Carlton Supporters Club

Yes, that must be my big character flaw - looking at things too closely lol.

Leaving aside my reservations about the article, I put to you, my learned colleagues, some points for your consideration :

1. after the debacle of 2012, where it was decided that Malthouse could put the finishing touches on the work done by Ratten (touches that Ratten himself was supposedly unable to produce), that in fact the club is delusional and knows sh1t about what it takes to be a finals club, and has once again, just like 2012-15, overestimated either list or coach, or possibly both. And has taken fans along for the ride.

2. Too early to call, and after stumbling as we walk onto the stage, we then recompose ourselves and play finals this season.

3. the club is perfectly aware that it has tried to prematurely force the finals narrative to give hope and sell memberships, knowing full well that is was a long shot this season.

On a rather separate note, paulp you need to move on from 2012.  Whats done is done.  Ditto Bolton.  Whats done is done.

The club is not the same any more.  Yes the two incidents make you think nothing is changed, but the answer is that to truly move on we need to accept them for what they were.

Plausibly correct decisions at the time.  Carlton isn't the villain and the coaches the hero of the piece.

Think of both of them as relationships that went sour.  Why they did is irrelevant.  Sometimes people making the choice that something else is something better do so because they're unhappy with what they have.
Look past the decisions to move them on.  It happened for more than one reason we just don't know them all.

You gotta admit thought, history does have a strange or uncanny habit of repeating itself at our club (off field and on).

Hey PaulP you wouldn't be Pass2Carrots by any chance?
Just asking?

On a rather separate note, paulp you need to move on from 2012.  Whats done is done.  Ditto Bolton.  Whats done is done.

The club is not the same any more.  Yes the two incidents make you think nothing is changed, but the answer is that to truly move on we need to accept them for what they were.

Plausibly correct decisions at the time.  Carlton isn't the villain and the coaches the hero of the piece.

Think of both of them as relationships that went sour.  Why they did is irrelevant.  Sometimes people making the choice that something else is something better do so because they're unhappy with what they have.

Look past the decisions to move them on.  It happened for more than one reason we just don't know them all.

The only connection between me and Carrots is that we both hail from the Mediterranean, and as a consequence we're both very good at holding grudges lol.

That but also you are a gentlemen and a scholar.

Yes, the "Sell" puts Liddle in the used car or door to door salesmen regime, does he have a deal for you!

But should we expect anything less, I'm sure his remuneration primarily depends on membership growth, so why would we be surprised that takes priority both in implementation and reporting inventiveness!

Yes, the "Sell" puts Liddle in the used car or door to door salesmen regime, does he have a deal for you!

But should we expect anything less, I'm sure his remuneration primarily depends on membership growth, so why would we be surprised that takes priority both in implementation and reporting inventiveness!