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Reply #1335 –
Quote from: Lods on
In the year 2525 when there is no race, religion, or nations...well, we'll probably have a whole lot of other problems to deal with...on the new planet.
If anybody thinks a new planet might make things better that best watch a series or two of The Expanse! ;D

In my opinion trouble is caused by social or political politics, usually with some underlying motivation, not typically by difference. Difference is just the label used to disguise motive.
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Reply #1336 –
Quote from: Lods on
I can't think of too many countries that don't do it for at least some day or time of the year.

In the year 2525 when there is no race, religion, or nations...well, we'll probably have a whole lot of other problems to deal with...on the new planet.

If people didn't use race, religion etc., they would find something else. Paul Tillich once said that all institutions are inherently demonic, by which I think he means that all institutions are a mess, either at the start or some later point. And the reason they're a mess is because they have people in them, and people are a mess.

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Reply #1337 –
Quote from: Lods on
I can't think of too many countries that don't do it for at least some day or time of the year.

In the year 2525 when there is no race, religion, or nations...well, we'll probably have a whole lot of other problems to deal with...on the new planet.

Zager and Evans send their regards.  :D
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Reply #1338 –
Quote from: PaulP on
I understand where dodge is coming from. You can reach a tipping point with nationalism where it becomes an ugly force. Australia is hardly alone is promoting this kind of low brow self exhalation. All countries do it.

I also get where Roger the Dodger is coming from. MBB old son, Dodge specified one area of this nation that concerned him... deeply - jingoism. Same thing concerns me. And as Principal LODS noted, patriotism is a spectrum, and most of us are probably where he is, in the middle - proud of our country but not oblivious or in denial of faults or very potential faults. Hard right patriotism is dangerous. Very dangerous.
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Reply #1339 –
Quote from: PaulP on
If people didn't use race, religion etc., they would find something else. Paul Tillich once said that all institutions are inherently demonic, by which I think he means that all institutions are a mess, either at the start or some later point. And the reason they're a mess is because they have people in them, and people are a mess.

Beat me to it, Pauly. When you have the controlling creatures of a planet (us - humans), and those creatures are fundamentally imperfect (to be polite) you can only expect varying degrees of, as you note, 'mess.' We spend most of our lives in damage control.
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Reply #1340 –
As George Bernard Shaw wrote;

"The longer I live, the more convinced I am that this planet is used by other planets as a lunatic asylum."
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #1341 –
Quote from: northernblue on
Thinly veiled redneckism.
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Reply #1343 –
Quote from: madbluboy on

We are a great country but you hate everything about us.

Are you happy with how Patriotic USA is?

Sing the national anthem at the drop of a hat. Old Glory spread across everything that will show it. They know every little redneck town with a population of over 100, but have no idea on where France is on a map....or any other country outside of Canada and Mexico.

While we are a fair way of that stage.....we are chasing their tail....as we do in everything it seems.

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Reply #1344 –
Quote from: kruddler on
Are you happy with how Patriotic USA is?

Sing the national anthem at the drop of a hat. Old Glory spread across everything that will show it. They know every little redneck town with a population of over 100, but have no idea on where France is on a map....or any other country outside of Canada and Mexico.

While we are a fair way of that stage.....we are chasing their tail....as we do in everything it seems.

We're headed in the opposite direction. In 20 years long after the date has been changed it will be "change the name".
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #1345 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
We're headed in the opposite direction. In 20 years long after the date has been changed it will be "change the name".

What, back to New South Wales?
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #1347 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
We're headed in the opposite direction. In 20 years long after the date has been changed it will be "change the name".
We have been following the US and worryingly so.
There are signs we are not starting to follow NZ and embracing our history....albeit at a snails pace.

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Reply #1348 –
Is Australia day even that contentious? After all the posturing the first fleet sailed into botany Bay 6 days earlier.

Whilst the 26th is the first day the land was claimed for Brittain would the 20th be any less of an issue?
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Reply #1349 –
Simples … move it to a date outside the 20-26 Jan range. That’s the wisdom of Solomon right there.