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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The Climate, Environment and Energy Thread
You’re still not addressing the hydrogen conversion costs LP.
I don’t care which tech “wins” but right now ev are ahead by the length of Flemington straight and that isn’t going to change in the next 10-20 years.
Battery’s will become cheaper, they will charge quicker and likely go farther, Hydrogen is a long, long way behind.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2024 Practice Match Carlton vs Melbourne
I guess the biggest issue with our pre season form is that we seem to be playing like we were at the start of last season rather than the end…
All I know is that the GoDees had everything to play for, we beat them last preseason and killed their premiership dreams, have no illusions, this game meant more to them than us.
Every team has had 6 months to pull apart what we did well last year and they WILL apply the blowtorch to us.
Will we live up to the expectations that some have for us ?
I hope so but I doubt it.
I think making finals again will be success, once in the finals we can be allowed to dream but I think most can see that the next month or two without Weiters will be tricky.
Young doesn’t seem to have it and big Durds is coming back off injury.
Only in the wet dreams of some do we make a prelim in 2023 and push further in 24, more likely that we’ll slide and need to regroup.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre Season Hit Out vs Geelong
Yep.
It's not rocket science.
It's Goalkicking 101.
It's how we were taught to kick for goals 50 years ago.
So you would have to think in  the scheme of things that the suggestion has been made to Harry and he's tried it many times.

The problem isn't with the theory. It's with the execution.
It's the little man in his head.
Harry is a reasonably accurate and reliable kicker in general play.
There are two variables between field kicking. in general play. on the run and in the clear...and a set shot kick for goal.

The first is the difference between a straight approach and the around the corner one.
You don't often see an 'around the corner' kick in general play.
Immediately that's a decision that Harry has to make, when lining up for goal, which introduces a "something to think about"
He'd probably be better sticking with just one.
Eliminate the choice.
One less thing to occupy his thought process.

Secondly,in general play, a lot of Harry's accurate kicks are often on the run in the clear.
No "man on the mark".
Another thing to think about.
In training, I wonder whether Harry is practicing these numerous shots on goal with a man on the mark.

In ideal situations that man on the mark will also be reminding Harry about the bit of “chewy on his boot” 🤣 match simulation 👍🏼
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
NT...With his clever marketing I think Elon Musk has created an expectation with his worldwide best selling cars that EV's have to have that futuristic look and a high tech name to go with it....My fav is The Cyber Truck that has both the look and name that makes you think you have stepped into the future even though I believe it already has a rust issue 😶.
https://www.motor1.com/news/708690/tesla-cybertruck-porsche-911-turbo-s-drag-race/
Looks like something out of a Mad Max film....

Agree it’s pig ugly.
Apparently it’s also RAM sized which disappoints me greatly.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Yet if you look at the cars now they do at least resemble cars.
They are after all, cutting edge technology demonstrations not retail vehicles.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Just to back up slightly Krudds, look up the world solar challenge:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Solar_Challenge

It’s been held every few years since the early ‘90s.
Solar powered cars start in Darwin and “race” to Adelaide, with the winners usually sitting on the speed limit most of the way for 3000km.
What originally started as freaky solar panels with wheels has become almost mainstream looking vehicles, so what you are proposing IS doable but probably not very practical with “a couple of kings panels and an old battery from the shed”
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
The NT was/is always a bit of a mess with solar, think an Italian conglomerate own a few of the facilities and the system up there has too many cooks in the kitchen. They wont connect those solar facilities to the grid because of storage battery issues and a fear the ageing infrastructure will fall over plus when you connect a lot of solar arrays at once you get poorer regulation which means dirty power which spikes the line up to very high voltages which kills older infrastructure so they switch those feeds off.
They will probably need to get a 3rd party Engineering Consultant company in to test and sign off on the system because thats how it usually works and they dont come cheap.
NT Government give good rebates on EV vehicles dont they?

You're certainly more knowledgeable of the tech side than me lol.
I do know a guy who is involved in the remote generation and distribution and he did say that the biggest problem with solar production was things like cloud cover, as in everything is humming along and a cloud comes over and output drops, batteries are needed to keep everything running whilst the (usually) diesel generator kicks in.
He says its not bad, it just needs to be integrated and well managed.

I'm not sure of the ev subsidy's but I believe the battery one is better than most.
Something that helps NT take up solar and battery is that many are remote, at least compared to you mob down south.
Even if theres power to the front, the acreage can still make renewables stack up well price wise.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
All batteries are charged with DC, whether the charge circuit converts DC to DC or AC to DC makes no difference, most EV cars have smart sockets for both AC or DC charging. DC can mean CW(Constant Wattage, Constant Current, Constant Voltage) or Pulsed dependant on the charger design, but it's all DC. Some modulate power by varying voltage, others use PWM(Pulse Width Modulation.)

If you have a 12v / 240v inverter, you can use a 12v source like a lead acid battery to charge your EV enough to get it to a charge station. You could use jumper cables to run an inverter off the idling petrol or diesel vehicle, and the outback charge stations are often just diesel generators which have an integrated 240v inverter, coin or credit card operated of course.

Most portable SolarPV won't have anywhere near the power to give any useful range via an inverter, at least not in a single day of charging, it would be like trying to warm your bath water with a candle. The best rooftop SolarPV panels are much more efficient than the portables and yet roof top panels typically only deliver a few hundred watts each day, I think the very best make it to about 650 Watts on a perfect conditions. Good portable panels are about 50% of the solid roof top variety. Your EV battery and motors are measured in tens of Kilowatts, I think a low end Tesla is in the order of 60 ~ 70Kw!

An interesting point, it you bolted a solid SolarPV to the roof of your Tesla in a weird attempt to extend the range, you would actually lose range, because the weight and drag of the panel more than offsets the energy it creates.

""When it comes to electric mobility, two types of electrical currents can be used to charge an electric vehicle (EV)—AC (alternating current) and DC (direct current).

All home EV chargers and the majority of public charging stations use AC, while DC is used for fast charging.

When we talk about charging an EV, the main difference between AC and DC charging (and the time it takes to do so) is where the conversion from AC to DC happens, i.e. in the vehicle or the charging station.

    The power that comes from the grid is always AC (alternating current).
    The energy stored in batteries is always DC (direct current).

This article explores the differences between AC and DC EV charging and takes a look at how it works.""

https://blog.evbox.com/difference-between-ac-and-dc

Without looking for my tape measure so we can have a measure off that is the first article that came up when I googled.
Whilst you're not wrong that at some point its gotta be DC that goes into the battery, we were talking about charging points and you claimed that all charging points are DC.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
A 12v $60 Jump Starter will start your EV but you cant charge the battery with them, a Jackery or Bluetti type powerstation at the top end might be able to supply 1800-2000watts which could give you 10-12 kilometres worth of juice but thats going to set you back $3-4K.
You can use your EV to power your home, you need a bidirectional charger so you can convert DC back to AC for your home.....I believe but dont quote me that a couple of the present Mitsubishi's one being the Outlander PHEV can be configured for BiDirectional charging. Id expect it to become the norm across all EVs as well as being able to power appliances directly.
Think I read that a EV from Nissan was trialled in Japan and powered a house for 4 days.....

Yeah, it all comes down to battery capacity and load.
I've spoken to guys with tesla powerwalls (20Kwh ?) and plugging in their 70odd Kwh cars and lasting 3-4 days.
The bottom line is its all doable with some planning on your part and the gov.

Speaking of governments role, I also believe that the NT still has 3 large scale solar arrays that have been completed for 2+ years but our electricity distributor hasnt ticked them off to allow them to connect to the grid !
Sitting there idle.

I've spoken to guy overseas who has just handed back his electricity meter because for the past 2 years (I've seen pics of his bills) his consumption charge was $0 per month.
He was happy to pay the daily charge to have mains  backup but got constant grief in the form of various random inspections because they didnt believe he was using no power.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
As far as I know it doesn't work like that, EV batteries are massive arrays of smaller cells, to charge them you need quite high DC voltages, not something that comes from your typical small SolarPV or lead acid battery. Probably a portable inverter / generator might get you started, which is a tad ironic.


It does make you wonder though what is the RACV equivalent of road side assist for an EV, maybe you can use one EV to partially charge another. I think many EVs like a Landcruiser come with a built in low power inverter. I gather the missus won't have a spare of that cable in her purse?

As i have stated previously that I'm not an ev owner but my understanding is that "fast chargers" use DC and most home chargers use AC.
I'd imagine that pending suitable connections you could top up an ev using camping solar panels or another battery, but how much could they put in over what timeframe ?
There are Lithium battery packs the size of small gensets that are used in camping situations where you'd connect them to solar and/or your car alternator when driving (anderson plug) possibly pending connections one COULD be used to move an ev a short distance, maybe...
Think of it as a 5lt gerrycan, it aint much but its more than you've got now...

Ive never heard of anyone leaving their ev sitting around on such a low charge, it would defy logic, even yours ! :D
Let alone the reality that your ev is capable of being your house battery, charging off your home solar during the day and feeding back into your home by night... or when mains power is lost.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
This is 100% true, but it'll cut off the battery long before you get anywhere near completely flat. Like power tools most are designed to only go down to something like 15% capacity before they shut off.

If you can't start the car, does it really matter how much is left in the battery?

In that case its a bit like an ice that runs out of petrol then isnt it ?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
Curious, Could you pull out your camping solar panels cells and charge you EV, or charge a spare battery and use that to charge your EV?
Wouldn't be able to provide the same amount of oomph as your wall sockets for sure, but could get you out of trouble?

Possibly, but you might just be piiising against the wind.
And anyone who has an ev without home/work place solar is a bit like someone who would buy a brand new car with no intention of obtaining a license.
Why pay retail for electricity when you can make it yourself ?
The bigger problem at the moment is that battery costs are still high but falling so peoples solar set ups are still grid tied (exporting excess) but when the grid goes down so does your home, if you have a battery to feed into that is still available in an outage.
My understanding is that most ev have two batteries, a traction battery for the motor and a "house" battery for the other stuff.
I find it difficult to believe that any ev could run down to 0% thats what their BMS are designed to prevent.