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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Quote from: kruddler on
I reckon Durdin is possibly the highest risk. His shoulder pops out when the breeze changes direction. Otherwise Cerra who is out of form and not fit.

Overall, i think we've gone 'safe' with selections.
Safe is a relative term, and i use it in terms of attempting to put our best side out there.....and hoping they hold up.

It would be much braver to leave out some of the 'regulars' and push the kids a bit more, but that would cop more backlash from the larger AFL world....including blues fans.

I've already mentioned, but i think we've gone too many underperforming small forwards and would mich rather sacrifice one or 2 of them for the unabashed enthusiasm of a kid or 2.
I thought Moir as sub would be perfect.
Lord i think is a little undersized, but taking the place of a small forward means we don't lose much.

If we are to win this game, i expect some breakout games from our small forwards to get us over the line.
That currently is our weakest point, and its the area that needs to lift the most.

Yep, and woops, I forgot Durds.

You only have to look at the way the Dawks small forwards play to get an idea of what we needs from our small forwards... they each have to produce their best games for the year. The Dawks small forwards were quick, desperate and made really quick decisions. They carved up the Dishlickers' defence.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
As is my want and somewhat irritating to some, I look through a psychological lens at our changes for this game and ask myself one simple question... how confident in their bodies to go flat out for 120 minutes will Doc, Williams, Cerra, Fantasia and Gov be? And that is central to my questioning of these changes. We can reasonably assume that Cinc, Lord and Binns would be confident in their bodies to go hard for 120 minutes. But I get the romance of Doc and the idea of going into the game with your biggest names.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Well when I saw our selected side, a lot of optimism evaporated. Was going to write a few things but saw that K (above) covered them nicely.

If you're Brisvegas, who are you going to target in our forward line? Durdin's shoulder, run Williams and Fantasia hard until they do a hammy or calf.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Quote from: madbluboy on
I thought Cincotta would have tagged Zorko, obviously Williams has that role now.

Exactly what I also figured. Cinc is the perfect match-up for Zorko... who is a beast and launches so many attacks. And intimidates forward lines. He'd feast on Williams... or Motlop... or Durdin... Plus, Cinc would give Zorko something else to think about - he's quick over the grass, strong and dangerous around goals.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Quote from: kruddler on
Playing 2 rucks is ok because one of them is a key forward in charlies absense.

Dropping Cincotta and playing a spud like Fantasia has got me stuffed.
Ditto Durdin (and to a lesser extent IMO Motlop)
Dropping Moir and playing Fantasia has me stuffed.
I hope we have Fantasia as the sub. I somehow think Kemp will get that role though.

I don't think we should be playing a team that has....
Williams, Durdin, Motlop and Fantasia,
Too many potential, non-contributors. History will tell you that at least one of them will have 6 or less touches and very little else influence over the game.
You could play Cincotta in a similar role who would give you lockdown options, kick as many goals, give you the same defensive pressure and twice as many touches.

Apart from that....i think its a decent side, albeit a little bit different from the norm, but circumstances dictate that.

Spot on.
Unbelievable. FFS.
The four you mention had better have blinders.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Just watched Clarkson previewing our game on YouTube.

Nutshell: to win we'd have to sustain a high level of pressure. That is what would prevent Brisvegas playing their one wood... their high level of uncontested possession... keeping the aggott out of their opponents hands. 100% concur with this. We always look our most dangerous with relentless pressure... hunting.

Like most pundits Clarkson is most concerned with the number of changes we might very well make. He agrees that Doc's inclusion will have a positive effect on team spirit... but... too many changes could very well be too disruptive to continuity. And we may well have the ability to make as many as 8 changes - just crazy (my word).

So... If we settled on no more than 4 changes, who comes in and who goes out?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Whilst they might be raging favourite, Bris have a poor record against top 10 teams. Saw something this morning on it, cant find it.

I'm far from giving up on us, in fact I'm strangely optimistic, but a lot of things need to go right. And it starts with the MC. I strongly believe our culture is superior to Brisvegas, but we need right people on the paddock on Saturday night... blokes who can and will last for 120 minutes of relentless pressure; blokes whose bodies are up for the challenge... we know their hearts and minds are up for it.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Quote from: rocky on
OK folks, so here is the VERY early oil I have on selection.
Ins : Cerra, Doc, McGovern, McKay and  ..... Martin (as the sub)
Outs : Binns, Carroll, Lord, Moir & Owies.
Charlie couldn't get up nor could TDK and  Williams
Disappointing that none of the young blokes get a run and somehow Motlop and Fantasia survive. Needless to say if we lose the MC will cop a fair bit of criticism and rightfully so.

I bet even the MC doesn't know our final side as yet. Especially considering there's another training run tomorrow!

My real concern is all the marketing and attention given to the sentimentality of Doc's selection. A wonderful feel good and good news story, and no doubt will lift the lads, momentarily... but... how much of a distraction might it also be? Apologies for being a wet blanket, but there's a very real risk associated with a bloke who hasn't played in heat for so many months.

Hopefully the coaching group is more than aware of the risk of distraction and the risk of limited exposure to game day pressure and expectations for Doc. After five minutes on the field, it's no longer about the romance but about hard-nosed delivery of the job at hand; the harsh reality of the huge task ahead of Doc and the rest of us.

Brisvegas is the red hot favourite for this game, for good reasons. Reality. We're the deserved underdogs.

Selection will be a real balancing act. You can't risk taking too many injury prone blokes into a final. There are in form kids who've delivered over the past few games and deserve inclusion, and a number of blokes lacking match fitness who are susceptible to breaking down, regardless of reputation.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Quote from: kruddler on
My team would be something like this....

FB - Cowan - Weitering - Newman
HB - Saad - Young - McGovern
C - Acres - Cripps - O.Hollands
HF - Kemp - McKay - Williams
FF - Motlop - Curnow - E. Hollands
R - Pittonet - Hewett - Walsh
Int - Kennedy - Docherty - Boyd - Cincotta
Sub - Moir


Hard to see Boyd getting up with an adductor injury. Cooper Lord for Boyd... especially hearing how Vossy and Crippa talked him up and how he has fit in so well.