Understanding our performances. Where we are at vs where should we be.

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Understanding our performances. Where we are at vs where should we be.

May 08, 2019, 11:34:22 am

Okay guys, Im doing this a bit retrospectively, but I think this will tell a story of itself.

Each week we face a new opponent, giving away a fair amount of experience, conditioning, proven AFL capability, and if some people are to be believed, coaching ability too.

In the face of that, I have decided to retrospectively, look at how many games we were giving away in terms of AFL experience, and seasoned ability at the level.

Carlton

B

Jarrod Garlett (29), Liam Jones (112), Lachie Plowman (73)

HB

Kade Simpson (307), Jacob Weitering (55), Dale Thomas (238)

C

Marc Murphy (249), Patrick Cripps (81), Zac Fisher (34)

HF

David Cuningham (16), Charlie Curnow (47), Sam Walsh (0)

F

Ed Curnow (143), Mitch McGovern (48), Alex Fasolo (103)

Fol

Andrew Phillips (36), Paddy Dow (20), Sam Petrevski-Seton (42)

I/C

Harry McKay (15), Nic Newman (31), Michael Gibbons (0), Will Setterfield (2)

Total: 1681 with an average of 76.4 games per player.

Richmond

B

Alex Rance (199), David Astbury (107), Dylan Grimes (127)

HB

Nick Vlastuin (116), Bachar Houli (185), Jayden Short (56)

C

Shane Edwards(231), Trent Cotchin (220), Kamdyn McIntosh (74)

HF

Daniel Rioli (55), Dan Butler (41), Jack Higgins (20)

F

Jack Riewoldt (249), Dustin Martin (201), Tom J. Lynch (131)

Fol

Toby Nankervis (59), Dion Prestia (130), Kane Lambert (74)

I/C

Maverick Weller (121), Jack Graham (23), Nathan Broad (30), Noah Balta (0)

Total: 2449 with an average of 111.3 games per player.

Interesting.

Re: Understanding our performances. Where we are at vs where should we be.

Reply #1 – May 08, 2019, 12:15:42 pm

Round 2

Port Adelaide vs Carlton

HB

Ryan Burton(48), Tom Jonas (125), Xavier Duursma (1)

C

Steven Motlop (154), Tom Rockliff (172), Justin Westhoff (249)

HF

Travis Boak (244), Jack Watts (172), Brad Ebert (235)

F

Robbie Gray (200), Todd Marshall (10), Zak Butters (1)

Fol

Scott Lycett (75), Karl Amon (42), Willem Drew (1)

I/C

Sam Powell-Pepper (46), Paddy Ryder (227), Connor Rozee (1), Darcy Byrne-Jones (66)

Total: 2194 with an average of 99.7 games per player.

Carlton

B

   Dale Thomas (239) , Liam Jones (116), Kade Simpson (308)

HB

Lachie Plowman (74), Jacob Weitering (56), Nic Newman (32)

C

Marc Murphy (250), Patrick Cripps (82), Zac Fisher (35)

HF

   Ed Curnow (144), Mitch McGovern (49), Sam Walsh (1)

F

   Charlie Curnow (48), Harry McKay (16), Michael Gibbons (1)

Fol

Andrew Phillips (37), Will Setterfield (3), Sam Petrevski-Seton (43)

I/C

   Paddy Dow (21) , Alex Fasolo (104), Cameron Polson (13),Jarrod Garlett (30)

Total: 1702 with an average of 77.3 games per player.

Dissapointing result particularly as it was winnable.

Re: Understanding our performances. Where we are at vs where should we be.

Reply #2 – May 08, 2019, 12:54:45 pm

Carlton

B

Lachie Plowman(75), Liam Jones (117), Kade Simpson (309)

HB

Caleb Marchbank(35), Jacob Weitering (57), Nic Newman (33)

C

Lochie O'Brien (18), Patrick Cripps (83), Sam Petrevski-Seton(44),

HF

Cameron Polson (14),Harry McKay (17) Sam Walsh (2)

F

Zac Fisher (36), Mitch McGovern (50), Levi Casboult(105)

Fol

Matthew Lobbe (99), Paddy Dow (22), Marc Murphy (251)

I/C

Ed Curnow (145), Dale Thomas (241), Michael Gibbons (2), Will Setterfield (4)

Total: 1760 with an average of 80 games per player.

Sydney Swans

B

Jake Lloyd (117), Dane Rampe (140), Callum Mills (53)

HB

Zak Jones (73), Aliir Aliir (30), Jarrad McVeigh (319)

C

Harry Cunningham (106), Isaac Heeney (82), Will Hayward(42)

HF

Tom Papley (62), Lance Franklin (290), Nick Blakey (2)

F

Tom McCartin (15), Sam Reid (123), Ben Ronke (18)

Fol

Callum Sinclair (89), Luke Parker (173), Josh P. Kennedy (229)

I/C

Jackson Thurlow (47), Oliver Florent (34), George Hewett (73), Jordan Dawson (5)

Total: 2122 with an average of 96.45 per player

We keep giving away a fair amount of experience each time we played, although with mcveigh in, the variance isnt as large, particularly because we played Lobbe with 100 games under his belt instead of Phillips.

Re: Understanding our performances. Where we are at vs where should we be.

Reply #3 – May 08, 2019, 01:50:09 pm

Round 4

Gold Coast Suns

B

Jarrod Harbrow (228), Sam Collins (18), Charlie Ballard (15)

HB

Jesse Joyce (50), Jack Hombsch (101), Pearce Hanley (148)

C

Ben Ainsworth (30), Jack Bowes (31), Wil Powell (9)

HF

Alex Sexton (100), Peter Wright (52), Nick Holman (33)

F

Darcy MacPherson (20), Chris Burgess (2), Jack Martin (85)

Fol

Jarrod Witts (83), Touk Miller (84), David Swallow (120)

I/C

Anthony Miles (72), Brayden Fiorini (29), Jordan Murdoch (111), Jack Lukosius (3)

Total: 1424 total with an average of 64.7 games per player

Carlton

B

Lachie Plowman(76), Liam Jones (118), Kade Simpson (310)

HB

Caleb Marchbank(35), Jacob Weitering (58), Dale Thomas (242)

C

Charlie Curnow (49), Patrick Cripps (84), Sam Petrevski-Seton(45),

HF

Marc Murphy (252),Harry McKay (18) Sam Walsh (3)

F

Zac Fisher (37), Levi Casboult(106), Ed Curnow (145)

Fol

Matthew Lobbe (100), Paddy Dow (23), Will Setterfield (5)

I/C

Lochie O'Brien (19) , Mitch McGovern (51) Michael Gibbons (3) , Nic Newman (34)

Total: 1813 with an average of 82.4 games per player.

We really should have won this game, and we led for most of it and is potentially the one that fills me with most of my concerns regarding getting wins.

Re: Understanding our performances. Where we are at vs where should we be.

Reply #4 – May 08, 2019, 02:07:51 pm

Round 5.

Western Bulldogs

B

Bailey Williams(32), Zaine Cordy (52), Hayden Crozier (90)

HB

Caleb Daniel (78), Easton Wood (141), Lachie Young (0)

C

Lachie Hunter (109), Tom Liberatore (121), Jason Johannisen (107)

HF

Will Hayes (0), Josh Dunkley (47), Sam Lloyd (61)

F

Toby McLean(64), Aaron Naughton (22), Tory Dickson (100)

Fol

Tim English (13), Marcus Bontempelli (108), Jack Macrae (122)

I/C

Mitch Wallis (127), Bailey Smith (4), Ed Richards (25), Billy Gowers (24)
Total: 1447 average of 65.8 games per player.

Carlton

B

Nic Newman (35), Liam Jones (119), Lachie Plowman (77)

HB

Kade Simpson (311), Jacob Weitering(59), Caleb Marchbank (36)

C

Jack Silvagni (43), Patrick Cripps (85), Sam Walsh (4)

HF

Michael Gibbons (4), Matthew Kreuzer (173), Ed Curnow (146)

F

Sam Petrevski-Seton (46), Mitch McGovern (52), Marc Murphy (253)

Fol

Harry McKay (19), Paddy Dow (24), Zac Fisher (38)

I/C

Dale Thomas (243) Lochie O'Brien (20),Levi Casboult(107), Cameron Polson (14)

Total: 1957 with an average of 88.95 games per player.

And we kick our highest score in years, to go with our first win for the year in a game where we clearly had a more experienced team on the park on average.

Re: Understanding our performances. Where we are at vs where should we be.

Reply #5 – May 08, 2019, 02:17:07 pm

Simply doesn't excuse the deplorable lack of effort last weekend....

Re: Understanding our performances. Where we are at vs where should we be.

Reply #6 – May 08, 2019, 02:30:28 pm

Hawthorn

B

Blake Hardwick (49), Kaiden Brand (39), Jarman Impey (104)

HB

Tom Scully(156), Ben Stratton (173), Jack Gunston (177)

C

Isaac Smith (186), Jaeger O'Meara (75), Daniel Howe (52)

HF

Paul Puopolo (173), Tim O'Brien (46), James Sicily (65)

F

Luke Breust (190), Chad Wingard (150), Jarryd Roughead (279)

Fol

Ben McEvoy (192), James Worpel (16), Ricky Henderson (135)

I/C

Mitchell Lewis (3), Liam Shiels (188), Jack Scrimshaw (

, James Cousins (12)

Total: 2468 average 112.18 games per player.

Carlton

B

Nic Newman (36), Liam Jones (120), Lachie Plowman (78)

HB

Kade Simpson (312), Jacob Weitering(60), Caleb Marchbank (37)

C

Jack Silvagni (44), Patrick Cripps (86), Sam Walsh (6)

HF

Michael Gibbons (6), Matthew Kreuzer (174), Ed Curnow (147)

F

Sam Petrevski-Seton (47), Mitch McGovern (53), Marc Murphy (254)

Fol

Harry McKay (20), Paddy Dow (25), Zac Fisher (39)

I/C

Dale Thomas (244) Lochie O'Brien (20),Levi Casboult(108), David Cuningham (18)

Total: 1982 with an average of 90.09 games per player.

Another one that got away. Its worth noting, that we lost this more because of the loss of cool calm experienced heads mid game.

Re: Understanding our performances. Where we are at vs where should we be.

Reply #7 – May 08, 2019, 02:32:29 pm

Interesting exercise. Total games experience.

Carlton

B

Tom Williamson (16), Liam Jones (119), Lachie Plowman (80)

HB

Marc Murphy (256), Jacob Weitering (63), Dale Thomas (245)

C

Zac Fisher (41), Patrick Cripps (88), Lochie O'Brien (23)

HF

Charlie Curnow (51), Jack Silvagni (46), Ed Curnow (150)

F

Sam Petrevski-Seton (49), Harry McKay (22), Michael Gibbons (7)

Fol

Andrew Phillips (39), Liam Stocker (1), David Cuningham (19)

I/C

Paddy Dow (27), Sam Walsh (7), Caleb Marchbank (40), Levi Casboult (109)

Total Games experience: 1498 with an average of 68 games per player.

North Melbourne

B

Jamie Macmillan (146), Robbie Tarrant (133), Jasper Pittard (133)

HB

Marley Williams (106), Scott D. Thompson (228), Shaun Atley (183)

C

Trent Dumont (67), Shaun Higgins (209), Jared Polec (113)

HF

Tarryn Thomas (5), Taylor Garner (35), Jack Ziebell (195)

F

Kayne Turner (65), Ben Brown (106), Nick Larkey (4)

Fol

Todd Goldstein (219), Ben Cunnington (194), Jed Anderson (50)

I/C

Jy Simpkin (41), Sam Wright (135), Mason Wood (44), Cameron Zurhaar (13)

Total Games Experience: 2424 games, average of 110 games per player.

What is remarkable is how experienced their defense and midfield were vs ours.

Re: Understanding our performances. Where we are at vs where should we be.

Reply #8 – May 08, 2019, 02:34:39 pm

Quote from: flyboy77 on May 08, 2019, 02:17:07 pm

Simply doesn't excuse the deplorable lack of effort last weekend....

No. It doesnt excuse lack of effort.

Looking at this as a trend, it paints a picture.

If you give away a thousand games experience, your chances of losing increase exponentially as does your ability to compete.