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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #75 –
With Murphy its always about his pros vs his cons....yes he is experienced, can kick a handy goal or give another one off with a quick smart kick vs no pressure on his defender, one way running and IMO not providing the leadership we need from an older player. But this isnt a premiership year and he probably has about 10-12 games to round off his career so I would expect him to see out the year in the seniors.
IMHO he has gone on for a year too long and my preference would have been Josh Honey on the Half Forward flank as Fly suggested.
Murphy probably needed to do a Shaun Higgins and play out the last couple of years at a contender rather than a developing club.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #76 –
Quote from: flyboy77 on
The proof's in the pudding Paul.

I'll leave it at that.

Murphy has played nearly 300 games, into his 16th season, under 5 coaches (6 if you count Barker). He's never been dropped once. If the MC thought Honey or anyone else could do a better job, that fellow would be picked.
 

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #77 –
Quote from: PaulP on
Murphy has played nearly 300 games, into his 16th season, under 5 coaches (6 if you count Barker). He's never been dropped once. If the MC thought Honey or anyone else could do a better job, that fellow would be picked.
I think Murphy is using some of those credits he has banked as a near 300 game player and the club are showing him loyalty due to his status and want to send him off in a positive light rather than allowing him to fade to black quickly.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #78 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
I think Murphy is using some of those credits he has banked as a near 300 game player and the club are showing him loyalty due to his status and want to send him off in a positive light rather than allowing him to fade to black quickly.
If nothing else, he is like a coach out on the ground.
He'll know the setups.
He'll notice trends.
He'll see who is or isn't following instructions.

Ball in hand stuff is easy to measure.
The other stuff....not so much.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #79 –
Quote from: kruddler on
If nothing else, he is like a coach out on the ground.
He'll know the setups.
He'll notice trends.
He'll see who is or isn't following instructions.

Ball in hand stuff is easy to measure.
The other stuff....not so much.

worked a treat today.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #80 –
Quote from: capcom on
Yet people still want to pension off Betts.  NOT ONCE did he stop trying.   When someone else proves to be of better value, he remains on the list.

We are now certainly out of finals contention barring a miracle. 

Betts is seriously the least of our problems.
Finals, then 4 in a row!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #82 –
Lost to the undefeated top team. We simply weren't good enough to win that type of game. We have blokes out, are playing 3 blokes injured, Cripps, Williams and Casboult, lost Cunningham early and McKay's output was reduced with his shoulder. 26pts was probably a good result. Somehow we manage again to stay within some type of touch but we were never winning. Last week was our chance to get a big win and we choked it up. Lots to improve on with blokes returning, as well as the brittle mental aspects and losing culture.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #84 –
Quote from: laj on
Lost to the undefeated top team. We simply weren't good enough to win that type of game. We have blokes out, are playing 3 blokes injured, Cripps, Williams and Casboult, lost Cunningham early and McKay's output was reduced with his shoulder. 26pts was probably a good result. Somehow we manage again to stay within some type of touch but we were never winning. Last week was our chance to get a big win and we choked it up. Lots to improve on with blokes returning, as well as the brittle mental aspects and losing culture.
Interesting to hear BigH has been carrying that shoulder for a few weeks,

Teague made an interesting point post match about being hurt by players trying too hard and being sucked into the contest is a big part of the recent results. A few have made that observation here so we have some astute members.
The Force Awakens!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #85 –
Quote from: kruddler on
Sorry to string you along benny.  :-[

Maybe just skip over my positive posts from now on. You can probably read 99% of the other posts on here that will give you what you need, that negative, darkness that fosters your self pity.

Apologies.
 :-X


Well, there must be a reason if 99% of posts contain a negative darkness .

Perhaps people have become tired of false promises and rebuilds that have left us still entrenched in the lower half of the ladder.

I do appreciate your positive post regarding the hoped for early return of injured players.  But there has to be a wait and see period as questions remain over their fitness long term.

Kemp.  He may be good.  We simply don't know.
Charlie.  Will he be able to avoid further injury once his knee is put to the test in match play?  What will his mental state be after such a long layoff?
Williams.  Is he carrying an achilles tendon problem?
Cripps.  How will this mystery back injury affect his career long term?
TDK.  Is he injury prone or just having a run of bad luck?

I'm sure that if there are positive answers in the near future to my questions then that will be reflected in posts in the future.

   

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #86 –
we suck.......soo many soft efforts


Can anyone tell how many of SOSs 11/12 GWS retreads have got 100 games up?

I thought Marchbank was our best steal but missed almost 2 years with a bad back

Setters,Kennedy,Somers,Marchie,Plowman and all

Can anyone tell Harry M that if you want to shop yourself for 800k next year you have to go harder on May and not try and take a chest mark in a contested mark in a pack?

Teague must go midseason... Bolton mk2 nice guy dud clueless mid game......


"I still believe in this playing group" sure we don't when your guys keep serving up hot steaming turds of performance!

U have sucked as all again....we suck



Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #87 –
Quote from: Gags1960 on
we suck.......soo many soft efforts


Can anyone tell how many of SOSs 11/12 GWS retreads have got 100 games up?

I thought Marchbank was our best steal but missed almost 2 years with a bad back

Setters,Kennedy,Somers,Marchie,Plowman and all

Can anyone tell Harry M that if you want to shop yourself for 800k next year you have to go harder on May and not try and take a chest mark in a contested mark in a pack?

Teague must go midseason... Bolton mk2 nice guy dud clueless mid game......


"I still believe in this playing group" sure we don't when your guys keep serving up hot steaming turds of performance!

U have sucked as all again....we suck




Appreciate your frustration and agree on some points but sacking the coach mid year will just make us more unstable and unattractive to prospective coaches.
Agree on the GWS experiment, its hasnt produced what we thought or needed....bit tough On Harry who battled on well against a bloke who doesnt show much mercy. Blame the medical staff for sending him out there with a bung shoulder to start with.....see Cripps back...see Williams achillies....

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #88 –
It’s strange that Harry’s shoulder was very loosely strapped last week and Unstrapped this week.
Let’s go BIG !

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 9: Carlton vs Melbourne

Reply #89 –
Murphy has golden ticket to 300


Nice career but not worthy of current selection

Teague sucks...over his namby pamby pressers...beat us everywhere good coaching..must get better at the contest...so useless

our ball use was poor.....hello..we have sucked all year...no skills ..we must grow and learn...wtf u been doing for 16 months?

We are so over this crap poor coaching and nice guy approach....weak assist coaches like Barker useless 10 years ..get McClure involved and some hard nut Carlton 80/90s flag legends involved