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Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #75 –
Quote from: WASurfer on
I had Setterfield pegged as a tall wingman type but he's shown nothing really IMO. I'd have Newnes in the team before him.
Setterfield is an inside mid, his best games have all been as a mid, until Ed retires we probably won't see much of that again.
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #76 –
Quote from: pew2 on
we are expected to win /expectations carry's a lot of weight and good side take that pressure and perform or rise to occasion . No excuses this week.
There will be excuses alright.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #77 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Matty Wright was a big voice for us on the field especially organizing the forwards as was Daisy, when you look at what Wright gave us and what we have got out of some of these mega recruits it makes me angry. Big dollars and draft picks but a delisted free agent like Wright gave us way more and most weeks was a decent contributor.
Exactly, hence my "lesser likes" comment earlier. Big dollars can sometimes buy you big problems.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #78 –
Quote from: LP on
Setterfield is an inside mid, his best games have all been as a mid, until Ed retires we probably won't see much of that again.

Lol
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #79 –
Looking at their side they are not overly tall either front or back. Can't see the point of playing Casboult. I would be choosing Setterfield, Fisher, Fogarty and Dow, with Murphy on the bench. Settrefield is interesting. I think that if they could get the mid-field balance right he would take a lot of pressure of Cripps. Cripps has certainly played better since Setterfield returned. Might only be a coincident. I didn't mind Casboult playing down back as I thought he could allow Jones in particular to peal off and become an intercept player. Unfortunately Casboult really didn't get in the game and I am not sure there is a spot for him We haven't really improved in the second half of a season for a long time. A win against the eagles would be good start of changing that. They have a pretty good midfield so if we can match them in there and slow their entries into the forward line then we have a good chance to win. I actually like our side this week. I would like to see Kennedy, SPS and O'Brien in there as well.

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Reply #80 –
I've never understood the hate for Setterfield to be honest.

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Reply #81 –
Quote from: PaulP on
I've never understood the hate for Setterfield to be honest.
Dont think its hate, more disappointment...was picked up to be the bigger mid support for Cripps but doesnt have the
appetite for the hard contest and has been guilty of removing himself from contact situations.
Thats ok if you are getting the ball 30 plus times a game and you kick like an arrow to your teammates but he doesnt get real big numbers and isnt an influential player who will win you games. Probably done his best work on a wing or tagging but thats not what we got him for and he sits in that group of players who are handy Indians but wont ever be a Chief.

Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #82 –
Quote from: PaulP on
I've never understood the hate for Setterfield to be honest.
As EB said, not hate, disappointment. I refer to that Mongrel Punt link posted the other day, the author stated we have too many players that either arent AFL standard or are just happy being AFL players. I reckon Setterfield sits in the latter category. No sense of urgency, doesnt over extend himself, just meanders along happy to be getting a game.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #83 –
A cheap penny bunger rather than a grenade.  Can't wait to see the back of him

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Reply #84 –
I was in favour of selecting Casboult last week to play back and essentially just clog up their forward line but it wasn't really their talls that did the damage in the end. It's a very small ground and out of the middle you usually just bypass CHF altogether. Darling will be their target this week and one of Jones or Weitering can pick him up. They might choose to play Williams forward AND Vardy as backup ruck. I think a better option is someone like Parks to go to Waterman who'll essentially be their third tall. Parks not in the greatest of form but without Plowman, strangely, it does limit our options a bit. Liam Ryan is the danger....he hasn't had a huge amount of impact in recent weeks but hard to see the perfect match up for him either.....maybe Stocker gets that job?

Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #85 –
Quote from: WASurfer on
I was in favour of selecting Casboult last week to play back and essentially just clog up their forward line but it wasn't really their talls that did the damage in the end. It's a very small ground and out of the middle you usually just bypass CHF altogether. Darling will be their target this week and one of Jones or Weitering can pick him up. They might choose to play Williams forward AND Vardy as backup ruck. I think a better option is someone like Parks to go to Waterman who'll essentially be their third tall. Parks not in the greatest of form but without Plowman, strangely, it does limit our options a bit. Liam Ryan is the danger....he hasn't had a huge amount of impact in recent weeks but hard to see the perfect match up for him either.....maybe Stocker gets that job?
I wouldnt play Parks, think he would be a liability given his previous form in the VFL, Stocker isnt that great overhead so I'm not sure I would want him on leaping Liam either.
I think you are right on Williams and Vardy, they will want to tie up Jones or Weitering having to play on a taller player and might also want the option of a tall down back clogging up Harry's space.
Weiterings intercept marking will come under notice and I can see them trying to drag him out of play and play a decoy tall type to do that.

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Reply #86 –
Official;

In: Dow, Fisher.

Our: Casboult (omitted), Gibbons (inj), Fogarty (managed).

Murphy is in just too after being 23rd man last week

Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast

Reply #87 –
Quote from: PaulP on
I've never understood the hate for Setterfield to be honest.
Quote from: PaulP on
I've never understood the hate for Setterfield to be honest.

Nor me, in fact, I thought he was ok last week.

Some players are a slow burn, and it's easy to forget he came to us having played only a handful of games (he hasn't hit 50 yet).  I'm still quietly confident he can turn into a really solid mid.

This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

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Reply #88 –
Looking through the WCE line up.......there are still some very handy, experienced players taking the park on Sunday!

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Reply #89 –
Quote from: townsendcalling on
Looking through the WCE line up.......there are still some very handy, experienced players taking the park on Sunday!

Definitely not a game to take lightly or get complacent - for fans, coaches and players.