 up at the 73rd minute then they let 2 in (one deep in stoppage time) and now go to extra time.
Argentina are doing their best Carlton impersonation, 2-0 up at the 73rd minute then they let 2 in (one deep in stoppage time) and now go to extra time.
The dutch had an extra player.
The dutch had an extra player.
In soccer, is it because the Ref hates a team like when we have umpire Nafin(22), or is it more because of off-field threats and corruption?
If you are not FIFA or Qatari Royalty, you are little people, ................. just ask Grant Wahl!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lru1Qxc1l8