The game is set for 13:45 on Saturday at Marvel and probably will go ahead with no fans, like last week. Not optimal, but we have a little more idea than some of the other clubs did.
The questions;
[1] Can our injured guys come up?
[2] Is jack going to be our full time ruck again?
[3] Can we bring the same intensity as last week?
We'll find out those answers by 16:45 on Saturday.
Righto, here we go. Which Carlton will turn up today?
No Changes, TDK in. Murphy the sub.
Here's a tip for Weiters, you played on this bloke last week (virtually)
Nowhere near the same pressure from us like we did last week.
two lovely turnovers so far,we are on the way. And whose stupid decision was it to start our best mid fielder at half back!! If Teague wants to experiment then do it pre season, not now.
Slow start
2nd to the ball everywhere.
Zzzzzzz Zzzzzzzz
55d to 22d
Our disposal is deplorable ATM
I'm not worried.
After all winning games isn't our priority. It's Carlton respects week, or we wear pink underpants week,or it's hot dog eating week.
With a chance at the 8, we should win this well, but we all know what our team is like.
I'm not worried.
After all winning games isn't our priority. It's Carlton respects week, or we wear pink underpants week,or it's hot dog eating week.
With a chance at the 8, we should win this well, but we all know what our team is like.
And game 299 for Murphy
We look clueless as to the way GC are playing.
And game 299 for Murphy
Phew! I couldn't sleep all week worrying about it.
And then people are critical when people criticise Plowman, just craps his pants when the slightest bit of pressure comes.
Anyone think that Owies could have kicked that goal?
Another hopeless case, Williamson. Two free Carlton players loose on the left half forward flank, and doesn't even look.
Honey is as cool as cucumber in front of goal
Another hopeless case, Williamson. Two free Carlton players loose on the left half forward flank, and doesn't even look.
Ball hit him on the back of the head (facing the wrong way).
Instant replay. This kid Honey should have been in weeks ago.
Instant replay. This kid Honey should have been in weeks ago.
It's easy to say that in retrospect, but at VFL level he was a bit flash in the pan and wasn't really playing 4-Qtrs of footy. It was hard to get a read on his fitness, he didn't look fit or looked a bit lazy / laconic. After today he'll earn some attention from opposition.
But he's stepped up, was always a good finisher and has shown it now, so let's hope he keeps it up! ;D
I've been a big fan since he played a few last year. Can kick 60 metres, is quick and most importantly, he's got a great football brain. Should have been picked long ago and encouraged. Hopefully, he will find a permanent oplace in the team, god knows, we have got plenty of passengers.
Maybe a little throw in there?
This will be my one Ploughman criticism for the day. He could have marked that ball, but chose not to do so and almost cost us a goal. Hopeless case.
Fisher unsighted …
Killed around stoppages..
Going through the motions
This is woeful
Two teams out there, Only one is trying desperately to win and it isn't us.
Thats 2 of the most weak as piss goals from an D50 stoppage you will ever see.
Please God can we have a ruckman …
Passengers, LOB, Betts, Fisher, Newnes, and that's just for starters.
Playing half-arsed again.
Any chance of a bit of intensity. ::)
WTF was LOB doing calling for the ball in the centre during a throw in ,,,,,
Playing half-arsed again.
Any chance of a bit of intensity. ::)
Can't do that mate. It's respect week. They are carrying out the clubs ideology and respecting their opponents so much that they don't want to hurt them.
My pet hate is when our blokes hack kick around the corner without looking. 99% of the time, we kick it to the oppo.
What an appalling half of footy.
H1 last week 50+ tackles.
Today? 27
LOB 2 disposals Betts 1, Saad 4, Dow 6, Martin 6, Fisher 8.
Not enough
Almost North Melb like performance to date. I really hope they get a blast in the rooms and come out with some urgency.
Can all the leaders please step up now!!!
A rather lacklustre affair. GC have upped their intensity from last week, we've dialled ours back and met at exactly the half way point lol.
Assuming we make it to finals, we won't be scaring anyone with that type of effort. Get the boys to watch GWS last night during the half time interval.
Weren’t we supposed to thump this mob?
C’mon Blues, big 2H!
Playing half-arsed again.
Any chance of a bit of intensity. ::)
Not SOJ, we saw clearly in that qtr he's having a '
crack.'
Weren’t we supposed to thump this mob?
Big difference between what fans want and what AFL teams can deliver, the difference between top and bottom isn't so great, assume anything and you'll get burnt!
I just read through all 3 pages. What i can't understand is..... you guys know we are winning right?!
Nothing but negativity.
What the hell is wrong with people??
We could come out with a 10 goal win from here, yet all I see is negativity.
Been a big arm wrestle so far, but I think we've come out on top. We can break gold coast from here and bury them without too much drama.
Missed the first half as I was having a nap. Sounds like I didn't missed alot.
We're lucky that a few GC fumbles and turnovers have given us opportunities & at least 1 goal.
We clearly weren't prepared for a GC having a go. Typical. Poor discipline and motivation. Plenty of passengers.
Been a big arm wrestle so far, but I think we've come out on top. We can break gold coast from here and buttery then without too much drama.
Yep, interesting to see how things go, losing Ellis is a big deal for them and us, he always plays well against us.
I thought Neil Craig retired when he left us, now he's sitting on the bench for the opposition?
GC are reasonable ball users, probably better than us, can't assume anything.
Arm wrestle so far, I expect us to get on top in the 2H.
Outworking us, out running us.
Arm wrestle so far, I expect us to get on top in the 2H.
I dont
That goal all from a turnover in F50 from a s-house lazy kick by H.
Well that wasn’t a good start.
Arm wrestle so far, I expect us to get on top in the 2H.
Because we're really in the position to toy with the bottom sides and put the foot down when we need to.
I just read through all 3 pages. What i can't understand is..... you guys know we are winning right?!
Nothing but negativity.
What the hell is wrong with people??
We could come out with a 10 goal win from here, yet all I see is negativity.
Been a big arm wrestle so far, but I think we've come out on top. We can break gold coast from here and bury them without too much drama.
I said in one of my posts that I reckon we should still win this, but the facts are the facts.
It's been a half arsed effort, passengers galore, and all the criticism that I and others have levelled at the players thus far, has been fully deserved.
Aside from a win, we badly need to improve our percentage and that aint happening when we are only three points in front as I type this.
So, you can cop all the mediocrity you like, most of us on here are sickened by it.
I just read through all 3 pages. What i can't understand is..... you guys know we are winning right?!
Nothing but negativity.
What the hell is wrong with people??
We could come out with a 10 goal win from here, yet all I see is negativity.
Been a big arm wrestle so far, but I think we've come out on top. We can break gold coast from here and bury them without too much drama.
Yes, we're in front, K, but I think most folks are more on about the softer effort compared to last week - about half as many tackles.
I also reckon folks reasonably expect us to account for this mob much more convincingly. Plus you can see some bad old habits back again. That's what irks us... softer attitude, softer intensity.
But it is only one half. We have the 2nd half to play closer to our potential rather than 1st half display. They're on top in too many important stats for us to be comfortable about being 2 kicks in front.
The 1st goal of the 3rd-Qtr shows GC rolled the dice and kept 3 players forward of our defence. If we are smart users and they keep doing that we should keep the footy.
Yep, interesting to see how things go, losing Ellis is a big deal for them and us, he always plays well against us.
I thought Neil Craig retired when he left us, now he's sitting on the bench for the opposition?
GC are reasonable ball users, probably better than us, can't assume anything.
"Retired"? People dont retire at Carlton, they are moved on. Craig went overseas to work with a rugby team from memory, returned home when covid hit. GC snapped him up.
Poor from Dow, spectating the contest again, that is the second time he has watched an opponent rove a marking contest in our D50 and goal.
Not convincing atm.
Need to lift intensity...
I just read through all 3 pages. What i can't understand is..... you guys know we are winning right?!
Nothing but negativity.
What the hell is wrong with people??
We could come out with a 10 goal win from here, yet all I see is negativity.
Been a big arm wrestle so far, but I think we've come out on top. We can break gold coast from here and bury them without too much drama.
One of the features of the In-Game thread is it's a reflection of a moment in time.
Folks often say things early in a game about how poor we're travelling and the fact is it's true at the time of writing.
Now read in retrospect it's sometimes funny when things turn around and we end up winning.
At the moment, with 11and a half minutes to go in the third, we're struggling against this mob and it's 'chalk and cheese' compared to last week.
I think we'll probably end up winning but the effort and pressure isn't nearly the same.
Such a typical Carlton performance - can’t ever put in a convincing effort when it’s expected to.
And just like that we fall behind this mob.
Leaders???
We wont miss Fisher one bit next year.
We are making the same mistakes that Ross Lyon and others have pointed out. We are hunting in packs and NOT manning up, so that's leaving their players loose. Prior to that GC goal I counted 5 of our blokes standing around together, which left the GC blokes loose.
Which begs the question, where are the instructions from the coach to tighten up one on one in defense.
And just like that we fall behind this mob.
Leaders???
We can all see what's coming.
Sadly, there are a number of us who really aren't all that surprised.
How easy do reams waltz out of our defence…
Very lazy….
Terrible coaching and leadership …….
We are Carlton
We are making the same mistakes that Ross Lyon and others have pointed out. We are hunting in packs and NOT manning up, so that's leaving their players loose. Prior to that GC goal I counted 5 of our blokes standing around together, which left the GC blokes loose.
Which begs the question, where are the instructions from the coach to tighten up one on one in defense.
Probably is, just the players are too lazy and never really care to listen. Been the case for most of 20 years.
They're working harder and it shows.
There are a lot of things I hate about our coaches and their tactics, but the one that sh!!ts me the most is not to have at least one forward in our forward line at all times.
Walsh clears the ball, to no one because they are all fin our defensive 50.
It should never happen
harry and Betts should have been told, no matter what happens you stay in our forward 50.
I reckon we are stuffed unless we perform miraculously in the last quarter.
They turn up when they feel like it. Time to weed out those types.
Sadly, there are a number of us who really aren't all that surprised.
Talk of owing them a coach sacking, 10 goal flogging, making the 8 etc LOL. Pathetic CFC.
Any chance we can kick it straight down the centre from the kick off and attack.
GC won the second and third qtrs. Lose the unlosable.
They turn up when they feel like it. Time to weed out those types.
Wouldn’t be able to field a side if we did that.
1 goal in a q against a bottom side is completely inadequate.
Will we continue to waltz around or will something click?
Navy Blue witches hats…
Shows what happens when Walsh, Cripps and Dow are held. No one else to cover.
We are no where near it and this could be the Coach Killer…
So, so listless.
Slow to move the ball.
No one playing a team game.
Could the the lack of effort against the Gold Coast kill another coach as it did in 2012.
Easiest team in the comp to play against. Apply a little pressure and we fold, cough the footy up and then absolutely get torched on transition as our defending thru the middle is non existent. Teague has got to go.
Time for a quick 4 from 4th Quarter Harry ;)
Any chance Teague might change a few things?
Wouldn’t be able to field a side if we did that.
When disposal from teams like GWS and Geel are fresh in your mind (from last night) and you watch the junk we dish up, it makes you realise how far away we are from contending. We are struggling against GS FFS.
What I reckon really irks us is the knowledge that our best is very bloody good, but we're just too selective, conditional and at times simply too fckn lazy to bring our best.
Time to go negative at the stoppages, hunt them instead of them doing it to us.
Look at that crap
Going to be some wonderful media if we blow this game.
Suns look cooked.
I fell asleep after my half time post and woke up just before 3/4 time. Seems the team did the same. :-[
Rest assured, we are all awake now and ready to go in the final quarter.
Goodbye LOB, just not up to it.
Harry's dead.
Great. H injured. What a game.
Weak effort by Stocker
Harry McKay sub him off. Don't waste time
Going to be some wonderful media if when we blow this game.
EFA
Weak effort by Stocker
that was a body spoil.
This is putrid.
I love the way Ploughman just stood there allowing Weiters to be tackled.
We are so bad
Harry McKay sub him off. Don't waste time
5 minutes ago it looked like Willo was struggling and ready to be subbed off.
Murphy isn't going to help us in either, but we need a spark, so may as well choose to sub one of them off now
Here's my review report (free of charge):
"This team lacks pride and heart"
The End
Dow having a shocker.
Kennedy just average, the around the ground stuff is worthless, if you are in as a mid you have to win midfield contests.
GC midfield much better depth than Carlton.
Disgraceful.
Embarrassing….
Option 1 Have a shot within distance
Option 2 Kick it to 1 CFC player with 3 opponents on him
Option 2 thanks
Mids absolutely destroyed. Walsh played at hb, wing, fwd. What a ""( joke
The TT is officially dismantled and filling the spare parts shelves. Bye
Dow having a shocker.
Kennedy just average, the around the ground stuff is worthless, if you are in as a mid you have to win midfield contests.
GC midfield much better depth than Carlton.
Our captain is worse than both. Paid 4 times as much.
We are the most over rated bottom tier team in the last 20 years.
Never deliver when it matters just can’t get it done ever when it means something.
The media know it the other teams supporters know it but us sucker blues fans keep believing maybe just maybe we are better then they think we are.
Well folks they are right. We are still rubbish.
Can't see us getting over the line from here. 3 goals in only a few minutes.
We'll know soon enough if the Board and Executive blink (again).
Miller kicks his second. Finito la musica.
That was the worst free they've paid all day
Rowell, Townsend, Ellis, big bodies all beating up on us in contested footy. Double our centre clearances.
Soft frees going GC way now, we'll get some evening up frees late deep in our D50.
All over red rover, now some of you blokes can get that finals nonsense out of your system. Hate to say I told you so but I will.
I haven't posted all that much on this site this year, but I have on some CFC supporters sites on Facebook.
I have consistently posted that we have a coach who shows no passion, refuses to make moves, and does not have a plan B or C if plan A fails.
I have also posted that we carry too many passengers. I've gone through some of them today, and there are more.
We have got players who are getting paid a fortune, for no results.
I have been a supporter for 68 years, and at least enjoyed the golden years.
But there are supporters out there who haven't seen any success for 26 years, and the way we are going, it might be another 26 before they ever see any.
If this club think we are going to get 80,000 plus members next year, to pay good hard Covid affected money to watch this cr@p, they can forget it.
That'sit for me for the year. I hope Covid permitting, to live until next season, when we might have a new coach, get rid of the deadwood, and at least give our long suffering supporters some joy.
Review officially complete.
Demoralised leaderless rabble
Goodbye TT. CUE in the rack this year..
Review officially complete.
Once again a GC game may (probably will) decide a Carlton coaches fate.
Same old, same old folks... and Dew knew it, apply real pressure to this CFC mob and they'll go to mush.
As of this minute we are the most unmotivated, undisciplined side in the AFL... save, maybe for the Crows.
Club is rotten to the core. It's deeper than the coach.
A very disappointing performance and capitulation. No heart this week.
I actually can’t believe what I’m watching
After last weeks efforts this is the most PUTRID F******* display I have witnessed and I am beyond pissed off!
We would’ve been 9th!!!!!! Now where who cares another nothing fcking season seeya later
Once again a GC game may (probably will) decide a Carlton coaches fate.
I'd say it'll do him in now. Won't necessarily solve the problems. Sad to say, we are a rotten club from top to bottom. New bloke might get a sugar hit for a year then it'll crash around him like everyone else.
A disgrace.
That's curtains fot DT and CFC. No messiah or any other magic will keep supporters on board.
Same old, same old folks... and Dew knew it, apply real pressure to this CFC mob and they'll go to mush.
As of this minute we are the most unmotivated, undisciplined side in the AFL... save, maybe for the Crows.
Spot on. Apply any pressure and we disintegrate immediately. No resilience, spineless.
Get ready for excuses to come…..
The lack of ticker is extraordinary.
That was the worst free they've paid all day
Potentially just beaten there....along with the 50.
Those decisions are the ball game.
Once again a GC game may (probably will) decide a Carlton coaches fate.
I jinxed it in the prematch. I take full responsibility.
All over red rover, now some of you blokes can get that finals nonsense out of your system. Hate to say I told you so but I will.
Neither of us bought into the 'could make the 8'. I flagged before the game that my concern was what would motivate us... should have been the things you mentioned before... passion and pride in the jumper. Our motivation only rises in response to a shocker, or the loss of a club great.
I actually can’t believe what I’m watching
After last weeks efforts this is the most PUTRID F******* display I have witnessed and I am beyond pissed off!
We would’ve been 9th!!!!!! Now where who cares another nothing fcking season seeya later
We were OK, the saints were fcking appalling. They allowed us to play on our terms.
Our blokes are kidding themselves.
Our motivation only rises in response to a shocker, or the loss of a club great.
But that is also what GC have done this week.
I jinxed it in the prematch. I take full responsibility.
I knew we were forked pre game when Brad Johnson predicted Eddie would kick 7 or 8.
Fair goal that.
Unfortunately Walsh looked like he just did his ankle
That young Rowell goes all right …
And just to rub it in………….
Just a rotten, rotten club.
Thanks blues. Did us proud again
We are a particularly useful club in playing out of form opposition back into form.
And just to rub it in………….
Yep, terrible shepherd attempt from Fisher... who'll be packing his bags soon.
A wholly putrid effort.
Teague especially.
We are a particularly useful club in playing out of form opposition back into form.
We are middle of the field club at the moment, and our opposition are middle of the field, fans expecting us to have a smashing win are crazy.
Posters here are talking like there was nothing for GC to play for, but their midfield smashed us, they had a brutal loss last week and responded. We had a few guys who went missing under the heat.
I jinxed it in the prematch. I take full responsibility.
Thanks mate. Nobody else is going to!
Let’s take it to the post game thread guys……sigh.
LOB had 6 touches at 3/4 time.
He got 8 in the last to finish with 14.
Too little too late, both in game and in career.