UPDATE: Former Australian cricketer Brett Lee is the latest sporting casualty to be dragged into a social media storm over hunting photos.
Another image surfaced online today after yesterday’s backlash against Glenn McGrath when photos of him hunting African animals on safari in 2008 circulated social media.
The latest picture shows Lee with McGrath around a dead bleeding animal hanging off the back of a vehicle and two children posing in the photo.
One of the children appears to be holding the dead animal’s head up.
Social media users immediately responded with distaste.
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I know plenty will disagree but I think this is an absolute disgrace. What kind of sicko hunts and kills defenceless animals and then poses smiling with their kids next to the carcass? Sorry but I find this extremely offensive.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/cricket/cricket-legend-glenn-mcgrath-shamed-over-hunting-photos/story-fnii0bxd-1227233678373
Did they break any laws?
Absolutely not, I disagree on a moral basis. Hunting is an archaic sport that should have gone out with apartheid.
Absolutely not, I disagree on a moral basis. Hunting is an archaic sport that should have gone out with apartheid.
Why?
I don't believe it's right to kill animals for nothing more than fun. I also question the mental state of those who derive pleasure from it.
I agree with Carrots on this issue. Killing animals for food is fine. Even in hunting if it is policed so that it isn't a sport of target practice. Like fishing for food and not just because you like to catch wild animals. If hunting for fun like target practice, then why don't these people go clay shooting, or to a firing range. Why kill a defenceless animal for the fun of the kill. It raises issues as to the mentality of people.
How about wild lions and tigers being let lose in suburban streets, so that they can slaughter us just for the fun of the kill. Culling animals that are a pest is a completely different story. Not stating law here but just my opinion of how I feel with moral issues.
Agree on hunting for food which I do. I hunt duck and quail in season, only take my bag and eat everything I hunt. I was brought up to hunt humanely which I always do. I disagree with the hunting of "exotic" animals for sport or fun despite it be legal.
@Carrots, what about fishing?
Is that ok if you eat it?
Is that ok if you throw them back?
Is that ok if you keep them, but don't eat them?
Have you ever killed a fly?
Have you ever killed a mouse?
Have you ever killed a bird?
Have you ever killed a cat?
There is SOOOO much grey area with this sort of thing that it is impossible for everyone to agree on right/wrong.
100% with you Carrots. Makes me want to puke!
Did they break any laws?
Not the law of the jungle.
The deer is fine. It is a pest species that causes problems in the bush - and I assume they are going to eat it.
The Cape Buffalo is probably borderline. They are pretty common so I can understand someone shooting them. Once again, it would only be OK if they were going to eat it or perhaps if there was an overwhelming case for culling due to overgrazing and habitat loss.
Shooting Hyenas is weird; you're not going to eat them and, like all of the large predators, they are under pressure. Perhaps it was a legitimate cull but, if so, it should be done by a professional shooter, not some bozo on a safari.
I just can't understand how any person with a reasonable education and an apparent understanding of world events could even contemplate shooting an elephant. I know that some African nations allow elephants to be shot in order to raise money and reduce population pressures but I think that is flawed logic.
I guess the only good news in all of this is that the McGrath Foundation has severed its links with greyhound racing.
Couldn't get the above link to work. Sounds like trophy hunting from the read. I assume the two articles have similar content. Let me know if they are completely different.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/glenn-mcgrath-former-cricketer-regrets-shooting-wildlife-on-safari-20150222-13l44q.html
I guess the only good news in all of this is that the McGrath Foundation has severed its links with greyhound racing.
I think they've also given the 'Save the Buffalo" movement the arse as well.
Killing living creatures for pleasure is disgusting.....
Piss poor Glen.
Many of those tourist safaris are with animals that have been brought up to be hunted. The animals carcass won't be wasted, it gets taken by the people organising the hunt and sold off for food/etc.
I must say I feel uneasy about it and I don't get why you'd do it but these wouldn't be wild animals.
Many of those tourist safaris are with animals that have been brought up to be hunted. The animals carcass won't be wasted, it gets taken by the people organising the hunt and sold off for food/etc.
I must say I feel uneasy about it and I don't get why you'd do it but these wouldn't be wild animals.
I suspect that the Hyenas weren't eaten IOT. They would have to be an acquired taste :P
I note that the CITES listing for African Elephants has different regulations for populations in Botswana, Namibia, Zimbabwe and South Africa so 'hunting' them is probably legal but ethically and morally wrong in my opinion.
Killing living creatures for pleasure is disgusting.....
Piss poor Glen.
x2 ....His Foundation does good work and I hope that isnt punished by folk not donating who in turn think that is punishing McGrath......think his punishment will
be the personal shame he must be feeling. If he does really regret it I would like to see him/his foundation get involved in saving some endangered animals to square the ledger....
I have no problem with legal game hunting.
I shot a few small birds as a kid with an air rifle myself.
Killing living creatures for pleasure is disgusting.....
Piss poor Glen.
x2 ....His Foundation does good work and I hope that isnt punished by folk not donating who in turn think that is punishing McGrath......think his punishment will
be the personal shame he must be feeling. If he does really regret it I would like to see him/his foundation get involved in saving some endangered animals to square the ledger....
Doesn't regret it. There's an article attached to the link where he says it's a real passion of his and he'll look forward to doing it a hole lot more once he retires.
@Carrots, what about fishing?
Is that ok if you eat it?
Is that ok if you throw them back?
Is that ok if you keep them, but don't eat them?
Have you ever killed a fly?
Have you ever killed a mouse?
Have you ever killed a bird?
Have you ever killed a cat?
There is SOOOO much grey area with this sort of thing that it is impossible for everyone to agree on right/wrong.
Ive never killed for enjoyment. I've killed flies and mossies, I don't even agree too much with fishing. I think it's disgusting the way they cook live lobster.
I just don't get how killing something can be 'sport'.
Kill for a feed... understand. Dropping a deer, or whatever, just for the sport of it... forget it.
My father inlaw is a big shooter and even has a mounted buck's head on his lounge room wall in his home... loves talking about how he killed the poor bugger.
Im not a vegan, I eat meat, and I love eating meat. I fish, and its fun, but I eat all I catch or distribute to those who would enjoy fresh seafood (not for profit).
Hunting? Its probably not for me, I have never tried it, but anyone who eats an animal really shouldnt have any real qualms with this, as there are big game hunting reserves for a reason and I have heard they were created in order to ensure the future of these animals. They make sure that they keep the species alive by raising funds for them in this manner and by controlling their populations as they are all fighting for position in these reserves.
Im not a vegan, I eat meat, and I love eating meat. I fish, and its fun, but I eat all I catch or distribute to those who would enjoy fresh seafood (not for profit).
Hunting? Its probably not for me, I have never tried it, but anyone who eats an animal really shouldnt have any real qualms with this, as there are big game hunting reserves for a reason and I have heard they were created in order to ensure the future of these animals. They make sure that they keep the species alive by raising funds for them in this manner and by controlling their populations as they are all fighting for position in these reserves.
I eat meat but that Elephant was killed for sport.....not that high powered rifles vs an elephant trapped in a reserve is sport.....
Im not a vegan, I eat meat, and I love eating meat. I fish, and its fun, but I eat all I catch or distribute to those who would enjoy fresh seafood (not for profit).
Hunting? Its probably not for me, I have never tried it, but anyone who eats an animal really shouldnt have any real qualms with this, as there are big game hunting reserves for a reason and I have heard they were created in order to ensure the future of these animals. They make sure that they keep the species alive by raising funds for them in this manner and by controlling their populations as they are all fighting for position in these reserves.
Mcgrath has his own hunting property those shots with brett lee and their kids were taken in Australia. What a thing to teach your kids, it's okay to shoot an animal dead for fun and then pose next to it's carcass smiling. Fking sickos.
So it's ok to kill to eat, but just don't enjoy or take pride in the killing part, is that how it is supposed to work?
Spot on mate. Killing animals for fun is an awful thing and yet again I question the mentality of those who derive enjoyment from it. That's my opinion.
So is taking Dugong for food using a tinny and a .303 "traditional hunting"?
Spot on mate. Killing animals for fun is an awful thing and yet again I question the mentality of those who derive enjoyment from it. That's my opinion.
I'm with you 100% on this one Carrots.
As for the mental state of these people, it's quite common for serial killers to have a history of killing and torturing animals for pleasure in the formative years. John Travers the monster who killed Anita Cobby had a history of sodomizing sheep as he slit their throats. It was the same method he used to kill her. Now I'm not suggesting that McGrath and Lee are heading down that track but to pose with slaughtered animals that have been killed for entertainment will be interpreted by some impressionable minds as acceptable which it clearly is not.
Here we go again...internet group think.
Whats next banning fishing?
Im not a vegan, I eat meat, and I love eating meat. I fish, and its fun, but I eat all I catch or distribute to those who would enjoy fresh seafood (not for profit).
Hunting? Its probably not for me, I have never tried it, but anyone who eats an animal really shouldnt have any real qualms with this, as there are big game hunting reserves for a reason and I have heard they were created in order to ensure the future of these animals. They make sure that they keep the species alive by raising funds for them in this manner and by controlling their populations as they are all fighting for position in these reserves.
Mcgrath has his own hunting property those shots with brett lee and their kids were taken in Australia. What a thing to teach your kids, it's okay to shoot an animal dead for fun and then pose next to it's carcass smiling. Fking sickos.
He has deer on his property?
Mind you, I dont see how this is very different from a pig or a lamb on the spit. In this case it might be Venison...
I would eat it once at least. Im that way inclined.
Well I must be a baddie here.
I was bought up on a farm in western Victoria when rabbits were a real menace. Before the days of myxomatosis and 1080. Rabbits were a real pest.
I had a 410 shotgun when I was 12 and shot hundreds of rabbits.
I've also shot wild deer for the venison, one of my favourite meats.
Then there is feral pigs. Been shooting them for many years, mainly from a helicopter. Dingos and wild dogs the same.
Pigs and dogs are major pests in many part of inland Australia.
Brown snakes and taipans too.
And I don't feel bad about any of it and don't intend to stop.
Well I must be a baddie here.
I was bought up on a farm in western Victoria when rabbits were a real menace. Before the days of myxomatosis and 1080. Rabbits were a real pest.
I had a 410 shotgun when I was 12 and shot hundreds of rabbits.
I've also shot wild deer for the venison, one of my favourite meats.
Then there is feral pigs. Been shooting them for many years, mainly from a helicopter. Dingos and wild dogs the same.
Pigs and dogs are major pests in many part of inland Australia.
Brown snakes and taipans too.
And I don't feel bad about any of it and don't intend to stop.
A bit different to killing an elephant in its natural habitat , and I dont see you as a baddie. A family member of mine hunts wild Pigs and took me shooting years ago....he taught me how to shoot although I shot nothing that trip except targets. The smell of a shot Pig with its guts hung out didnt do much for my evening meal from memory but I dont have a problem with culling feral animals that wreck the eco system if its done in a humane manner. Shooting a Pig and letting two large Ridgeback/Mastiff dogs have their way with it though didnt impress me and the other shooter who was with us was happy to let his dogs wage war with the wounded pigs before finishing them off himself and I found that distressing to watch.
Well I must be a baddie here.
I was bought up on a farm in western Victoria when rabbits were a real menace. Before the days of myxomatosis and 1080. Rabbits were a real pest.
I had a 410 shotgun when I was 12 and shot hundreds of rabbits.
I've also shot wild deer for the venison, one of my favourite meats.
Then there is feral pigs. Been shooting them for many years, mainly from a helicopter. Dingos and wild dogs the same.
Pigs and dogs are major pests in many part of inland Australia.
Brown snakes and taipans too.
And I don't feel bad about any of it and don't intend to stop.
You must be missing something in your life. Go see a shrink would be my advice!
Well I must be a baddie here.
I was bought up on a farm in western Victoria when rabbits were a real menace. Before the days of myxomatosis and 1080. Rabbits were a real pest.
I had a 410 shotgun when I was 12 and shot hundreds of rabbits.
I've also shot wild deer for the venison, one of my favourite meats.
Then there is feral pigs. Been shooting them for many years, mainly from a helicopter. Dingos and wild dogs the same.
Pigs and dogs are major pests in many part of inland Australia.
Brown snakes and taipans too.
And I don't feel bad about any of it and don't intend to stop.
protecting your farm and the family
Don't think you are allowed to shoot dingos anymore though?
Well I must be a baddie here.
I was bought up on a farm in western Victoria when rabbits were a real menace. Before the days of myxomatosis and 1080. Rabbits were a real pest.
I had a 410 shotgun when I was 12 and shot hundreds of rabbits.
I've also shot wild deer for the venison, one of my favourite meats.
Then there is feral pigs. Been shooting them for many years, mainly from a helicopter. Dingos and wild dogs the same.
Pigs and dogs are major pests in many part of inland Australia.
Brown snakes and taipans too.
And I don't feel bad about any of it and don't intend to stop.
protecting your farm and the family
Don't think you are allowed to shoot dingos anymore though?
When you work on the land, you do what ever it takes to protect your crops and stock, end of story. People who don't understand this concept should go hug another tree.
Well I must be a baddie here.
I was bought up on a farm in western Victoria when rabbits were a real menace. Before the days of myxomatosis and 1080. Rabbits were a real pest.
I had a 410 shotgun when I was 12 and shot hundreds of rabbits.
I've also shot wild deer for the venison, one of my favourite meats.
Then there is feral pigs. Been shooting them for many years, mainly from a helicopter. Dingos and wild dogs the same.
Pigs and dogs are major pests in many part of inland Australia.
Brown snakes and taipans too.
And I don't feel bad about any of it and don't intend to stop.
sandsmere, I grew up in a farming community too, where it was common for friends to go rabbit and fox shooting. I've met a number of pig shooters up here in Qld now too. I haven't done it a lot my self, but certainly don't have a problem with it as long as animals are killed as quickly and/or as humanely as possible.
The hunters I know are all well adjusted, upstanding citizens, to suggest other wise to me demonstrates a fair bit of naivety about the whole issue IMO.
I also agree with EB2, letting dogs have their way with a wild pig is cruel to the pig.
My grandfather was a dogger and he destroyed more vermin than just about anybody- camels, rabbits, dingoes, foxes, dogs, starlings, pidgeons... you name it he had a contract for it. But the two things he taught us kids was that (1) even scabby old vermin should be dispatched promptly and cleanly and (2) no animal deserves to die for no apparent reason. Old Alf would have been bewildered by the concept of "sporting shooting".
My Grandfather and Greatgrand father used to hunt Grizzlies on the ranch in minnesota.
My grandfather was a dogger and he destroyed more vermin than just about anybody- camels, rabbits, dingoes, foxes, dogs, starlings, pidgeons... you name it he had a contract for it. But the two things he taught us kids was that (1) even scabby old vermin should be dispatched promptly and cleanly and (2) no animal deserves to die for no apparent reason. Old Alf would have been bewildered by the concept of "sporting shooting".
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My grandfather was a dogger and he destroyed more vermin than just about anybody- camels, rabbits, dingoes, foxes, dogs, starlings, pidgeons... you name it he had a contract for it. But the two things he taught us kids was that (1) even scabby old vermin should be dispatched promptly and cleanly and (2) no animal deserves to die for no apparent reason. Old Alf would have been bewildered by the concept of "sporting shooting".
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Yep, I can live with that attitude as well.
You must be missing something in your life. Go see a shrink would be my advice!
Spoken like a true little city kid that has seen very little except concrete and carpet.
you're the one that's missing something! Australia's a huge great country. Get out and have a look at it.
Your kidding aren't you? I've been to most places in Aus and most places in the world other than Africa and Asia which don't really interest me. Seen plenty of Aus both outback and backyard. :))
My grandfather was a dogger and he destroyed more vermin than just about anybody- camels, rabbits, dingoes, foxes, dogs, starlings, pidgeons... you name it he had a contract for it. But the two things he taught us kids was that (1) even scabby old vermin should be dispatched promptly and cleanly and (2) no animal deserves to die for no apparent reason. Old Alf would have been bewildered by the concept of "sporting shooting".
Yes this is really the line, it's the same situation as those slaughter houses in the Indonesia and the lack of respect an animal gets to be considered halal(They have to be bleed if I recall). My relatives are farmers and they too have to deal with livestock and feral animals. The situation with live exports was so distressing to them they have refuse to participate, although they have no power on how intermediaries behave.
It's all about respect for nature which as a statement will surely raise the ire of vegans everywhere. But those vegans eat "certified organic" fruits and vegetables that are grown using "natural fertilizers" to sustain the soil, "natural fertilizers" that are basically dried blood and ground bones from a certified abattoir! But Sshh, don't tell anyone! ;)
I agree with Carrots on this issue.
To me the word "issue" gets used far to often - there is no issue. The only "issue" is the one you have. They didn't break any laws and if you don't like it so be it. It isn't an "issue" but an opinion and just because you have one doesn't mean it's wrong or right. This is a opportunistic media beat up in my opinion and another example of the media now making news rather than reporting news.
To me the word "issue" gets used far to often - there is no issue. The only "issue" is the one you have. They didn't break any laws and if you don't like it so be it. It isn't an "issue" but an opinion and just because you have one doesn't mean it's wrong or right. This is a opportunistic media beat up in my opinion and another example of the media now making news rather than reporting news.
Too true SPF.
For a few ratings and an extra copy or two these media spuds have zero morals, and why would we expect them to given that the upper levels of many corporations are flooded with sociopaths. Yet in the AFL we give them unfettered power over stuff like the umpires audio feed and we expect them to do the right thing, furthermore we allow them to broadcast opinion without redress, in effect they have zero accountability and maximum opportunity to corrupt. It is inevitable!
Let's ask Alan Jones or Andrew Bolt, we can trust them they will guide us without a beat up? ;)
I agree with Carrots on this issue.
To me the word "issue" gets used far to often - there is no issue. The only "issue" is the one you have. They didn't break any laws and if you don't like it so be it. It isn't an "issue" but an opinion and just because you have one doesn't mean it's wrong or right. This is a opportunistic media beat up in my opinion and another example of the media now making news rather than reporting news.
Not really, when you consider the Mcgrath Foundation just cut ties with the GRV due to their cruel treatment of animals, I think it's a worthy headline myself. No media beat up. Shooting animals for fun is getting less and less socially acceptable as time goes by. Like I said, it's an archaic sport that has no place in today's society. IMO.
Spot on mate. Killing animals for fun is an awful thing and yet again I question the mentality of those who derive enjoyment from it. That's my opinion.
I'm with you 100% on this one Carrots.
As for the mental state of these people, it's quite common for serial killers to have a history of killing and torturing animals for pleasure in the formative years. John Travers the monster who killed Anita Cobby had a history of sodomizing sheep as he slit their throats. It was the same method he used to kill her. Now I'm not suggesting that McGrath and Lee are heading down that track but to pose with slaughtered animals that have been killed for entertainment will be interpreted by some impressionable minds as acceptable which it clearly is not.
x3.
Respectfully, those who are justifying killing critters on farms, fishing etc are missing the point. Dropping animals for sport, aint sport - in fact killing animals for sport is vile IMHO.
Most of us when we go fishing, take the fish home (if correct or larger size), scale, fillet and eat it, no problemmo (or cook it whole in foil with herbs etc... yum). Farmers who cull animals on their farm to protect livestock, or kill for food for the family, no problemmo. But killing animals for sport!!! FO, that's not sport... except when the Mighty CFC annihilates aa Magpie, Hawk, Tiger, Cat, Swan, Lion, Eagle etc for sport... now that's the kind of killing for sport we want. Bring it on! It fact it should be encouraged.
I agree with Carrots on this issue.
To me the word "issue" gets used far to often - there is no issue. The only "issue" is the one you have. They didn't break any laws and if you don't like it so be it. It isn't an "issue" but an opinion and just because you have one doesn't mean it's wrong or right. This is a opportunistic media beat up in my opinion and another example of the media now making news rather than reporting news.
Sorry if I offend you SPF, but I am allowed an opinion and I am allowed to call it an issue. Carrots original post stated he found it offensive for a person to shoot a defenceless animal for sport. Then to post pictures of him and his kids smiling while they hold up the head of the dead carcass. I refer to this as an issue as many find this sport of killing for fun offensive. Not culling because of pests, protecting crops, killing for food etc. Just for the pure reason of trophy kills for fun.
Just because an action isn't breaking a law doesn't mean it isn't offensive to many, and therefore not an issue in any shape or form. Otherwise we wouldn't have animals rights organisations around the world trying to stamp out such activities of towards animals. Read my original "link" and you will see Glenn enjoys the action of trophy killing. Sport of fun in killing animals for the trophy. Probably similar to those who mount animal heads on boards, which are displayed in their game rooms in their homes. Is it legal ? Probably is in quite a few countries. Do many see this as an acceptable hobby ? Many yes, but there are probably far more that find it a sport which is offensive. Not because they are all tree huggers. Just because it could be perceived to be cruel to kill a helpless animal. For no more reason than to brag to their friends. Therefore I don't think it should be legal. Therefore I find it to be an issue. Especially with animals that roam the African land and pose no threat to the land they normally live on. Not considered a pest. Not eaten as a first choice of food supply to the hunters in question. Elephants, Hyenas etc.
Some countries from the middle east allow activities to take place towards people. A man can rape his wife if he choses to do so. She doesn't have a right to reject a sexual advance towards her, because she is his wife and he owns her. In fact if she sleeps with another man, he is allowed to physically beat her as punishment. She has no right to embarrass him by doing such actions. The husband however can sleep with whoever he likes, and the wife can't question anything. She has no rights. Beating a person to teach them a lesson is an acceptable action. Therefore it is legal, because their culture doesn't punish such activity. Therefore it isn't an issue. People of different cultures shouldn't see this as an issue, or see it as an illegal offence. I didn't want to mention which cultures participate in such activities as we don't want to open a different can of worms here. Should we be fine on people beating women because the law allows them to. Sleeping with 13 year old females because it is accepted by such cultures ? Burning them with acids, fire etc.
If I upset you with my opinions, I am sorry if you get offended by what I state as my opinion, and an issue to me. I won't apologise for what I believe in and what I think is an issue. Both above examples are serious issues to me. I can't agree that either can be legal in any shape or form. Can I stop what is going on ? No. Do many others feel the same as I do on similar subject matter ? I am sure there are very many that do. I consider it an issue and that is not just me. Legal is not always right in the eyes of many people.
I apologise if you find the term "issue" offensive, as I find this to be an issue the law has failed to address and stamp out (Mainly the Safari hunting). I will however, not amend my post with another term. It is the best way I can describe what it is we are having a discussion over. An exchange of opinions on a particular subject matter.
I can agree with you that the media can beat up a story to sell news. Is this what is happening here ? Yes to a great extent. Does it open up peoples eyes to see what is happening around the world ? Yes. Isn't that what the media is here for in the first place ? Yes. To let us know what is going on, that we may not be aware of. Will you and I see eye to eye on this subject ? Probably not. We may do so on many other subjects or issues. Not having a go at you, by the way. Just letting you know what I think.
Great post Mants.
Albeit very long. :P
There is always 2 sides to every story.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-i-shoot-elephants-20150225-13o9lf.html
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Another sicko posing with carcasses.
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Another sicko posing with carcasses.
Well said mate. Mind you, I get just as upset when I see what is happening to the amazing Pangolin being recently reported in the press again..whale fishing..and even more about the rampant demise of sharks, especially in asia for shark fin soups. Catch Shark, cut off fin and throw animal back in water. Absolutely outrageous, a real indifference. Life is simply cheaper in some parts of the world where anything non human is treated as a commodity. Makes me think that some parts of Asia and Africa have not evolved past a 19th century mentality at a 2st century industrial scale. The west did it, now it's others turns. Breaks my bloody heart. It's just a race to the bottom with no plan for the next generation. I've got two kids under ten and I worry what world they'll inherent and pass onto their kids. especially when dic@kheads pay money to trophy hunt majestic creatures for the kick of it.
That's spot on mate that's what I mean when i say archaic, these places simply have not evolved at all.
Might I also add, the heroin trade helps poor villagers in Afghanistan, so does that make heroin okay?
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Another sicko posing with carcasses.
As I have stated, I hunt game but that photo sickens me to the core.
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Another sicko posing with carcasses.
Well said mate. Mind you, I get just as upset when I see what is happening to the amazing Pangolin being recently reported in the press again..whale fishing..and even more about the rampant demise of sharks, especially in asia for shark fin soups. Catch Shark, cut off fin and throw animal back in water. Absolutely outrageous, a real indifference. Life is simply cheaper in some parts of the world where anything non human is treated as a commodity. Makes me think that some parts of Asia and Africa have not evolved past a 19th century mentality at a 2st century industrial scale. The west did it, now it's others turns. Breaks my bloody heart. It's just a race to the bottom with no plan for the next generation. I've got two kids under ten and I worry what world they'll inherent and pass onto their kids. especially when dic@kheads pay money to trophy hunt majestic creatures for the kick of it.
Woody...good point about Sharks and the cruel practice of throwing them back in after removing their fins, its at the same level as Middle eastern cultures who mince our sheep they have bought while still alive and those countries that kill cattle in a cruel way without stunning them first ...
As for that photo of that moron with the dead elephant...thats fine culling rogue animals that are dangerous etc, dont have a problem with that
but he let himself down with that trophy photo showing how proud he is of killing that animal.....
How can you be proud of creeping up on a defenceless animal and shooting it? What is there to be proud of what does he think he's achieved? That photo takes away all credibility with regards to his article. Just a goose.
How can you be proud of creeping up on a defenceless animal and shooting it? What is there to be proud of what does he think he's achieved? That photo takes away all credibility with regards to his article. Just a goose.
I think there are good points he makes in the article and I have no offence to a cull of a species with a specific need in mind. I definitely agree with you that this photo takes a great deal of credibility away from the text printed. If he showed an image or video of a rogue elephant destroying a poor farmers crop, he would be respected far more with the content of his article. The image of a slain animal never paints a pretty picture, as many people will just think, "poor elephant". He could have been far more clever than he was.
Hunting used to be big in a bygone era but that type of hunting has no place now.