Carlton Supporters Club

I was sort of hoping for some more Pudding Face, I know I write that I'm sick of it but it also gives me a good laugh!

Schadenfreude!

but he had both of Kreuzers wrists/forearms pinned by his side, what was Kreuzer holding the ball with his teeth?

No. Here's what i find really interesting. We've now had several opposition players rubbed out by the mrp. Yet the umpire on the day fails to award a 50m penalty, or free kick. In fact, it somehow results in an opposition goal (occasionally). Go figure. I'll admit, I'm as bias as the next person, but seriously there's been more of these to be a fluke

I don't see why there is an obsession with bringing the ball carrier crashing to the ground. If they're completely wrapped up and standing, the ball won't be coming out regardless, and the tackle is equally effective. Unless there are ulterior motives to the said crashing to the ground.

This.

It's been an evolution linked to macho bullcrap from Sheedy and the 80's.

This.

It's been an evolution linked to macho bullcrap from Sheedy and the 80's.  Jezza was one of the best tacklers I have seen and when he wrapped a player up and pinned his arms he just set those big thighs like pylons which meant tackled player and ball was going nowhere.

Lots of commentators (esp. SEN) lamenting the fact that players have been taught to pin the arms while tackling - Robert Walls said it was a focus when they employed an ex-rugby tackling coach at the Brisbane Bears.  Well guess what, I have a 'How to Play Aussie Rules' manual from the  1950's which demonstrates the right way and wrong way (with photos) to execute the skills. Right way to tackle is to bear hug the opposition and pin his arms. Player can't handball or kick, end of story.

Nowadays it's all about psychological ascendance and intimidation - i.e. slinging, driving into the ground, giving them an extra shove when you've already won the free, humiliating a la Cale Hooker on Daniel Neilsen, etc., etc.

Sheedy is incredibly vindictive, he doesn't just want to defeat opponents, he wants to hurt them removing them from the game or even end their career.

One time Sheedy severely chastised David Hille after seeing Hille assist an opponent up off the ground.  Hille thought that the player was seriously hurt after a collision, but coming to his aid did not wash as an excuse with Sheedy. The inference Hille took was that if an opponent was dying on the ground then Sheedy thought the team should use the number advantage to score a goal first, then call for help second!

I recall Hille's father, a life long CheatsFC supporter, hint to me that he lost all respect for Sheedy after that day!

But that is the way Sheedy played as well, those of us old enough know about the ankle taps, king hits and corkies that Sheedy would hand out with monotonous regularity!

I think Sheedy was a typical player from his era in this respect. Balme, Nicholls, Rob Walls, plenty of them could dish out thuggish acts. Clearly anything to do with Essendon puts you into hyperbolic overdrive - my guess is that plenty of other coaches would have had issues with the David Hille incident - Leigh Matthews, the Kray twins, Clarko just off the top of my head.

Ratts certainly wanted to target a tall forward at the end of 2011 - whether Swann interfered with that, I know not.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-18/blues-gutted-by-finals-exit/2904886