CARLTON coach Mick Malthouse believes a fit-again Matthew Kreuzer will be the one to take his side to another level next year, despite another off-season luring talent from rival clubs.
GWS pair Kristian Jaksch and Mark Whiley, Western Bulldogs forward Liam Jones and ex-Sydney defender Matt Dick were all plucked by the Blues last month.
But Malthouse said Kreuzer, who endured a nightmare 2014 season hampered by more foot surgery, was ready to explode.
“I feel very confident he’ll have a great season,” Malthouse said.
“I think he’ll be our No.1 recruit. He’s got so much to add to our football side. He’s aggressive, he’s a multi-positional player, he wears his heart on his sleeve, he bleeds blue blood.
“I think every player and official in the club wants him to success and have a bit of luck.”
Fair point about him being our No. 1 recruit, if fully fit and completely over his injury issues, he could have a huge impact.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-coach-mick-malthouse-says-a-fitagain-matthew-kreuzer-can-take-blues-to-another-level/story-fnia3ybj-1227122001273
I'll be happy if he can get out on the park each week and get through a season....dont expect him to be a dominant player just play his role and be competitive...
Key to finals? Is Mick making excuses already? I thought he'd sorted our list so we are less reliant on individuals?
There would be nobody happier than myself if he can get out there and back to his best, but pinning the clubs fortunes on him is shizen because history suggests he is a 50/50 proposition at best!
When I think back to that Swans game he played at close to his best, what we lost through his injury problems, it's a tragedy for everyone in the AFL not just Carlton. At his best he was every bit as capable as Dean Cox.
The thread title is misleading and simply not true.
Show me where MM makes that statement.
The words MM uses are 'to another level' which are very ambiguous and could mean pretty much anything.
I do agree with the idea that a fit Kreuzer will make Carlton a better side than not having him at all.
"Multi positional" scares the crap outta me...
The headline has actually changed since this was published :))
"Multi positional" scares the crap outta me...
yep..play his best footy on the ball and then resting up forward he can be dangerous for short periods but none of this KP Forward stuff please..didnt work with Hampson and wont work with MK either.
The thread title is misleading and simply not true.
Show me where MM makes that statement.
The words MM uses are 'to another level' which are very ambiguous and could mean pretty much anything.
I do agree with the idea that a fit Kreuzer will make Carlton a better side than not having him at all.
Very misleading heading. Key to finals is not mentioned at all. Must be Shieks take on it.
I don't know about the Multi-positional bit either. He's a ruckman and can be a damn good one. That's his position.
A full, fit season would be a huge plus for us.
Kreuzer could have been described as a key a couple years ago but now if he can just play through a season I will be happy. We are a better side with him in no doubt though, always go back to his second game back from injury against Sydney a couple years ago he looked the deal then boy o boy.
Everyone has their theories some say he was played way too much to early and is breaking down as a result, but I just want to see him out there, it will be sad if he can never hit any good form again.
I definitely think he was played in the ruck far too early by Ratts but I don't think that's the reason he's always injured now. I think it all comes back to that knee injury quite a few years ago.
I definitely think he was played in the ruck far too early by Ratts but I don't think that's the reason he's always injured now. I think it all comes back to that knee injury quite a few years ago.
I maintain the strong view that kruezers knee demanded a full 12 months on the sidelines
kruezer came back training in 6 months which gave him long term problems
the club were not strong enough at the time to control him...
I definitely think he was played in the ruck far too early by Ratts but I don't think that's the reason he's always injured now. I think it all comes back to that knee injury quite a few years ago.
I maintain the strong view that kruezers knee demanded a full 12 months on the sidelines
kruezer came back training in 6 months which gave him long term problems
the club were not strong enough at the time to control him...
My daughter (who has had two knee recos) did some research on knee surgery rehabilitation when she was studying human anatomy. She found that there was a dramatic decrease in rates of re-injury when there was a full 12 months rehabilitation before a return to competitive sport.
Kreuzer should have been treated as a long term investment and kept on ice for the full 12 months.
Hopefully, he'll remain injury free and really live up to his potential for the rest of a very long career.
I thought MK didn't play a game in anger for 12 months though? You'd expect training to resume before that as part of his rehab.
I thought MK didn't play a game in anger for 12 months though? You'd expect training to resume before that as part of his rehab.
no.. you stay on ice and/or cotton wool
i was at the b & f the year he did hid knee - MK spoke to the crowd when he said he was aiming for Round 1 - the crowd then erupted in applause
i was aghast when I heard it because I knew then he was pushing it too fast...
I thought MK didn't play a game in anger for 12 months though? You'd expect training to resume before that as part of his rehab.
no.. you stay on ice and/or cotton wool
i was at the b & f the year he did hid knee - MK spoke to the crowd when he said he was aiming for Round 1 - the crowd then erupted in applause
i was aghast when I heard it because I knew then he was pushing it too fast...
He didn't actually come back until R12 (can't remember how many reserves game he played).
As for what he told supporters... There's membership to sell.
The head scratcher for me was bringing him back in the twos last year
In regards to Kreuzer doing his knee and us rushing him back. 12 months appears to be the AFL norm.
However, in the NFL, there have been some absolutely ludicrous comebacks made.
For those that care, i'm a Vikings fan, and although of late has been a bit sketchy, i am an Adrian Peterson fan. His comeback story is crazy good.
For those who don't know, Peterson is a running back. He has been the best running back the league has had in quite a while. He has just about every Vikings runnings back record there is, and quite a few NFL ones along with it. This guy is equivalent to your Gary Ablett / Chris Judd types here in terms of standing in the game.
On xmas eve 2011, Peterson blew out his knee. Got tackled side on with full body weight of his oppenent directed squarely on the side of his knee. He tore his ACL and MCL. Career potentially over. He had surgery over new years and vowed to come back bigger and better than ever.
9 months later, he was back playing Round 1 of the new season. Remarkable enough, sure.
However, by the end of the 16 games that season, he fell just 7 yards short of the all-time single season rushing record. 2097 yards he ran for. A 'good' running back gets half that for a season. A excellent one averages 100 yards a game - 1600. He won a multitude of awards in his comeback season, the best of which was the highest possible award - League MVP.
If he was a FF in the AFL, it would be like him averaging 40 touches a game 9 months after having surgery, or kicking 150 goals.
Yes, Peterson is a freak athlete and elite in the sport. However, some other NFL players have played after 7 months out of the game.
The AFL has a '12 month' guideline, but that is not shared throughout the world. For the record, i'd rate what Peterson has/had to do as harder than what an AFL player has to do in terms of stress on the knee over your average game.
In regards to Kreuzer doing his knee and us rushing him back. 12 months appears to be the AFL norm.
However, in the NFL, there have been some absolutely ludicrous comebacks made.
For those that care, i'm a Vikings fan, and although of late has been a bit sketchy, i am an Adrian Peterson fan. His comeback story is crazy good.
I too am a vikings fan, my grandfather was from Minnesota.
@kruddler
ruckman have bigger frames and longer legs to heal
12 months was a minimum for MK
In regards to Kreuzer doing his knee and us rushing him back. 12 months appears to be the AFL norm.
However, in the NFL, there have been some absolutely ludicrous comebacks made.
For those that care, i'm a Vikings fan, and although of late has been a bit sketchy, i am an Adrian Peterson fan. His comeback story is crazy good.
For those who don't know, Peterson is a running back. He has been the best running back the league has had in quite a while. He has just about every Vikings runnings back record there is, and quite a few NFL ones along with it. This guy is equivalent to your Gary Ablett / Chris Judd types here in terms of standing in the game.
On xmas eve 2011, Peterson blew out his knee. Got tackled side on with full body weight of his oppenent directed squarely on the side of his knee. He tore his ACL and MCL. Career potentially over. He had surgery over new years and vowed to come back bigger and better than ever.
9 months later, he was back playing Round 1 of the new season. Remarkable enough, sure.
However, by the end of the 16 games that season, he fell just 7 yards short of the all-time single season rushing record. 2097 yards he ran for. A 'good' running back gets half that for a season. A excellent one averages 100 yards a game - 1600. He won a multitude of awards in his comeback season, the best of which was the highest possible award - League MVP.
If he was a FF in the AFL, it would be like him averaging 40 touches a game 9 months after having surgery, or kicking 150 goals.
Yes, Peterson is a freak athlete and elite in the sport. However, some other NFL players have played after 7 months out of the game.
The AFL has a '12 month' guideline, but that is not shared throughout the world. For the record, i'd rate what Peterson has/had to do as harder than what an AFL player has to do in terms of stress on the knee over your average game.
With all due respect, this seems to be the exception, and not the rule.
Call me bitter, call me pessimistic, but to me, this just reinforces the fact that drugs in sport are so far ahead of the anti doping authority that they are able to rebuild a blokes knee, and have him come back faster, better, stronger, harder...
Contrast this to Kouta. Did his knee, and returned to the the game a shadow of his former self. Still a bloody good player, but not the dominant force able to influence results off his own boot anymore.
I would be staggered if there was more known today than there was back then in terms of how to rebuild a knee.
The fact that amateurs are treated the same way, and sometimes have a 400% difference in recovery makes me really suspect about proffesionals these days.
I guess the Essendon saga is a loss of innocense in more ways than one.
In regards to Kreuzer doing his knee and us rushing him back. 12 months appears to be the AFL norm.
However, in the NFL, there have been some absolutely ludicrous comebacks made.
For those that care, i'm a Vikings fan, and although of late has been a bit sketchy, i am an Adrian Peterson fan. His comeback story is crazy good.
For those who don't know, Peterson is a running back. He has been the best running back the league has had in quite a while. He has just about every Vikings runnings back record there is, and quite a few NFL ones along with it. This guy is equivalent to your Gary Ablett / Chris Judd types here in terms of standing in the game.
On xmas eve 2011, Peterson blew out his knee. Got tackled side on with full body weight of his oppenent directed squarely on the side of his knee. He tore his ACL and MCL. Career potentially over. He had surgery over new years and vowed to come back bigger and better than ever.
9 months later, he was back playing Round 1 of the new season. Remarkable enough, sure.
However, by the end of the 16 games that season, he fell just 7 yards short of the all-time single season rushing record. 2097 yards he ran for. A 'good' running back gets half that for a season. A excellent one averages 100 yards a game - 1600. He won a multitude of awards in his comeback season, the best of which was the highest possible award - League MVP.
If he was a FF in the AFL, it would be like him averaging 40 touches a game 9 months after having surgery, or kicking 150 goals.
Yes, Peterson is a freak athlete and elite in the sport. However, some other NFL players have played after 7 months out of the game.
The AFL has a '12 month' guideline, but that is not shared throughout the world. For the record, i'd rate what Peterson has/had to do as harder than what an AFL player has to do in terms of stress on the knee over your average game.
With all due respect, this seems to be the exception, and not the rule.
Call me bitter, call me pessimistic, but to me, this just reinforces the fact that drugs in sport are so far ahead of the anti doping authority that they are able to rebuild a blokes knee, and have him come back faster, better, stronger, harder...
Contrast this to Kouta. Did his knee, and returned to the the game a shadow of his former self. Still a bloody good player, but not the dominant force able to influence results off his own boot anymore.
I would be staggered if there was more known today than there was back then in terms of how to rebuild a knee.
The fact that amateurs are treated the same way, and sometimes have a 400% difference in recovery makes me really suspect about proffesionals these days.
I guess the Essendon saga is a loss of innocense in more ways than one.
This part says it all, but for different reasons.
The fact professionals make a better recovery than amateurs is partly why they have risen to be professionals.
The fact Peterson made a better recovery than your average professional is why he is in the elite class he is in.
In short, its about mindset of the individual and the ability to drive themselves and get the best out of themselves. Of course genetics play a big part as well.
For anyone interested, this video shows the injury, the rehab and the season all in one. Very inspirational.
[flash=560,315]http://www.youtube.com/v/sdv8ig2qBPQ[/flash]
I would be staggered if there was more known today than there was back then in terms of how to rebuild a knee.
There has been huge advancements in the last 15 years. Keyhole surgery, better MRIs etc.
i am an Adrian Peterson fan. His comeback story is crazy good.
Not a good day to be a Vikings/Peterson fan.
i am an Adrian Peterson fan. His comeback story is crazy good.
Not a good day to be a Vikings/Peterson fan.
Should have gone with chili and an apple...
(http://www.nocturnar.com/imagenes/ha-ha-nelson-1218493842478_f.jpg)
i am an Adrian Peterson fan. His comeback story is crazy good.
Not a good day to be a Vikings/Peterson fan.
Mate, this has been going on all year. He played week 1, and has been sat on the sidelines for the last 8 weeks (getting paid mind you). Now he is officially out for the remaining 8 games....this way we don't have to pay him.
FYI, he is on 14 mil this season, so it is actually a good day. We've just saved 7 mil!
"Multi positional" scares the crap outta me...
yep..play his best footy on the ball and then resting up forward he can be dangerous for short periods but none of this KP Forward stuff please..didnt work with Hampson and wont work with MK either.
Yep spot on.