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Princes Park => Robert Heatley Stand => Topic started by: Lods on December 11, 2023, 06:53:43 pm

Title: Cripps Backs JSOS
Post by: Lods on December 11, 2023, 06:53:43 pm
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1071191/carlton-skipper-patrick-cripps-backs-son-of-a-gun-jack-silvagnis-role-in-blues-flag-pursuit

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"I think his role's really important," Cripps told reporters on Monday.

"He plays that hybrid forward; he can play tall and play small with his pressure. His biggest one-wood is the competitive energy he has.

"(There's) that second ruck role that he can play as well as an undersized player with a bit more mobility around the ground.

"It's all up to the coaching staff in terms of if we play two rucks or go the hybrid role, but you know what you're going to get when SOS (Silvagni) plays.

"The boys love playing with him."

One of the problems (a good one we have) is how we set up our forward line next year.
No doubt there will be a element of 'horses for courses'.
It will be interesting to see how they use Jack next season and how many games he plays.
He'd be in my team simply because of his versatility, but he does face some competition.
Title: Re: Cripps Backs JSOS
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on December 11, 2023, 07:17:48 pm
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1071191/carlton-skipper-patrick-cripps-backs-son-of-a-gun-jack-silvagnis-role-in-blues-flag-pursuit

One of the problems (a good one we have) is how we set up our forward line next year.
No doubt there will be a element of 'horses for courses'.
It will be interesting to see how they use Jack next season and how many games he plays.
He'd be in my team simply because of his versatility, but he does face some competition.
Nice of the captain to back him in and as I have said he would be in my best 22 but unfortunately I dont see the coach and MC feeling the same and " being a Jack of all trades" might work against him with a fully fit list.
Title: Re: Cripps Backs JSOS
Post by: crashlander on December 11, 2023, 07:29:31 pm
If he plays like he did just before he was injured, he'll have no problems.
Title: Re: Cripps Backs JSOS
Post by: LP on December 11, 2023, 07:29:43 pm
Luckily for many in the AFL no club ever has a fully fit list, and all that you can do is be ready and cherry ripe when you get your chance.
Title: Re: Cripps Backs JSOS
Post by: kruddler on December 11, 2023, 07:40:59 pm
The old saying, almost always misquoted (or paraphrased) sums up my thoughts on Jack and his 'competition' for spots.

Jack of all trades master of none, though oftentimes better than master of one
Title: Re: Cripps Backs JSOS
Post by: LordLucifer on December 11, 2023, 10:15:52 pm
I don't see him having a role in the seniors unless there are a significant amount of injuries.
Title: Re: Cripps Backs JSOS
Post by: pinot on December 12, 2023, 03:31:46 am
I don't see him having a role in the seniors unless there are a significant amount of injuries.
"significant" nah

24-27th player in the squad. He is way above average with continuity in preferred position.
Title: Re: Cripps Backs JSOS
Post by: Thryleon on December 12, 2023, 09:16:04 am
The competitiveness he plays with is intangible IMHO.

Jack is the sort of player that you need in your team to win matches.  I wonder whether or not the Prelim would have gone differently with him being fit to play.

There was a bloke from Hawthorn who was similar.  Played the game of his life in a grand final, then retired at age 26.  Suspect it was Will Langford but the memory works infrequently lately.
Title: Re: Cripps Backs JSOS
Post by: LP on December 12, 2023, 10:57:16 am
I wonder whether or not the Prelim would have gone differently with him being fit to play.
I suspect a fit SoJ makes a difference in some close games earlier in the season, and as such our path through finals might have been quite different. But in fairness we can probably state as much about several other players.

Agree on the intangibles, a fit and firing SoJ lifts the fan base, and that fan base then lifts the team.

But we need our Bluebagger fan base to learn from the Filthbase, and the closer games get the louder we must become, no shrinking into our seats like the Prelim. We influence players and umpires, if you want the rub of the green get loud!
Title: Re: Cripps Backs JSOS
Post by: Lods on December 12, 2023, 12:20:51 pm
Agree on the intangibles, a fit and firing SoJ lifts the fan base, and that fan base then lifts the team.

I was just thinking this morning... What does Jack perhaps offer that may be a bit different than just his ability to play multiple roles?
I had exactly the same thought.
Fans love Silvagni.
When he's up and firing and does something special they get a lift.
Their reponse then can have a positive effect through the whole team.
It's not directly measurable and may only be a minor influence on results....but it's there.
And yes...It's not something that's limited to Jack.
We have a few players like that, and it's usually the ones who show a 110% effort and attitude.