Can someone tell me WTF Docherty was doing going across the ground with 1 minute left in the game. I cannot believe that actually happened. We played the way you'd play of you had the lead FFS! WTF.
That aside with one fit rotation it was a huge effort by the boys. We had a lot of players down, some of Gibbs and Yarran's disposal was shocking and Waite had a stinker. Looking forward to next season with a fit and firing list.
Can someone tell me WTF Docherty was doing going across the ground with 1 minute left in the game. I cannot believe that actually happened. We played the way you'd play of you had the lead FFS! WTF.
Had nothing to kick to Carrots.
The team went into it's shell.
Cost ourselves the game with a really bad turnover with about five minutes to play.
Still good effort. The ball barracked for Geelong tonight with some very unkind bounces.
Meanwhile must we have one match every so often where we end up without a bench? It seems to be an annual occurrence.
Can someone tell me WTF Docherty was doing going across the ground with 1 minute left in the game. I cannot believe that actually happened. We played the way you'd play of you had the lead FFS! WTF.
Had nothing to kick to Carrots.
The team went into it's shell.
The commentary team said he had Murphy free but if not I don't know, you just have to bite the bullet and kick it long, it's like the players didn't know how long was left. Fk me that would've been a huge win for the club.
Another game and everyone adheres to the script.
Right down to the non-existent free kick which led to the last goal of the game.
Boring!
Another game and everyone adheres to the script.
Right down to the non-existent free kick which led to the last goal of the game.
Boring!
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Another game and everyone adheres to the script.
Right down to the non-existent free kick which led to the last goal of the game.
Boring!
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/da572bf7d6045df62395392950ecfef1/tumblr_mm681qNocA1qfrw7to1_400.gif)
That clip is gold - too funny.
Both the Kray brothers are masters of over acting to umpires decisions they don't like.
How much does Mick hate Mark Stevens....??? Just dismisses him as a fool...hilarious :))
This just keeps happening to us. This year it has been like Groundhog Day.
I could see this happening from the 2nd qtr. We would get noses in front then lose by a kick.
Granted we had no bench bur good teams find a way.
I cannot wait for the day that we find way. We have lost too many games by under 2 goals this year.
Any news on injuries. Ellard, menzel and Thomas?
7 losses under 15 pts... Says it all....
7 losses under 15 pts... Says it all....
Like what?
Let me get my thoughts together...
When the frig is this frigging club going to go to the afl and abuse the umpiring system. How many frigging games do we lose because of those green maggots?
Any 50/50 decision when the heat is on always goes against us. As a club we always cop it on the chin, well frig em, enough is enough.
I mean that fair bump Rowe did on Softwood, WTF?
Time for MM to come out with guns blazing or even this could be the first job of Triggy.
Carlton played well, Geelong played for frees and the umps just umpired friggin crape again. >:(
We lost that game between the ears, nothing else.
Our players were more tired than the Cats due to losing Menzel, Thomas & Ellard to injury.
The free kick to Christensen was poor but it wasn't the reason why we lost. We just weren't good enough when it really mattered, as usual, at the death.
Let me get my thoughts together...
When the frig is this frigging club going to go to the afl and abuse the umpiring system. How many frigging games do we lose because of those green maggots?
Any 50/50 decision when the heat is on always goes against us. As a club we always cop it on the chin, well frig em, enough is enough.
I mean that fair bump Rowe did on Softwood, WTF?
Time for MM to come out with guns blazing or even this could be the first job of Triggy.
Carlton played well, Geelong played for frees and the umps just umpired friggin crape again. >:(
Thats the problem, I reckon MM goes to em all guns blazing more often than we know. And they react each following week by getting the dirty pineapple and gently inserting it where the sun doesn't shine. I reckon our Club needs to STFU and get on with it. Its like players pointing to the screen asking the umpire to have another look. They never do and never change a decision so why waste the oxygen? Focus on the next passage of play and your immediate opponent.
We lost that game between the ears, nothing else.
Our players were more tired than the Cats due to losing Menzel, Thomas & Ellard to injury.
The free kick to Christensen was poor but it wasn't the reason why we lost. We just weren't good enough when it really mattered, as usual, at the death.
Nailed it...we cannot win close games because the list is not that good
We have good endeavour but skills poise finishing is not there
Armfield is a spud.....
Let me get my thoughts together...
When the frig is this frigging club going to go to the afl and abuse the umpiring system. How many frigging games do we lose because of those green maggots?
Any 50/50 decision when the heat is on always goes against us. As a club we always cop it on the chin, well frig em, enough is enough.
I mean that fair bump Rowe did on Softwood, WTF?
Time for MM to come out with guns blazing or even this could be the first job of Triggy.
Carlton played well, Geelong played for frees and the umps just umpired friggin crape again. >:(
Thats the problem, I reckon MM goes to em all guns blazing more often than we know. And they react each following week by getting the dirty pineapple and gently inserting it where the sun doesn't shine. I reckon our Club needs to STFU and get on with it. Its like players pointing to the screen asking the umpire to have another look. They never do and never change a decision so why waste the oxygen? Focus on the next passage of play and your immediate opponent.
I'm sorry but that is bull, we have for soooo long now just towed the line and been the alfs little yes club. We have created no waves and have taken whatever comes our way, we'll no more!
We are sitting 13th and will always be there abouts because are now a spineless club that is meek.
How many games or finals have been spoken about on here complaint about the what if umpiring decisions.
As a club we need to ask why does it CONTINUALLY happen?
Take your boots down to OO during the week and you'll get a trip to Adelaide next week.
5 serious non starters next week with hardly anyone in the Northern BLues. Cripps, Garlett, Lucas, Watson and Johnson only need to stand up tomorrow to be seriously considered.
Another game and everyone adheres to the script.
Right down to the non-existent free kick which led to the last goal of the game.
Boring!
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/da572bf7d6045df62395392950ecfef1/tumblr_mm681qNocA1qfrw7to1_400.gif)
That clip is gold - too funny.
Both the Kray brothers are masters of over acting to umpires decisions they don't like.
Great clip and love the Kray Bros tag, Ronnie and Regie eh! Reminds me of the Monty Python skit on them, The Pirhana Twins. :))
7 losses under 15 pts... Says it all....
Like what?
Says to me that we just don't have enough class. Got to get rid of the ordinary players and draft in some new blood. Having said that we did play the game out for 4Qs, just not quite good enough.
Spot on cookie.
We are simply not good enough
Delist the hacks and plodders
7 losses under 15 pts... Says it all....
Like what?
Says to me that we just don't have enough class. Got to get rid of the ordinary players and draft in some new blood. Having said that we did play the game out for 4Qs, just not quite good enough.
I would have said that 4 or 5 of those were so far back in the season that they are almost irrelevant.
Someone said that if you'd told me Henderson, Everitt, Robinson and Walker had been out and we'd lose Thomas, Menzel and Ellard in the game I'd say we lucky to be within 10 goals.
So the stat is meaningless.
One thing I will say is that we have gone a bit hermit crabby in the last couple of close ones.
But at least we are saying something.
Not like numbnuts, who can't string a screwing sentence together.
Did anyone else think that miss of Murph's from the set shot in the third rather poor ??
Have to kick those all the time regardless of who the opposition is.
Better a dozen close lost games than 2 or 3 thrashings. Get a hold of yourselves guys. Sure we fail to win close games. How many sides have Kreuzer, Robinson, Garlett, Everitt, Henderson types out of their squads. The quality they give our squad that is. Then to lose 3 players during a game to kill the rotations.
The free kick for hands in the back killed my will to watch the final minutes with open eyes. Why do umpires pay these free kicks when the game is on the line ? Poor skills by both side tonight. Wood, is one I won't even comment on.
We came close, but no cigar. They had a better list by a country mile, and failed to bury us. Be angry with the loss, but be happy we didn't lose buy 5 plus goals either, considering we had no bench in the last quarter. A crap game in terms of skills and ability. A decent fight for 4 quarters from kids who don't have talent to win games off their own boot. We didn't drop this game. They just got out of jail with a list that kills ours on paper. Poor quality game, but we didn't get flogged, so why be unhappy with that ?
Clean up the list and move forward. Don't be angry, because Cats supporters are taking this win as a huge leap forward towards the finals. Not an angry supporter. Carrotts killed Selwood, so Brock needs to move on.
Did anyone else think that miss of Murph's from the set shot in the third rather poor ??
Have to kick those all the time regardless of who the opposition is.
Yes, but he was not the only one to shank a kick. Poor night for skills. Maybe they need to avoid contact lenses at night. ;D
Getting sick of falling just short against these guys. Has there been a softer free than the one which cost us the game?
I like what the club is building though and look forwardto seeing what next year brings after it was looking very shaky for a long while there
Give Touhy the last few weeks off. I dont think he's played a good game this year, nothing close to last year anyway. Looks confused with ball in hand.
I am/was a huge Armfield fan, but he's got to go too. Just no other options I spose.
Let me get my thoughts together...
When the frig is this frigging club going to go to the afl and abuse the umpiring system. How many frigging games do we lose because of those green maggots?
Any 50/50 decision when the heat is on always goes against us. As a club we always cop it on the chin, well frig em, enough is enough.
I mean that fair bump Rowe did on Softwood, WTF?
Time for MM to come out with guns blazing or even this could be the first job of Triggy.
Carlton played well, Geelong played for frees and the umps just umpired friggin crape again. >:(
Thats the problem, I reckon MM goes to em all guns blazing more often than we know. And they react each following week by getting the dirty pineapple and gently inserting it where the sun doesn't shine. I reckon our Club needs to STFU and get on with it. Its like players pointing to the screen asking the umpire to have another look. They never do and never change a decision so why waste the oxygen? Focus on the next passage of play and your immediate opponent.
I'm sorry but that is bull, we have for soooo long now just towed the line and been the alfs little yes club. We have created no waves and have taken whatever comes our way, we'll no more!
We are sitting 13th and will always be there abouts because are now a spineless club that is meek.
How many games or finals have been spoken about on here complaint about the what if umpiring decisions.
As a club we need to ask why does it CONTINUALLY happen?
Well I reckon we have been copping it from the umpires since the Elliot days. I reckon the AFL via the umps have had an agenda against since then, it only relaxed a little under Pagan as he was always saying (sic) "no use worrying about what you cant control". I reckon he never wrote a letter re the umpiring once. I reckon MM is into them all the time and thats why we get shafted. Its just my opinion and Im sticking to it. Im of the opinion that we should STFU and win the games off your own boot, don't worry about umps. In fact, if you think its a genuine problem, bloody plan for it. Plan to play against 25 not 22! Its all above the ears.
Did anyone else think that miss of Murph's from the set shot in the third rather poor ??
Have to kick those all the time regardless of who the opposition is.
Yep. And Gibbs turned it over a few times as did Yarran. Our better users let us down. I also thought Army was really poor, has lost his spark. Thought Thomas was awful until he went off but may have been affected by injury and Waite just didn't have that spring in his step tonight at all. Still a huge effort from the boys, just spewin those Cats got the win again, they sure didn't deserve it.
What about Carrazzo's third quarter on Selwood kept him to a couple of touches and had a heap himself help set up the game for us.
They came off exhausted so the effort can't be faulted.... they had a genuine go. Umpires are funny things... can't see Waite held by both arms from 10 metres away but can spot a contentious free to a cat's player from 150 yards away... funny that. But we need to be more than 1 goal up with 10 to play against this mob to win - the result was, I fear, inevitable.
Our mids at least squared with their blokes and showed their class... but their backs were a tad too smart and too polished. Bell is potentially a similar player to Caddy and I can see him having the same impact in games.Their delivery into F50 was also touch better.
The bomb long game-plan only works when your big blokes are taking marks, and they didn't. If there was ever a game indicating the need for a third marking option, this was it. Casboult letting Caddy mark on the line was average, but you could tell by the way he wasn't recovering after contests that he is cooked. Given it his all, but is now exhausted.
Notably poor ball use by Yarran - especially short - which created turnovers in the corridor and goals against us. That said, he played unfit so to be even out there took a lot of guts.
Our half backs are a real worry; Docherty's ball use is of major concern... Touhy is but a shadow of the player he should be. Sheehan looks a player though and at least can kick. Armfield shown up for a complete lack of nous and he looks lost and constantly out of position and unable to influence contests.
Worried for Thomas - hope it isn't his bad ankle. Menzel hurt a clearly already weak shoulder (thanks for the touch up Mackie... classic hand bag effort from that mob). Ellard - foot - that is potentially a bad one as well.
Given who we had out there the effort couldn't be faulted - now to improve the list so we can put 22 solid players out each week and not have to carry a couple. Who do we play next week?
Good summary Professor. Agree with most of that.
We play Port next week in Adelaide.
Did anyone else think that miss of Murph's from the set shot in the third rather poor ??
Have to kick those all the time regardless of who the opposition is.
Ellard had a couple of misses, again. Menzel missed a couple of sitters too, Geelong misssed more but we did miss some very gettable shots.
11 goals won't win too many games against Geelong, we were lucky Hawkins didn't have his kicking boots on.
Waite was down a bit on his last few weeks but he was still our only player who remotely resembled a key forward, we need to sell the farm for one because Casboult and White will never cut the mustard.
Malthouse has at least got us giving 100%, but we need to recruit some quality if we want to go the extra mile.
11 goals won't win too many games against Geelong, we were lucky Hawkins didn't have his kicking boots on.
Waite was down a bit on his last few weeks but he was still our only player who remotely resembled a key forward, we need to sell the farm for one because Casboult and White will never cut the mustard.
Malthouse has at least got us giving 100%, but we need to recruit some quality if we want to go the extra mile.
Agree with this. We need to go a KPF that will be around for 10+ yrs. If we don't, then once Waite goes (could be this year), then i really think it will set us back.
Anybody watch Mick's presser on the AFL website ? He seemed pretty happy by his standards.
Good to hear him pump up the boys for a terrific effort.
Gibbs twinged his back in the warm up. I saw him run off half way through.
Jamo did too. That's when he hurt his calf.
Brock obviously injured himself in the warm up too.
Absolute carnage.
Gibbs twinged his back in the warm up. I saw him run off half way through.
Jamo did too. That's when he hurt his calf.
Brock obviously injured himself in the warm up too.
Absolute carnage.
Waite survived the warm up. That's one plus. :P
great effort by an undermanned side,BUTwatching the way pussies play intelligent football,play to there strengths we have to learn this way eg 1 car player 3 cats around the ball handball,run away they go.We have to incease 2 things over summer body strengthh and fitnes .For now bring on the draft.
Anybody watch Mick's presser on the AFL website ? He seemed pretty happy by his standards.
Good to hear him pump up the boys for a terrific effort.
Absolutely. Mick is imagining next year after a good preseason and with a few new players. No wonder he's happy.
Yes
Geelong have bigger stronger bodies than ours
Thats a major reason why we get injured
Yes
Geelong have bigger stronger bodies than ours
Thats a major reason why we get injured
A major reason we get injured is because we don't do the stuff clubs like Geelong and Hawthorn do. We don't fall across blokes deliberately when we tackle them, we don't bury knees or elbows into opponents on the ground, we don't cripple opponents in marking contests, we don't make ourselves "tough to play against", we are getting better at being tough but we are still miles away from the top two or three!
In general, we spend too much time being nice blokes who play the ball! We think if we offer this type of respect we will get it in return, we are naive!
Did you notice some of those dog acts from the likes of Enright, Kelly and Varcoe last night? Real low acts, gutter acts, but then this is the team that thinks stomping on a blokes hand when he is on the ground is acceptable! ;)
Yes
Geelong have bigger stronger bodies than ours
Thats a major reason why we get injured
To be honest, I think we get injured because Geelong play a very physical game and quite often stretch the rules on contact to well past their max. Notice that we were sniped behind the play a couple of time last night as well.
Look at Hawthorn, Sydney and Geelong and they all play a more physical brand of football than we do. There are more injuries in those games. However, none of them like it when the boot is on the other foot. probably because few teams can do it enough to harm them. When Gibbs and Murphy stand up to their s*it, they do not like it at all.
With the kicking of Yarran last night, I just wonder if he had a jab to cope with his calf? He messed up too many kicks for there not to be reason.
Gibbs twinged his back in the warm up. I saw him run off half way through.
Jamo did too. That's when he hurt his calf.
Brock obviously injured himself in the warm up too.
Absolute carnage.
Waite survived the warm up. That's one plus. :P
Apparently he played with illness too.
noticing a lot of love for Carrots in the CSC voting......
Personally thought he was terrific in the 2nd half after being abysmal in the first half. Selwood creamed him early but fought back hard later. Good effort but vote worthy????? Not so sure. :-\
noticing a lot of love for Carrots in the CSC voting......
Personally thought he was terrific in the 2nd half after being abysmal in the first half. Selwood creamed him early but fought back hard later. Good effort but vote worthy????? Not so sure. :-\
Mick said much the same in his presser regarding 1st half v 2nd half performance.
Didn't he hold Selwood to 4 touches in the second half ? I could be wrong.
Yes
Geelong have bigger stronger bodies than ours
Thats a major reason why we get injured
A major reason we get injured is because we don't do the stuff clubs like Geelong and Hawthorn do. We don't fall across blokes deliberately when we tackle them, we don't bury knees or elbows into opponents on the ground, we don't cripple opponents in marking contests, we don't make ourselves "tough to play against", we are getting better at being tough but we are still miles away from the top two or three!
In general, we spend too much time being nice blokes who play the ball! We think if we offer this type of respect we will get it in return, we are naive!
Did you notice some of those dog acts from the likes of Enright, Kelly and Varcoe last night? Real low acts, gutter acts, but then this is the team that thinks stomping on a blokes hand when he is on the ground is acceptable! ;)
It's why Simon White needs to play every week.
That smashing of Selwood is something that needs to happen in the first 5 minutes every time he ducks his head.
Smash it like a pumpkin.!!!
With the kicking of Yarran last night, I just wonder if he had a jab to cope with his calf? He messed up too many kicks for there not to be reason.
Didn't mess up the goal from 50 after running the previous 50 and burning off Varcoe who's one of the fastest players in the league. Fantastic goal. THAT'S how you [should] beat Geelong.
- however -
I went purple with rage when he went to ground after that 1 on 1 marking contest in the last q.
So he's never going to the hard in and under type player. I accept that. But he's done exactly the same thing at a crucial stage in a previous game last year. FFS, all he has to do is steel himself, bring it to ground, and keep his feet. No-one's gonna catch him if he can do that. Then, after that marking contest, he limps around like a kid showing his Dad watching on the fence that he's injured. ::)
Let's hear it for the non-controlling umpire ...
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The AFL admits a decisive free kick that helped Geelong pip Carlton on Friday night was incorrect.
The Blues held the lead for most of the second half at Etihad Stadium, only to hand it over with three minutes remaining when Allen Christensen kicked the match winner.
The non-controlling umpire, stationed approximately 50m away from the ball, awarded the decisive free kick to Christensen.
Umpires boss Hayden Kennedy admitted on Saturday it was wrong for Brendan Hosking to penalise Sam Docherty's crucial spoil.
Let's hear it for the non-controlling umpire ...
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The AFL admits a decisive free kick that helped Geelong pip Carlton on Friday night was incorrect.
The Blues held the lead for most of the second half at Etihad Stadium, only to hand it over with three minutes remaining when Allen Christensen kicked the match winner.
The non-controlling umpire, stationed approximately 50m away from the ball, awarded the decisive free kick to Christensen.
Umpires boss Hayden Kennedy admitted on Saturday it was wrong for Brendan Hosking to penalise Sam Docherty's crucial spoil.
They admitted an error the last time we played them when Menzel had his head pulled off near the goal square. Now they admit another one. Add that to the umpire mauling we got against Brisbane ( we should bet Brisbane anyway,but still....) and we've lost 3 games directly as a result of late umpire errors. That stuff is the difference between being 13th and being on the tip end of the 8. Add that to dumb losses against , Richmond, Melbourne and GWS and with luck and, alot better commitment early on in the year, and what a difference this season is.
Spot on cookie.
We are simply not good enough
Delist the hacks and plodders
x2...Really thought we could win this one and its the most dissapointing loss of the season IMO and I dont see it so positive as others.
We needed to win this to stamp some authority going into next season and all I can see is Armfields kicking straight to a Geelong player and Caddy taking that pack mark
that he should enver have been allowed to grab and its always small mistakes that cost us and we need to get rid of the repeat offenders who let us down during the critical moments.
No Judd after 2015 and we need a player to step up next season and be the man Judd has been......
Let's hear it for the non-controlling umpire ...
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The AFL admits a decisive free kick that helped Geelong pip Carlton on Friday night was incorrect.
The Blues held the lead for most of the second half at Etihad Stadium, only to hand it over with three minutes remaining when Allen Christensen kicked the match winner.
The non-controlling umpire, stationed approximately 50m away from the ball, awarded the decisive free kick to Christensen.
Umpires boss Hayden Kennedy admitted on Saturday it was wrong for Brendan Hosking to penalise Sam Docherty's crucial spoil.
This happens all too often, and not only to us. Cockhead umpires trying to make heros of themselves at critical stages of games. Well AFAIC apology NOT accepted, just get this crape out of our game, it's a blight!
Let's hear it for the non-controlling umpire ...
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The AFL admits a decisive free kick that helped Geelong pip Carlton on Friday night was incorrect.
The Blues held the lead for most of the second half at Etihad Stadium, only to hand it over with three minutes remaining when Allen Christensen kicked the match winner.
The non-controlling umpire, stationed approximately 50m away from the ball, awarded the decisive free kick to Christensen.
Umpires boss Hayden Kennedy admitted on Saturday it was wrong for Brendan Hosking to penalise Sam Docherty's crucial spoil.
They admitted an error the last time we played them when Menzel had his head pulled off near the goal square. Now they admit another one. Add that to the umpire mauling we got against Brisbane ( we should bet Brisbane anyway,but still....) and we've lost 3 games directly as a result of late umpire errors. That stuff is the difference between being 13th and being on the tip end of the 8. Add that to dumb losses against , Richmond, Melbourne and GWS and with luck and, alot better commitment early on in the year, and what a difference this season is.
Add in kruezers injury Thomas lack of preseason narrow loses to Freo and hawks and I tell you what we are top 2 material! ???
Spot on cookie.
We are simply not good enough
Delist the hacks and plodders
x2...Really thought we could win this one and its the most dissapointing loss of the season IMO and I dont see it so positive as others.
We needed to win this to stamp some authority going into next season and all I can see is Armfields kicking straight to a Geelong player and Caddy taking that pack mark
that he should enver have been allowed to grab and its always small mistakes that cost us and we need to get rid of the repeat offenders who let us down during the critical moments.
No Judd after 2015 and we need a player to step up next season and be the man Judd has been......
We don't run out of interchange bench we win. We went in undermanned anyway. Even then it took a terrible umpiring decision to beat us. There's now substance in our footy for the first time since 2000. It'll get better next year. Just hope we keep Waite.
We won't be replacing Judd. You don't just replace that type of class.
noticing a lot of love for Carrots in the CSC voting......
Personally thought he was terrific in the 2nd half after being abysmal in the first half. Selwood creamed him early but fought back hard later. Good effort but vote worthy????? Not so sure. :-\
I think you'll find Nick Graham was on Selwood for a good part of the first quarter.
Carrazzo's second half was enormous not just because of Selwood's stats. One of the commentators mentioned how he would go with Selwood at the stoppages but that's where it ended. Carrazzo gave Selwood a lesson in clearances with eight, the most of any player on the night with six of them being centre clearances where he was head to head with Selwood (Selwood had one centre clearance for the game) along with an 87.5% disposal efficiency for his 32 touches.. All this whilst keeping Selwood out of the game and working hard to expose him the other way. I've said it before Carrazzo does not tag, he plays on his man and backs himself to beat him to the ball. When he's up and running he's nigh on impossible to beat. An extremely underrated player and another that looks like he has another season left in the tank.
BB I saw you gave Gibbs 10? I thought he cost us dearly with two poor skill errors under little pressure. He had a 52% disposal efficiency. Don't get me wrong he was still really good but not head and shoulders above others. IMO. ;)
An apology from the umpires is a but screwinglate when you've been done by a late goal. AGAIN. Anybody else notice a theme here?
An apology from the umpires is a but screwinglate when you've been done by a late goal. AGAIN. Anybody else notice a theme here?
As we said at the game, the AFL obviously want Geelong in the top 4 - thinking of gate receipts in the finals series?
So ump's come out and admit mistake. Just dig the knife in deeper why don't you.
noticing a lot of love for Carrots in the CSC voting......
Personally thought he was terrific in the 2nd half after being abysmal in the first half. Selwood creamed him early but fought back hard later. Good effort but vote worthy????? Not so sure. :-\
I think you'll find Nick Graham was on Selwood for a good part of the first quarter.
Carrazzo's second half was enormous not just because of Selwood's stats. One of the commentators mentioned how he would go with Selwood at the stoppages but that's where it ended. Carrazzo gave Selwood a lesson in clearances with eight, the most of any player on the night with six of them being centre clearances where he was head to head with Selwood (Selwood had one centre clearance for the game) along with an 87.5% disposal efficiency for his 32 touches.. All this whilst keeping Selwood out of the game and working hard to expose him the other way. I've said it before Carrazzo does not tag, he plays on his man and backs himself to beat him to the ball. When he's up and running he's nigh on impossible to beat. An extremely underrated player and another that looks like he has another season left in the tank.
BB I saw you gave Gibbs 10? I thought he cost us dearly with two poor skill errors under little pressure. He had a 52% disposal efficiency. Don't get me wrong he was still really good but not head and shoulders above others. IMO. ;)
selwood killed us in the first half when Curnow was running with him I thought.
In any case, Carrazzo's work both on Selwood and on the ball was a major reason we got so close to winning.
Clearly bog.
noticing a lot of love for Carrots in the CSC voting......
Personally thought he was terrific in the 2nd half after being abysmal in the first half. Selwood creamed him early but fought back hard later. Good effort but vote worthy????? Not so sure. :-\
I think you'll find Nick Graham was on Selwood for a good part of the first quarter.
Carrazzo's second half was enormous not just because of Selwood's stats. One of the commentators mentioned how he would go with Selwood at the stoppages but that's where it ended. Carrazzo gave Selwood a lesson in clearances with eight, the most of any player on the night with six of them being centre clearances where he was head to head with Selwood (Selwood had one centre clearance for the game) along with an 87.5% disposal efficiency for his 32 touches.. All this whilst keeping Selwood out of the game and working hard to expose him the other way. I've said it before Carrazzo does not tag, he plays on his man and backs himself to beat him to the ball. When he's up and running he's nigh on impossible to beat. An extremely underrated player and another that looks like he has another season left in the tank.
BB I saw you gave Gibbs 10? I thought he cost us dearly with two poor skill errors under little pressure. He had a 52% disposal efficiency. Don't get me wrong he was still really good but not head and shoulders above others. IMO. ;)
selwood killed us in the first half when Curnow was running with him I thought.
In any case, Carrazzo's work both on Selwood and on the ball was a major reason we got so close to winning.
Clearly bog.
I had Carrazzo as our best but would have given Harry Taylor the BOG votes...
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Classic, but unfortunately it is too close to the truth ::)
One thing I noticed about Rowe on Friday. He's definitely in the 'man's gots to know his limitations' category. None of this flashy running around opposition stuff again, just focus on defending. TBH he has been fantastic but I don't see him as the guaranteed future, the best defenders can also attack.
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Classic!
Carrazzo was on Selwood all night, I would say they broke even which is a great effort from Carrots as he wasn't tagging him, he went head to head with him.
Carrazzo was on Selwood all night, I would say they broke even which is a great effort from Carrots as he wasn't tagging him, he went head to head with him.
That's just it, that's how he 'tags'. Been doing it for years. I thought he had Selwood's measure personally, especially when the game was there to be won in the second half. But I could have sworn it was Graham playing on him when he kicked the goal in the first quarter. Unless Carrazzo was off the ground at the time.
Carrazzo was on Selwood all night, I would say they broke even which is a great effort from Carrots as he wasn't tagging him, he went head to head with him.
That's just it, that's how he 'tags'. Been doing it for years. I thought he had Selwood's measure personally, especially when the game was there to be won in the second half. But I could have sworn it was Graham playing on him when he kicked the goal in the first quarter. Unless Carrazzo was off the ground at the time.
Re watched that bit last night Carrots, and Simmo was running with him but stopped, Selwood kept moving into space and Graham was trying to get there to cover but too late...Simmo stuffed that one up.
Carrazzo was on Selwood all night, I would say they broke even which is a great effort from Carrots as he wasn't tagging him, he went head to head with him.
That's just it, that's how he 'tags'. Been doing it for years. I thought he had Selwood's measure personally, especially when the game was there to be won in the second half. But I could have sworn it was Graham playing on him when he kicked the goal in the first quarter. Unless Carrazzo was off the ground at the time.
He was on the bench when Selwood got the goal.
MM said Carrazzo had the Selwood job all night but they were not happy with Carrazzo's first half, but very happy that he levelled things out in the second half. As MBB says, that's breaking even!
I thought Carrazzo was one of our better players, but I can't give a bloke BOG if he is beaten for almost a half. For me BOG means four quarters, none of them beaten, it must be break even or win. I didn't see any Carlton players win four quarters last night but Murphy would go close to breaking even in that he didn't really lose any quarters, but overall it was a very good team effort.
Fair enough, I'd have the guy that had the most influence on the game for us, clearly Carrazzo. For example if a forward is well beaten in the first half but kicks 6 second half goals to win the game you'd probably have them as BOG. Each to their own!
PS I don't think six centre clearances to one is breaking even. ;)
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Classic!
x 2 ..yep gotta a laugh out of that...
Talking of maggots, did anyone see the Wells hit on Higgins today. Hit square on the jaw with his shoulder. Surely he has to go for that one? Made Rowe's look like a love tap.
Talking of maggots, did anyone see the Wells hit on Higgins today. Hit square on the jaw with his shoulder. Surely he has to go for that one? Made Rowe's look like a love tap.
That hit of Rowes on Softwood was a classic hip and shoulder within the required distance of play and should never EVER have been paid a free. That ump should never umpire again this year, he should be ashamed...very ashamed.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/carlton-star-dale-thomas-escapes-serious-injury-20140818-105fnw.html
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