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Reply #270 –
Quote from: Lods on
Teague to Clarkson would be Brittain to Pagan revisited.

Clarkson would have to pull off at least a finals in his first year.
Not even JC would see us play finals any time soon. Our list is a little overrated, need to clean out a few who dont compete.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #271 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Not even JC would see us play finals any time soon. Our list is a little overrated, need to clean out a few who dont compete.
Interesting that one. Given the very competitive nature, on the scoreboard at least, not player effort, only take the players to actually want to perform as they should, which ridiculously seems a big ask for our lot, to reverse a number of those losses and get into the 8. That's is what is most frustrating. Our midfield isn't deep though and making the 8 would be it. So, agree, we need to clean out those who don't compete as it is dragging us back big time.

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Reply #272 –
Our biggest problem has been our inability to recruit even a single midfielder of note - basically since Judd.

Williams was supposed to be it. But his body clearly isn't up to it.

We passed on numerous guys like Treloar, Jarrod Lyons and Brad Crouch. Missed the boat on guys like Lachie Neale, Rockliff, Tom Mitchell, Zac Jones, Shiel and numerous others.

And then we've missed bona fide mids in the draft - Oliver, Butters, Cerra, Tim Kelly, Perryman, Bolton, Parish, Hopper, Dunkley, etc.

And all the mids (apart from Walsh) have been busts so far.

I don't need a "Review" to tell me that.

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Reply #273 –
Sack as many people as you can out of the soft cap - and pump all of that money into recruitment to make sure we don't keep missing the boat.

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Reply #274 –
Quote from: jeza on
Our biggest problem has been our inability to recruit even a single midfielder of note - basically since Judd.

Williams was supposed to be it. But his body clearly isn't up to it.

We passed on numerous guys like Treloar, Jarrod Lyons and Brad Crouch. Missed the boat on guys like Lachie Neale, Rockliff, Tom Mitchell, Zac Jones, Shiel and numerous others.

And then we've missed bona fide mids in the draft - Oliver, Butters, Cerra, Tim Kelly, Perryman, Bolton, Parish, Hopper, Dunkley, etc.

And all the mids (apart from Walsh) have been busts so far.

I don't need a "Review" to tell me that.

Yeah, we haven’t snagged a midfielder that desperately need, but; crouch, Rockliff , Jones? If any of them were on our list, we would be screaming about recruiting list cloggers.  The others (maybe shiel and Mitchell aside, given the cost), wouldve been VERY handy.

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Reply #275 –
Point being - we've struggled to get even B grade mids.

Newnes the closest I guess.

That is not even B grade.

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Reply #276 –
Quote from: jeza on
Our biggest problem has been our inability to recruit even a single midfielder of note - basically since Judd.

Williams was supposed to be it. But his body clearly isn't up to it.

We passed on numerous guys like Treloar, Jarrod Lyons and Brad Crouch. Missed the boat on guys like Lachie Neale, Rockliff, Tom Mitchell, Zac Jones, Shiel and numerous others.

And then we've missed bona fide mids in the draft - Oliver, Butters, Cerra, Tim Kelly, Perryman, Bolton, Parish, Hopper, Dunkley, etc.

And all the mids (apart from Walsh) have been busts so far.

I don't need a "Review" to tell me that.

Couldn’t agree anymore. Spot on!!!

I was so critical on sos for this very fact. Horse seems to have bolted. With another bottom 4-6 finish coming doubt we will attract them now if we couldn’t previously.

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Reply #277 –
The drafting of kemp was another that I didn’t understand. Screaming for a ready mid by this stage of the rebuild and we use our first round pick on a bloke who just did an acl and now I hear he is more of a tall defender then a mid. And I can’t remember who it was but we passed on some kids who were still there when kemp was but were much more developed and ready to go yet still we decide to select a mid who wouldn’t be ready for 18 months.
Laughable.

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Reply #278 –
Agree with Jezza, midfield is where the game is controlled/won and we dont have the numbers or quality to compete.
Its also is putting a large workload on Cripps and Walsh and you have to wonder how long that can last.
You add a tight salary cap and it might be back to the draft for more kids if we cant offload some players and make some wriggle room to attract some quality readymade mids. Cerra and Merrett would interest me if we could afford them..

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Reply #279 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Agree with Jezza, midfield is where the game is controlled/won and we dont have the numbers or quality to compete.
In fairness to our MC and list management, the rule changes have moved the critical zone from the HBF to the Centre, our list was all setup for HBF based defence and turnover, and now we are left a little light in the midfield.

That Jets kid we just picked up in the MSD is part of the cure, he's more than capable of being the basis of a reshuffle.

Beyond form, I wonder if SPS in the 2s, and others, is a sign our club has realised the need for change. Under these rules we have too many of a type, that before were a sign of depth and now it's an excess.
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #280 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Agree with Jezza, midfield is where the game is controlled/won and we dont have the numbers or quality to compete.
Its also is putting a large workload on Cripps and Walsh and you have to wonder how long that can last.
You add a tight salary cap and it might be back to the draft for more kids if we cant offload some players and make some wriggle room to attract some quality readymade mids. Cerra and Merrett would interest me if we could afford them..

Cerra wont come cheap and is still learning so with our poor history with developing kids into decent midfielders, I don't trust the club with a player like Cerra.

Rather we throw as much as we possibly can to get 2 ready mids like Merrett and Mitchell who we know without wondering the instant improvement those recruits will make.

Cerra is better going to an organisation that can develop him into the potential he has. We are not the team for that and by now should know this and stop making the same mistakes.

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Reply #281 –
Quote from: shawny on
Cerra wont come cheap and is still learning so with our poor history with developing kids into decent midfielders, I don't trust the club with a player like Cerra.

Rather we throw as much as we possibly can to get 2 ready mids like Merrett and Mitchell who we know without wondering the instant improvement those recruits will make.

Cerra is better going to an organisation that can develop him into the potential he has. We are not the team for that and by now should know this and stop making the same mistakes.

Take your point Shawny on Cerra... Its a valid criticism and if the coaching setup doesn't change then maybe readymades are a better bet.

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Reply #282 –
btw., On mids, did anyone hear Darcy carry on about Connor Rozee last night, spent quite a bit of the commentary trying to create an assertion that Rozee was somehow a rare latent talent better than Walsh.

I suppose this goes back to Darcy's call when we took Walsh that we'd made a mistake overlooking Rozee.

Cerra would compliment on mids HFF nicely, but what do you do with Martin, Williams, Saad, etc., ect. if you take Cerra? So I tend to agree, the price is too high, we probably need more grunt as a priority over polish.

I concede we need some polish too, I'm just not giving up on the polish eventually coming from our current list of kids given some time.
The Force Awakens!

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Reply #283 –
Quote from: LP on
btw., On mids, did anyone hear Darcy carry on about Connor Rozee last night, spent quite a bit of the commentary trying to create an assertion that Rozee was somehow a rare latent talent better than Walsh.

I suppose this goes back to Darcy's call when we took Walsh that we'd made a mistake overlooking Rozee.
Worst football commentator on TV is D'Arcy..
 

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Reply #284 –
Sycophant
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?