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Reply #885
After all of the angst of the last few days if Teaguey is not kept on our club is imo a pack of pr1cks!  Just sayin’.
Reality always wins in the end.

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Reply #886
Pretty sure it was MLG who came out and said it wasnt a Teague review.
And (without engaging in commentary) anyone could have come out in the past weeks to back Teague in for this season at least ?
NO ONE has, and its damning of our club.

And Instead, the club has allowed blokes to publicly throw their hats into the ring, after the axe has swung, by all means lets invite expressions of interest for the job (and the execution in 40 odd games time...) But while the guy is still under contract for 2022 he should be getting something.

Its just a morbidly slow, painful public execution of a bloke who deserves better by people who should know better.
I dont want to back the bus over this but to my point, on Ch7 news, they just showed the footage of Liddle I recalled seeing. It was a presser in June at the front of PP at the time the review was announced and he was asked "Will David Teague be the coach in 2022" to which he replied "Yes". I knew it was Liddle not MLG
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #887
Here's a bizarre theory..... after their respective reviews, both Geelong and Richmond re-appointed coaches who looked for all the world like they were dead men walking.  What followed both of these decisions was the most successful era that these two clubs had seen in over 40 years.  Granted other changes were made, but perhaps it was that show of faith in the head man that was the genesis of the kind of team spirit and hunger that led to prolonged success - the kind we so desperately need.  

Maybe, just maybe, after all of this rubbish, the best thing to do would be to re-appoint Teague, give him the other changes that are needed like decent assistants and development teams, and back him in.  And put some serious acid on the players to deliver (I reckon this is what Choco has done at the Demons this year).  I don't think the player buy-in and performance has been given enough scrutiny - after all, they are the ones out there running, tackling and executing.  You can't keep blaming someone else for your own lack of hunger and motivation.

I suspect it is way past that possibility now. Too much water under the bridge and with The TT publicly criticising the club and review ,well... not a wise move if you're intending to stay.

Although hesitant to bring this up again, if we cast our minds back to the end of BBs tenure, there was plenty of conversation about the place re The TT sowing seeds of... mmm... let's just say, 'look at me, look at me... I know how to kick winning scores...' Perhaps what goes around, comes around? Then to have the remaining rounds of the season to prove yourself... and, taking the shackles off, change... good sugar hit which is good for a few wins. Then a haphazard due diligence re selection for new coach... and, voila. ;)
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #888
I dont want to back the bus over this but to my point, on Ch7 news, they just showed the footage of Liddle I recalled seeing. It was a presser in June at the front of PP at the time the review was announced and he was asked "Will David Teague be the coach in 2022" to which he replied "Yes". I knew it was Liddle not MLG

GTC, we all know, at least historically, these statements aren't worth much.

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Reply #889
I dont want to back the bus over this but to my point, on Ch7 news, they just showed the footage of Liddle I recalled seeing. It was a presser in June at the front of PP at the time the review was announced and he was asked "Will David Teague be the coach in 2022" to which he replied "Yes". I knew it was Liddle not MLG

Thats somewhat good news, and forgive me for doubting you (the bad news for me is that now I doubt myself...)

So why havent they been on the front foot shielding the coaching group/team and trying to preserve the season ?
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #890
I suspect it is way past that possibility now. Too much water under the bridge and with The TT publicly criticising the club and review ,well... not a wise move if you're intending to stay.

Although hesitant to bring this up again, if we cast our minds back to the end of BBs tenure, there was plenty of conversation about the place re The TT sowing seeds of... mmm... let's just say, 'look at me, look at me... I know how to kick winning scores...' Perhaps what goes around, comes around? Then to have the remaining rounds of the season to prove yourself... and, taking the shackles off, change... good sugar hit which is good for a few wins. Then a haphazard due diligence re selection for new coach... and, voila. ;)
Maybe its just me but I thought Teaguey's comments today were akin to MM's sack me I dare you comments.
However Teaguey is seen as a hero tonight, MM was seen as a grumpy old kent.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #891
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Although hesitant to bring this up again, if we cast our minds back to the end of BBs tenure, there was plenty of conversation about the place re The TT sowing seeds of... mmm... let's just say, 'look at me, look at me... I know how to kick winning scores...' Perhaps what goes around, comes around?.................................................

This has been in the back of my mind as well - I wonder how much support he really gave Bolts ?

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Reply #892
GTC, we all know, at least historically, these statements aren't worth much.
Say them, dont say them, which is it though?
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Football Department Review

Reply #893
I dont want to back the bus over this but to my point, on Ch7 news, they just showed the footage of Liddle I recalled seeing. It was a presser in June at the front of PP at the time the review was announced and he was asked "Will David Teague be the coach in 2022" to which he replied "Yes". I knew it was Liddle not MLG

Not much else he could say! Anything else would have caused a media storm... a little sooner than the current one!

I have a hunch that should Liddle stay his days of sticking his shnout into footy matters will be numbered. Nothing worse than a new CEO whose authority goes to his head and he starts making decisions in areas where his expertise is very limited. Stick with membership, sponsorship and other revenue streams knackers. Reckon he'd better stay in his lane for a while. Help appoint, if it happens, a new head of footy and senior coach, then let them structure up the footy department... and that includes recruitment!

The head of the footy dept should have a straight line to the Board in terms of direct reports... maybe a broken line to the CEO for some things.




Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17


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Reply #895
Thats somewhat good news, and forgive me for doubting you (the bad news for me is that now I doubt myself...)

So why havent they been on the front foot shielding the coaching group/team and trying to preserve the season ?

No mate, no need for forgiving anyone, all good. My points were:
1. The club backed Teague at the start
2. They said no running commentary on the review or individuals, this is the quote from Liddle “The whole football department is part of this review and we look forward to the process. However, we are not going to provide ongoing commentary around individuals." Liddle in The Australian on 26 June 2021
Thats why I found Teague's comments today odd, he seems to be the one thats gone off script. There have been no leaks, its all be a media generated frenzy and I reckon TT dropped the ball today.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

 

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Reply #896
I'm not sure I understand.
What I meant was the club makes comments, we say the comments are worthless. They dont make the comments, we say they should come out and comment. Damned if you do, Damned if you dont.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Football Department Review

Reply #897
Maybe its just me but I thought Teaguey's comments today were akin to MM's sack me I dare you comments.
However Teaguey is seen as a hero tonight, MM was seen as a grumpy old kent.

Bingo! I mentioned the same thing, GTC. Though I suggested that he'd perhaps been taking advise from MM! The TT plays the sympathy/woe is me card very well. Not a good tactic.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

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Reply #898
I suspect Teague would have been fine with no public comments if they had privately backed him in. According to him, there have been no public comments and he's received nothing in private either.

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Reply #899
What I meant was the club makes comments, we say the comments are worthless. They dont make the comments, we say they should come out and comment. Damned if you do, Damned if you dont.

Fair enough, but I think the "damned if you do" is justified, if you go back and see how many coaches we've backed in, only to be sacked moments later. There seems to be little reason why this statement should be treated any differently IMO. If the public is sceptical about such pronouncements, the Club only has itself to blame.