I know he copped a bad rap after the Grand Final fiasco, but Bat Out Of Hell is still one of the all time great albums, and his tour of Australia on the strength of that album was bloody good! The Meat is dead , but the music will definitely live on!!
His name was Robert Paulson...
RIP
His name was Robert Paulson...
RIP
Born Marvin Lee Aday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_Loaf
Born Marvin Lee Aday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_Loaf
Yes, I think that's right. Robert Paulson is the character Meat Loaf played in Fight Club.
"Bat out of Hell" was one of our wedding songs. ;D
Farewell Mr Loaf
RIP :(
Very sad news, RIP.
His name was Robert Paulson...
RIP
This is Bob.
Bob has bitchtits
Australia’s biggest selling album ever is Meat Loaf’s “Bat Out Of Hell” selling nearly 2 million copies here.
It’s the 4th biggest selling album in the world.
That’s a lot of Meat Loaf…!! RIP
Born Marvin Lee Aday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_Loaf
The first rule of fight club is that you do not talk about fight club.
Joining his writing mate, Jim Steinman who also passed not long ago.
Very sad news, RIP.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Australia’s biggest selling album ever is Meat Loaf’s “Bat Out Of Hell” selling nearly 2 million copies here.
I've always felt those stats are a bit dubious, because it seems to depend heavily on the source of the data and a certain level of continuity in management/ownership.
Do you know how they work the cut off for these figures, or how they are calculated?
The thing that alerted me to an anomaly a few years back was an interview I watched with Elton John. He thanked Australia for buying over 1 million copies of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, yet when I looked it up official sales were only 200,000, but that 200,000 was an "at the time" of release figure and there seems to be no update after many decades ago!
I've also heard recent attributes of bands like Cold Chisel, Australian Crawl and Skyhooks selling close to 1 million of their hit albums in Australia but they never seem to appear in official figures.
The "Bat out of Hell" figures seems to be accumulative, as are many others in that list!
btw, I'm not disputing the figures, I'm just curious that there seems to be such a massive differential from some other obviously huge and very commonly found albums.
Years ago when I worked for the newspapers, one of my mates at work was the editor for the music reviews, back then it was a big part of the weekend papers, he'd claim back then which was in the 80s/90s nobody else's sales even came close to ABBA's sales!
I've always felt those stats are a bit dubious, because it seems to depend heavily on the source of the data and a certain level of continuity in management/ownership.
Do you know how they work the cut off for these figures, or how they are calculated?
The thing that alerted me to an anomaly a few years back was an interview I watched with Elton John. He thanked Australia for buying over 1 million copies of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, yet when I looked it up official sales were only 200,000, but that 200,000 was an "at the time" of release figure and there seems to be no update after many decades ago!
I've also heard recent attributes of bands like Cold Chisel, Australian Crawl and Skyhooks selling close to 1 million of their hit albums in Australia but they never seem to appear in official figures.
The "Bat out of Hell" figures seems to be accumulative, as are many others in that list!
btw, I'm not disputing the figures, I'm just curious that there seems to be such a massive differential from some other obviously huge and very commonly found albums.
Years ago when I worked for the newspapers, one of my mates at work was the editor for the music reviews, back then it was a big part of the weekend papers, he'd claim back then which was in the 80s/90s nobody else's sales even came close to ABBA's sales!
Who knows for sure.
I have 'Bat out of Hell'...but I also have two ABBA albums.
At the time the Meatloaf thing was pretty big...as was Meatloaf. ;D
I've always felt those stats are a bit dubious, because it seems to depend heavily on the source of the data and a certain level of continuity in management/ownership.
Do you know how they work the cut off for these figures, or how they are calculated?
The thing that alerted me to an anomaly a few years back was an interview I watched with Elton John. He thanked Australia for buying over 1 million copies of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, yet when I looked it up official sales were only 200,000, but that 200,000 was an "at the time" of release figure and there seems to be no update after many decades ago!
I've also heard recent attributes of bands like Cold Chisel, Australian Crawl and Skyhooks selling close to 1 million of their hit albums in Australia but they never seem to appear in official figures.
The "Bat out of Hell" figures seems to be accumulative, as are many others in that list!
btw, I'm not disputing the figures, I'm just curious that there seems to be such a massive differential from some other obviously huge and very commonly found albums.
Years ago when I worked for the newspapers, one of my mates at work was the editor for the music reviews, back then it was a big part of the weekend papers, he'd claim back then which was in the 80s/90s nobody else's sales even came close to ABBA's sales!
I know what you mean, but I have written two books on this type of music trivia. I always try to fine two independant sources or quotes before including it. A lot of figures are based on charts and records from America, England Australia. The difficulty happened when Asia built a pirate black market which blew out figures. I don't include those...
I know what you mean, but I have written two books on this type of music trivia. I always try to fine two independant sources or quotes before including it. A lot of figures are based on charts and records from America, England Australia. The difficulty happened when Asia built a pirate black market which blew out figures. I don't include those...
Thanks
@Wet Willie , I'm glad that suspicion is not just my paranoia setting in.
I know what you mean, but I have written two books on this type of music trivia. I always try to fine two independant sources or quotes before including it. A lot of figures are based on charts and records from America, England Australia. The difficulty happened when Asia built a pirate black market which blew out figures. I don't include those...
Just out of curiosity, do you know all those "Australian Idol" BS figures worked?
Rumours of singles going to #1 before they are even released etc.
Suggestions that its the record companies buying up their own stock to inflate those figures etc.
Record companies released press statements that an album has been "shipped platinum", where the albums were shipped to stores only to have them returned at a later date.
These days, sadly, record companies pump up how many streams a song has had. A million streams is worth about $10,000 to the artist and is killing the viability of music.
It's a bit like journalists quoting social media as a source for a story. You have to be careful about what you believe...
Thanks for the black market thought, not something I'd considered.
Of course when some of us oldies hear or read album we think vinyl, but I appreciate that is not the truth of the matter, but I wonder if it describes a potential source of difference in the figures.
For example, some classic albums I've originally purchased as vinyl, then perhaps tape, followed by CD and maybe even DVD, finally to end with an iTunes download! Don't ask me why, lazy I guess, but it may certainly inflate some figures for identifiably classic albums!
Recently I read about Tones and I, sales some of music histories greats could only dream about, and not a single pressing, ongoing overheads are effectively zero!
And surely Thriller and DSOTM would register similar amounts
....and Gene Pitney's Big Sixteen. ;D
And surely Thriller and DSOTM would register similar amounts
Would've thought The Beatles should be up there somewhere too.
Would've thought The Beatles should be up there somewhere too.
Perhaps but way too many albums from their catalogue would count against them to overtake the others. Line up 10 Beatles fans to nominate their favourite album and you'd never get 10 common replies.
Thanks for the black market thought, not something I'd considered.
Of course when some of us oldies hear or read album we think vinyl, but I appreciate that is not the truth of the matter, but I wonder if it describes a potential source of difference in the figures.
For example, some classic albums I've originally purchased as vinyl, then perhaps tape, followed by CD and maybe even DVD, finally to end with an iTunes download! Don't ask me why, lazy I guess, but it may certainly inflate some figures for identifiably classic albums!
Recently I read about Tones and I, sales some of music histories greats could only dream about, and not a single pressing, ongoing overheads are effectively zero!
Dont sell yourself short LP.
Its not convenience thats the driver. There are a multitude of reasons to buy a good album as a digital download, even whilst owning a CD.
They don't all start and end at the same spot, but the conversion from even something like a CD to MP3 isnt straight forward these days particularly when the average computer doesnt come with a CD rom anymore.
Not to mention that it is a time consuming activity to then categorise the album with the appropriate text, and descriptions.
I consider it money spent, to save time and support the artist whenever I make a digital purchase of audio I already own in another format.