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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #15
Is anyone worried about doch? I just am not seeing leadership from him at all. I know he’s had a tough time over it over the years but he doesn’t stand up when we need him to.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #16
Lapses, lapses lapses.

3 big ones today. Late in the 1st, late in the 2nd, start of the last. Do ok for the rest of it.

How many more could be win without them. We are "lapses" away from being a decent team. Why can't we fix them?

The thing is the women did the exact same thing in near every game too. What is pervading through the club?

Yep agrees 100% with this.

crap the bed again. Playing great football had them on the back foot and then go to sleep.

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Reply #17
We need a clean out on and off the field. We are so far from being a good side. So many players that promise so much but deliver so little. Our coaching lacks creativity and reeks or predictability. I am.so dis heartened, year after year I build up my belief in what we are doing and never learn. My son is now a teenager and never known a good Carlton side. A generation of supporters are just about done and the club has no one but themselves to blame.
Cheats have gone passed us giving us wind burn on the way.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #18
Lloyd or Teague? Someone has to pay for this failure.
Lloyd first IMO
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

 

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #19
Is anyone worried about doch? I just am not seeing leadership from him at all. I know he’s had a tough time over it over the years but he doesn’t stand up when we need him to.
Played ok last week, the Swans grind you down, its relentless contested ball and tackling and a lot of their small to mid sized player are also good in the air, he looked a bit tired and sore to me late in the game.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #20

 Williams  needs to be dropped  he was brought in for his hardness around  the ball he had exactly  0 tackles today, definetly not getting our money's worth.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #21
Cheats have gone passed us giving us wind burn on the way.
Mate, not only them. 5 years ago Essenscum were last on the ladder and Brisbane were second last!! 4 years ago the Lions won the spoon. Now they're in contention for a flag while we languish in the same bottom 6.

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Reply #22
I fail to see why we rushed Martin back for this game.  I'm getting tired waiting for this this bloke to actually deliver.  
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #23
Mate, not only them. 5 years ago Essenscum were last on the ladder and Brisbane were second last!! 4 years ago the Lions won the spoon. Now they're in contention for a flag while we languish in the same bottom 6.
Only upside for me to this season, would be happy for Robbo to get a premiership!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #24
Played ok last week, the Swans grind you down, its relentless contested ball and tackling and a lot of their small to mid sized player are also good in the air, he looked a bit tired and sore to me last in the game.
I think if you line them both up man on man, most of their blokes are better than most of our blokes.
Having said that, we have seen less talented teams fire up with grit and determination and beat much fancied opposition. Its rarely us though. Too many of our blokes dont do the little things or 1% anywhere near often enough. The main ones are:
- Find a man and not let them get into a position to mark or gather uncontested.
- Run hard to close in and apply pressure. I can recall one where a fwd took a mark and Levi made no effort to get across and spoil. There was a passage of play in the last where Murphy and SOS were contesting the ball, SOS busted a gut to give second and third efforts, Murph just sat off and didn't help. That mentality is killing us. In contrast, they hunted us in numbers, closed in at every opportunity to minimise our space. Result? 3-4 goal loss.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #25
If pre match we were told that Buddy would be held to 3 goals , we’d take it every day of the week. I thought Jones stuck to the task really well. That loss wasn’t his fault. A bit of scoreboard pressure from H would have been handy!!!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #26
Mate, not only them. 5 years ago Essenscum were last on the ladder and Brisbane were second last!! 4 years ago the Lions won the spoon. Now they're in contention for a flag while we languish in the same bottom 6.
Yep, reason I picked them is many on here rubbish them and reckon our list is better. Apart from a few obvious ones, our list is extremely ordinary.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #27
Yep, reason I picked them is many on here rubbish them and reckon our list is better. Apart from a few obvious ones, our list is extremely ordinary.

Tough to ground zero out and build a totally strong list. Too many positions need to be filled. Draft picks can be flukey so tough to be fully successful. Did terrific with the talls but some of the smaller ones have struggled. Usually the other way around.

Thing is we are only those bloody lapses away from being a decent team still.  None hammers us, we just beat ourselves often.

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Reply #28

Lloyd first IMO
Think it will be Teague, cant see Liddle knifing one of his inner crew like Lloyd...lose to West Coast and the wheels might start turning for a new coach. I wouldnt sack Teague and dont think its his fault we have struggled this season but we know the Carlton way is to axe the coach first and he is under real pressure to deliver a positive win ratio for the rest of the season.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #29
I’m now convinced the way we play makes us fans believe we are very close to being a finals team just need a few players here and there, maybe need to tweak the coaching group and we are ready to explore.
Well its time to accept we are delusional and have been sold a dud. We play free flowing footy that when the pressure is light on early in a game we can look good but when the opposition go up a gear we can’t go with them. That’s when the opposition usually pile on a run of goals that we can’t stop. We have bugger all depth and as a result the minute we get more then a few injuries we are forced to play way too many that a reserve grade footballers at best.
We are 6 years into a rebuild and imo it’s time to say the list build as a whole is a failure.
No depth in the ruck we have a reserve grade ruckman and a young promising kid as a back up. Nothing else after that. Stupid list development  again.
The midfield is 3 players at least away from competing with the best teams. Min 3 yet again in the off season we do nothing to rectify it.
The defence gets burnt every fking week from the same sort of smart quick forwards yet we trade in more running loose flankers which we are now over stocked in. Again just dumb.
The forwards line has Harry and maybe Charlie then either kids or seniors filling the voids.
And the safest part is apart from Cunningham, fisher and Charlie who are we missing that will really make a difference? Enough with the excuses. Sick of teams below us overtaking us year after year after year. Essendon have lost a ton of players and still get big scalps.
And I won’t even bother discussing the rabble of a coaching group. So many of the same old duds we have had for the last decade.
Been a member for a long time but i definitely won’t be extended the run.
Sorry if I sound negative but enough is enough with all the positive spin BS. Time to call it as it is