The 2nds play this week at Port Melbourne at 13:00.
It is very nice to have the team playing again.
Apparently the game will be streamed, as there is no crows allowed.
Carlton vs Port Melb (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiGnk99RkHg)
Apparently the game will be streamed, as there is no crows allowed.
Carlton vs Port Melb (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiGnk99RkHg)
It's usually seagulls that are a problem at Port Melb!
Backs: Cooper Stephens Ryley Stoddart Brodie Kemp
Half-backs: Jordan Boyd Stefan Radovanovic Sam Ramsay
Centreline: Matt Cottrell Lochie O'Brien Jack Newnes
Half-forwards: Josh Honey Toby Wooller Corey Durdin
Forwards: Ben Crocker Levi Casboult Marc Murphy
Followers: Alex Mirkov Sam Petrevski-Seton Jack Carroll
Interchange: James Parsons Tom North Tom Williamson Cody Hirst
Emergency: Ed Delaney Matt Shannon Aaron Gundry Ben Caluzzi
This team lacks height still, but at least the forward line now has a marking target or two.
The defence is looking very short.
On paper, this looks like pretty good team, but there are a few guys here who really do need to start playing nearer to their potential instead of how they are going.
Backs: Cooper Stephens Ryley Stoddart Brodie Kemp
Half-backs: Jordan Boyd Stefan Radovanovic Sam Ramsay
Centreline: Matt Cottrell Lochie O'Brien Jack Newnes
Half-forwards: Josh Honey Toby Wooller Corey Durdin
Forwards: Ben Crocker Levi Casboult Marc Murphy
Followers: Alex Mirkov Sam Petrevski-Seton Jack Carroll
Interchange: James Parsons Tom North Tom Williamson Cody Hirst
Emergency: Ed Delaney Matt Shannon Aaron Gundry Ben Caluzzi
This team lacks height still, but at least the forward line now has a marking target or two.
The defence is looking very short.
On paper, this looks like pretty good team, but there are a few guys here who really do need to start playing nearer to their potential instead of how they are going.
If that team cant win a VFL game we have problems.
If that team cant win a VFL game we have problems.
Tom Williamson nominally named on the bench....fallen a fair way from his 1st year when he showed plenty.
Agree...that team should flog Port given the number of players with senior experience, hope Boyd repays the faith and can give us something. SPS, Levi, LOB and Murphy looking down the hill with the finish line in sight...
Tom Williamson nominally named on the bench....fallen a fair way from his 1st year when he showed plenty.
Agree...that team should flog Port given the number of players with senior experience, hope Boyd repays the faith and can give us something. SPS, Levi, LOB and Murphy looking down the hill with the finish line in sight...
Yep, will be watching Boyd with a lot of interest.
Backs: Cooper Stephens Ryley Stoddart Brodie Kemp
Half-backs: Jordan Boyd Stefan Radovanovic Sam Ramsay
Centreline: Matt Cottrell Lochie O'Brien Jack Newnes
Half-forwards: Josh Honey Toby Wooller Corey Durdin
Forwards: Ben Crocker Levi Casboult Marc Murphy
Followers: Alex Mirkov Sam Petrevski-Seton Jack Carroll
Interchange: James Parsons Tom North Tom Williamson Cody Hirst
Emergency: Ed Delaney Matt Shannon Aaron Gundry Ben Caluzzi
This team lacks height still, but at least the forward line now has a marking target or two.
The defence is looking very short.
On paper, this looks like pretty good team, but there are a few guys here who really do need to start playing nearer to their potential instead of how they are going.
Why are we playing Boyd on a HBF.
If we planned to play him there, why did we draft him at all?!
We must play him on a wing!
Cottrell can play HB. Newnes can play HB. Let Boyd and LOB play on the wing. THAT is where we need them to play in the 1's, let them learn how to play there in the 2's. Thats the point of the 2's isn't it?
Pat Kerr
Have always thought we should have hung on to Pat Kerr. From reports he played some v. good reserves games & probably would have played more AFL other than injury. More potential than Finbar and others perhaps, but those who watched his games would know.
Anyway his chance to show Carlton recruiters his worth.
Cheers Ab
Port Melbourne. TEAM:
B: 32. P Lewis-Smith 34. K Reid 6. F Roberts
HB: 37. H Hooper 12. D Koenen 30. E Phillips
C: 13. C Wagner 10. M Arnot 3. E Templeton (VICE-CAPTAIN)
HF: 5. I Conway 15. P Kerr 26. J Gasper
F: 19. A Anastasio 17. M Signorello 29. C Walker
Rucks: 36. J Hotchkin 21. B Jolley 4. T O’Sullivan (CAPTAIN)
Inter: 14. N Holmes 43. T O’Sullivan 31. N Stathopoulos
18. M Wooffindin
Emg: 1. M Rivett 23. H Hunt 28. J May
20. D Watson
Pat Kerr
Have always thought we should have hung on to Pat Kerr. From reports he played some v. good reserves games & probably would have played more AFL other than injury. More potential than Finbar and others perhaps, but those who watched his games would know.
Anyway his chance to show Carlton recruiters his worth.
Cheers Ab
I always got the impression that he'd make a good VFL player, but not quite up to AFL standard.
Wasn't quite tall enough, or fast enough, or agile enough to really stand out.
Shifter Sheahan always says that if you wanna make it in the AFL you have to be elite at something. Be that speed, agility, marking, kicking, height(!) anything. Not sure what that would be with Kerr.
Apparently the game will be streamed, as there is no crows allowed.
Carlton vs Port Melb (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiGnk99RkHg)
Thanks Crash. Will be watching with interest.
Any idea what number Boyd will be wearing?
Website says his AFL number is 37, but based on previous games I've seen he'll stand out in our squad, look for the guy who can kick 60m and hit a target!
Website says his AFL number is 37, but based on previous games I've seen he'll stand out in our squad, look for the guy who can kick 60m and hit a target!
Ok that was with the Bulldogs, He is now playing with us so will he be dragged down to our level ::) ::)
Is that Mirkov that just went down with what like a knee injury????
Did not look good.
Is that Mirkov that just went down with what like a knee injury????
Did not look good.
Yes it was
For those having trouble finding the stream here is the link.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/960129/vfl-round-10-live-stream
Correct link now up.
Quarter Time:
Port 5 3 33 Carl 3 6 24
Goals: Crocker, Parsons, Cottrell
Quarter time and we're down by 9 points to a team that's only won 1 game
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Has anyone seen Kemp? Have not spotted him as yet.
Has anyone seen Kemp? Have not spotted him as yet.
I've not seen him either, but the AFL website shows him having 1 handball. Is he injured ?
Looks like we've found ourselves a good, solid VFL footballer in LoB. What a colossal screw up. Add LOB, Dow, SPS etc. to the Troy Menzels, Matthew Watsons, Kane Lucas' etc. of this world. The only benefit to finishing bottom is that it gives you first dibs on the best talent in the land. If you can't get that right, and you have way too many left withering on the vine who don't make it, finishing bottom is a complete waste of time.
Bet it is the first time Levi has done a smother like that.
Why is there no sound?
Why is there no sound?
I was wondering the same. It's eerie.
I was wondering the same. It's eerie.
I thought it was me but I tried on 2 devices and its the same.
I've not seen him either, but the AFL website shows him having 1 handball. Is he injured ?
Looks like we've found ourselves a good, solid VFL footballer in LoB. What a colossal screw up. Add LOB, Dow, SPS etc. to the Troy Menzels, Matthew Watsons, Kane Lucas' etc. of this world. The only benefit to finishing bottom is that it gives you first dibs on the best talent in the land. If you can't get that right, and you have way too many left withering on the vine who don't make it, finishing bottom is a complete waste of time.
Dow was used so poorly early in his career. did him no good. Straight into the thick of it rather than being allowed to develop in lesser roles. There was 3 in that draft that were seen clearly the best. If we didn't take Dow at 3, whoever had pick 4 would've snapped him up. Poorly developed. Can say the same for others too. LOB was the only bad pick, the other 2 were highly regarded but we developed them poorly. SPS is no HBF.
From previous eras, Menzel got Carltonised. Looked a terrific player, all class, for a while then got lazier and lazier until trade by us then delisted by the Crows. A waste. Geelong wanted him bad. Probably dodged a bullet. Watson and Lucas were terrible picks. We were about to pick Talia until Lucas slipped. What a stuff up.
I was wondering the same. It's eerie.
Using the Port Melbourne feed. Carlton one isn't working.
Gees we play a bruise free brand of footy, awful.
Using the Port Melbourne feed. Carlton one isn't working.
Thanks.
Gees we play a bruise free brand of footy, awful.
Been that way for years and the recruiting is the issue....
Half Time:
Port 7 4 46 Carl 4 8 32
Goals: Crocker, Parsons 2, Cottrell
I've not seen him either, but the AFL website shows him having 1 handball. Is he injured ?
Looks like we've found ourselves a good, solid VFL footballer in LoB. What a colossal screw up. Add LOB, Dow, SPS etc. to the Troy Menzels, Matthew Watsons, Kane Lucas' etc. of this world. The only benefit to finishing bottom is that it gives you first dibs on the best talent in the land. If you can't get that right, and you have way too many left withering on the vine who don't make it, finishing bottom is a complete waste of time.
I have seen him since. Must be playing of the bench.
Using the Port Melbourne feed. Carlton one isn't working.
What is the link please?
Found it. Sounds as if there is sound on this feed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAUGSm8n2Bw
like watching the seniors our forward line is crowded and port just run it out to there open space for there forwards to move and connect. Wat is wrong with this club why are we still playing this crap game plan in reserves as well . JOKE
like watching the seniors our forward line is crowded and port just run it out to there open space for there forwards to move and connect. Wat is wrong with this club why are we still playing this crap game plan in reserves as well . JOKE
The first few weeks we actually appeared to have a plan. What happened? Don't ask me.
3 quick goals in the 3rd and we are back in it
PM 53 Us 51
Carroll is our best (albeit a way off AFL), which is an indictment on SPS, Murphy & LOB
Kemp’s miles off AFL, which is probably understandable
Is number 40 the new bulldogs guy?
Honey needs to do more
Overall very disappointing so far
Our 1s and 2s are coach killers, consistent if nothing else.
Is there any forking danger our forking blokes can forking work to the forking front position. Forrrrrkk!!!
Three Quarter Time:
Port 9 6 60 Carl 8 9 57
Goals: Crocker 2, Parsons 2, Honey 2, Cottrell, Wooler
Carroll is our best (albeit a way off AFL), which is an indictment on SPS, Murphy & LOB
Kemp’s miles off AFL, which is probably understandable
Is number 40 the new bulldogs guy?
Honey needs to do more
Overall very disappointing so far
Boyd is # 42
Glad we're really developing our young gun midfield prospect Kemp by playing him at full back on Patty Kerr.
Fcking madness.
Glad we're really developing our young gun midfield prospect Kemp by playing him at full back on Patty Kerr.
Fcking madness.
Patty Kerr should be playing for the other side. Let him go too early.
Levi is having a very good game. Had about 20 touches.
Handy lead 82 68 now deep into the 4th
We're getting a lead, watch the foot go off the gas.
Levi is having a very good game. Had about 20 touches.
Not in the 2nd, three touches gave away three frees.
Levi is having a very good game. Had about 20 touches.
Been ok Levi but the opposition is very no name , at least Levi knows what he is doing unlike most of our blokes.
Newbie Boyd looks very Joe average VFL material and Crocker to me is still the standout player in our VFL team.
LOB and SPS have flashed in and out and Murphy has looked very disinterested and been tagged all game.
Not much to get excited to be honest..
Been ok Levi but the opposition is very no name , at least Levi knows what he is doing unlike most of our blokes.
Newbie Boyd looks very Joe average VFL material and Crocker to me is still the standout player in our VFL team.
LOB and SPS have flashed in and out and Murphy has looked very disinterested and been tagged all game.
Not much to get excited to be honest..
Levi is playing good footy around the ground. As for the others, sadly they seem to be happy just to do enough instead of working hard to kick the crap out of them.
Ugly win but a win nonetheless.
Full Time:
Port 10 8 68 Carl 12 11 83
Goals: Crocker 3, Honey 3, Parsons 2, Cottrell 2, Wooler, Casbolt
Crocker won us the game IMO and to me its mystifying how he was ignored in the midseason draft.
Ugly win but a win nonetheless.
The ol' just did enough. Weren't exactly putting it all out there unfortunately.
Crocker won us the game IMO and to me its mystifying how he was ignored in the midseason draft.
Fitness?
Would appear that Murphy and sps might not any longer get a promotion. LOB certainly won't.
Don't think I care either.
Would appear that Murphy and sps might not any longer get a promotion. LOB certainly won't.
Don't think I care either.
Murphy might do a bit of medical subbing to get to 300.
The ol' just did enough. Weren't exactly putting it all out there unfortunately.
I will take an ugly win as opposed to an ugly loos. We see enough of those in the AFL.
Confirmed that Mirkov has a knee injury so fingers crossed for him that it is not an ACL, although the way he went down and did not get up and was in a lot of pain does not bode well for him with our luck with injuries at the club.
Been watching the one sided crap at Metricon on one computer, VFL on this computer and the races on ch.78. I'm just an all round sportsman....lol.
Been ok Levi but the opposition is very no name , at least Levi knows what he is doing unlike most of our blokes.
Newbie Boyd looks very Joe average VFL material and Crocker to me is still the standout player in our VFL team.
LOB and SPS have flashed in and out and Murphy has looked very disinterested and been tagged all game.
Not much to get excited to be honest..
Agreed. Carroll and Honey look handy, but that’s about where it ends
No matter what the VFL coach or the CFC PR machine says after the game, all of Boyd, Murphy, Cottrell, Williamson, SPS, LOB, Kemp were average at best and it’s not great when 7 listed Carlton players struggle to cut the mustard in the seconds.
I will take an ugly win as opposed to an ugly loos. We see enough of those in the AFL.
Confirmed that Mirkov has a knee injury so fingers crossed for him that it is not an ACL, although the way he went down and did not get up and was in a lot of pain does not bode well for him with our luck with injuries at the club.
I shouldn't complain. It's not as if we see the "W" much.
Be just our luck with Mirkov.
Carroll is our best (albeit a way off AFL), which is an indictment on SPS, Murphy & LOB
Kemp’s miles off AFL, which is probably understandable
Is number 40 the new bulldogs guy?
Honey needs to do more
Overall very disappointing so far
We definitely must have been watching different games... different leagues?
Carroll was just about BOG
Fitness?
Good VFL player, but failed at AFL level twice
Recruiters may have formed the view that he can’t make the next step
Agreed. Carroll and Honey look handy, but that’s about where it ends
No matter what the VFL coach or the CFC PR machine says after the game, all of Boyd, Murphy, Cottrell, Williamson, SPS, LOB, Kemp were average at best and it’s not great when 7 listed Carlton players struggle to cut the mustard in the seconds.
Kemp is understandable, most of the other were happy to run around at half pace. You'd think there'd be some keenness to get back in the side. Levi was very good with 21 touches (that ever happened before anywhere?) as were Carroll and Honey.
We definitely must have been watching different games... different leagues?
Carroll was just about BOG
That post was at half time
Agree with you on Carroll (that’s why I said he was our best), but he really shouldn’t be with SPS, Murphy, LOb running around
Good VFL player, but failed at AFL level twice
Recruiters may have formed the view that he can’t make the next step
Thats probably right but in terms of know how and impact he was miles ahead of anyone on the ground today apart from Levi who did well in the ruck and around the ground as Jim suggested.
Carroll was good but I felt when Crocker touched the ball we looked like scoring and apart from his goals he also created a few for others as well. Not sure what the fascination with Boyd was in the mid deason draft?
They seemed to run it out of their defense way too easily. Especially in the first half. That was g r a d ually... rectified allowing our boys to regain control. Last quarter played as the other 3 should have been played. Our AFL players stood up q4. Although once again didn't dominate/control/assert across 4q's!
Hope Mircov injury is not serious and that our staff can manage his full recovery 🙄
Kemp had flashes. I liked his pressure and that of Durdin. Honey looked dangerous around goal. Carroll's clearance work was pleasing given his limited games. Williamson improved as the game went on, but gee, what's happened to his development?
Thats probably right but in terms of know how and impact he was miles ahead of anyone on the ground today apart from Levi who did well in the ruck and around the ground as Jim suggested.
Carroll was good but I felt when Crocker touched the ball we looked like scoring and apart from his goals he also created a few for others as well. Not sure what the fascination with Boyd was in the mid season draft?
Hopefully Boyd being suddenly thrusted in with new teammates just threw him off.
Just watched the last quarter and a half of today's match. You can be glass half full or glass half empty. I thought SPS, Casboult, Honey, Cottrell, Kemp and Carroll were good, Williamson, Murphy, Durdin and Boyd were ok, didn't see much of Ramsay, Mirkov went down injured and O'Brien just didn't get enough of the ball. Watching Murphy today I think his problem is that he has never been a marking player and now that he has lost a bit of zip he can't get to the spaces he wants to get to. O'Brien is good with ball in hand but he just doesn't get it enough. If you are choosing a wingman then you are choosing Cottrell ahead of O'Brien. Kemp Carroll and Honey are all players I would like to see in the firsts sometime this year and Kemp would definitely give our defence a bit more size. Casboult is clearly too good for this level of football.
I thought we should have gone harder for a bigger win but they haven't played for three weeks and they did lose Mirkov in the first quarter. I was happy with our young guys, except for O'Brien, and I thought Levi and Murphy showed good leadership. All in all it was a good result.
Murphy might do a bit of medical subbing to get to 300.
He's hardly doing anything to warrant it.
He's hardly doing anything to warrant it.
It's a cheap way of getting him to 300.
All of Boyd, Murphy, Cottrell, Williamson, SPS, LOB, Kemp were average at best.
Harsh on Kemp!!!! The fact that he’s survived a second match and getting some game time is a real positive. Don’t expect too much until 22. Just let him develop!
Just watched the last quarter and a half of today's match. You can be glass half full or glass half empty. I thought SPS, Casboult, Honey, Cottrell, Kemp and Carroll were good, Williamson, Murphy, Durdin and Boyd were ok, didn't see much of Ramsay, Mirkov went down injured and O'Brien just didn't get enough of the ball. Watching Murphy today I think his problem is that he has never been a marking player and now that he has lost a bit of zip he can't get to the spaces he wants to get to. O'Brien is good with ball in hand but he just doesn't get it enough. If you are choosing a wingman then you are choosing Cottrell ahead of O'Brien. Kemp Carroll and Honey are all players I would like to see in the firsts sometime this year and Kemp would definitely give our defence a bit more size. Casboult is clearly too good for this level of football.
I thought we should have gone harder for a bigger win but they haven't played for three weeks and they did lose Mirkov in the first quarter. I was happy with our young guys, except for O'Brien, and I thought Levi and Murphy showed good leadership. All in all it was a good result.
Ramsay not in Sydney?
Our firsts team supposedly has fitness issues, can't run out games, and yet we have one bloke, LoB, who has elite fitness, and can run all day. Then take into account injuries. How crap / out of favour can this guy be to not be able to get a game under such circumstances ? And Matt Kennedy is another former 1st rounder who appears to be on the first bus outta PP.
I thought LOB was ok. Use of the ball is a clear level above others. If I had to promote either him or Cotterel out of today's match I would go with LOB.
Maybe his future is a Daniel Rich type. Being fed by his teammates coming off half back with his good ball use.
Murphy was a long way from dominant.
Carroll was the big news out of today though. Back to his preseason form.
I thought LOB was ok. Use of the ball is a clear level above others. If I had to promote either him or Cotterel out of today's match I would go with LOB.
Maybe his future is a Daniel Rich type. Being fed by his teammates coming off half back with his good ball use.
My comments were about the club's perceptions of him, rather than mine. He just can't seem to crack a game, no matter what the circumstances.
Carroll was good but I felt when Crocker touched the ball we looked like scoring and apart from his goals he also created a few for others as well. Not sure what the fascination with Boyd was in the mid deason draft?
I was obviously a big wrap for Crocker....things happen with him. Would've been my pick instead of Boyd thats for sure.
Having said that, Boyds kicking skills are the reason why he was picked up....and thats something we also need.
Crocker looks AFL ready.
Boyd 'could' be AFL ready. He could be one of those players that plays better in the 1's than the 2's. I'd make sure we give him a go before the end of the year.
I thought LOB was ok. Use of the ball is a clear level above others. If I had to promote either him or Cotterel out of today's match I would go with LOB.
Maybe his future is a Daniel Rich type. Being fed by his teammates coming off half back with his good ball use.
Missed a few targets I thought and his kicking isnt at the same level as Rich, plus can we carry another defender who doesnt play any defense on his man. We already have Saad, Williams and Docherty wanting that Houli/Baker rebound type role.
Reckon like the Tigers you can get away with two of those types only....
I was obviously a big wrap for Crocker....things happen with him. Would've been my pick instead of Boyd thats for sure.
Having said that, Boyds kicking skills are the reason why he was picked up....and thats something we also need.
Crocker looks AFL ready.
Boyd 'could' be AFL ready. He could be one of those players that plays better in the 1's than the 2's. I'd make sure we give him a go before the end of the year.
Agree.....Crocker would make us better and more dangerous up forward, its not just about his marking or smarts either he isnt slow and motored away from an opponent today and gave Honey a cheapie goal.
I'm not down on Boyd and he has some qualities we need but Crocker could walk in and impact while I think Boyd is that type of player who would be a handy player in a good team.
Brodie Kemp - quieter game than last but another step forward
Jordan Boyd - not the messiah but showed he has tools that might hold him in good stead
Matt Cottrell - honest but limited
Lochie O'Brien - doesn't enthuse me
Josh Honey - doesn't do a lot but does impactful things - trial him in the 1s
Corey Durdin - working into it
Levi Casboult - best he has moved all year - or was that just the slower pace of 2s football? If body working he should be backing up TDK in the 1s and Pittonet should be in the 2s
Marc Murphy - doesn't seem to have the mobility or the urgency to justify getting back to the 1s
Alex Mirkov - hopefully not a bad knee - feel for the kid
Sam Petrevski-Seton - did some nice things, did some slack things, good last qtr
Jack Carroll - our best I thought and hope he gets a run before seasons end but probably not yet
Tom Williamson - solid but should be doing more
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Lochie O'Brien - doesn't enthuse me...............................
The chances of him being here next year are just about zero. Another one bites the dust. Our churn rate for 1st rounders must be in the record breaking category.
LOB the slob ....
The chances of him being here next year are just about zero. Another one bites the dust. Our churn rate for 1st rounders must be in the record breaking category.
Surprised recruiters to be taken at 10... and now we know why. Serviceable Magoos player.
Port Melbourne 4.3-27 7.4-46 9.6-60 10.8-68
Carlton 3.6-24 4.8-32 8.9-57 12.11-83
8 goals to 3 after half time.
CARLTON
Goal Kickers: J. Honey 3, B. Crocker 3, J. Parsons 2, M. Cottrell 2, L. Casboult, T. Wooller
Best Players: L. Casboult, B. Crocker, M. Murphy, S. Petrevski-Seton, T. North, J. Carroll
Murphy did get 26 possessions.
Levi must have impressed.
Goal Kickers: A. Anastasio 2, P. Kerr 2, E. Templeton 2, M. Signorello, I. Conway, P. Lewis-Smith, K. Reid
Best Players: E. Templeton, C. Wagner, H. Hooper, N. Holmes, M. Wooffindin, P. Lewis-Smith
Kemp couldn't have been too bad. He held Paddy Kerr to 2 goals.
Port Melbourne 4.3-27 7.4-46 9.6-60 10.8-68
Carlton 3.6-24 4.8-32 8.9-57 12.11-83
8 goals to 3 after half time.
CARLTON
Goal Kickers: J. Honey 3, B. Crocker 3, J. Parsons 2, M. Cottrell 2, L. Casboult, T. Wooller
Best Players: L. Casboult, B. Crocker, M. Murphy, S. Petrevski-Seton, T. North, J. Carroll
Murphy did get 26 possessions.
Levi must have impressed.
Goal Kickers: A. Anastasio 2, P. Kerr 2, E. Templeton 2, M. Signorello, I. Conway, P. Lewis-Smith, K. Reid
Best Players: E. Templeton, C. Wagner, H. Hooper, N. Holmes, M. Wooffindin, P. Lewis-Smith
Kemp couldn't have been too bad. He held Paddy Kerr to 2 goals.
Thought Murphy was average......same with SPS......Levi, Crocker and Carroll were our best IMHO.
Thought Murphy was average......same with SPS......Levi, Crocker and Carroll were our best IMHO.
Murphy didn't do anywhere near enough but he did much more than Jack Martin has been doing in the seniors.
SPS started off less than average but he showed more effort and intensity in the final quarter than he has since he cut off his rat's tail - probably too much to hope that he plays a full game with that endeavour.
Levi was the one who showed the effort to demand consideration for senior selection next week.
Carroll showed lots of poise and skill but he also showed something that too many of our midfielders display - a lack of willingness to seriously chase an opponent - happened a couple of times - hope its not a habit
I am less impressed with Crocker and am not disappointed that we didn't pick him up - he has good hands and can take a clean mark if the ball is well delivered but that doesn't happen often enough with our senior team - just a good VFL player from my perspective
Saw a snippet of Mirkov's injury, looks like a broken ankle.
Saw a snippet of Mirkov's injury, looks like a broken ankle.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/19/veteran-blue-shines-mid-season-draft-recruit-injured-in-vfl-win/
The news wasn’t as good for Markov, with the ruckman finishing the game with ice on his knee after going down with the injury in the opening term.
You must go to the same optometrist as Razor Ray. ;)
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/19/veteran-blue-shines-mid-season-draft-recruit-injured-in-vfl-win/You must go to the same optometrist as Razor Ray. ;)
https://giant.gfycat.com/UnkemptDishonestFlamingo.mp4
Surprised recruiters to be taken at 10... and now we know why. Serviceable Magoos player.
He was considered a top 20 pick. Many mock drafts had him going to Sydney at 14. The pick clearly hasn't worked, but it wasn't that much of a surprise at the time.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/11/20/brett-andersons-2017-afl-mock-draft/
https://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/291379/2017-draft-guns-lochie-obrien
https://giant.gfycat.com/UnkemptDishonestFlamingo.mp4
I can see why you think its an ankle from that angle.
But the report of ice on knee??
FWIW, based on that clip, i reckon it could be a PCL. The old ruckman injury. He may have had the damage done before he even hit the ground.
I hope Honey and Carroll get a game before Murphy and Cotterel.
Jack Martin doesn't look fit, Newnes is not good enough and Parks is injured. There are spots available. Fisher needs to play midfield.
Teague is not good at picking the team... I've been saying it for a while.
FWIW, based on that clip, i reckon it could be a PCL. The old ruckman injury. He may have had the damage done before he even hit the ground.
Id like to know how much ‘ruck craft work’ has gone into a volleyballer whose rucking experience is all of a oouple of games against school kids and 2 part VFL games. He’s not a natural footballer and definitely not a natural ruckman…… hence a ruck contest that leaves him exposed and there you have it!!!
Reorientating Samo to the midfield in the 2's ??
Don't tell me we're going down the 'play them in their position' track now 😳 They constantly talk publicly about playing to their strengths, yet so many are doing that in a new position. Go figure.
Id like to know how much ‘ruck craft work’ has gone into a volleyballer whose rucking experience is all of a oouple of games against school kids and 2 part VFL games. He’s not a natural footballer and definitely not a natural ruckman…… hence a ruck contest that leaves him exposed and there you have it!!!
Its a fair point. I'm not sure how much ruck craft our VFL team does. Kreuzer would have of had about 1 week with him since he was drafted to turn him into a ruck. Clearly not enough time.
Its a fair point. I'm not sure how much ruck craft our VFL team does. Kreuzer would have of had about 1 week with him since he was drafted to turn him into a ruck. Clearly not enough time.
According to the Mirkov's interview after he was drafted, Kruzer has been working and mentoring him for a few weeks before he got drafted.
So it is possible that Kruzer may of had a say in the likely potential of Mirkov which may of lead to him been drafted by us.
The link below is his welcome interview after he was drafted.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/951224/maybe-it-could-happen-mirkov-s-journey-to-being-drafted?videoId=951224&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1622698702001
Carlton Reserves v Port Melbourne | Review
https://youtu.be/D7g-39rnlH4
Interesting reading comments here and what the reviewer Paul Sebastiani thought. He also called the game.
First of all, this is garbage:
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/962357/casboult-charged-by-vfl-mrp
Secondly, Paul Sebastiani's review of the game is spot on. I particularly agreed with his observation that Samo showed a "hunger and desire for the contest." Clearly, Paul understands that reading the play and not over-committing is not "short steps"!
Re: Samo's 2's performance
O'Keefe spoke about Samo's role as a mid-fwd over the past month.
Is this speak for we mucked up playing him down back? Now we're scrambling to bring him back to his right position in the midfield.
Do you think rotating him with Murph is similar attempt to put players in their rightful positions?
Maybe the coaches are finally taking on CSC advice😉
Murphy getting plenty of handball recieves ;)
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/962656/vfl-r10-casboult-shows-his-strength?videoId=962656&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1624346015001
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/962656/vfl-r10-casboult-shows-his-strength?videoId=962656&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1624346015001
Two things from that vision. Levi looked to be moving better than I have seen him move all year and correct me if I'm wrong but he didn't have any tape on his knee? Hasn't it been taped up all year before this game? Are the two related? Shame he got rubbed out as he probably would've been beck in the 1's
Port Melbourne 4.3-27 7.4-46 9.6-60 10.8-68
Carlton 3.6-24 4.8-32 8.9-57 12.11-83
8 goals to 3 after half time.
CARLTON
Goal Kickers: J. Honey 3, B. Crocker 3, J. Parsons 2, M. Cottrell 2, L. Casboult, T. Wooller
Best Players: L. Casboult, B. Crocker, M. Murphy, S. Petrevski-Seton, T. North, J. Carroll
Murphy did get 26 possessions.
Levi must have impressed.
Goal Kickers: A. Anastasio 2, P. Kerr 2, E. Templeton 2, M. Signorello, I. Conway, P. Lewis-Smith, K. Reid
Best Players: E. Templeton, C. Wagner, H. Hooper, N. Holmes, M. Wooffindin, P. Lewis-Smith
Kemp couldn't have been too bad. He held Paddy Kerr to 2 goals.
Levi was outstanding. A couple more good games like that in the twos then bring him back. If he's confident he plays well, when he's not he's terrible. No in-between. No bringing him back early, wait until he is confident.
Levi was outstanding. A couple more good games like that in the twos then bring him back. If he's confident he plays well, when he's not he's terrible. No in-between. No bringing him back early, wait until he is confident.
Wow! With the utmost respect, your definition of outstanding is certainly different to mine Jim.
Two things from that vision. Levi looked to be moving better than I have seen him move all year and correct me if I'm wrong but he didn't have any tape on his knee? Hasn't it been taped up all year before this game? Are the two related? Shame he got rubbed out as he probably would've been beck in the 1's
Levi was moving as well as I have ever seen him and did some great work. His goal kicking let him down and he should have had three. Have a look at the game highlights.
I only saw 10 minutes and Levi was prominent.
I only saw 10 minutes and Levi was prominent.
He can;t play this week because he was suspended in the VFL but....
Who would he play instead of? I don't think we can fit him in.
He can;t play this week because he was suspended in the VFL but....
Who would he play instead of? I don't think we can fit him in.
If he can maintain that form, I’d pick him before Pittonet and de Koning.
However, my preference would be to play Casboult at CHF and switch Silvagni to defence. We need a hard-nosed lockdown defender and Jack can play that role.
If he can maintain that form, I’d pick him before Pittonet and de Koning.
However, my preference would be to play Casboult at CHF and switch Silvagni to defence. We need a hard-nosed lockdown defender and Jack can play that role.
De koning has gone off the boil.
He was pretty ordinary against gws.
De koning has gone off the boil.
He was pretty ordinary against gws.
He’s been successfully normalised now.
He’s been successfully normalised now.
No, hes just a talented youngster who has succumbed to rigours of having to compete with battle hardened players every week.
Sam walsh is the exception not the rule. We play our kids with blokes who are broken down most of the time, so its no wonder they display patchy form.
People were very quick to pot Casboult based on his limitations, but they failed to be cogniscent of the fact, that our forward line functioned better with him in there, than without him, and that despite his limitations he is competing at each and every contest (rightly or wrongly) and De Koning is simply not at that level yet.
This is where we are falling over. We are picking blokes based on potential, and they all have something worth persisting with, but they are physically unready to compete each week and produce their best footy.
This is a KPI of why our team isnt doing better in games IMHO. It actually is more to do with the ability to compete for 4 quarters each and every week and its got to do with our list composition.
Its why dropping the senior players is quite stupid. They are 24/7 footballers, and whilst they could use the odd freshen up, I think they are being dropped to solidify their standing in the group, rather than anything else.
No, hes just a talented youngster who has succumbed to rigours of having to compete with battle hardened players every week.
Yes, as a young player these rucks need to be managed not slaughtered.
It's why I've been calling for recruitment of rucks for two years now, we are undermanned and putting another 23 year old into the mix is not the solution. When we lost kreuzer we lost a dominant senior ruck, so we need a 28-30 year old hard bodied 24x7 performer.
Pittonet is 24x7, but he is struggling to have a positive impact, he'll never give us the dominance we need it's not naturally in his game. He is more of a Barnaby French type.
This is particularly important for us, because we need seriously good tap ruck work along with seriously good 2nd effort follow up(blocks, shepherds, checking, tackles) to advantage our slower midfielders. When the tap doesn't go to exactly the right spot, our slower midfielders get beaten to the ball almost 100% of the time!
No, hes just a talented youngster who has succumbed to rigours of having to compete with battle hardened players every week.
In a team as piss weak as us where he gets exposed, unprotected to those rigours and where his preparation/development is probably nowhere near as good as it should gave been. In other words, normalised to the CFC way.
If he can maintain that form, I’d pick him before Pittonet and de Koning.
However, my preference would be to play Casboult at CHF and switch Silvagni to defence. We need a hard-nosed lockdown defender and Jack can play that role.
Vfl form and afl form are completely different.
As far as ruck duties go, when we have to rely on casboult, we suck. As a backup he is passable.....just. #1 guy? No chance.
He hasn't been fit enough all year and now people want him to play #1 ruck role?
We expect too much.
If you say As backup only, then either an out of form tdk takes #1 ruck, or he goes out of the side. I don't think we should do either of those either.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/962870?fbclid=IwAR08Km1acShejqkqq_T_1eWvfsX1cqqpJh7csI1Z2HUGMbDxkapNldD8YiI
If you say As backup only, then either an out of form tdk takes #1 ruck, or he goes out of the side. I don't think we should do either of those either.
We are overloaded with backup rucks, it's the 1st ruck we haven't got covered.
Pittonet is our only heavy bodied 4-Qtr ruck and he's struggling to have an impact, ideally he or Casboult would be the backup coming off the bench to relieve the 1st ruck.
Eventually that 1st ruck may be De Koning but he's 2 or 3 years away from being a consistent and reliable contributor.