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Re: Football Department Review

Reply #840
Conflicting reports, dated 13th August :

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/football-expertise-on-blues-board-queried-as-they-assess-review-20210813-p58ilj.html

Carlton great Chris Judd is set to officially step down from the board at the end of the season along with outgoing president Mark LoGiudice after making his intention to depart the club clear in May, a month before the independent review was called.

Judd did not attend Thursday night’s board meeting where the review was presented and has not been involved since the club commissioned respected football judges Geoff Walsh, Matthew Pavlich and Graham Lowe to conduct the review.


Doesn’t this raise another question??  Judd announced he intended to step down at the end of the season.  Yet he didn’t attend last week’s board meeting.   He hasn’t officially left yet, why is he not at board meetings?  Especially as the footy director, when a reasonably important footy matter is being discussed??

Something is a bit odd with his departure- was he pushed?  Did he not agree with undertaking the review? Does he not like sayers?

Re: Football Department Review

Reply #841
Doesn’t this raise another question??  Judd announced he intended to step down at the end of the season.  Yet he didn’t attend last week’s board meeting.   He hasn’t officially left yet, why is he not at board meetings?  Especially as the footy director, when a reasonably important footy matter is being discussed??

Something is a bit odd with his departure- was he pushed?  Did he not agree with undertaking the review? Does he not like sayers?

If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say he's either fed up of being ignored / overruled, or fed up with the club's flip flopping and embarrassing lack of professionalism.

Re: Football Department Review

Reply #842
Maybe, but I think Lyon is acting unethically, saying that he has "famous" Carlton people in his corner, and then talking about how Clarkson is the red hot favourite.  And the reason why the club hasn't backed Teague publicly is obvious. It's been a pretty grubby process, and all concerned should hang their heads in shame. There's no honour among thieves or senior coaches, it seems.
Pauly it was put to him by Caro and Ed that he had famous people in his corner (like Big Nic and his tough bastard comments) and he replied something like "yeah I saw that".  He wasnt the one putting foward he had influential backing. The difference between AFL360's approach with Clarkson and FC with Ross was polar opposite. Clarko made it clear to them questions about his future and Carlton where off limits. FC went balls and all and in hindsight, Ross should have said the same to FC, no questions about Carlton. If Im not mistaken, Matty Lloyd is normally on a Wed night but he was absent. I wonder why.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Football Department Review

Reply #843
Doesn’t this raise another question??  Judd announced he intended to step down at the end of the season.  Yet he didn’t attend last week’s board meeting.   He hasn’t officially left yet, why is he not at board meetings?  Especially as the footy director, when a reasonably important footy matter is being discussed??

Something is a bit odd with his departure- was he pushed?  Did he not agree with undertaking the review? Does he not like sayers?
Some are suggesting that Juddy not being at last weeks BM was incorrect and that he was there.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #844
Pauly it was put to him by Caro and Ed that he had famous people in his corner (like Big Nic and his tough bastard comments) and he replied something like "yeah I saw that".  He wasn't the one putting forward he had influential backing. The difference between AFL360's approach with Clarkson and FC with Ross was polar opposite. Clarko made it clear to them questions about his future and Carlton were off limits. FC went balls and all and in hindsight, Ross should have said the same to FC, no questions about Carlton.

That's it in a nutshell. Just grubby behaviour on his part.

Re: Football Department Review

Reply #845
That's it in a nutshell. Just grubby behaviour on his part.

Probably, he tried to handle it but it was always going to fail and come across poorly.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #846
Endless rigmorale and uncertainty.  At perhaps one of the lowest points in our history. 

Demoralising.

Re: Football Department Review

Reply #847
https://www.afl.com.au/news/666643/unless-ross-knows-something-then-i-plan-to-coach-next-year-teague

Well worth a read, but it's a little depressing tbh.



Grubby by Lyon, Grubby of the club to NOT support Teague until the review is handed in.
Bastards have white anted him from the get go.

I fully understand the non commentary bit, but they could have quite easily come out and hosed down some of the gossip... unless its true of course...
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #848
This entire saga has been a cluster####, from the board downwards. Too much meddling.   Too many factions.   Too many agendas and pathetic little games.    This club is a joke.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

 

Re: Football Department Review

Reply #849
Endless rigmorale and uncertainty.  At perhaps one of the lowest points in our history. 

Demoralising.
I'll respectfully disagree CC. In the past, we have been terrible in all aspects of the club. To me, today the status of the three main pillars of the club are:
Off field finances - Tick
List Management and Talent - Tick
Football Department - Jury is yet to deliver the verdict.
If we can line up all three above with ticks, we'll be off and running. IF!
Many will probably say the board is a pillar, I think the board builds the pillars and so to my way of thinking, they have seen 2 pillars built to a satisfactory level (always room for improve sure), the most important one for me is the one they are look at now.
I have been super critical of the board, I still am mainly due to the outside influencers. I do want to see what direction they take at this fork in the road. For Sayers, he'll either be a hero or it will be over before it began.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Football Department Review

Reply #850
Grubby by Lyon, Grubby of the club to NOT support Teague until the review is handed in.
Bastards have white anted him from the get go.

I fully understand the non commentary bit, but they could have quite easily come out and hosed down some of the gossip... unless its true of course...

Unfortunately, I think the answer is right there.

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Reply #851
I hope I live long enough to see this kind coach "skirt chasing" expunged from the club forever. There's always a better one around the corner...........

Re: Football Department Review

Reply #852
Unfortunately, I think the answer is right there.


So Mr Sayers, put your big girls blouse on and pull the trigger already, put the guy out of his misery.
But no, we dont want blood on our hands do we ?
Let’s go BIG !


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Reply #854
I'll respectfully disagree CC. In the past, we have been terrible in all aspects of the club. To me, today the status of the three main pillars of the club are:
Off field finances - Tick
List Management and Talent - Tick
Football Department - Jury is yet to deliver the verdict.
If we can line up all three above with ticks, we'll be off and running. IF!
Many will probably say the board is a pillar, I think the board builds the pillars and so to my way of thinking, they have seen 2 pillars built to a satisfactory level (always room for improve sure), the most important one for me is the one they are look at now.
I have been super critical of the board, I still am mainly due to the outside influencers. I do want to see what direction they take at this fork in the road. For Sayers, he'll either be a hero or it will be over before it began.
Think the jury is out on list management and talent...but agree on off field finances.
I think the recruiting area will come under heavy scrutiny via the review and I can see changes being made. I also think a coach like Lyon will want a few more of his type of player who have a bit more spice to their game.