Internet is very dodgy at the moment. But I'll try to put up all of the necessary threads before it drops out again.
We play Port this afternoon in Adelaide with a VFL team on the park. Cripps is now out. If we win it would be a miracle.
Plowman pretends to stumble when beaten lol
Murph one of the only Carlton players that can hit a target thus far
Lively start by the Blues, I think thats the first time all year one of our blokes has taken a uncontested mark in the goal square.
Free kick in the goal square, this in unheard of :D :D
Free kick in the goal square, this in unheard of :D :D
A quick looking up of the live ladder while we are in front...haha.
A quick looking up of the live ladder while we are in front...haha.
Give it a rest Jim
A least they're having a go. Kemp looking OK.
Give it a rest Jim
I was kidding but wouldn't matter with the Saints 5 goals to zero up on Geelong near 1/4 time anyway. So we moved no-where...lol.
Do the umps realise when a fwd holds a defender by the arm its a free?
TDK needs to work on his goal kicking over the summer, gets one or two opportunities a game and fluffs them.
Come on, enough with the behinds. We could really give them something to think about at 1/4 time.
Come on, enough with the behinds. We could really give them something to think about at 1/4 time.
Alot rushed so we must have them under pressure.
Come on, enough with the behinds. We could really give them something to think about at 1/4 time.
Story of our year.
Walsh 13 touches, Kennedy 47 AFL Fantasy points.
Well done, Blues. We brought tackling and defensive pressure.
Like Kemp and Durdin. Plenty of promise. Murphy, Walsh and Kennedy all important. Weiters good.
Now to maintain this intent. Go Blues, they'll come hard at us in the 3rd... absorb the pressure boys and hit 'em hard.
Good team effort so far, just need to finish a bit better.
Well done, Blues. We brought tackling and defensive pressure.
Like Kemp and Durdin. Plenty of promise. Murphy, Walsh and Kennedy all important. Weiters good.
Now to maintain this intent. Go Blues.
Unsustainable, but good to see. Hopefully we don't drop off too much.
Walsh what a player, forget second effort, try 3 - 4 efforts, relentless.
29 can play
Unsustainable, but good to see. Hopefully we don't drop off too much.
By contrast, we have kicked 2 quickies.
Great signs, kids doing the leading!
29 can play
Durdin. Potential gun. Reads the play so well.
Go kids!!
We could be 6 goals up with some straighter kicking. Why are Port fast asleep ?
We could be 6 goals up with some straighter kicking. Why are Port fast asleep ?
Weathering the storm.
Rope a dope.
screwen rubbish dangerous tackle
Very soft free to Boak.
Pressure elite. Last week pressure poor.
Very soft free to Boak.
Worst free kick this year.
Talk about a soft free against Saad. Bullshizen decision.
Port are applying serious pressure now. Big test for response and character.
Bad match up for Kemp. This bloke is running rings around him. A tall on the goal line could have saved that, attention to detail. 10 horrible minutes.
Soft tackle attempt, Murphy. Very ordinary.
Port are applying serious pressure now. Big test for response and character.
Dam wall about to break.
Can we patch it before it does??
Bad match up for Kemp. This bloke is running rings around him
Kemp is our 2nd key defender.....every matchup is a bad matchup for him.
Dig deep and keep focus!
Home ground advantage umpiring helps.
Dam wall about to break.
Can we patch it before it does??
No, it's why Teague is going to get fired.
Home ground advantage umpiring helps.
You just can't beat em!
Home ground advantage umpiring helps.
Yep
And just like that
Kemp is our 2nd key defender.....every matchup is a bad matchup for him.
Tigers were missing Balta and Astbury last night but only we have injuries.
Thats an umpire inspired comeback
And just like that
Get Clarko.
We need to close the game down until half time.
Same old, same old... hit us with pressure and we fold. But I still don't reckon we're out of this... composure and intensity needed.
Dishes off to a bloke who cant make the distant lol
Aliir making short work of Charlie atm.
TDK just doesnt work hard enough
Same old, same old... hit us with pressure and we fold. But I still don't reckon we're out of this... composure and intensity needed.
Its not about pressure today....we are giving it.
Its is about something that everyone seems to overlook.
That is, they are simply a better side, with more talent out on the park today.
We can't WIN this game.
They can lose it though.......but they won't.
Aliir making short work of Charlie atm.
Thats what 2.5 years out of the game does for you.
Aliir making short work of Charlie atm.
Makes it real easy when we darken kick it to him. Any danger we can place the football to where he aint.
5 unanswered goals, FFS. Must find a response.
Yet another 5 goal turnaround.
5 unanswered goals, FFS. Must find a response.
Seriously Baggers, who, Durdin, Kemp, Honey, what do fans expect?
Front on contact not awarded unless you're a port player.
Charlie stiff.
No front on contact there?
Thats 6 in row. Thats why he'll get sacked.
Front on contact not awarded unless you're a port player.
Charlie stiff.
Free kick Port, you just can't beat them!
That's why Port are sitting at the top of the ladder, that is why our board made such a massive faux pas when it gave away our home ground advantage for profit!
Seriously Baggers, who, Durdin, Kemp, Honey, what do fans expect?
Happens every second week.
Umpires inserted themselves into the contest and are on top here.
Thats 6 in row. Thats why he'll get sacked.
Not sure how much control he's got over the umpiring.
They've been handed 2 of them, and we've been shafted out of 1.
The very reason Teague is under pressure is on display.
Just no answer at all when teams get a run on. 6 in a row against the flow and no plan to arrest the slide.
Same old same old. Been the same for 2 years.
Free kicks 11 - 5 at half time.
You get the feeling a lot of our fans do not actually watch the game!
We've just experienced a 4 goal swing courtesy of seriously bad umpiring, you'd expect none of them will feature in the finals!
In one instance we had a sling tackle paid against us, the Port player was holding his head in pain before he hit he ground!
Team A played qtr 1, Team B played qtr 2. Irrespective of who's on the park, the gap between our best and wort is huge.
Not a chance any Clarkson led team would allow this. That’s the difference the folks.
Or we could just keep finding excuses. Year after year after year.
The very reason Teague is under pressure is on display.
Just no answer at all when teams get a run on. 6 in a row against the flow and no plan to arrest the slide.
Same old same old. Been the same for 2 years.
Agree. Just watched our guys standing off the contest watching Port make the play. We seem incapable of switching into a full defensive mode, the old tempo footy, to weather a storm and just frustrate the opposition.
You get the feeling a lot of our fans do not actually watch the game!
We've just experienced a 4 goal swing courtesy of seriously bad umpiring, you'd expect none of them will feature in the finals!
When your first to the footy...
The non free to Charlie was stiff
The push in the back after the disposal to Fantasia was there
The dangerous tackle to Boak was rubbish.
Wheres the rest?
You get the feeling a lot of our fans do not actually watch the game!
We've just experienced a 4 goal swing courtesy of seriously bad umpiring, you'd expect none of them will feature in the finals!
I think i'm in the same parallel universe as you.
Not sure what game these 'sack teague' blokes are watching, but it can't be the same one as me.
The lack of consistency in the umpiring is mind-numbing. Williamson ping for deliberate, then Kennedy tackle a bloke who throws its over the boundary and they don't even blink an eye. McGovern, front on contact 100%, pings down the other end and an unbelievably soft down the field goal. The Saad tackle. Seriously a joke, the club needs to be asking questions.
You get the feeling a lot of our fans do not actually watch the game!
We've just experienced a 4 goal swing courtesy of seriously bad umpiring, you'd expect none of them will feature in the finals!
Take the blue glasses off mate. Yes there was a few questionable one but as lethal used to say you can’t control them but the fact they controlled the second half of that quarter was not because of a few 50/50 frees that went against us.
If you look hard enough for excuses you will also find em.
7 unanswered goals, once the serious pressure was applied. Again.
You don't want to be critical of a bloke in his 300th, but, sheesh, his 2nd qtr fadeout... just when leadership is needed from experienced heads - ditto Levi.
This is where a coaching move is needed - get more intensity around the ball. Nothing to lose, put Stocker in the midfield.
I know the old saying of quit while you're ahead, but why do we have to take it so literally.
7 unanswered goals, once the serious pressure was applied. Again.
You don't want to be critical of a bloke in his 300th, but, sheesh, his 2nd qtr fadeout... just when leadership is needed from experienced heads - ditto Levi.
This is where a coaching move is needed - get more intensity around the ball. Nothing to lose, put Stocker in the midfield.
Only 6...lol.
Agree. Just watched our guys standing off the contest watching Port make the play. We seem incapable of switching into a full defensive mode, the old tempo footy, to weather a storm and just frustrate the opposition.
It’s the same old same old cookie. When they got on top we were second to every contest and were completely outnumbered when the ball was in dispute. We let them thru the corridor too. Surely by now the coaching group had some answer to when these runs of goals occur but nope.
Not a chance any Clarkson led team would allow this. That’s the difference the folks.
Or we could just keep finding excuses. Year after year after year.
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It’s the same old same old cookie. When they got on top we were second to every contest and were completely outnumbered when the ball was in dispute. We let them thru the corridor too. Surely by now the coaching group had some answer to when these runs of goals occur but nope.
They'll work on a plan over Xmas.
Take the blue glasses off mate. Yes there was a few questionable one but as lethal used to say you can’t control them but the fact they controlled the second half of that quarter was not because of a few 50/50 frees that went against us.
If you look hard enough for excuses you will also find em.
You are right, you can't control them......but they can control the game.
The game is taken out of Teagues hands.
11-5 at half time.
Commentators have said at least 3 frees they got shots on goal from were not there.
Thats the margin.
And at the other end, we didn't get some they would've got.
Then we're in front again and with momentum.
Its not rocket science.
I expect to lose this game by 10 goals.....and thats with fair umpiring, so i'm not surprised at the result thus far. I think its fair reflection of the strengths (or lack of) of the 2 sides. The umpires are going to turn it into a 15 goal game!
Not a chance any Clarkson led team would allow this. That’s the difference the folks.
Or we could just keep finding excuses. Year after year after year.
Every other coach has "allowed" it why would Clarko be any different. Our players aren't fussy which coach they "treat" badly.
His mate Bolton will soon tell him, and likely talk him out of it. Anyway, his mate Bevo gave it away before their game today that he is likely going overseas next year.
Same old crap
Port now doing just what they like.
Does a side just give up like we do?
Every other coach has "allowed" it why would Clarko be any different. Our players aren't fussy which coach they "treat" badly.
His mate Bolton will soon tell him, and likely talk him out of it. Anyway, his mate Bevo gave it away before their game today that he is likely going overseas next year.
Williamson is a hack kick on his left and has no right foot.
Will be one of the first gone if Clarko is appointed.
Does a side just give up like we do?
When the only way we know doesn’t work we are fecked.
Williamson is a hack kick on his left and has no right foot.
Will be one of the first gone if Clarko is appointed.
He'll walk into the worst job in football. We'll enjoy a sugar hit for a year, as will any of them, then it will turn to crap.
Doubt he'll coach next year anyway.
Every other coach has "allowed" it why would Clarko be any different. Our players aren't fussy which coach they "treat" badly.
His mate Bolton will soon tell him, and likely talk him out of it. Anyway, his mate Bevo gave it away before their game today that he is likely going overseas next year.
Surely your joking. No club has allowed the run of goals against we have in the last few years. None!!!
You can argue about umpires and injuries but not the run ons.
Maybe we need a captain-coach, who can kick them straight up the ass on the spot....lol.
Even then he'd likely miss the target...haha.
Surely your joking. No club has allowed the run of goals against we have in the last few years. None!!!
You can argue about umpires and injuries but not the run ons.
Culture has been the same for 20 years, especially the way we just give up. You missed it or are you a new supporter?
Our best effort was giving up 7 in a row in a qtr against a side with 16 men.
Maybe we need a captain-coach, who can kick them straight up the ass on the spot....lol.
Even then he'd likely miss the target...haha.
At least it would be funny.
10 unanswered now. 🙄
After being 11-5 at half time....Port only got 2 free kicks that quarter.
Unfortunately, we only managed 1.
13-6 at 3/4 time.
Well on our way to my expected 10 goal defeat.
Margin from here is just about Port from here.
If they go into conservation mode because they have finals to worry about, we might keep it at that, or less.
If they are out for blood and/or %, we are in all sorts!
Hopefully umps give us a free cheapies to help even up the tally.
Outplayed and destroyed. Our best hope is to try and at least salvage a smidge of credibility and self respect.
At least it would be funny.
10 unanswered now. 🙄
Haha!
Geelong v St.Kilda is exciting. I've more to there now.
And they just rolled over
That play highlights Teague's coaching career.
That play highlights Teague's coaching career.
Yep. 11 now.
It won't be Clarkson, I reckon that Lyon or Buckley will get the job.
Whoever gets it, they will have a ton of work to do to improve this mob.
Our skill level is non-existent, and we aren't physically big or fit enough.
We have got too many passengers who aren't even close to giving us the opportunity to make the 8, and a flag. That's at least 6 top class players away.
What a top class coach can do for us in his first year, provided he gets top class assistants, and we recruit well, and the assistants and our coach can improve the skills and strengths and discipline of the team, and the coach has a game plan, and a plan B and C if plan A doesn't work, is maybe get us into the 8 so that we get a taste and a feeling for finals football.
And once you are in there, anything is possible.
Teague is a gentleman, and understands the basics of the game. After losses, I watch his press conferences, and he knows what they have done wrong, because he articulates all the things that we see.
His problem, and the reason that he's not up to the job, is that he has been unable to correct the issues that he himself understands they suffer from.
So he, and his assistants have to go. A hard disciplined mob have to be brought in, and get through to the players that they are a privileged lot, earning an average of 300 grand a year when people are stuffed due to Covid, and nothing other than 100% effort will get them a game and guarantee them a future at our club.
We won't win every game, the players will still make mistakes, but if we lose having given it all, as much as it will hurt, we will understand that we can't win every game, and will accept a 100% effort, loss.
But if we have another year next year like this one, the club can say goodbye to people, in these tough times, putting their hands in their pockets and parting with their hard earned and buying a membership.
As it stands at the moment, I can't see us getting to the 80,000 mark next year unless the major changes that we supporters believe need to be made, are made.
Besides the putrid umpiring that changed the momentum on the second quarter I have to say
Listening to the Fox commentary crew would have to be the lowlight of my day. Dixon has clearly been beaten by Weiters yet listening to Jono Brown he keeps trying to talk up Dixon, it’s an absolute joke.
What a crap game.
Our kicking for goal in both games against Port has been horrific.
Jonathon Brown has no @&$?ing idea. His summary of Weitering vs Dixon match up is disgraceful.
Besides the putrid umpiring that changed the momentum on the second quarter I have to say
Listening to the Fox commentary crew would have to be the lowlight of my day. Dixon has clearly been beaten by Weiters yet listening to Jono Brown he keeps trying to talk up Dixon, it’s an absolute joke.
What a crap game.
You should listen to the ABC boys on the wireless. Campo is doing the special comments. Far more balanced and measured than those Murodch hacks.
Besides the putrid umpiring that changed the momentum on the second quarter I have to say
Listening to the Fox commentary crew would have to be the lowlight of my day. Dixon has clearly been beaten by Weiters yet listening to Jono Brown he keeps trying to talk up Dixon, it’s an absolute joke.
What a crap game.
I wonder it they're aware of just how frustrating that is to listen to. When the team is getting well beaten and the commentators won't even acknowledge how completely destroyed Dixon has been
Before anyone cries that it's because of so many outs or the umpires... how different does this look to so many of our games this year? With more talent on the park the only difference would be the size of our losing margin.
It's the same stuff under pressure - capitulation. They just don't know how to handle pressure or give it and sustain it. Too much left to individual talent. Disappointing. No excuses.
Gosh Plowman is a horror show.
It won't be Clarkson, I reckon that Lyon or Buckley will get the job.
Whoever gets it, they will have a ton of work to do to improve this mob.
Our skill level is non-existent, and we aren't physically big or fit enough.
We have got too many passengers who aren't even close to giving us the opportunity to make the 8, and a flag. That's at least 6 top class players away.
What a top class coach can do for us in his first year, provided he gets top class assistants, and we recruit well, and the assistants and our coach can improve the skills and strengths and discipline of the team, and the coach has a game plan, and a plan B and C if plan A doesn't work, is maybe get us into the 8 so that we get a taste and a feeling for finals football.
And once you are in there, anything is possible.
Teague is a gentleman, and understands the basics of the game. After losses, I watch his press conferences, and he knows what they have done wrong, because he articulates all the things that we see.
His problem, and the reason that he's not up to the job, is that he has been unable to correct the issues that he himself understands they suffer from.
So he, and his assistants have to go. A hard disciplined mob have to be brought in, and get through to the players that they are a privileged lot, earning an average of 300 grand a year when people are stuffed due to Covid, and nothing other than 100% effort will get them a game and guarantee them a future at our club.
We won't win every game, the players will still make mistakes, but if we lose having given it all, as much as it will hurt, we will understand that we can't win every game, and will accept a 100% effort, loss.
But if we have another year next year like this one, the club can say goodbye to people, in these tough times, putting their hands in their pockets and parting with their hard earned and buying a membership.
As it stands at the moment, I can't see us getting to the 80,000 mark next year unless the major changes that we supporters believe need to be made, are made.
20 years of coach changes have changed nothing. Only good thing is a new coach always gets a sugar hit, which might mean finals for one year, before turning to crap in years 2 and 3 and the coach gets sacked. But, hey, i'll be thankful for small mercies.
Don't get excited thinking a coach will change things.
Before anyone cries that it's because of so many outs or the umpires... how different does this look to so many of our games this year? With more talent on the park the only difference would be the size of our losing margin.
It's the same stuff under pressure - capitulation. They just don't know how to handle pressure or give it and sustain it. Too much left to individual talent. Disappointing. No excuses.
It's definitely worse than our other games.
But Plowman is top 3 in the B and F.
Our kicking for goal in both games against Port has been horrific.
Port hasn’t been that flash in that dept either, heaven help us if they had have been.
Gosh Plowman is a horror show.
Dunno, I'm watching Geelong v St. Kilda. 2 pts in it with 6 min to go.
How many clubs regardless of who they field have 14 goals in row scored against them!!!
Disgusting. Just has to be changes.
14 unanswered goals now.
Yep. 11 now.
Give Clarko a 6 year contract and tell him to fix our club.
Dunno, I'm watching Geelong v St. Kilda. 2 pts in it with 6 min to go.
Go comment on that game then hero.
Williamson seriously thinks he is Chris Judd.
And i didn’t know Fisher was subbed
Give Clarko a 6 year contract and tell him to fix our club.
That’s what I would do. And If that fails lock the doors shut.
15 goals now.
There has to be an announcement tonight.
Plowman should be desisted. Just cannot carry a player that has no weapons and turns the ball over like he does. We don't play finals if he plays more than 5 games next year.
There has to be an announcement tonight.
Yep
Farewell game next week.
Before anyone cries that it's because of so many outs or the umpires... how different does this look to so many of our games this year? With more talent on the park the only difference would be the size of our losing margin.
It's the same stuff under pressure - capitulation. They just don't know how to handle pressure or give it and sustain it. Too much left to individual talent. Disappointing. No excuses.
Umpires and injuries are the cause of the margin.
Effort (early) was top notch.....but was not sustainable...as i said at the time.
We simply are not fit enough (2 debutants, a few blokes coming back from long layoffs) and are lacking the talent by comparison.
Port are on top of the ladder, on their home deck....with next to no injuries and everything to play for. Why would you expect anything else?
You showed your hand when you were overly excited early on. Your expectations don't match reality.
How many clubs regardless of who they field have 14 goals in row scored against them!!!
Disgusting. Just has to be changes.
15
It's definitely worse than our other games.
No excuses?
Really?
Teague and Ratten. Nice guys but can't coach.
I wonder what the record is for the most consecutive goals in a game. 15 so far... we may assist in a record!
How many clubs regardless of who they field have 14 goals in row scored against them!!!
Disgusting. Just has to be changes.
16
Give Clarko a 6 year contract and tell him to fix our club.
I think Clarkson understands that he currently works in a successful organisation, and whilst he has undoubtedly contributed to that success, Hawthorn was successful for decades before he got there. Even if you gave him a 20 year contract, it won't change much unless things above him change.
Make that 16.
All the good coaches are picks.
Clarkson, Hardwick, Malthouse, Sheedy, Matthews.
Abject capitulation. Talk now of a record goals against in a row being threatened.
I wonder what the record is for the most consecutive goals in a game. 15 so far... we may assist in a record!
Saw us allow the first 12 against Freo under Bolton.
Some clubs struggle to attract players given their situation. We'll struggle to attract a coach
20 years of coach changes have changed nothing. Only good thing is a new coach always gets a sugar hit, which might mean finals for one year, before turning to crap in years 2 and 3 and the coach gets sacked. But, hey, i'll be thankful for small mercies.
Don't get excited thinking a coach will change things.
I would have thought that my post was one of the least excited ones, I have posted in years.
I'm just hoping we get a full clean out of the joint and and a new beginning. Is it guaranteed to work?
As the old saying goes, the only thing that's guaranteed is death and taxes, and if you are smart enough, you can avoid paying tax.
Let's just start with the changes that all of us, at least I think all of us on this site, believe we need, and we will go from there.
So embarrassing.
18 farking goals without a single answer! Any pressure and we fall to bits.
All while our coach sits with no reaction like a stunned bloody mullet.
Surely this is it and he will be shown the door this week.
Make that 17.
Abject capitulation. Talk now of a record goals against in a row being threatened.
I was at a game in 1985 where we led Richmond 22 to 1.
embarrassing
I think Teague must be considering just walking away after the final siren tonight. He must be in dread of next week now.
embarrassing
Cringe worthy.
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I would have thought that my post was one of the least excited ones, I have posted in years.
I'm just hoping we get a full clean out of the joint and and a new beginning. Is it guaranteed to work?
As the old saying goes, the only thing that's guaranteed is death and taxes, and if you are smart enough, you can avoid paying tax.
Let's just start with the changes that all of us, at least I think all of us on this site, believe we need, and we will go from there.
Yes!
We need to remove the players with poor attitude and a lack of motivation out of the club before we do anything.
Our strategy of guarding grass has not served us well this year. Opposition coaches must love coming up against our setup.
I think Teague must be considering just walking away after the final siren tonight. He must be in dread of next week now.
who would even want to coach next week
I think Teague must be considering just walking away after the final siren tonight. He must be in dread of next week now.
He may of a while ago but he missed the payout.
Willo doing his best Paul Bower impersonation.
Delist him.
Representative of Murphy's career unfortunately.
We need to remove the players with poor attitude and a lack of motivation out of the club before we do anything.
How did they get this way? Anyone could look like a goose with this game plan... or the lack, thereof. They were motivated to begin with... to a man, but when the pressure came they folded, again. You need to look beyond the players, the way they play is a symptom of something deeply amiss above them.
Willo doing his best Paul Bower impersonation.
Delist him.
how many times does he get caught holding the ball
We have managed to interrupt their run of goals with 6 behinds in that time...lol.
Isn't that so typically Carlton.
Saw us allow the first 12 against Freo under Bolton.
Some clubs struggle to attract players given their situation. We'll struggle to attract a coach
I think the record mentioned was 23. Tonight a lazy 19 so far.
Geelong did 23 straight against Freo in 2018.
19 goals in a row.
Williamson typifies is as a club. Makes the same stupid decisions every week and never ever ever adjusts.
just a lazy 19 goals in a row thank god this is nearly over
19 in row, is that a record?
How did the umpire not do anything about the way Saad was dealt with after he had disposed of the ball?
19 in row, is that a record?
I think someone else mentioned 23 is the record.
The blessed relief of the final siren……
I am not watching this one. Assuming I've got enough net to see anything.
I am not watching this one. Assuming I've got enough net to see anything.
Watch the first quarter and turn it off and pretend the game was cancelled from there.
Let’s retire to the post mortem thread guys.