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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
This is my experience of living in Australia.

I am white and have white privilege to minority groups, true dark skinned people, the LBGTQI community and females (i am male).

I am not truly one of the club like some of the others.

I get it Thry, but that's a personal perception is it not, rather than a mainstream view?


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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Whatever the outcome of this sorry event, this will NEVER happen again.  Tennis Australia MUST follow only Federal rules.  Still want him flown home
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The Sports Desk / Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
English showed some fight today, Crawley can play and Stokes, Leach love a rear guard action. Jonny Bairstow showed plenty of grit and spirit but they need more youth coming through.
Langar and Cummins mucked up the declaration but that's cricket...

Given they were never likely to chase down that target, it was at least 45 minutes too late.  Boland's got the goods though.

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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Quote from: LP on
Yes, I agree.

I've travelled a lot, on one flight there was a problem sending the passenger manifest, the flight officer talked the passengers through the full procedure and why there would be a delay landing, because they hadn't been able to transmit the document early enough to get the tick of approval on time to disembark. Air Traffic Control would put the plane in a holding pattern pending a gate being allocated. @capcom will know this better than me but as far as I know it is always the flight officers who send the passenger manifest to the destination sometime after departure and get cleared for landing while in transit. I suppose once the planes left the ground the passenger list isn't going to change! ;D

Sometimes very very rarely, I've had this happen twice in 40 years and hundreds of flights, your plane gets meet with a border control team to collect an individual before the rest of the passengers can disembark/deplane, I gather this was the Djoker scenario.

OK.

1.  The crew do NOT send a manifest to anyone.  They (the flight attendants) have a copy of it so they know who is sitting where assuming they each have their boarding passes on their person in the event they must return to their original seats in prep for landing.  That is a DCS weight and balance matter and way beyond the scope of this response.

The manifest goes to the arrival port via head office ops control and originally sourced from the departure port DCS manager in charge.  He's the guy responsible for having it signed off by the captain ... and it bears huge personal responsibility.

2.  Border control (using that term VERY loosely for the moment as it's almost always the State Feds) will be used for a PIC (passenger in custody) escort, unruly idiots under arrest for actions during flight, disabled passengers, spraying the cabin prior to disembarkation,  NEVER border control.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Australia stationing Border force personnel at any intnl airport to intercept any passenger from flying is simply preposterous.  How do you position those staff ahead of the flight.  How about an unforseen schedule change to the flight.  How would they know if that passenger would be a "no show".  Who would wear those ridiculous economic costs.

Exactly why it is the carrier's responsibility to check the credentials to the degree they can and then the onus falls on the passenger to have the paperwork is all in order when they land here.

I know of no country that doesn't do exactly the same thing and the destination port then approves passage or sends them home.  A casual look at "Border Security" would tell you that.  This is ALL on Djokovic and TA.