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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
I think the anti-lockdown types had a naive and incorrect belief that if they could blow up Covid-0, Governments would have little choice but to allow life to go back to normal. In reality, the only hope of living a life that approximates the old normal is to stay at Covid-0. Once that's impossible, we'll be in permanent lockdown. Just to keep new infections at around 100 a day requires hard restrictions. And when spikes take it above that figure, hard lockdowns are needed. The only other way out is high vaccination rates, but I suspect there's a big overlap between anti-Lockdowns, anti-Maskers & anti-Vaxxers. If so, the anti-Lockdowners will ensure both that we won't stay at Covid-0 & we'll be unable to open up safely.   

I had a good laugh at your misguided certitude.

I'd love to see some data to support your assertion that hard lock downs are necessary to keep cases down....other NPIs have ben shown to be just as effective.

and quite frankly, there  is ample data out of the UK to suggest hospitalisation rates are being driven by the vaxxed. Go figure.

Is the NSW hospital system really overwhelmed by 140 cases in ICU?

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2020/surge-capacity-australian-intensive-care-units-associated-covid-19-admissions

Meanwhile, data continues to emerge suggesting that the vaccines are next to useless against variants. Which is all that remains these days....

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.22.457114v1.full.pdf

So, good luck with your 6 monthly jabs.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2021 Review: What have we learnt about our team?
I want to know how/why we trash new recruit when they come to Princes Park...

Dees - lever and May playing like solid A graders.

Port  - Aliir. Gun (even if Weiters was beaten and robbed)

Brisvegas - Neale, Daniher, Lyons even Robbo years back went to a new level. Important contributors.

We have Brackets, Williams, Martin (arguably Saad at times this year and throw in Marchy) - if not side lined, playing on 1 leg or struggling for form.

Have any of them (Saad aside) had a decent injury free run at it?

That group's output alone is enough to determine the outcome of many a close game....
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Yes, we didn't have lockdown for Influenza and look how bad things got, and that is for a disease with an R0 that is only a fraction of Sars-CoV-2! ;)

Luckily the lockdown and vaccines are working at slowing Sars-CoV-2, and now it looks like we will get an effective early treatment with several new drugs proving useful, the TGA has already approved Sotrovimab. But vaccines will remain the cheapest and safest option, and Sotrovimab can't be used for patients under 12 or under 40kg.

Sotrovimab is very expensive;
A single course which is 10 x 0.8ml intravenous doses costs about US$2200, the vaccines cost between $8 and $50 per dose.

And who makes Sotrovimab?

GSK, who (essentially) own Pfizer!

https://www.sotrovimab.com/

Safety - who knows!

https://www.sotrovimab.com/hcp/clinical-safety-variant-info/

Got an EUA, but has a safety profile history of a few weeks....hmmm.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Yes, we didn't have lockdown for Influenza and look how bad things got, and that is for a disease with an R0 that is only a fraction of Sars-CoV-2! ;)

Luckily the lockdown and vaccines are working at slowing Sars-CoV-2, and now it looks like we will get an effective early treatment with several new drugs proving useful, the TGA has already approved Sotrovimab. But vaccines will remain the cheapest and safest option, and Sotrovimab can't be used for patients under 12 or under 40kg.

Sotrovimab is very expensive;
A single course which is 10 x 0.8ml intravenous doses costs about US$2200, the vaccines cost between $8 and $50 per dose.

And again, you dismiss Ivermectin (or HCQ for  that matter).

Despite many world experts being adamant.

bird-group.org/health-professionals-resources/

Prof. Thomas Borody - https://covexit.com/australian-gps-can-legally-prescribe-ivermectin-triple-therapy-protocol-professor-borody/

(reckon this guy might know a tad more than you LP)

We wouldn't even have a problem at all.

But viable treatment options = no EUA = no bucks for the vaxx companies.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS
You can only make a rash assessment of a coach after 50 games in 2 interrupted seasons. Neither Clarkson nor Hardwick etc. looked like flag coaches after 50 games. I disagree that the Saints and Freo lists were lesser than ours. And Harry McKay will probably start looking for a new home.

We can all see how many flags, GF's, coaches have in their past, but that's irrelevant to us. We need to know how many flags they have in their future. We've been seduced by coaches with previous success before, and got burnt, twice. The model that gives the best chance for success is right before our eyes - stability, unity and build from within, but for whatever reason, we can't see it, or refuse to embrace it.

Rash?

Hardly? Will Teague improve? Maybe, maybe not. No certainty at all.

Should he be given the largesse Hardwick was afforded? Maybe, maybe not.

Comparing his track record with other coaches is fraught with danger.....

I've put up the teams in those GFs by the way.

Have a crack!

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS
Lyon is a massive step up on Teague.

DT has shown himself, on multiple occasions, to be pretty much clueless come match day.

And very weak defensively.

Is that on him or his assistants?

Both.

I've seen nothing - zero, nada - to suggest DT can get us to finals, let alone a flag.

Some of the losses to lower teams were inexcusable.

Some of the match committee decisions during the year were simply inexcusable.

Lyon got both the Saints and Freo to GFs with lesser lists than we have presently.

We can attack as well as any - and have the  fire power to capitalise....

We just lack defensive structures/systems. Lyon's specialty seemingly.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
29,000 hospitalisations for the flu in some 7 months of 2017, but no one called it a “pandemic” (or wet the bed daily).

Today there are 514 in hospital for COVID.

1. https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/097F15A91C05FBE7CA2581E20017F09E/$File/2017-season-summary-22112017.pdf
2. https://health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-case-numbers-and-statistics

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 23: Carlton vs GWS
Lost a bit of interest in this game...all this Teague business is depressing and with nothing riding on the game apart from saluting Eddie and Levi it went to script. Ed Curnow played a very nice game and I liked Stocker and Kemps work as well. LOB hit some nice passes early and TDK did well vs the new Mummy in Briggs,but again we dont get enough return for our efforts and having them level at half time meant they would get momentum at some stage which they did and the result was a forgone conclusion.

Another what could have been - missed a series of very easy shots in the first half. LOB, Brackets are two that come to mind.

Charlie could have done a lot better on two occasions but rushed his play and resulted in a turnover. Just needed some composure - at least he's finding the pill - and getting through games.

All that said, we weren't that far off them.

Glad some of the kids got a run.

Losing faith in Newnes. Appears to have acquired the Carlton malaise....
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Meanwhile, data out of Israel shows that vaccine 'efficacy' past 6 months is poor.

Note the roll out of the 'booster' narrative in the MSM....

Yet, no safety data on a 3rd jab (or the inevitable 4th, 5th, 6th.....). I'm sure LP can identify the arithmetic sequence .... O0
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
The Ivermectin push does seem to be just a figleaf for antivaxxers. The big tell is that those who push it also claim vaccines are dangerous and ineffective. I could understand if proponents of Ivermectin argued that vaccines are a great first-line of defence but when infections occur more treatments are needed.

I have no problems with existing medications being trialled to see if they might give doctors another option. I don’t have a “vaccine or nothing” mentality. Steroids have proved of some use in about a third of cases. If it works, great. But one of the attractions of using pre-existing drugs at their usual dosage is that their contraindications and side-effects are known. But if the dosage is substantially increased in order to work against Covid, new safety trials are required and can only be justified if there is enough evidence that the drug will work at reasonably safe levels. Claims Ivermectin kills Covid in Petri dishes seems to be a long way from proving this. And it seems the initial testing involved high doses:
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/what-now-for-ivermectin

And the above article suggests later studies have concluded it’s not effective.

In any event, the University of Oxford was to start a trial in June, so we’ll have some decent data at the end of it.

Have you looked at any of the studies?

c19ivermectin.com

https://bird-group.org/health-professionals-resources/

Far better studied, tested and understood than any of the current vaccines. Terrific safety profile too.

Oh, haven't heard of Professor Borody?

Another conspiracy nutter?

The world knew in March 2020 (earlier actually), Ivermectin kills 99.98% of SARS-COV2 in vitro....after that crickets from the regulatory authorities. I wonder why.

https://covexit.com/australian-gps-can-legally-prescribe-ivermectin-triple-therapy-protocol-professor-borody/
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Tasmania - League expansion or relocate/JV for a club
Can't see the AFL creating a 19th side (and bye complications), the AFL would need to go to 20 (with maybe NT the other team) if a Tassie Team is to get up. Which then dilutes the talent pool across the league too.

Or relocate/joint venture a Melb team further south...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/afl-carter-review-into-tasmanian-team/100371468

Is it something worth contemplating that the Blues might take up a handful of games in Tassie? I'd suspect not, no issues with us pulling a crowd, good membership already, etc.

Hawks and Norf better positioned in anycase?

Discuss  :D

(Searched and couldn't find a designated Tassie thread, hence this new one).

Always thought 20 teams, two conferences....whether that's A and B or equalised not sure....

Everyone plays each other twice then finals.

Perhaps finals within each conference then take the best two from each conference - in a final four format.

Or just the winner from each conference?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: CV and mad panic behaviour
Those vaccine passports are going to work a treat!



And kapow, fading after 6 months = NOT a vaccine. Jus a flawed gene technology.

2ND Israeli study (1st here: ) confirms mRNA C19 vax wanes significantly within 5mos (146d), and for those 60+ yo ↑’s risk of SARSCOV2 infection by ~3-fold vs. <146d

https://medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.03.21261496v1.full.pdf