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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: What to do with Jack
Not quite big enough to play as a key forward and not quick enough to be a small forward.   Stuck in the middle and really doens't have a role in the modern game.

Needs to be a better converter for a bloke that get limited opportunities at goal.   Not that he is alone on that island

He is 100% effort player and that's one thing you can't be critical of him for.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney
The MC need to seriously have a look at the game style.   It revolves around contested ball, but we got figured out halfway through last season.   Instead of making the change we double down.

Most sides have 1-2 contested bulls max.   See Jarrad Lyons out of the Lions side and WIll Brodie can't get a game at Freo.  Pies have Mitchell and maybe Adams.  That's it.    It isn't because they aren't good footballers, but too slow to defender and to slow with ball use.

Our list build saw us add Hewitt to Cripps, Kennedy, E.Curnow, Setterfield and Dow.   Even Cerra.   Waiting on Carroll.   Haven't seen enough.   It's just too many inside mids when really only 2 should be in the side.

We play 3-4 and what we get is Kennedy playing off half back, Cerra half back against the Dogs and Curnow half forward or half back.

The same time we have added Doc to the midfield with no success.   He is not a natural mid.

Only 2 of Cripps and Kennedy/Hewitt should be in the side.

Ed?   Love the bloke and he has got every inch of talent out of his body and if you started a side in Tassie tomorrow he would be an awesome role model.  But he is done.   Slow and can't kick.   I don't understand it.   Didn't understand the extra year.

The MC committee also need to work out a way to help Saad.    The Crows sat on him with Keays (Did it 12 months eariler so we should have known it was coming) and we can't work out a way to get him into the game.    As a result every side has sat on him since and we have no answer.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney
Quote from: Macca37 on
One of the biggest confidence sappers at the moment is H.  Spectators are deflated by his misses, think how the players must feel.

Rather than dropping him to the 2s, why not acknowledge that he is not a forward and put him on the backline.  His brother is successful in defence, why not Harry?  At the moment we are trying to force a square peg into a round hole.

His confidence is shot.   Not sure how you turn it around, but we have too

It was only round 1 when he was leading up to the wings clunking everything.   Took 11 marks against the Tigers to be one of our best.

Today is he dropping everything.   Not sure a run in the backline will turn around his form.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney
Quote from: Thryleon on
Sorry did I see a different match?  Dominated the first 15 mins?

Just curious because I thought Sydney battled hard whilst we were scrapping and scraping and in a bit of an arm wrestle against a team with more hunger for the contest and a bit more physical to boot.  We endured that and tried to play footy more than anything but it was an ugly turnover filled match IMHO.
Yeah I think you did.

We had the better of the general play in the first quarter until the Swans kicked 3 goals in 4 minutes.    I am a little surprised with your thoughts as the general commentary  was that we had wasted our advantage and should have put some real scoreboard pressure on.

By the time the injuries came we should have been 3-4 goals up.

We had multiple inside 50's for points, while the Swans would march from one end to the other and score a goal.

If you looked at the general stats without the scores it would have been fair to assume a Carlton win
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Congratulation Sam Walsh - B+F winner 2021
Quote from: madbluboy on
Do we give votes for participation?

Betts finished 9th and was delisted. Pretty obvious what happened there.

It is.    We really had a poor year.

Walsh, Weitering and McKay had good seasons.   Jones too.   Ed Curnow.   Who else on the list would get a pass mark?

Betts finished 9th and while he didn't have a great season was it better than Newnes, Dow, Fogarty, Stocker, Murphy, SPS, Williams, Docherty, Cottrell and Newman?   All played more than 14 games.   

Being our 9th best player in 2021 is not a great result.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 22: Carlton vs Port Adelaide
Quote from: Professer E on
Butters is a ***t and somebody will sort him out. Surely the football world has taken note of his antics by now?

What really concerns me EB is that our kids are OK,  it's that middle tier of blokes who have just fizzled out.   Fisher, Williamson, LoB, SPS have just given us nothing for what 4-5+ of "development" ?   De Konig has stagnated,  then chuck in senior blokes who are underdone and giving F all (moneybags,  Chuck,  Casboult).  We're pushing sh1t up hill with what we put out on the park today.

Bit rough on TDK.   He is 20 games in trying to jump over blokes that are 150 plus games.    He doesn't have the physical strength to play that role yet and just gets worn down.

Should be the 2nd banana at this stage.