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Title: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on March 25, 2015, 10:46:50 am
So far:

[1] Northern Blues FC 11.9 75 Werribee Tigers FC 4.12 36

[2] DL--Northern Blues 5.6.36 v Sandringham 11.11.77
 Seniors---Northern Blues 13.9.87 v Sandringham 13.6.84

2 good results, considering.

Next:
Friday April 3        
VFL Seniors Northern Blues FC Box Hill Hawks FC Ikon Park  1:00 PM
AFL Vic Dev League Northern Blues FC Box Hill Hawks FC Ikon Park  10:00 AM
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on March 25, 2015, 10:52:31 am
NORTHERN BLUES      3.1      7.5      9.7      13. 9. (87)
SANDRINGHAM      1.3     3.5      9.6      13. 6. (84)
 
GOALS
NORTHERN: Armitage 5, Johnson 2, Ellard 2, Casboult, Armfield, Graham, Walton.
SANDRINGHAM: Payne 3, White 2, Zijai, Simpkin, Kreymborg, Cook, Holmes, Hayes, Saunders,Dennis-Lane

Ellard returned from injury and impressed. Armitage is a new guys from Manly in Sydney. More on best players and possessions when I can get them. 
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: gobaggers1 on March 25, 2015, 02:08:27 pm
Hi Guys,

Would be nice to know how the listed players went in this match, who plated etc, if anybody saw the match.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: LP on March 25, 2015, 02:11:24 pm
It's a real worry for me when a guy like Casboult, who the club claims "is flying", goes back and kicks 1 goal against a reserves side. Even if he rucked 100% of game time he should be floating forward and hitting the scoreboard more than that! At VFL level he should be dominant in the same way Hawkins impacted the last NAB game.

For me it doesn't matter if he had 70 hit outs rucking, that is not what we want from him!
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: DJC on March 26, 2015, 04:23:54 pm
It's a real worry for me when a guy like Casboult, who the club claims "is flying", goes back and kicks 1 goal against a reserves side. Even if he rucked 100% of game time he should be floating forward and hitting the scoreboard more than that! At VFL level he should be dominant in the same way Hawkins impacted the last NAB game.

For me it doesn't matter if he had 70 hit outs rucking, that is not what we want from him!

I depends on where he was played LP.  If the MC wanted him to concentrate on his ruckwork then one goal is a reasonable return.  If he was played as a key forward, one goal is not good enough.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: cookie2 on March 26, 2015, 04:31:03 pm
@DJC

Agreed, with Kreuz doubtful for the next several weeks and with Warnock also possibly injured, Casboult will more than likely need to play ruck more often to back up Wood?
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on April 03, 2015, 02:04:00 pm
The baby Blues are playing at the4 moment:
In the 3rd quarter:
NB 4.6.30, BH 7.7.49

Apparently we had a good first term, not so good in the 2nd.

From Christian Fillipo on twitter:
Quote
Whiley looked impressive that term, with 10 disposals taking his tally to 13
This to half time.

DISPOSALS: McGuinness 15, Tutt 13, Whiley 13, Byrne 10, Ellard 10, Graham 10

Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: cookie2 on April 03, 2015, 02:06:27 pm
@Crash

Plenty to play for Crash - spots available in all areas of the seniors!
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on April 03, 2015, 02:08:21 pm
Development Results:
Northern Blues 5.8.38, Box Hill 5.3.33

Pretty low scores.
GOALS: Wild, Toman, Langwell, Stevens, Coulson.
DISPOSALS: Cattapan 32, Strachan 24, Johnston 23, McDonald 18, Haynes 15
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on April 03, 2015, 02:11:29 pm
Playing in the main game:
Walsh, Viojo-Rainbow, Buckley, Boekhorst, Fields, Watson, Holman, Whiley, Graham, Johnson, Armfield, Tutt, Casboult, Foster, Ellard, Dick, Gowers, Byrne

Rucks looking pretty thin.
At the moment, Whiley appears to be the standout of the Blues playing.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on April 03, 2015, 02:28:45 pm
3 Quarter Time
Northern 5 - 7 - 37
Box Hill 9 - 9 - 63

Not looking good, but ...
GOALS: Johnson 2, Casboult, Armfield, Foster

DISPOSALS: McGuinness 18, Whiley 17, Tutt 17, Fields 15, Graham 13
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on April 03, 2015, 02:31:23 pm
Whiley 17 touches seems promising. Shame the Blainester isn't getting more of it.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: chookaradley on April 03, 2015, 02:46:47 pm
Boekhurst getting anywhere near it??
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: spf on April 03, 2015, 03:00:24 pm
This off Twitter:

The final term begins with a McEvoy free kick and goal in the opening minute. NB 5.7.37, BH 10.9.69

DISPOSALS: McGuinness 18, Whiley 17, Tutt 17, Fields 15, Graham 13
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: spf on April 03, 2015, 03:01:57 pm
More from Twitter:

Another goal to the Hawks, we trail by 37 in the last term. NB 5.8.38, BH 11.9.75.

Tutt does well to receive, turn and dob one from just inside 50. NB 6.8.44, BH 11.9.75.

Monkhorst gathers the ball and snaps home truly, despite being in heavy congestion. @BoxHillHawks lead by 37. NB 6.8.44, BH

Graham forces the turnover in the middle, ending in Watson converting from directly in front. NB 7.8.50, BH 12.9.81
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: spf on April 03, 2015, 03:05:10 pm
Match over:

FULL TIME: Northern Blues 7.8.50 - Box Hill Hawks 12.9.81

GOALS: Johnson 2, Casboult, Armfield, Foster, Tutt, Watson

DISPOSALS: Graham 21, Tutt 21, Whiley 20, McGuinness 20, Armfield 16
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on April 03, 2015, 03:13:11 pm
Boekhurst getting anywhere near it??
From the possession count, the short answer would be "No". Then again, I am not at the game, so it is hard to tell just how much game time he had let alone how he fared.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 03, 2015, 05:03:56 pm
Whiley will probably need another game or two after an achillies...Tutt  with his extra pace will probably get a plane ticket to WA this week...
Wish Boekhorst had shown more and demanded a place in the team...
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: BluePhantom on April 03, 2015, 06:23:43 pm
Whiley will probably need another game or two after an achillies...Tutt  with his extra pace will probably get a plane ticket to WA this week...
Wish Boekhorst had shown more and demanded a place in the team...

Isn't Boekhorst from WA? if he is then we have a history of playing kids first games in front of family and friends so he will probably get a gig. ;)
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: RiverRat on April 03, 2015, 07:14:14 pm
From the possession count, the short answer would be "No". Then again, I am not at the game, so it is hard to tell just how much game time he had let alone how he fared.

I was there and the long answer is 'he didn't get near it or get hold of it often enough'

I haven't time to provide more feedback ATM but will do so later if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: ItsOurTime on April 03, 2015, 07:22:49 pm
Always interested in your input RR.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: Sexybronco on April 03, 2015, 07:25:02 pm
I was there and the long answer is 'he didn't get near it or get hold of it often enough'

I haven't time to provide more feedback ATM but will do so later if anyone is interested.

Hey RR, I always love reading your reports so if you have the time pelase do post a report!! Don't underestimate the appreciation for them on this forum.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: age on April 03, 2015, 07:31:07 pm
Todays game just typifies where our club is at.

NB had 16 listed AFL players and the Hawks had none,  yet we still managed to lose by 5 goals.

Say it all about the depth of our playing list.

I can see more pain ahead for this cub.  Going nowhere fast

 
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on April 03, 2015, 07:35:53 pm
I was there and the long answer is 'he didn't get near it or get hold of it often enough'

I haven't time to provide more feedback ATM but will do so later if anyone is interested.

Yes please!
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 03, 2015, 07:38:02 pm
Isn't Boekhorst from WA? if he is then we have a history of playing kids first games in front of family and friends so he will probably get a gig. ;)

Boekhorst has the skills to be in the best 22 but at 75kg is going find life difficult in the AFL until he adapts to the physical side of the game and can
hold his ground..not sure how he played today but in the NAB cup games he got pushed off the footy and blocked too easily, he also has problems tackling the
bigger players.
He has more nous than Clem Smith but not the appetite for the contest like Smith....you really have to question the recruiting of Boekhorst with respect to his size and style..
we are expecting him to be the main dish but in reality he is more the desert and needs to play behind some big mids like Sydney or Freo have and he can be a Lewis Jetta type.
I just hope we can fast track Cripps, Bell, Holman, Whiley to split the packs, ferret the ball out  and give him the role that suits his size and style....
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: laj on April 03, 2015, 07:40:25 pm
Todays game just typifies where our club is at.

NB had 16 listed AFL players and the Hawks had none,  yet we still managed to lose by 5 goals.

Say it all about the depth of our playing list.

I can see more pain ahead for this cub.  Going nowhere fast

Not worried about practice match results, just individuals.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: laj on April 03, 2015, 07:58:33 pm
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2015-04-03/websters-assessment-good-friday-practice-match
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: age on April 03, 2015, 08:15:02 pm
Not worried about practice match results, just individuals.

Practice match or not.  We had "16" Listed players and we could not get a win.

I would be worried by that.   Out of the 16 that played, you would think that half of them would show something.  By all accounts, not many did.

Worrying signs
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: LP on April 03, 2015, 09:02:28 pm
Casboult's a real worry, he should be smashing them from anywhere on the ground at VFL level and he is barely scoring! So much for those pre-season reports of him flying!

BTW, Box Hill had zero AFL listed players on the day!

Quote
Hawthorn held its AFL-listed players out of the match after a searching intra-squad practice match during the week.

How embarrassment! :o
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: Thryleon on April 03, 2015, 10:41:23 pm
Mcevoy wasn't the Ben Mcevoy?
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: DJC on April 03, 2015, 10:54:34 pm
Mcevoy wasn't the Ben Mcevoy?

No, not Big Boy!

The NB's report suggests that Casboult, Watson and Foster didn't get much opportunity to do their thing.  If that was the case, perhaps one or more of them could have been pushed up the ground to create their own opportunities.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: laj on April 03, 2015, 11:09:01 pm
Practice match or not.  We had "16" Listed players and we could not get a win.

I would be worried by that.   Out of the 16 that played, you would think that half of them would show something.  By all accounts, not many did.

Worrying signs
Still a practice match. They're young blokes had more incentive to have a crack. Result not important, just individuals.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: RiverRat on April 04, 2015, 12:23:05 am
Positive performances

Jason Tutt - I would have selected him ahead of Smith on Thursday - Clem isn't ready yet - Tutt is good to go

Mark Whiley - very good inside but hard to know how much was due to Levi's well directed hitouts and how much was due to his positioning and ball winning ability - looks and moves a bit like Priddis - something to work with

Ciarin Byrne - dashing defender with strong attack on ball and opponents - occasional brain fade and not as good a kick as his two compatriots but looks likely to make the grade

Blaine Johnson - didn't impress me much last year - looks rough around the edges but had a decent go today - seems to have improved - good ordinary footballer?

Dennis Armfield - typically hard working performance - nothing we haven't seen before

David Ellard - quieter than I would have expected but was not given much of an opportunity to run through the midfield - looks fitter and sharper than in recent seasons

Levi Casboult - more rucking than forward and was very effective at delivering the ball to his midfielders - Mick said he is out of form so his inability to hold marks in good conditions was probably indicative of this

Matthew Watson  :o - I have never been a fan but he showed some noticeable improvements in his movements, his acceleration and his fitness - also looks leaner - still unable to achieve anything in a pack situation and didn't set the world on fire but he appears to have found a position that suits him CHF - lots more movement from him than at FF which allowed him to be isolated on an opponent much more often and he was able to take some contested marks when the ball was kicked to his advantage - disposal was only so so - for a supposed elite kick, he is not very effective at kicking to advantage - still has lots of limitations so giving him a positive review might be more of an indictment on most of his teammates - but hey, it is one of the few times he has given me cause to hope.

Nick Graham - gathered possessions but didn't do much with them - on a par with last year's form

Not ready yet?
Blaine Boekhorst - maybe I was expecting too much but he seemed to be a bit of a straight ahead player who lacked the power to break away

Nick Holman - played in defence and was clearly focused on his defensive role - no obvious improvement from last year

Matthew Dick - didn't seem to do much but I was not sure of his role - might have been defensively effective

Tom Fields - solid unit - played as tall defender - not quite tall, strong or fast enough - tried hard but too often beaten in one-on-one contests

Dillon Viojo-Rainbow - played in defence - seems a likely type but might need a bit more time

Billy Gowers - a rookie who looks to have something - at least he knows how to find the ball

Jayden Foster - played at FF - needs time

Brad Walsh - rookie who showed little


Disappointing
Dylan Buckley  :( - not much to see here - was expecting so much more - especially since he was often the plus-one in defence
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: Juddkreuzer on April 04, 2015, 12:27:16 am
Cheers RR. Not the report we would have liked, but a factual report nonetheless.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: sandsmere on April 04, 2015, 06:59:47 am
Thanks RR.
Like the bit about Casboults ruck work. His marking form will come back.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: Baggers on April 04, 2015, 07:22:18 am
Thank you, Ye Rat O' the River.

Especially agree that Smith's fitness wasn't up to a senior gig. Silly risk when we had Tutt, Ellard or Armfield available.

What should be of some concern for us is that Box Hill had no Dawks listed players participating.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: cookie2 on April 04, 2015, 07:37:47 am
Thanks for a frank and honest report RR, as usual.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on April 04, 2015, 11:49:28 am
Positive performances

Jason Tutt - I would have selected him ahead of Smith on Thursday - Clem isn't ready yet - Tutt is good to go

Mark Whiley - very good inside but hard to know how much was due to Levi's well directed hitouts and how much was due to his positioning and ball winning ability - looks and moves a bit like Priddis - something to work with

Ciarin Byrne - dashing defender with strong attack on ball and opponents - occasional brain fade and not as good a kick as his two compatriots but looks likely to make the grade

Blaine Johnson - didn't impress me much last year - looks rough around the edges but had a decent go today - seems to have improved - good ordinary footballer?

Dennis Armfield - typically hard working performance - nothing we haven't seen before

David Ellard - quieter than I would have expected but was not given much of an opportunity to run through the midfield - looks fitter and sharper than in recent seasons

Levi Casboult - more rucking than forward and was very effective at delivering the ball to his midfielders - Mick said he is out of form so his inability to hold marks in good conditions was probably indicative of this

Matthew Watson  :o - I have never been a fan but he showed some noticeable improvements in his movements, his acceleration and his fitness - also looks leaner - still unable to achieve anything in a pack situation and didn't set the world on fire but he appears to have found a position that suits him CHF - lots more movement from him than at FF which allowed him to be isolated on an opponent much more often and he was able to take some contested marks when the ball was kicked to his advantage - disposal was only so so - for a supposed elite kick, he is not very effective at kicking to advantage - still has lots of limitations so giving him a positive review might be more of an indictment on most of his teammates - but hey, it is one of the few times he has given me cause to hope.

Nick Graham - gathered possessions but didn't do much with them - on a par with last year's form

Not ready yet?
Blaine Boekhorst - maybe I was expecting too much but he seemed to be a bit of a straight ahead player who lacked the power to break away

Nick Holman - played in defence and was clearly focused on his defensive role - no obvious improvement from last year

Matthew Dick - didn't seem to do much but I was not sure of his role - might have been defensively effective

Tom Fields - solid unit - played as tall defender - not quite tall, strong or fast enough - tried hard but too often beaten in one-on-one contests

Dillon Viojo-Rainbow - played in defence - seems a likely type but might need a bit more time

Billy Gowers - a rookie who looks to have something - at least he knows how to find the ball

Jayden Foster - played at FF - needs time

Brad Walsh - rookie who showed little


Disappointing
Dylan Buckley  :( - not much to see here - was expecting so much more - especially since he was often the plus-one in defence
Thanks, RR. Not what I want to read, but papering over the gaps is not going to improve us.

[1] Whiley appeared to run out of legs to me, following the stats. Not surprising as this is his first game after some weeks of injury. I would like to give him a senior game, but we should wait a week or 2?

[2] Where would you play Tutt? He appears to me to be a little better up the field, but we are calling out for a small forward.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: RiverRat on April 04, 2015, 11:54:40 pm
Thank you, Ye Rat O' the River.

Especially agree that Smith's fitness wasn't up to a senior gig. Silly risk when we had Tutt, Ellard or Armfield available.



My thoughts precisely. I heard afterwards that MM had planned to give him a run in the final term and that Fev presented his jumper before the game. I hope that wasn't a factor in selecting him when he was not a suitable substitute in the event of an early injury.

Are you surprised that I gave Watto a positive (albeit heavily qualified) review?
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: RiverRat on April 04, 2015, 11:59:53 pm
Thanks, RR. Not what I want to read, but papering over the gaps is not going to improve us.

[1] Whiley appeared to run out of legs to me, following the stats. Not surprising as this is his first game after some weeks of injury. I would like to give him a senior game, but we should wait a week or 2?

[2] Where would you play Tutt? He appears to me to be a little better up the field, but we are calling out for a small forward.

1. I don't think Whiley did enough to force selection ahead of Ellard and Graham but it probably depends on the role that Thomas' replacement is expected to play - especially if White is going to stay in the midfield rotation.

2. I think they have been playing Tutt as a high HF which seems to suit him well and still allows for him to scoot forward.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on April 09, 2015, 09:02:45 pm
Last practice Match this weekend, to be played at the MCG!
Northern Blues (VFL) v AFL Under 18s Academy
 Saturday, April 11 – 10.30am
 Melbourne Cricket Ground

 Northern Blues (Development) v North Ballarat City
 Saturday, Aprill 11 – 3pm
 Ikon Park, Parkville

Northern Blues Squads

 VFL: 1. Tom Wilson, 2. Bradley Walsh, 3. Ty Armitage, 4. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow, 7. Dylan Buckley, 8. Brent Bransgrove, 9. Blaine Boekhorst, 10. Timmy Totevski, 11. Tom Fields, 12. Joel Wilkinson, 15. Paul Dirago, 17. Alexander Aurrichio, 18. Jarryd Coulson, 19. Matthew Watson, 20. Nick Holman, 22. Samuel Cattapan, 24. Steve Murray, 25. Glenn Strachan, 26. Kieran McGuinness, 30. Sean Bolger, 31. Mark Whiley, 32. Nick Graham, 34. Blaine Johnson, 35. Ben Walton, 38. Jason Tutt, 41. Levi Casboult, 42. Jayden Foster, 46. David Ellard, 49. Dennis Armfield, 51. Fraser Russell, 52. Andrew Walker, 55. Matthew Dick, 61. Jack Johnston, 71. Kyle McDonald, 77. Billy Gowers, 79. Ciaran Byrne, 82. Mitchell Gleeson

The squad will be trimmed tomorrow. Certain not to play are Tutt and Casboult - named in the senior side. Ellard, Armfield and Byrne probably won't play either, being emergencies. However, they may play, depending on whether they all make the trip to Perth.
Interesting to see how Alex Aurrichio goes. Also interesting to see if Walker plays. I hope he does: he needs a run: he needs some game time to get at least some form and fitness back.

I haven't found the Academy line up as yet.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: DJC on April 09, 2015, 09:06:09 pm
Ellard, Armfield and Byrne made the flight to Perth Crash.

It will be a good opportunity for Walker to get a run under his belt against gentle opposition.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: Mantis on April 09, 2015, 09:11:27 pm
If Ellard, Armfield and Byrne are over as a chance it might be a good thing. Armfield and Byrne can run and carry, and you know you always get effort from Ellard. If only he was a little quicker and taller.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: flyboy77 on April 09, 2015, 09:16:10 pm
Ellard, Armfield and Byrne made the flight to Perth Crash.

It will be a good opportunity for Walker to get a run under his belt against gentle opposition.

and not Tutt or Levi?
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: DJC on April 09, 2015, 09:31:54 pm
and not Tutt or Levi?

Crash got those two but wasn't sure about the other three.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 10, 2015, 12:01:51 am
Nick Holman needs some good games, decent size for a mid/half back but looks very much a raw young kid when I see him
play and he will be lucky to get offered another contract unless he can get himself up the pecking order and be in the best
players more often..
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on April 10, 2015, 07:23:37 am
Nick Holman needs some good games, decent size for a mid/half back but looks very much a raw young kid when I see him
play and he will be lucky to get offered another contract unless he can get himself up the pecking order and be in the best
players more often..
He hasn't developed much yet. Hopefully he can develop.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: townsendcalling on April 11, 2015, 12:15:09 pm
Can't shake off an U/17 combined team even with a significant list of senior list Blues on show!  Been a great w/e so far!!

5 pts up at 3/4 time.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: age on April 11, 2015, 12:25:36 pm
This is a disgrace. 

Something stink at CFC.  Something is not right
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: bigblue on April 11, 2015, 12:41:48 pm
If Ellard, Armfield and Byrne are over as a chance it might be a good thing. Armfield and Byrne can run and carry, and you know you always get effort from Ellard. If only he was a little quicker and taller.

If only my aunty had a beard , she'd be my uncle.

Sorry mate, I couldnt help myself!! ;D
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: laj on April 11, 2015, 12:46:19 pm
Can't shake off an U/17 combined team even with a significant list of senior list Blues on show!  Been a great w/e so far!!

5 pts up at 3/4 time.

Probably just having a jog. Not so much about player talent, just poor attitude.

Won by 9pts. 99-90. Armfield kicked 4 and Walker played well.

DISPOSALS: Walker 29, Graham 28, Whiley 20, Boekhorst 18, Wilson 18, Buckley 15.

GOALS: Armfield 4, Buckley 2, Johnson 2, Viojo-Rainbow, Foster, Totevski, Walsh, Whiley, Fields.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on April 11, 2015, 04:30:24 pm
I'm glad of the win: we need to win and we need to win badly and get used to winning and.... You get my drift.
The triple header at QEO is not quite the same with all the player I wanted to see badly playing at the MCG. However, I'll see what I can see for mid range picks. :)

I was going to ask if Aurrichio played, but he is at Ikon Park with the 2nds and doing well (according to Twitter).
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: RiverRat on April 11, 2015, 07:14:21 pm
Just for interest, I have copied Coach Webster's comments (from the club website) about performances against the Hawks and inserted my comments from the same match.

Mark Whiley (20 disposals, four marks, two tackles)
Webster: "It was his first game back. I thought he worked hard through the midfield all day. He tried to provide with us some run and gave us a lot of grunt in and around the contests."
RR: very good inside but hard to know how much was due to Levi's well directed hitouts and how much was due to his positioning and ball winning ability - looks and moves a bit like Priddis - something to work with
Dylan Buckley (11 disposals, two marks)
Webster: "'Bucks' played down back. What we’ve been working on with Dylan is his defensive side. We know that he can provide us good run and carry off half-back, and he got one inside-50 from his 11 disposals. We’ve got to continue to keep working on his defensive side and he showed good signs in that area today."
RR: Disappointing - not much to see here - was expecting so much more - especially since he was often the plus-one in defence
Jason Tutt (21 disposals, four marks, one goal)
"Tutt ended up with 21 touches, which was really good. He kicked a goal and played as a forward and up on the wing. I thought he did some really good things."
RR: I would have selected him ahead of Smith on Thursday - Clem isn't ready yet - Tutt is good to go
Levi Casboult (nine disposals, two marks, one goal)
"He started off well like last week, but only ended up with the nine disposals and two marks. He played more as a ruckman than a tall forward. What we wanted to see from Levi was him competing in the ruck, getting around the ground and taking some marks. As a ruckman he competed well and looked dangerous at times when he went up forward. Our ball movement forward didn’t help him at times."
RR: more rucking than forward and was very effective at delivering the ball to his midfielders - Mick said he is out of form so his inability to hold marks in good conditions was probably indicative of this
Dillon Viojo-Rainbow (10 disposals, two marks)
"'Rainbow' played off half-back and a little bit on the wing. He used the ball reasonably well and hit some targets going inside 50, which set up a couple of scoring opportunities for us. We’re really trying to work on the defensive side of his game, but he really took a step forward today and each week he’s improving."
RR: played in defence - seems a likely type but might need a bit more time
Blaine Boekhorst (10 disposals, two marks)
"We played Boekhorst through the midfield and on the wing. He was finding the footy early when we were dominant. In the second half, they (Box Hill) dominated in the clearances."
RR: maybe I was expecting too much but he seemed to be a bit of a straight ahead player who lacked the power to break away
Matthew Dick (10 disposals)
"Dick played off half-back. He defended the ball and his opponent really well. He had 10 disposals and the boys were a little bit under the pump down there (in defence), but I thought he competed well in his one-on-one contests. He had a crack all day."
RR: didn't seem to do much but I was not sure of his role - might have been defensively effective
Nick Graham (21 disposals, six marks, two tackles)
"He ended up with 21 touches in the midfield. I thought he used the ball reasonably well and gave us a bit of run, which he’s really good at. He had three clearances and seven handball receives. It was a solid effort without being outstanding."
RR: gathered possessions but didn't do much with them - on a par with last year's form
Dennis Armfield (16 disposals, one goal, two tackles)
"I thought Dennis started really well, playing forward and going through the midfield and using his speed. He ended up with 16 touches and kicked a goal. We wanted him to really lock the ball inside our attacking 50 with his pressure and he did that really well at times."
RR: typically hard working performance - nothing we haven't seen before
Matthew Watson (11 disposals, six marks, one goal)
"We played Watson as a tall target for the majority of the day. He presented well, took six marks, kicked a goal and had some opportunities to kick more. He’s got to continue to keep working on his game up forward as he hasn’t been in that position for a while."
RR: I have never been a fan but he showed some noticeable improvements in his movements, his acceleration and his fitness - also looks leaner - still unable to achieve anything in a pack situation and didn't set the world on fire but he appears to have found a position that suits him CHF - lots more movement from him than at FF which allowed him to be isolated on an opponent much more often and he was able to take some contested marks when the ball was kicked to his advantage - disposal was only so so - for a supposed elite kick, he is not very effective at kicking to advantage - still has lots of limitations so giving him a positive review might be more of an indictment on most of his teammates - but hey, it is one of the few times he has given me cause to hope.
Jayden Foster (five disposals, one goal)
"He was a little bit scratchy today. It was the first game that he’s played in a very long time, having come off an injury. He got his hands to the footy a couple of times and kicked 1.2. He’ll get better each week. He’s been working pretty hard to get back."
RR: played at FF - needs time
David Ellard (14 disposals, three marks, seven tackles)
"He had 14 touches today. He was on limited game time last week but had more game time today. We played him in that forward pressure role and he pushed into the midfield as well. He tried his heart out all day, as he normally does. It was hard to be outstanding in a losing team."
RR: quieter than I would have expected but was not given much of an opportunity to run through the midfield - looks fitter and sharper than in recent seasons
Nick Holman (Eight disposals)
"Nick played off half-back and was quiet for the majority of the game. We pushed him into the middle in spurts during the last quarter, and he finished with eight disposals."
RR: played in defence and was clearly focused on his defensive role - no obvious improvement from last year
The following players were apparently not critiqued by Coach Webster
Ciarin Byrne - dashing defender with strong attack on ball and opponents - occasional brain fade and not as good a kick as his two compatriots but looks likely to make the grade
Blaine Johnson - didn't impress me much last year - looks rough around the edges but had a decent go today - seems to have improved - good ordinary footballer?
Tom Fields - solid unit - played as tall defender - not quite tall, strong or fast enough - tried hard but too often beaten in one-on-one contests
Billy Gowers - a rookie who looks to have something - at least he knows how to find the ball
Brad Walsh - rookie who showed little
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: sandsmere on April 12, 2015, 08:38:07 am
My son went to the game against the Academy boys.
Best players were Walker, Armfield ( 4 goals ), Graham.
Buckley, Whiley, Boekhorst  all went well and Rainbow did some good things too.

A couple of very good boys in the Academy side.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on April 12, 2015, 01:59:36 pm
NAB AFL ACADEMY        3.2     7.3     9.5       14.6 (90)
NORTHERN BLUES         3.2     7.8     9.11    14.15 (99)

GOALS
NAB AFL Academy: Schache 3, Ah Chee 2, Hipwood 2, Weideman 2, Keays, Tucker, Cole, Snadden, Curnow
Northern Blues: Armfield 4, Buckley 2, Johnson 2, Whiley, Totevski, Viojo-Rainbow, Walsh, Fields, Foster

BEST
NAB AFL Academy: Ah Chee, Weitering, Parish, Weideman, Hopper, Keays, Tucker, Nyuon
Northern Blues: Armfield, Walker, Graham, Whiley, Boekhorst, Buckley, Wilson

I guess this shows the difference between our list and a bunch of really talented kids. We don't have a lot going for us at the moment.

Look at the best for the Academy and it is quite a good start to the players I would like.
Ah Chee has X factor. Weitering could be #1 pick yet: he is a dominating defender. Weideman would be a nice pick up, although Collingwood would be after him very badly. However, his old man did not play enough games for them. Parish is class. Nyuon could be anything, or not. Heaps of athleticism. Big Schache looks OK as well: not many 197 cm guys play like him on our list.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: Professer E on April 12, 2015, 06:43:40 pm
Weitering could be the best key defender since Swan and he'd get hung out to dry by our slack arse midfield.... we have to fix the midfield before fixing the spine... but the both need fixing.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: chookaradley on April 12, 2015, 06:57:42 pm
I've always been critical of the fact that our senior listed players cannot regularly dominate games at the lower level. Follow NB's pretty closely and would love to read about Watson kicking 8. Buckley dominating etc etc
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: Jofo on April 12, 2015, 08:26:52 pm
I've always been critical of the fact that our senior listed players cannot regularly dominate games at the lower level. Follow NB's pretty closely and would love to read about Watson kicking 8. Buckley dominating etc etc

Youre right, it just doesn't happen. We have a very ordinary list and I can't recall any dominant performances in the past few years. In the past 2 weeks the Northern Blues lost to Box Hill without any senior Hawks list players playing and this week only just beat an U17 rep side. Weak. Very weak.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: laj on April 12, 2015, 09:13:32 pm
I've always been critical of the fact that our senior listed players cannot regularly dominate games at the lower level. Follow NB's pretty closely and would love to read about Watson kicking 8. Buckley dominating etc etc

A couple that play better in the seniors than the NBs. Why, I don't know but Watson always has.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: Baggers on April 13, 2015, 10:02:48 am
I've always been critical of the fact that our senior listed players cannot regularly dominate games at the lower level. Follow NB's pretty closely and would love to read about Watson kicking 8. Buckley dominating etc etc

This has certainly been the case since the NBs lost David Teague as their Senior Coach. Under his tenure you often saw senior listed blokes tearing it up.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: ItsOurTime on April 13, 2015, 10:31:32 am
How we let him go to Adelaide while we have Green running our forward line is beyond me.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 13, 2015, 01:24:14 pm
This has certainly been the case since the NBs lost David Teague as their Senior Coach. Under his tenure you often saw senior listed blokes tearing it up.

x2..DT was a great NB's coach....players loved him and he was very good one on one, seem to have the balance of teaching, development and coaching right.

Surely we can do better than Webster......never heard him talk anything but general terms to the playing group...
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on April 13, 2015, 01:32:46 pm
I don't know how he goes as a developer, but he doesn't do much for me as NB coach. He doesn't appear to have a lot of passion, nor have I heard anything that suggests strategic or tactical brilliance.
However, none of our development coaches appear to be doing a great job of developing our list. Nor do I see the sort of passion in the that I hope to see.
I did like Teague as a coach.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: Baggers on April 13, 2015, 05:19:47 pm
I don't know how he goes as a developer, but he doesn't do much for me as NB coach. He doesn't appear to have a lot of passion, nor have I heard anything that suggests strategic or tactical brilliance.
However, none of our development coaches appear to be doing a great job of developing our list. Nor do I see the sort of passion in the that I hope to see.
I did like Teague as a coach.

Having listened to a number of our assistants when addressing the NBs at qtr and 3 qtr time over very recent years, especially Webster, you couldn't fault them in terms of 'saying all the right things' but successful coaching/development/leadership people are first and foremost brilliant at 'connecting' with the players. Teague did this and the players really responded. And you can't teach that. Some people are naturally engaging with their communication skills/style.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: RiverRat on April 15, 2015, 12:14:19 am
This has certainly been the case since the NBs lost David Teague as their Senior Coach. Under his tenure you often saw senior listed blokes tearing it up.

You would also see senior listed players in the VFL reserves until they earned a place in the seniors. This allowed them more game time in positions for which they were being developed and it meant that the senior team was generally better because it was selected on performance and the other players benefited from playing in the best possible team. DT regularly got better results.
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: LP on April 15, 2015, 08:13:42 am
x2..DT was a great NB's coach....players loved him and he was very good one on one, seem to have the balance of teaching, development and coaching right.

Surely we can do better than Webster......never heard him talk anything but general terms to the playing group...

Teague was the last coach, reserves or senior, that we saw any player development under!
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: crashlander on April 15, 2015, 01:26:09 pm
You would also see senior listed players in the VFL reserves until they earned a place in the seniors. This allowed them more game time in positions for which they were being developed and it meant that the senior team was generally better because it was selected on performance and the other players benefited from playing in the best possible team. DT regularly got better results.
I agree,
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: LP on April 15, 2015, 01:59:51 pm
You would also see senior listed players in the VFL reserves until they earned a place in the seniors. This allowed them more game time in positions for which they were being developed and it meant that the senior team was generally better because it was selected on performance and the other players benefited from playing in the best possible team. DT regularly got better results.

They don't go back and tear it up anymore, it just never happens.

Last weekend we saw a bunch of U18s push experienced AFL players to within a couple of goals, not one of them dominated!

It says something about our attitude, it says something about our mindset and it says something about our coaches!
Title: Re: Northern Blues Practice Matches 2015
Post by: cookie2 on April 15, 2015, 02:06:09 pm
Is the NBs a training ground for "going through the motions"? I haven't seen much of them yet this year but it certainly seems that way from reports.